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  • Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger

    Either you guys are too high on Crowell or too low on Hyde. Crowell had a top notch burst, but that's it. Hyde is a guy that is going to grind it out and get those extra yards. He may not break away like Crowell could but this is a big improvement. Can Hyde stay healthy is the big question 

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @louisville-slugger said:

    Either you guys are too high on Crowell or too low on Hyde. Crowell had a top notch burst, but that's it. Hyde is a guy that is going to grind it out and get those extra yards. He may not break away like Crowell could but this is a big improvement. Can Hyde stay healthy is the big question 

    And...we will be getting an RB in the draft.  I am fairly convinced of that.

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      Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger wrote on last edited by
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      Alot of high level talent in the 2nd. If we don't come away with one of those I would be shocked. I've been pretty vocal that I think Penny is the best RB in this draft but Guice and Chubb are also very good options

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      • The GipperT The Gipper

        OK, so, lets play  Plus, Minus Absurdio here:

        QB  Taylor in.....Kizer out:   Net result?:

        RB:   Hyde in......Crowell out:  Net result?

        OT:  Joe Thomas out......OLs Chris Hubbard and Donald Stephenson in   Net result?:

        DBs:  Damarious Randall and Terrence Mitchell in......no one out...yet.    Net Result?

        DL:  Danny Shelton Out...   Chris Smith In....Net result?:

        WR:  Jarvis Landry In......no one out...yet  Net result?

        TE:  Darren Fells In...no one out...yet   Net Result?

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        jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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        @the-gipper said:

        OK, so, lets play  Plus, Minus Absurdio here:

        QB  Taylor in.....Kizer out:   Net result?: Improved but lets be honest, most QB's with two arms would be an improvement. Some possibly with one arm

        RB:   Hyde in......Crowell out:  Net result? This is a wash and disappointing and thats coming from a Buckeye homer. Keeps us from taking the best weapon we could have had. 

        OT:  Joe Thomas out......OLs Chris Hubbard and Donald Stephenson in   Net result?: as someone else said, Catastrophic loss 

        DBs:  Damarious Randall and Terrence Mitchell in......no one out...yet.    Net Result? The safety has the chance to be an improvement, the CB is JAG

        DL:  Danny Shelton Out...   Chris Smith In....Net result?: - I  am likely in the minority but this is a downgrade to me, luckily I believe this is depth behind someone else we sign or draft

        WR:  Jarvis Landry In......no one out...yet  Net result? HUGE addition 

        TE:  Darren Fells In...no one out...yet   Net Result? improvement for blocking

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          #Browns announced the four trades they made Friday.

          They disclosed the picks exchanged in the Damarious Randall trade. Cleveland gets Randall and 2018 4th (No. 114) and 5th (No. 150) round picks. Green Bay gets DeShone Kizer and 2018 4th (No. 101) and 5th (No. 138) round picks.

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            @the-gipper said:

            OK, so, lets play  Plus, Minus Absurdio here:

            QB  Taylor in.....Kizer out:   Net result?:  A guy with career 23-20 record over one with an 0-15 record?  Need I say more?

            RB:   Hyde in......Crowell out:  Net result?  A plus....even if it only via a better attitude.

            OT:  Joe Thomas out......OLs Chris Hubbard and Donald Stephenson in   Net result?:  Big negative, obviously

            DBs:  Damarious Randall and Terrence Mitchell in......no one out...yet.    Net Result?  Has to be a major plus since no one is out yet. So...who among current DBs gets aufed?

            DL:  Danny Shelton Out...   Chris Smith In....Net result?:  Hard to judge, different slots.   likely a wash so far...but I think Browns pick up a DT in FA...possibly Poe

            WR:  Jarvis Landry In......no one out...yet  Net result?  Big plus....even if they dump Higgins/Louis.  (do not expect Coleman to go...but you never know....never expected Kizer to go either)

            TE:  Darren Fells In...no one out...yet   Net Result?  A backup....will trust Dorsey that this guy can play....a plus.

