Tyrod Taylor A Brown
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Personally, I think TT was the best option of the FA bunch. Yes, it cost the browns #65 but in the grand scheme of things, the browns were going to trade away draft picks either way because 12 are way too many. In doing so, they got a 28 year old qb who has been at worst, a very solid nfl qb. Compared to the other FA's lets take a look:
Cousins: $84 million guaranteed at 28/yr. too much money IMOP
Keenum: $36 million with over 24 guaranteed for a guy whom has had one good year at the age of 30 with a team that was as dominant as any team in the league
Bradford: $20 million guaranteed for one year for a guy who can't stay healthy with a degenerative knee
Teddy B: $3 million guaranteed but IMOP I would stay as far away as possible from a guy whom had his knee injury
McCown: $10 million guaranteed on a 1 year deal. he's probably the best "bridge" qb and part time coach on the market. The browns should have kept him last year for Kizer. He enjoyed NY and I don't think the browns were going to give him that kind of money
McCarron: $10 million deal but I believe only 6 guaranteed. He never wanted to be a bridge and probably was not going to play nice in the sandbox. Dorsey made a power play over Hue.
Taylor: $16 million on a 1 year deal for a guy who just led his team to the playoffs for the first time in 20 years. Outside of Keenum, the only one on this list. Taylor may not want to be a "bridge" either, but he also has tape to prove what he can do unlike McCarron. He knows he needs to go out and win and play well or he will forever be a back-up qb in this league. this is his prove it deal. I would not be surprised to see the browns renegotiate his contract to a 2 or 3 year deal.
Personally, I think TT was the best option of the FA bunch. Yes, it cost the browns #65 but in the grand scheme of things, the browns were going to trade away draft picks either way because 12 are way too many. In doing so, they got a 28 year old qb who has been at worst, a very solid nfl qb. Compared to the other FA's lets take a look:
Cousins: $84 million guaranteed at 28/yr. too much money IMOP
Keenum: $36 million with over 24 guaranteed for a guy whom has had one good year at the age of 30 with a team that was as dominant as any team in the league
Bradford: $20 million guaranteed for one year for a guy who can't stay healthy with a degenerative knee
Teddy B: $3 million guaranteed but IMOP I would stay as far away as possible from a guy whom had his knee injury
McCown: $10 million guaranteed on a 1 year deal. he's probably the best "bridge" qb and part time coach on the market. The browns should have kept him last year for Kizer. He enjoyed NY and I don't think the browns were going to give him that kind of money
McCarron: $10 million deal but I believe only 6 guaranteed. He never wanted to be a bridge and probably was not going to play nice in the sandbox. Dorsey made a power play over Hue.
Taylor: $16 million on a 1 year deal for a guy who just led his team to the playoffs for the first time in 20 years. Outside of Keenum, the only one on this list. Taylor may not want to be a "bridge" either, but he also has tape to prove what he can do unlike McCarron. He knows he needs to go out and win and play well or he will forever be a back-up qb in this league. this is his prove it deal. I would not be surprised to see the browns renegotiate his contract to a 2 or 3 year deal.
Which still begs the question if Buffalo is sitting on a sure thing why they would they dump the guy? I'm sure they could have easily had some more Firepower to his Arsenal if he's a franchise QB? Must be some reason they Must be some reason they thought of him as a stumbling block.
WSS
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Personally, I think TT was the best option of the FA bunch. Yes, it cost the browns #65 but in the grand scheme of things, the browns were going to trade away draft picks either way because 12 are way too many. In doing so, they got a 28 year old qb who has been at worst, a very solid nfl qb. Compared to the other FA's lets take a look:
Cousins: $84 million guaranteed at 28/yr. too much money IMOP
Keenum: $36 million with over 24 guaranteed for a guy whom has had one good year at the age of 30 with a team that was as dominant as any team in the league
Bradford: $20 million guaranteed for one year for a guy who can't stay healthy with a degenerative knee
Teddy B: $3 million guaranteed but IMOP I would stay as far away as possible from a guy whom had his knee injury
McCown: $10 million guaranteed on a 1 year deal. he's probably the best "bridge" qb and part time coach on the market. The browns should have kept him last year for Kizer. He enjoyed NY and I don't think the browns were going to give him that kind of money
McCarron: $10 million deal but I believe only 6 guaranteed. He never wanted to be a bridge and probably was not going to play nice in the sandbox. Dorsey made a power play over Hue.
