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  • @nero said:

    Tour, 

    I have a question for you and your mailbox is full...

    What's your take? Should I put on my burger mustard and then ketchup, or ketchup and then mustard? 

    While you're at it, classic mustard or honey mustard? In Spain we have less variety in mustards.

    Thanks,

    Nero

    Nero,

    I asked a legitimate question of someone who may know more about the situation.

    I did NOT ask it to be ridiculed by you, you condescending SOB! Go to Hell!

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Nero,

    I asked a legitimate question of someone who may know more about the situation.

    I did NOT ask it to be ridiculed by you, you condescending SOB! Go to Hell!

    Mike

    If you read carefully what you said, I also asked a legitimate question.

    Tour probably has eaten more burgers than I have (simply because of the age difference), thus knows more about the situation. 😁

  • I think we are taking Darnold, he’s a young kid. We wouldn’t have traded for Taylor if it was Rosen. He doesn’t need a year to learn. Mayfield doesn’t either

    @londonbrown said:

    I think we are taking Darnold, he’s a young kid. We wouldn’t have traded for Taylor if it was Rosen. He doesn’t need a year to learn. Mayfield doesn’t either

    That's a thought.

    ...me, I don't think they want any rookie QB to play this year.

  • I think we are taking Darnold, he’s a young kid. We wouldn’t have traded for Taylor if it was Rosen. He doesn’t need a year to learn. Mayfield doesn’t either

    @londonbrown said:

    I think we are taking Darnold, he’s a young kid. We wouldn’t have traded for Taylor if it was Rosen. He doesn’t need a year to learn. Mayfield doesn’t either

    Darnold certainly is the way the wind blows. Still, I don't see how anyone who watched USC's bowl game and saw how shell-shocked Darnold looked could have come away with anything but serious reservations about him. I know it's just one game, but it was the big one where he was supposed to elevate his game.

    So is Darnold a foregone conclusion? Maybe but I have a hard time believing it. I almost think BPA at 1 and Josh Allen at 4. I'm not a huge Josh Allen fan, but think his upside, to be realized would require him to sit for a year just like Darnold.

  • The knee jerk reaction by immature jackwagons to ascribe negative labels on anybody who disagrees with them,

    is an epidemic.

    Too bad - it's identity politics gone nazi brownshirt. It will just stink up this board, and the childish putting of discussion opponents

    on the personal defensive reeks of ignorant belligerence. It seems to be self-serving "Lord of the Flies" hostility once in a while.

    Too bad. Demagoguery gone wild. Too bad. That's stooping really low.

    @calfoxwc said:

    The knee jerk reaction by immature jackwagons to ascribe negative labels on anybody who disagrees with them,

    is an epidemic.

    Too bad - it's identity politics gone nazi brownshirt. It will just stink up this board, and the childish putting of discussion opponents

    on the personal defensive reeks of ignorant belligerence. It seems to be self-serving "Lord of the Flies" hostility once in a while.

    Too bad. Demagoguery gone wild. Too bad. That's stooping really low.

    Of all the cal's we get the extreme pleasure of reading on this board, I can confidently say that "snowflake victim cal" is my favorite cal. 

  • I think we are taking Darnold, he’s a young kid. We wouldn’t have traded for Taylor if it was Rosen. He doesn’t need a year to learn. Mayfield doesn’t either

    @londonbrown said:

    I think we are taking Darnold, he’s a young kid. We wouldn’t have traded for Taylor if it was Rosen. He doesn’t need a year to learn. Mayfield doesn’t either

    I don't know if I totally agree with this LB, but I can't argue with your sound reasoning on this. 

    Makes a lot of sense - and it could definitely apply to Allen too... 

  • @mld-woody said:

    It's almost like Rosen comes from a wealthy family that could afford all of the QB coaching they could possibly give him...

    I think the question about the character might possibly have to do something with that. If you've been Rich all your life and just athletically gifted you be less dedicated to succeed in sports. 

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I think the question about the character might possibly have to do something with that. If you've been Rich all your life and just athletically gifted you be less dedicated to succeed in sports. 

    WSS

    I get what you are saying, but Peyton and Eli Manning didn't exactly grow up the sons of an immigrant steel worker in Western PA. 

    In fact, I'd venture a guess that a majority of white pro athletes came from some level of "money". 

