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  • They didn't. It was a 3rd rounder.

  • The reality is that with the offensive weapons we have ALREADY amassed (not including potentially Barkley) Tyrod Taylor could possibly play MUCH better than he did in Buffalo.  I don't know all what went down in Buffalo but it  seemed like an extremely toxic situation for Taylor to have to deal with (organization-wise to say nothing of talent-wise).  He may well be a much better QB in Cleveland, all things considered.  There is the possibility he can be more than just a bridge here.  Not saying don't take our QB @ #1, just that Taylor could potentially be the best QB moving forward the next several years.  It's one possibility.

  • QB @ #1 & we're good at 4. That being said, IF the Bills call us after #3 is taken, then that means the guy they want at 4 is still there. THAT'S when the price goes through the roof for #4. For me to even consider it (not saying I would), the price would be AT LEAST 12, 22, and (2) 2nd rounders this year.

    If you're hungry enough, you'll eat damn near anything. 🙄

    Mike

  • Dorsey may be getting a call from the Bills and have them by the short and curlies if he chooses to hear them out.

    Hanging out and getting one of Chubb, Fitzpatrick, or Ward doesn’t hurt my feelings at all.

  • I figured some team would trade up to go for a QB.

    All the more reason for the Browns to get it right at #1.... and It does look more likely we'll be able to get Chubb at #4. Him with Garrett and Ogunjobi would be awesome 

    @sd_tom said:

    I figured some team would trade up to go for a QB.

    All the more reason for the Browns to get it right at #1.... and It does look more likely we'll be able to get Chubb at #4. Him with Garrett and Ogunjobi would be awesome 

    Does anyone have a clue as to who is being targeted by the Jets?    Why do I think it is likely Rosen.  Or, are they enamored with Baker Mayfield.  Or, are they just willing to take any of 3 guys.

    OR....do they have a hard on for Barkley????   No?  Its a thought.  

  • @sd_tom said:

    I figured some team would trade up to go for a QB.

    All the more reason for the Browns to get it right at #1.... and It does look more likely we'll be able to get Chubb at #4. Him with Garrett and Ogunjobi would be awesome 

    Does anyone have a clue as to who is being targeted by the Jets?    Why do I think it is likely Rosen.  Or, are they enamored with Baker Mayfield.  Or, are they just willing to take any of 3 guys.

    OR....do they have a hard on for Barkley????   No?  Its a thought.  

    @the-gipper said:

    Does anyone have a clue as to who is being targeted by the Jets?    Why do I think it is likely Rosen.  Or, are they enamored with Baker Mayfield.  Or, are they just willing to take any of 3 guys.

    OR....do they have a hard on for Barkley????   No?  Its a thought.  

    Everyone in Jets land believes its a QB and not Barkley. Rosen or Mayfield seem likely to me, but I suppose Allen could be target as well.

  • Winners - those getting more picks and the best available talent 

    Losers - those overreaching for the quarterbacks in this draft

    The BROWNS might not be done trading, we'll see on that, it will be a memorable draft this year. They should do very well.

  • Bills will trade to #2 or try to get our #1. Likely the Jets want Rosen, I think. Giants could easily trade to #3 from #2 if they had to. We probably have to stand pat and take a QB at #1, or end up with the last one of Rosen, Allen, Mayfield, and D'Arnold most likely.

  • The Browns are in an interesting spot, no doubt. IMOP, They have to take a qb at #1 now. No excuses. Dorsey is a dice roller and is not afraid to take chances on upside. I would love to see his qb board. As much as I get excited about each qb, they all scare me. Darnold has the least amount of fear factor, so I'm definitely leaning that way. Not to mention, he is the youngest of the bunch at 20 years old.