Taylor: $16 million on a 1 year deal for a guy who just led his team to the playoffs for the first time in 20 years. Outside of Keenum, the only one on this list. Taylor may not want to be a "bridge" either, but he also has tape to prove what he can do unlike McCarron. He knows he needs to go out and win and play well or he will forever be a back-up qb in this league. this is his prove it deal. I would not be surprised to see the browns renegotiate his contract to a 2 or 3 year deal.
Which still begs the question if Buffalo is sitting on a sure thing why they would they dump the guy? I'm sure they could have easily had some more Firepower to his Arsenal if he's a franchise QB? Must be some reason they Must be some reason they thought of him as a stumbling block.
WSS
Which still begs the question if Buffalo is sitting on a sure thing why they would they dump the guy? I'm sure they could have easily had some more Firepower to his Arsenal if he's a franchise QB? Must be some reason they Must be some reason they thought of him as a stumbling block.
WSS
Could be Steve but that still makes him 5X's better than anyone in the QB room last season. I like his low turnover ratio coming to a team that kept staying close almost every game. There were at least 5-7 games that Taylor would have won for us IMO. Think about that plus not having Clueless Hueless running the O this year. And far better skilled players being added already plus those we haul in from the draft. This is going to be a fun year just to watch what happens each week. It won't be so predictable this time compared to the last two.
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Which still begs the question if Buffalo is sitting on a sure thing why they would they dump the guy? I'm sure they could have easily had some more Firepower to his Arsenal if he's a franchise QB? Must be some reason they Must be some reason they thought of him as a stumbling block.
WSS
Could be Steve but that still makes him 5X's better than anyone in the QB room last season. I like his low turnover ratio coming to a team that kept staying close almost every game. There were at least 5-7 games that Taylor would have won for us IMO. Think about that plus not having Clueless Hueless running the O this year. And far better skilled players being added already plus those we haul in from the draft. This is going to be a fun year just to watch what happens each week. It won't be so predictable this time compared to the last two.
Could be Steve but that still makes him 5X's better than anyone in the QB room last season. I like his low turnover ratio coming to a team that kept staying close almost every game. There were at least 5-7 games that Taylor would have won for us IMO. Think about that plus not having Clueless Hueless running the O this year. And far better skilled players being added already plus those we haul in from the draft. This is going to be a fun year just to watch what happens each week. It won't be so predictable this time compared to the last two.
That low turnover rate might well have something to do with the offensive game plan.
WSS
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Personally, I think TT was the best option of the FA bunch. Yes, it cost the browns #65 but in the grand scheme of things, the browns were going to trade away draft picks either way because 12 are way too many. In doing so, they got a 28 year old qb who has been at worst, a very solid nfl qb. Compared to the other FA's lets take a look:
Cousins: $84 million guaranteed at 28/yr. too much money IMOP
Keenum: $36 million with over 24 guaranteed for a guy whom has had one good year at the age of 30 with a team that was as dominant as any team in the league
Bradford: $20 million guaranteed for one year for a guy who can't stay healthy with a degenerative knee
Teddy B: $3 million guaranteed but IMOP I would stay as far away as possible from a guy whom had his knee injury
McCown: $10 million guaranteed on a 1 year deal. he's probably the best "bridge" qb and part time coach on the market. The browns should have kept him last year for Kizer. He enjoyed NY and I don't think the browns were going to give him that kind of money
McCarron: $10 million deal but I believe only 6 guaranteed. He never wanted to be a bridge and probably was not going to play nice in the sandbox. Dorsey made a power play over Hue.
Taylor: $16 million on a 1 year deal for a guy who just led his team to the playoffs for the first time in 20 years. Outside of Keenum, the only one on this list. Taylor may not want to be a "bridge" either, but he also has tape to prove what he can do unlike McCarron. He knows he needs to go out and win and play well or he will forever be a back-up qb in this league. this is his prove it deal. I would not be surprised to see the browns renegotiate his contract to a 2 or 3 year deal.
Which still begs the question if Buffalo is sitting on a sure thing why they would they dump the guy? I'm sure they could have easily had some more Firepower to his Arsenal if he's a franchise QB? Must be some reason they Must be some reason they thought of him as a stumbling block.