  • @westside-steve said:

    I think the question about the character might possibly have to do something with that. If you've been Rich all your life and just athletically gifted you be less dedicated to succeed in sports. 

    WSS

    I get what you are saying, but Peyton and Eli Manning didn't exactly grow up the sons of an immigrant steel worker in Western PA. 

    In fact, I'd venture a guess that a majority of white pro athletes came from some level of "money". 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I get what you are saying, but Peyton and Eli Manning didn't exactly grow up the sons of an immigrant steel worker in Western PA. 

    In fact, I'd venture a guess that a majority of white pro athletes came from some level of "money". 

    No they didn't. Let's see now,, hmmm, whois their father again? Oh yes one of the national football league's greatest players Archie Manning! You think that helped? What do Josh Rosen's Mom and Dad do for a living?

    😉

    WSS

  • I always question the AFCN climate factor in QB's..When or if we get to playoff crunch time..Playing turfs could get hard & frozen..Kizer grew up playing in it.Ben,Flacco them too. red head Dolt-en not sure where that luff came from? Darnold has the frame to manage it,his ball security issues doubles in whether.. Tyrod named as starter should be.Testing this new OL coming into season. Rosen does not have the Cali clean bill of health of Rogers coming out of Cal..Just something to consider, to the choices at #1..No am not considering Allen due to snow factor games..But I would consider him taking out some light bulbs on a suspended over the 50 yard line jumbo-tron🥷(hey, i did hit that barn)     

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I get what you are saying, but Peyton and Eli Manning didn't exactly grow up the sons of an immigrant steel worker in Western PA. 

    In fact, I'd venture a guess that a majority of white pro athletes came from some level of "money". 

    No they didn't. Let's see now,, hmmm, whois their father again? Oh yes one of the national football league's greatest players Archie Manning! You think that helped? What do Josh Rosen's Mom and Dad do for a living?

    😉

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

     No they didn't. Let's see now,, hmmm, whois their father again? Oh yes one of the national football league's greatest players Archie Manning! You think that helped? What do Josh Rosen's Mom and Dad do for a living?

    😉

    WSS

    I have no idea what Rosen's parents do for a living. Doctor? Lawyer? Are they the Jewish Huxtable family? 😆 

    But the Manning boys came from money, and apparently so does Rosen. 

  • I looked it up. Josh Rosen old man is an orthopedic surgeon who was once an Olympian skater.

    So without Joe Thomas that would come in handy...

    WSS

  • I always question the AFCN climate factor in QB's..When or if we get to playoff crunch time..Playing turfs could get hard & frozen..Kizer grew up playing in it.Ben,Flacco them too. red head Dolt-en not sure where that luff came from? Darnold has the frame to manage it,his ball security issues doubles in whether.. Tyrod named as starter should be.Testing this new OL coming into season. Rosen does not have the Cali clean bill of health of Rogers coming out of Cal..Just something to consider, to the choices at #1..No am not considering Allen due to snow factor games..But I would consider him taking out some light bulbs on a suspended over the 50 yard line jumbo-tron🥷(hey, i did hit that barn)     

    @gumby73 said:

    I always question the AFCN climate factor in QB's..When or if we get to playoff crunch time..Playing turfs could get hard & frozen..Kizer grew up playing in it.Ben,Flacco them too. red head Dolt-en not sure where that luff came from? Darnold has the frame to manage it,his ball security issues doubles in whether.. Tyrod named as starter should be.Testing this new OL coming into season. Rosen does not have the Cali clean bill of health of Rogers coming out of Cal..Just something to consider, to the choices at #1..No am not considering Allen due to snow factor games..But I would consider him taking out some light bulbs on a suspended over th 50 jumbo-tron🥷(hey, i did hit that barn)     

    The three greatest QBs in the history of the worst weather team in the NFL - the Green Bay Packers - were Bart Starr, Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers.

    They came from Alabama, Mississippi and California.  

  • @gumby73 said:

    I always question the AFCN climate factor in QB's..When or if we get to playoff crunch time..Playing turfs could get hard & frozen..Kizer grew up playing in it.Ben,Flacco them too. red head Dolt-en not sure where that luff came from? Darnold has the frame to manage it,his ball security issues doubles in whether.. Tyrod named as starter should be.Testing this new OL coming into season. Rosen does not have the Cali clean bill of health of Rogers coming out of Cal..Just something to consider, to the choices at #1..No am not considering Allen due to snow factor games..But I would consider him taking out some light bulbs on a suspended over th 50 jumbo-tron🥷(hey, i did hit that barn)     

    The three greatest QBs in the history of the worst weather team in the NFL - the Green Bay Packers - were Bart Starr, Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers.