    But where it gets interesting is in the scenarios: 

    1) Three qb's go in the top 3 picks. Giants, Bills, Dolphins or Miami make the pick at #2. It doesn't matter. That leaves chubb, barkley, nelson, and fitzpatrick on the board at #4. If they choose a player, in this scenario if they want to take a player and not trade back, I think it's chubb. They have two dominant DE's whom are young for the next 4 years. Fans will scream for Barkley but there is enough depth in the class and Dorsey has NEVER taken a first round RB

    2.) Same scenario as above, only Buffalo calls because the Giants make a pick at #2. If I'm Cleveland I ask for this: #12, 22, 53, 56 and Tre'davious White. If they are willing to make this deal, I take it. I then turn around and call denver and offer them 2 of the 5 second round picks that I have plus #12, to move up to #5. I still take Chubb at #5, but now you have not only bolstered the secondary with White, but you also added the best defender in the draft and still have 3 second round picks.

    3.) Surprise everyone...Take Chubb at #1 and draft your qb at #4

    4.) Draft Barkley at #1 and take your qb at #4 not caring whom falls to you

    5.) Shock the World..Take Barkley at #1 and Chubb at #4 then trade up to grab whichever qb falls. I think the floor is Miami for the top 4 at #11. This would take a ton of balls, use up lots of draft capital, and have a lot of faith.

    6.) Out think themselves, and not take a qb until one of their late 2nd round picks and believe TT is going to lead them for the next 5 yrs

  • Jets and Giants seem to have Rosen high on their list 

  • The Browns are in an interesting spot, no doubt. IMOP, They have to take a qb at #1 now. No excuses. Dorsey is a dice roller and is not afraid to take chances on upside. I would love to see his qb board. As much as I get excited about each qb, they all scare me. Darnold has the least amount of fear factor, so I'm definitely leaning that way. Not to mention, he is the youngest of the bunch at 20 years old.

    But where it gets interesting is in the scenarios: 

    1) Three qb's go in the top 3 picks. Giants, Bills, Dolphins or Miami make the pick at #2. It doesn't matter. That leaves chubb, barkley, nelson, and fitzpatrick on the board at #4. If they choose a player, in this scenario if they want to take a player and not trade back, I think it's chubb. They have two dominant DE's whom are young for the next 4 years. Fans will scream for Barkley but there is enough depth in the class and Dorsey has NEVER taken a first round RB

    2.) Same scenario as above, only Buffalo calls because the Giants make a pick at #2. If I'm Cleveland I ask for this: #12, 22, 53, 56 and Tre'davious White. If they are willing to make this deal, I take it. I then turn around and call denver and offer them 2 of the 5 second round picks that I have plus #12, to move up to #5. I still take Chubb at #5, but now you have not only bolstered the secondary with White, but you also added the best defender in the draft and still have 3 second round picks.

    3.) Surprise everyone...Take Chubb at #1 and draft your qb at #4

    4.) Draft Barkley at #1 and take your qb at #4 not caring whom falls to you

    5.) Shock the World..Take Barkley at #1 and Chubb at #4 then trade up to grab whichever qb falls. I think the floor is Miami for the top 4 at #11. This would take a ton of balls, use up lots of draft capital, and have a lot of faith.

    6.) Out think themselves, and not take a qb until one of their late 2nd round picks and believe TT is going to lead them for the next 5 yrs

    @bigalow80 said:

    The Browns are in an interesting spot, no doubt. IMOP, They have to take a qb at #1 now. No excuses. Dorsey is a dice roller and is not afraid to take chances on upside. I would love to see his qb board. As much as I get excited about each qb, they all scare me. Darnold has the least amount of fear factor, so I'm definitely leaning that way. Not to mention, he is the youngest of the bunch at 20 years old.

    But where it gets interesting is in the scenarios: 

    1) Three qb's go in the top 3 picks. Giants, Bills, Dolphins or Miami make the pick at #2. It doesn't matter. That leaves chubb, barkley, nelson, and fitzpatrick on the board at #4. If they choose a player, in this scenario if they want to take a player and not trade back, I think it's chubb. They have two dominant DE's whom are young for the next 4 years. Fans will scream for Barkley but there is enough depth in the class and Dorsey has NEVER taken a first round RB

    2.) Same scenario as above, only Buffalo calls because the Giants make a pick at #2. If I'm Cleveland I ask for this: #12, 22, 53, 56 and Tre'davious White. If they are willing to make this deal, I take it. I then turn around and call denver and offer them 2 of the 5 second round picks that I have plus #12, to move up to #5. I still take Chubb at #5, but now you have not only bolstered the secondary with White, but you also added the best defender in the draft and still have 3 second round picks.