WSS
Which still begs the question if Buffalo is sitting on a sure thing why they would they dump the guy? I'm sure they could have easily had some more Firepower to his Arsenal if he's a franchise QB? Must be some reason they Must be some reason they thought of him as a stumbling block.
WSS
The new regime in Buffalo clearly didn't like Taylor or really want him this past season. Based on retarded decision to bench him when they're 5-4 for some dude that no one has ever heard of and he went out there and tossed 6 picks in the first half against the Chargers. I think he's a barely above average QB, which makes him light years better than any QB we've had since 99 so that should make it more fun to watch him play this year while our new rookie QB sits and watches.
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Could be Steve but that still makes him 5X's better than anyone in the QB room last season. I like his low turnover ratio coming to a team that kept staying close almost every game. There were at least 5-7 games that Taylor would have won for us IMO. Think about that plus not having Clueless Hueless running the O this year. And far better skilled players being added already plus those we haul in from the draft. This is going to be a fun year just to watch what happens each week. It won't be so predictable this time compared to the last two.
That low turnover rate might well have something to do with the offensive game plan.
WSS
That low turnover rate might well have something to do with the offensive game plan.
WSS
Don't know. Did not watch much Buffalo. But even if that is the case, I'd rather we keep building that D and run the low turnover O like Denver did to get the SB win.
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That low turnover rate might well have something to do with the offensive game plan.
WSS
Don't know. Did not watch much Buffalo. But even if that is the case, I'd rather we keep building that D and run the low turnover O like Denver did to get the SB win.
Don't know. Did not watch much Buffalo. But even if that is the case, I'd rather we keep building that D and run the low turnover O like Denver did to get the SB win.
Frankly he wasn't my choice but I'm sure he'll be be ok if he actually is considered a bridge.
Doesn't seem like a crappy old veteran willing to take a young player under his wing but who knows? I suppose anybody with a couple years of experience would have done a better job than DeShone Kizer. Then again he got screwed by bad game plan. Was asked to do more than he was able to do.
WSS
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Don't know. Did not watch much Buffalo. But even if that is the case, I'd rather we keep building that D and run the low turnover O like Denver did to get the SB win.
Frankly he wasn't my choice but I'm sure he'll be be ok if he actually is considered a bridge.
Doesn't seem like a crappy old veteran willing to take a young player under his wing but who knows? I suppose anybody with a couple years of experience would have done a better job than DeShone Kizer. Then again he got screwed by bad game plan. Was asked to do more than he was able to do.
WSS
Frankly he wasn't my choice but I'm sure he'll be be ok if he actually is considered a bridge.
Doesn't seem like a crappy old veteran willing to take a young player under his wing but who knows? I suppose anybody with a couple years of experience would have done a better job than DeShone Kizer. Then again he got screwed by bad game plan. Was asked to do more than he was able to do.
WSS
Agree and thank God we made Hue take an OC. He sucked at it.
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Frankly he wasn't my choice but I'm sure he'll be be ok if he actually is considered a bridge.
Doesn't seem like a crappy old veteran willing to take a young player under his wing but who knows? I suppose anybody with a couple years of experience would have done a better job than DeShone Kizer. Then again he got screwed by bad game plan. Was asked to do more than he was able to do.
WSS
Agree and thank God we made Hue take an OC. He sucked at it.
Agree and thank God we made Hue take an OC. He sucked at it.
Then again, and maybe it's Devil's Advocate, maybe it was the plan to tank the season. No matter what anybody says it had to be obvious that you started with a clear disadvantage. Completely untested rookie at the Helm of the youngest team in the league?
Really, the guy's been in football for a long time. At what point does it sink in the even the people in the stands know that you're going to run the crow on 1st and 10?
WSS
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Personally, I think TT was the best option of the FA bunch. Yes, it cost the browns #65 but in the grand scheme of things, the browns were going to trade away draft picks either way because 12 are way too many. In doing so, they got a 28 year old qb who has been at worst, a very solid nfl qb. Compared to the other FA's lets take a look:
Cousins: $84 million guaranteed at 28/yr. too much money IMOP
Keenum: $36 million with over 24 guaranteed for a guy whom has had one good year at the age of 30 with a team that was as dominant as any team in the league
Bradford: $20 million guaranteed for one year for a guy who can't stay healthy with a degenerative knee
Teddy B: $3 million guaranteed but IMOP I would stay as far away as possible from a guy whom had his knee injury
McCown: $10 million guaranteed on a 1 year deal. he's probably the best "bridge" qb and part time coach on the market. The browns should have kept him last year for Kizer. He enjoyed NY and I don't think the browns were going to give him that kind of money
McCarron: $10 million deal but I believe only 6 guaranteed. He never wanted to be a bridge and probably was not going to play nice in the sandbox. Dorsey made a power play over Hue.