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            dawg2fanD dawg2fan wrote on last edited by
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            @the-gipper said:

            QB  Taylor in.....Kizer out:   Net result?:  A guy with career 23-20 record over one with an 0-15 record?  Need I say more?

            Well if you compare a 20 year old rookie QB to a Veteran especially with the additions we made to this team, of course Taylor is better.  I can promise when the Packers are ready to start Kizer, he will be much better than Tyrod.  

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              @the-gipper said:

              QB  Taylor in.....Kizer out:   Net result?:  A guy with career 23-20 record over one with an 0-15 record?  Need I say more?

              Well if you compare a 20 year old rookie QB to a Veteran especially with the additions we made to this team, of course Taylor is better.  I can promise when the Packers are ready to start Kizer, he will be much better than Tyrod.  

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              jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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              @dawg2fan said:

              Well if you compare a 20 year old rookie QB to a Veteran especially with the additions we made to this team, of course Taylor is better.  I can promise when the Packers are ready to start Kizer, he will be much better than Tyrod.  

              you mean to say IF the Packers are every EVER READY to start him. 

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              • Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger

                Alot of high level talent in the 2nd. If we don't come away with one of those I would be shocked. I've been pretty vocal that I think Penny is the best RB in this draft but Guice and Chubb are also very good options

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                @louisville-slugger said:

                Alot of high level talent in the 2nd. If we don't come away with one of those I would be shocked. I've been pretty vocal that I think Penny is the best RB in this draft but Guice and Chubb are also very good options

                I've been completely on the Penny bandwagon since I saw the Stanford and ASU games.  

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                  mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                  OK, so, lets play  Plus, Minus Absurdio here:

                  QB  Taylor in.....Kizer out:   Net result?:.......filled a need, lost a backup......but not done yet?

                  RB:   Hyde in......Crowell out:  Net result??.........the Crow flew East......not bad

                  OT:  Joe Thomas out......OLs Chris Hubbard and Donald Stephenson in   Net result?:.......count to 5, see you in Canton!  Tough loss.

                  DBs:  Damarious Randall and Terrence Mitchell in......no one out...yet.    Net Result?......filled some need spots, not done yet?

                  DL:  Danny Shelton Out...   Chris Smith In....Net result?:..... eh, wait, should be ok

                  WR:  Jarvis Landry In......no one out...yet  Net result?........has to help, maybe big!

                  TE:  Darren Fells In...no one out...yet   Net Result?......again wait but should be OK

                  ??: 10 more picks? Woo-hoo!

                  GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                    Updated:

                    Here is a recap on the Browns moves so far:

                    OUT:

                    Joe Thomas retires

                    Danny Shelton traded

                    DeShone Kizer traded

                    Isaiah Crow leaves via FA

                    IN:

                    QB Tyrod Taylor in via trade

                    WR Jarvis Landry in via trade

                    DB Damarious Randall in via trade

                    CB Terrence Mitchell signed as FA

                    OT Donald Stephenson signed as FA

                    DE Chris Smith signed as FA

                    RB Carlos Hyde signed via FA

                    OT Chris Hubbard signed as FA

                    TE Darren Fells signed as FA

                    CB TJ Carrie  as FA

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      Updated:

                      OK, so, lets play  Plus, Minus Absurdio here:

                      QB  Taylor in.....Kizer out:   Net result?:

                      RB:   Hyde in......Crowell out:  Net result?

                      OT:  Joe Thomas out......OLs Chris Hubbard and Donald Stephenson in   Net result?:

                      DBs:  Damarious Randall, TJ Carrie and Terrence Mitchell in......no one out...yet.    Net Result?

                      DL:  Danny Shelton Out...   Chris Smith In....Net result?:

                      WR:  Jarvis Landry In......no one out...yet  Net result?

                      TE:  Darren Fells In...no one out...yet   Net Result?