    3.) Surprise everyone...Take Chubb at #1 and draft your qb at #4

    4.) Draft Barkley at #1 and take your qb at #4 not caring whom falls to you

    5.) Shock the World..Take Barkley at #1 and Chubb at #4 then trade up to grab whichever qb falls. I think the floor is Miami for the top 4 at #11. This would take a ton of balls, use up lots of draft capital, and have a lot of faith.

    6.) Out think themselves, and not take a qb until one of their late 2nd round picks and believe TT is going to lead them for the next 5 yrs

     Good post. I also wonder if number 5 scenario is what we might really see. If he really likes  a sleeper QB like Jackson or White i think it is what we will see. I also will say I often see it posted hes never taken a RB  in round 1 but how often has he had a chance to get one like Barkley in round 1?

  • @bigalow80 said:

    The Browns are in an interesting spot, no doubt. IMOP, They have to take a qb at #1 now. No excuses. Dorsey is a dice roller and is not afraid to take chances on upside. I would love to see his qb board. As much as I get excited about each qb, they all scare me. Darnold has the least amount of fear factor, so I'm definitely leaning that way. Not to mention, he is the youngest of the bunch at 20 years old.

    But where it gets interesting is in the scenarios: 

    1) Three qb's go in the top 3 picks. Giants, Bills, Dolphins or Miami make the pick at #2. It doesn't matter. That leaves chubb, barkley, nelson, and fitzpatrick on the board at #4. If they choose a player, in this scenario if they want to take a player and not trade back, I think it's chubb. They have two dominant DE's whom are young for the next 4 years. Fans will scream for Barkley but there is enough depth in the class and Dorsey has NEVER taken a first round RB

    2.) Same scenario as above, only Buffalo calls because the Giants make a pick at #2. If I'm Cleveland I ask for this: #12, 22, 53, 56 and Tre'davious White. If they are willing to make this deal, I take it. I then turn around and call denver and offer them 2 of the 5 second round picks that I have plus #12, to move up to #5. I still take Chubb at #5, but now you have not only bolstered the secondary with White, but you also added the best defender in the draft and still have 3 second round picks.

    3.) Surprise everyone...Take Chubb at #1 and draft your qb at #4

    4.) Draft Barkley at #1 and take your qb at #4 not caring whom falls to you

    5.) Shock the World..Take Barkley at #1 and Chubb at #4 then trade up to grab whichever qb falls. I think the floor is Miami for the top 4 at #11. This would take a ton of balls, use up lots of draft capital, and have a lot of faith.

    6.) Out think themselves, and not take a qb until one of their late 2nd round picks and believe TT is going to lead them for the next 5 yrs

     Good post. I also wonder if number 5 scenario is what we might really see. If he really likes  a sleeper QB like Jackson or White i think it is what we will see. I also will say I often see it posted hes never taken a RB  in round 1 but how often has he had a chance to get one like Barkley in round 1?

    He took a Q

    @jcam222 said:

     Good post. I also wonder if number 5 scenario is what we might really see. If he really likes  a sleeper QB like Jackson or White i think it is what we will see. I also will say I often see it posted hes never taken a QB  in round 1 but how often has he had a chance to get one like Barkley in round 1?

    He took a QB in first round last year, Pat Mahomes.

  • @bigalow80 said:

    The Browns are in an interesting spot, no doubt. IMOP, They have to take a qb at #1 now. No excuses. Dorsey is a dice roller and is not afraid to take chances on upside. I would love to see his qb board. As much as I get excited about each qb, they all scare me. Darnold has the least amount of fear factor, so I'm definitely leaning that way. Not to mention, he is the youngest of the bunch at 20 years old.