Taylor: $16 million on a 1 year deal for a guy who just led his team to the playoffs for the first time in 20 years. Outside of Keenum, the only one on this list. Taylor may not want to be a "bridge" either, but he also has tape to prove what he can do unlike McCarron. He knows he needs to go out and win and play well or he will forever be a back-up qb in this league. this is his prove it deal. I would not be surprised to see the browns renegotiate his contract to a 2 or 3 year deal.
Which still begs the question if Buffalo is sitting on a sure thing why they would they dump the guy? I'm sure they could have easily had some more Firepower to his Arsenal if he's a franchise QB? Must be some reason they Must be some reason they thought of him as a stumbling block.
WSS
Which still begs the question if Buffalo is sitting on a sure thing why they would they dump the guy?
Same reason we dumped Kizer... it became clear he was not our future.
Then again, and maybe it's Devil's Advocate, maybe it was the plan to tank the season. No matter what anybody says it had to be obvious that you started with a clear disadvantage. Completely untested rookie at the Helm of the youngest team in the league?
While I've never believed we went in with the goal of "tanking", I think we knew it was a possibility. If not from the opening of Camp, then surely by the end of preseason, despite it being an undefeated preseason, when Kizer prematurely won the starting job... or Kessler unexpectedly lost it.
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Personally, I think TT was the best option of the FA bunch. Yes, it cost the browns #65 but in the grand scheme of things, the browns were going to trade away draft picks either way because 12 are way too many. In doing so, they got a 28 year old qb who has been at worst, a very solid nfl qb. Compared to the other FA's lets take a look:
Cousins: $84 million guaranteed at 28/yr. too much money IMOP
Keenum: $36 million with over 24 guaranteed for a guy whom has had one good year at the age of 30 with a team that was as dominant as any team in the league
Bradford: $20 million guaranteed for one year for a guy who can't stay healthy with a degenerative knee
Teddy B: $3 million guaranteed but IMOP I would stay as far away as possible from a guy whom had his knee injury
McCown: $10 million guaranteed on a 1 year deal. he's probably the best "bridge" qb and part time coach on the market. The browns should have kept him last year for Kizer. He enjoyed NY and I don't think the browns were going to give him that kind of money
McCarron: $10 million deal but I believe only 6 guaranteed. He never wanted to be a bridge and probably was not going to play nice in the sandbox. Dorsey made a power play over Hue.
Taylor: $16 million on a 1 year deal for a guy who just led his team to the playoffs for the first time in 20 years. Outside of Keenum, the only one on this list. Taylor may not want to be a "bridge" either, but he also has tape to prove what he can do unlike McCarron. He knows he needs to go out and win and play well or he will forever be a back-up qb in this league. this is his prove it deal. I would not be surprised to see the browns renegotiate his contract to a 2 or 3 year deal.
Which still begs the question if Buffalo is sitting on a sure thing why they would they dump the guy? I'm sure they could have easily had some more Firepower to his Arsenal if he's a franchise QB? Must be some reason they Must be some reason they thought of him as a stumbling block.
WSS
Which still begs the question if Buffalo is sitting on a sure thing why they would they dump the guy? I'm sure they could have easily had some more Firepower to his Arsenal if he's a franchise QB? Must be some reason they Must be some reason they thought of him as a stumbling block.
WSS
Just my gut feel but BUF wanted another direction and the BROWNS were getting nervous about getting shut out of the experienced QB FA market.
I think the BROWNS came out ahead on this deal. Then they jettisoned Kizer like yesterday's fish and lost their only really experienced QB.
Obviously now they plan on having a true rookie as the "one snap away guy" as a backup? Gulp.
........edit add, oh yeah Kessler or whomever is there, not a big comfort for me.