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                        Updated:

                        OK, so, lets play  Plus, Minus Absurdio here:

                        QB  Taylor in.....Kizer out:   Net result?:

                        RB:   Hyde in......Crowell out:  Net result?

                        OT:  Joe Thomas out......OLs Chris Hubbard and Donald Stephenson in   Net result?:

                        DBs:  Damarious Randall, TJ Carrie and Terrence Mitchell in......no one out...yet.    Net Result?

                        DL:  Danny Shelton Out...   Chris Smith In....Net result?:

                        WR:  Jarvis Landry In......no one out...yet  Net result?

                        TE:  Darren Fells In...no one out...yet   Net Result?

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                        Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger wrote on last edited by
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                        @the-gipper said:

                        Updated:

                        OK, so, lets play  Plus, Minus Absurdio here:

                        QB  Taylor in.....Kizer out:   Net result?: huge upgrade. 

                        RB:   Hyde in......Crowell out:  Net result? Under-rated move. 

                        OT:  Joe Thomas out......OLs Chris Hubbard and Donald Stephenson in   Net result?: not as bad as it looks. I've got a feeling were going focus on the running game.

                        DBs:  Damarious Randall, TJ Carrie and Terrence Mitchell in......no one out...yet.    Net Result? Carrie I like as the #2. Randall hasn't played FS since college and I don't know anything about mitchell.

                        DL:  Danny Shelton Out...   Chris Smith In....Net result?: I've got a feeling were going to get one of the big name DTs but right now this is bad

                        WR:  Jarvis Landry In......no one out...yet  Net result? Huge. We finally focus on bringing in playmakers

                        TE:  Darren Fells In...no one out...yet   Net Result? Again I think we focus on the running game so this is a underrated signing. If Fells is as good as a blocker as I've been hearing then this will really help

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                        • The GipperT The Gipper

                          Updated:

                          Here is a recap on the Browns moves so far:

                          OUT:

                          Joe Thomas retires

                          Danny Shelton traded

                          DeShone Kizer traded

                          Isaiah Crow leaves via FA

                          IN:

                          QB Tyrod Taylor in via trade

                          WR Jarvis Landry in via trade

                          DB Damarious Randall in via trade

                          CB Terrence Mitchell signed as FA

                          OT Donald Stephenson signed as FA

                          DE Chris Smith signed as FA

                          RB Carlos Hyde signed via FA

                          OT Chris Hubbard signed as FA

                          TE Darren Fells signed as FA

                          CB TJ Carrie  as FA

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                          @the-gipper said:

                          Updated:

                          Here is a recap on the Browns moves so far:

                          OUT:

                          Joe Thomas retires

                          Danny Shelton traded

                          DeShone Kizer traded

                          Isaiah Crow leaves via FA

                          IN:

                          QB Tyrod Taylor in via trade

                          WR Jarvis Landry in via trade

                          DB Damarious Randall in via trade

                          CB Terrence Mitchell signed as FA

                          OT Donald Stephenson signed as FA

                          DE Chris Smith signed as FA

                          RB Carlos Hyde signed via FA

                          OT Chris Hubbard signed as FA

                          TE Darren Fells signed as FA

                          CB TJ Carrie  as FA

                          Further updates:  All these guys OUT:

                          Terminated contract (2):

                          DB Jason McCourtyicon-article-link.gif

                          DB B.W. Webbicon-article-link.gif

                          Waived (8):

                          DL Ricky Ali'ifuaicon-article-link.gif

                          OL Zach Bannericon-article-link.gif

                          DL Collin Bevinsicon-article-link.gif

                          LB Jeremy Cashicon-article-link.gif

                          OL Joseph Cheekicon-article-link.gif

                          WR Sammie Coatesicon-article-link.gif

                          DB Trevon Hartfieldicon-article-link.gif

                          Jason Rounds

                          Besides McCourty.....and Coates.....we hardly knew that any of these guys were on the Browns roster. Or, if you knew....you hardly gave them a thought.

                          Have I missed anyone else who is either in or out?

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