    But where it gets interesting is in the scenarios: 

    1) Three qb's go in the top 3 picks. Giants, Bills, Dolphins or Miami make the pick at #2. It doesn't matter. That leaves chubb, barkley, nelson, and fitzpatrick on the board at #4. If they choose a player, in this scenario if they want to take a player and not trade back, I think it's chubb. They have two dominant DE's whom are young for the next 4 years. Fans will scream for Barkley but there is enough depth in the class and Dorsey has NEVER taken a first round RB

    2.) Same scenario as above, only Buffalo calls because the Giants make a pick at #2. If I'm Cleveland I ask for this: #12, 22, 53, 56 and Tre'davious White. If they are willing to make this deal, I take it. I then turn around and call denver and offer them 2 of the 5 second round picks that I have plus #12, to move up to #5. I still take Chubb at #5, but now you have not only bolstered the secondary with White, but you also added the best defender in the draft and still have 3 second round picks.

    3.) Surprise everyone...Take Chubb at #1 and draft your qb at #4

    4.) Draft Barkley at #1 and take your qb at #4 not caring whom falls to you

    5.) Shock the World..Take Barkley at #1 and Chubb at #4 then trade up to grab whichever qb falls. I think the floor is Miami for the top 4 at #11. This would take a ton of balls, use up lots of draft capital, and have a lot of faith.

    6.) Out think themselves, and not take a qb until one of their late 2nd round picks and believe TT is going to lead them for the next 5 yrs

     Good post. I also wonder if number 5 scenario is what we might really see. If he really likes  a sleeper QB like Jackson or White i think it is what we will see. I also will say I often see it posted hes never taken a RB  in round 1 but how often has he had a chance to get one like Barkley in round 1?

    @jcam222 said:

     Good post. I also wonder if number 5 scenario is what we might really see. If he really likes  a sleeper QB like Jackson or White i think it is what we will see. I also will say I often see it posted hes never taken a QB  in round 1 but how often has he had a chance to get one like Barkley in round 1?

    I think you mean RB

  • He took a Q

    @jcam222 said:

     Good post. I also wonder if number 5 scenario is what we might really see. If he really likes  a sleeper QB like Jackson or White i think it is what we will see. I also will say I often see it posted hes never taken a QB  in round 1 but how often has he had a chance to get one like Barkley in round 1?

    He took a QB in first round last year, Pat Mahomes.

    @runyon27 said:

    He took a Q

    He took a QB in first round last year, Pat Mahomes.

    @bigalow80 said:

    I think you mean RB

    Yep , meant RB 

  • The Jets are targeting Barkley. They'll take him at three before we get our second chance at him #4... damn. We without a doubt have to take Saquon #1 now.

  • The Jets are targeting Barkley. They'll take him at three before we get our second chance at him #4... damn. We without a doubt have to take Saquon #1 now.

    @poeticg said:

    The Jets are targeting Barkley. They'll take him at three before we get our second chance at him #4... damn. We without a doubt have to take Saquon #1 now.

    Wow

  • The Jets are targeting Barkley. They'll take him at three before we get our second chance at him #4... damn. We without a doubt have to take Saquon #1 now.

    @poeticg said:

    The Jets are targeting Barkley. They'll take him at three before we get our second chance at him #4... damn. We without a doubt have to take Saquon #1 now.

    Po you are so damn dumb. They don't trade up a month before the draft targeting one specific player to number 3. Either of the two picks ahead could take that player then you're left holding your winky ave giving away a ton of draft capital to do so. You have to move all the way to target 1 specific player moron. They are targeting a position group and that's qb. No matter what the first two teams do they are still getting a qb.

  • The Jets are targeting Barkley. They'll take him at three before we get our second chance at him #4... damn. We without a doubt have to take Saquon #1 now.

    @poeticg said:

    The Jets are targeting Barkley. They'll take him at three before we get our second chance at him #4... damn. We without a doubt have to take Saquon #1 now.

