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From nobody to the top of the first round of the draft - Josh Allen

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  • Yes... it's an opinion board and I was giving mine.

  • Josh Allen barely completed over 50% of his passes in high school, below that (49%) at juco level, and continued to be inaccurate at Wyoming.

    I truly hope Dorsey and Co. don’t pick this dud.

  • Second interview had the same concerns about completion % that many of us have and also said Rosen is the most ready for the NFL right now.

  • Second interview had the same concerns about completion % that many of us have and also said Rosen is the most ready for the NFL right now.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Second interview had the same concerns about completion % that many of us have and also said Rosen is the most ready for the NFL right now.

    As long as he is ready to rock and roll a year or two from now. 

    This might be the most second guessed QB draft in NFL history. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Second interview had the same concerns about completion % that many of us have and also said Rosen is the most ready for the NFL right now.

    As long as he is ready to rock and roll a year or two from now. 

    This might be the most second guessed QB draft in NFL history. 

    @mjp28 said:

    This might be the most second guessed QB draft in NFL history. 

    Goff-Wentz would give it a run for its money.

    Plus more QBs this year, so more "guessed-es"...

  • @flugel said:

    Like him or laugh at him, the biggest thing I ever saw Mel Kiper get right was "beware the last minute risers that surface especially when the football stops being played." 

    Which makes it kinda of weird that he's chosen to back Allen...

    Zombo said:

    That's why I like Darnold. Which of those concerns is the easiest to fix at the pro level?

    • No one is getting taller.
    • Darnold needs some tinkering, some ball security improvement ... Ok ... Meet Hue Jackson, Todd Haley, Mike Zampese, Drew Stanton ... watch Tyrod Taylor, one of the best ball control QBs in the league for a season.
    • Darnold is a gunslinger with a gunslinger mentality ... NFL coaches' job to refine that without losing what you like about him in the first place. He's got a lot of Favre in him. Cool.

    Some tinkering and ball security improvement?

    Which is easier?

    • For Tyrod to show an understudy who is fundamentally sound, taller and more accurate than he is to play as a "short" QB in the NFL... or...
    • Fix a "Darnold"?

    And don't get me started on Farve...

    @tour2ma said:

    And don't get me started on Farve...

    I’m more than a little intrigued by this sentence....

  • @tour2ma said:

    And don't get me started on Farve...

    I’m more than a little intrigued by this sentence....

    @londonbrown said:

    I’m more than a little intrigued by this sentence....

    200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?

    636061234011652639-HOF-Farve-bunny-ears.

    Zombo

  • @mjp28 said:

    This might be the most second guessed QB draft in NFL history. 

    Goff-Wentz would give it a run for its money.

    Plus more QBs this year, so more "guessed-es"...

    @tour2ma said:

    Goff-Wentz would give it a run for its money.

    Plus more QBs this year, so more "guessed-es"...

    I've seen at least 5 of this year's QB class ranked the #1 pick by various prognosticators, check out this little tidbit from SB NATION, wide but not deep?

    https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/4/5/17046116/2018-nfl-draft-quarterbacks-josh-allen-sam-darnold-projections-hype

    There’s a new approach to NFL QB projections — and the 2018 draft class is in trouble

    Looking for a quarterback’s NFL ceiling? Look no further than college stats.

    By Bill Connelly@SBN_BillC  Apr 5, 2018, 9:00am EDT

    Screenshot_2018-04-16-11-43-21.png

  • @tour2ma said:

    Goff-Wentz would give it a run for its money.

    Plus more QBs this year, so more "guessed-es"...

    I've seen at least 5 of this year's QB class ranked the #1 pick by various prognosticators, check out this little tidbit from SB NATION, wide but not deep?

    https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/4/5/17046116/2018-nfl-draft-quarterbacks-josh-allen-sam-darnold-projections-hype

    There’s a new approach to NFL QB projections — and the 2018 draft class is in trouble

    Looking for a quarterback’s NFL ceiling? Look no further than college stats.

    By Bill Connelly@SBN_BillC  Apr 5, 2018, 9:00am EDT

    Screenshot_2018-04-16-11-43-21.png

    @mjp28 said:

    I've seen at least 5 of this year's QB class ranked the #1 pick by various prognosticators, check out this little tidbit from SB NATION, wide but not deep?

    Screenshot_2018-04-16-11-43-21.png

    Lamar Jackson and Josh Rosen most closely compares to Brandon Weeden?  That is a fresh take.   And Allen compared to Tebow?  Where does that come from?

    Sam Darnold on par with Colt McCoy?   Sadly....that actually sounds completely plausible.

  • @mjp28 said:

    I've seen at least 5 of this year's QB class ranked the #1 pick by various prognosticators, check out this little tidbit from SB NATION, wide but not deep?

    Screenshot_2018-04-16-11-43-21.png

    Lamar Jackson and Josh Rosen most closely compares to Brandon Weeden?  That is a fresh take.   And Allen compared to Tebow?  Where does that come from?

    Sam Darnold on par with Colt McCoy?   Sadly....that actually sounds completely plausible.

    @the-gipper said:

    Lamar Jackson and Josh Rosen most closely compares to Brandon Weeden?  That is a fresh take.   And Allen compared to Tebow?  Where does that come from?

    Sam Darnold on par with Colt McCoy?   Sadly....that actually sounds completely plausible.

    It's a bunch of numbers just shifted around to give a new look on this year's QB free for all but there are some unusual results.

    Allen compares with Kizer? Tools maybe. What a year!

  • @londonbrown said:

    I’m more than a little intrigued by this sentence....

    200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?

    636061234011652639-HOF-Farve-bunny-ears.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?

    Never stopped me before...

    By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.

    Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.

  • Zombo said:

    200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?

    Never stopped me before...

    By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.

    Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.

    @tour2ma said:

    Never stopped me before...

    By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.

    Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.

    But John Madden loved Brett Farve, that has to count for something, eh?

    Farve was exciting!

  • Zombo said:

    200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?

    Never stopped me before...

    By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.

    Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.

    @tour2ma said:

    Never stopped me before...

    By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.

    Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.

    An unconventional opinion that I love it 

  • Zombo said:

    200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?

    Never stopped me before...

    By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.

    Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.

    @tour2ma said:

    Never stopped me before...

    By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.

    Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.

    Wow.

    He is my favorite non-Browns QB of all time.

    Zombo

  • Zombo said:

    200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?

    Never stopped me before...

    By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.

    Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.

    @tour2ma said:

    Never stopped me before...

    By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.

    Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.

    Only if you're counting SB wins VS stats. Brady will be the unquestioned GOAT by that yardstick. BTW I have to disagree about Farve being the worst excuse (I looked) Y A Tittle.  🙂   

  • @tour2ma said:

    Never stopped me before...

    By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.

    Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.

    Wow.

    He is my favorite non-Browns QB of all time.

    Zombo

    And one of those stats is career INTs where Favre is far and away #1 with 336... and has a 59 INT cushion on #2.

    Zombo said:

    Wow.

    He is my favorite non-Browns QB of all time.

    Zombo

    Not like we haven't discussed this before.

  • Zombo said:

    200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?

    Never stopped me before...

    By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.

    Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.

    @tour2ma said:

    Never stopped me before...

    By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.

    Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.

    You are venturing into Cal/Rosen territory with unsubstantiated hate.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Quote:   "There hasn't been a successful QB come out in years that had a completion percentage as low as 56%"