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Which still begs the question if Buffalo is sitting on a sure thing why they would they dump the guy? I'm sure they could have easily had some more Firepower to his Arsenal if he's a franchise QB? Must be some reason they Must be some reason they thought of him as a stumbling block.
WSS
Just my gut feel but BUF wanted another direction and the BROWNS were getting nervous about getting shut out of the experienced QB FA market.
I think the BROWNS came out ahead on this deal. Then they jettisoned Kizer like yesterday's fish and lost their only really experienced QB.
Obviously now they plan on having a true rookie as the "one snap away guy" as a backup? Gulp.
........edit add, oh yeah Kessler or whomever is there, not a big comfort for me.
Just my gut feel but BUF wanted another direction and the BROWNS were getting nervous about getting shut out of the experienced QB FA market.
I think the BROWNS came out ahead on this deal. Then they jettisoned Kizer like yesterday's fish and lost their only really experienced QB.
Obviously now they plan on having a true rookie as the "one snap away guy" as a backup? Gulp.
........edit add, oh yeah Kessler or whomever is there, not a big comfort for me.
Well as you know I didn't want Kizer, nor did I want him to start immediately, but thought he had potential and heard enough of the pundits saying that he showed some improvement of the season went on. Which I guess is the best you can ask being thrown into an untenable situation.
On the other hand I don't suppose we get a straight answer about any of the inner workings of the NFL anyway.
WSS
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Interesting factoid...
The Liberal Browns @LiberalBrowns
@TyrodTaylor owns teams who sit in Zone coverage. Coincidentally, The Steelers & Bengals are both in the Top 3 for Zone usage... with the Ravens not too far behind. Dorsey's decision to trade for Tyrod was no mistake#Browns fans.#AnalyticsAreForNerds"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Interesting factoid...
The Liberal Browns @LiberalBrowns
@TyrodTaylor owns teams who sit in Zone coverage. Coincidentally, The Steelers & Bengals are both in the Top 3 for Zone usage... with the Ravens not too far behind. Dorsey's decision to trade for Tyrod was no mistake#Browns fans.#AnalyticsAreForNerdsInteresting factoid...
The Liberal Browns @LiberalBrowns
@TyrodTaylor owns teams who sit in Zone coverage. Coincidentally, The Steelers & Bengals are both in the Top 3 for Zone usage... with the Ravens not too far behind. Dorsey's decision to trade for Tyrod was no mistake#Browns fans.#AnalyticsAreForNerdsWhat does this mean? I think you have to flesh this out a bit.
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Interesting factoid...
The Liberal Browns @LiberalBrowns
@TyrodTaylor owns teams who sit in Zone coverage. Coincidentally, The Steelers & Bengals are both in the Top 3 for Zone usage... with the Ravens not too far behind. Dorsey's decision to trade for Tyrod was no mistake#Browns fans.#AnalyticsAreForNerdsWhat does this mean? I think you have to flesh this out a bit.
What does this mean? I think you have to flesh this out a bit.
Tyrod has great production against Zone Coverage. Our AFC North rivals are among the very top users of zone coverage in the entire league.
Therefore, he appears to be a shrewd choice for Dorsey and the Browns.
Zombo
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What does this mean? I think you have to flesh this out a bit.
Tyrod has great production against Zone Coverage. Our AFC North rivals are among the very top users of zone coverage in the entire league.
Therefore, he appears to be a shrewd choice for Dorsey and the Browns.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Tyrod has great production against Zone Coverage. Our AFC North rivals are among the very top users of zone coverage in the entire league.
Therefore, he appears to be a shrewd choice for Dorsey and the Browns.
Zombo
I got that much....I am just wondering about the statistics that bear that out.
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This ought to help...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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What does this mean? I think you have to flesh this out a bit.
Tyrod has great production against Zone Coverage. Our AFC North rivals are among the very top users of zone coverage in the entire league.
Therefore, he appears to be a shrewd choice for Dorsey and the Browns.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Therefore, he appears to be a shrewd choice for Dorsey and the Browns.
Zombo
When's the last time we had any kind of real plan in "team building" with a purpose? not sure who opened who's eyes on Tyrod, from FO to coaches? but it's New..Now to get a roster built with similar planning. Than a coaching staff, preparing their team to weaknesses from weekly game film of opponents..We may just surprise ourselves into finishing some games..a lot to like here..(good find tour)
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