    I think not. It's a draft deep in terrific rb's. They desperately need a qb after losing out in fa on a qb. They signed Teddy Bildgewater, that's a poor choice.....and Crowell.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/4-biggest-jets-address-qb-article-1.3879203

    The Jets NEED a qb. AND:

    an OLB/Edge rusher

    TE

    Wide Receiver

    Kick Returner

  • It's obvious why they moved into #3. They are counting on the Giants NOT to take a QB and for the Browns to typically take the wrong f'n QB as usual. Easy Peasy.😛

  • The Browns are in an interesting spot, no doubt. IMOP, They have to take a qb at #1 now. No excuses. Dorsey is a dice roller and is not afraid to take chances on upside. I would love to see his qb board. As much as I get excited about each qb, they all scare me. Darnold has the least amount of fear factor, so I'm definitely leaning that way. Not to mention, he is the youngest of the bunch at 20 years old.

    But where it gets interesting is in the scenarios: 

    1) Three qb's go in the top 3 picks. Giants, Bills, Dolphins or Miami make the pick at #2. It doesn't matter. That leaves chubb, barkley, nelson, and fitzpatrick on the board at #4. If they choose a player, in this scenario if they want to take a player and not trade back, I think it's chubb. They have two dominant DE's whom are young for the next 4 years. Fans will scream for Barkley but there is enough depth in the class and Dorsey has NEVER taken a first round RB

    2.) Same scenario as above, only Buffalo calls because the Giants make a pick at #2. If I'm Cleveland I ask for this: #12, 22, 53, 56 and Tre'davious White. If they are willing to make this deal, I take it. I then turn around and call denver and offer them 2 of the 5 second round picks that I have plus #12, to move up to #5. I still take Chubb at #5, but now you have not only bolstered the secondary with White, but you also added the best defender in the draft and still have 3 second round picks.

    3.) Surprise everyone...Take Chubb at #1 and draft your qb at #4

    4.) Draft Barkley at #1 and take your qb at #4 not caring whom falls to you

    5.) Shock the World..Take Barkley at #1 and Chubb at #4 then trade up to grab whichever qb falls. I think the floor is Miami for the top 4 at #11. This would take a ton of balls, use up lots of draft capital, and have a lot of faith.

    6.) Out think themselves, and not take a qb until one of their late 2nd round picks and believe TT is going to lead them for the next 5 yrs

    @bigalow80 said:

    The Browns are in an interesting spot, no doubt. IMOP, They have to take a qb at #1 now. No excuses. Dorsey is a dice roller and is not afraid to take chances on upside. I would love to see his qb board. As much as I get excited about each qb, they all scare me. Darnold has the least amount of fear factor, so I'm definitely leaning that way. Not to mention, he is the youngest of the bunch at 20 years old.

    But where it gets interesting is in the scenarios: 

    1) Three qb's go in the top 3 picks. Giants, Bills, Dolphins or Miami make the pick at #2. It doesn't matter. That leaves chubb, barkley, nelson, and fitzpatrick on the board at #4. If they choose a player, in this scenario if they want to take a player and not trade back, I think it's chubb. They have two dominant DE's whom are young for the next 4 years. Fans will scream for Barkley but there is enough depth in the class and Dorsey has NEVER taken a first round RB

    2.) Same scenario as above, only Buffalo calls because the Giants make a pick at #2. If I'm Cleveland I ask for this: #12, 22, 53, 56 and Tre'davious White. If they are willing to make this deal, I take it. I then turn around and call denver and offer them 2 of the 5 second round picks that I have plus #12, to move up to #5. I still take Chubb at #5, but now you have not only bolstered the secondary with White, but you also added the best defender in the draft and still have 3 second round picks.

    3.) Surprise everyone...Take Chubb at #1 and draft your qb at #4

    4.) Draft Barkley at #1 and take your qb at #4 not caring whom falls to you

    5.) Shock the World..Take Barkley at #1 and Chubb at #4 then trade up to grab whichever qb falls. I think the floor is Miami for the top 4 at #11. This would take a ton of balls, use up lots of draft capital, and have a lot of faith.

    6.) Out think themselves, and not take a qb until one of their late 2nd round picks and believe TT is going to lead them for the next 5 yrs

    I highly doubt the Bills do that trade, but I certainly would entertain that.

    But I would say there is less than 1% chance Denver makes that trade. They see BUF trade 2 1sts, 2 2nds, and 1st last year to move to #4, they will want more than 12 and 2 2nds.