    They came from Alabama, Mississippi and California.  

    @dutch-oven said:

    The three greatest QBs in the history of the worst weather team in the NFL - the Green Bay Packers - were Bart Starr, Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers.

    They came from Alabama, Mississippi and California.  

    And every one of those has played thru a concussion at sometime in there career..Favre maybe 2 to many..Rosen skipped a bowl game & now with the protocal's..He is a risk. And they will watch for it.. 

  • Darnold #1

  • @dutch-oven said:

    The three greatest QBs in the history of the worst weather team in the NFL - the Green Bay Packers - were Bart Starr, Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers.

    They came from Alabama, Mississippi and California.  

    And every one of those has played thru a concussion at sometime in there career..Favre maybe 2 to many..Rosen skipped a bowl game & now with the protocal's..He is a risk. And they will watch for it.. 

    @gumby73 said:

    And every one of those has played thru a concussion at sometime in there career..Favre maybe 2 to many..Rosen skipped a bowl game & now with the protocal's..He is a risk. And they will watch for it.. 

    Rosen's injury history is a valid concern, for sure. 

  • sydS syd

    Darnold #1

    @syd said:

    Darnold #1

    and am still not counting Baker Mayfield out of it yet either.Sam Darnolds Pro Day is tomorrow.Might rain..am ready to see this new Palmer whind up 

  • They also watch concussions a lot more closely than they used to.  Especially in college, but also in the NFL. 

    I don't think what happened to colt mccoy a few years ago would happen now.  

  • @londonbrown said:

    I think we are taking Darnold, he’s a young kid. We wouldn’t have traded for Taylor if it was Rosen. He doesn’t need a year to learn. Mayfield doesn’t either

    Darnold certainly is the way the wind blows. Still, I don't see how anyone who watched USC's bowl game and saw how shell-shocked Darnold looked could have come away with anything but serious reservations about him. I know it's just one game, but it was the big one where he was supposed to elevate his game.

    So is Darnold a foregone conclusion? Maybe but I have a hard time believing it. I almost think BPA at 1 and Josh Allen at 4. I'm not a huge Josh Allen fan, but think his upside, to be realized would require him to sit for a year just like Darnold.

    @hish747 said:

    I almost think BPA at 1 and Josh Allen at 4.

    You said 'almost'.  

    I don't see how to leave the most important position on the team to chance and 'hope' he falls to #4.  - If you think Josh Allen is the QB for your team, then you take him at #1 and NOT let anyone else take him.  WHOEVER (of the top 4) is the QB you like best, you pick him right there at #1.  NO gettin' cute with the QB position.

  • Really simple bird beek is injury prone and a bad attitude I’ll pass, mayfield is little Johnny 2.0 he’s not a good athlete placed last in all the test at the combine and the fan boys that say he’s a competitor well they all are, and Allen is big and has a cannon, but not accurate and no touch. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    But I am absolutely right about this perception.

    Nevertheless....Cal can certainly disavow it...and hopefully resolve it. 

    Having met him, I would think, and hope not.

    Sorry that I had to be the one to have the courage to bring it to the surface. 

    No you are not right about his perception. You are an idiot and a loudmouth and you don't know what you're talking about. You have no courage, no brains and in this instance no clue.

    This has nothing to do with your stupid politics or his. I know Cal personally and I know him to be one of the most pro-israel pro-jewish guys in my acquaintance.

    You can take it from here Cal.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I know Cal personally and I know him to be one of the most pro-israel pro-jewish guys in my acquaintance.

    First, being pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are not synonymous. There are a lot of Christians who are the former, but not the latter.

    @westside-steve said:

    Which may or may not be valid.

    There... All it takes to breakthru is to allow for the possibility that a position is incorrect.

    @dutch-oven said:

    Of all the cal's we get the extreme pleasure of reading on this board, I can confidently say that "snowflake victim cal" is my favorite cal. 

    It's the projection that always entertains... that ultimate, prideful ascription of what is truest in him to those with whom he disagrees.

    I swear... the smirk with which he surely types that... is palpable.