From nobody to the top of the first round of the draft - Josh Allen
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Second interview had the same concerns about completion % that many of us have and also said Rosen is the most ready for the NFL right now.
Second interview had the same concerns about completion % that many of us have and also said Rosen is the most ready for the NFL right now.
As long as he is ready to rock and roll a year or two from now.
This might be the most second guessed QB draft in NFL history.
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Second interview had the same concerns about completion % that many of us have and also said Rosen is the most ready for the NFL right now.
As long as he is ready to rock and roll a year or two from now.
This might be the most second guessed QB draft in NFL history.
This might be the most second guessed QB draft in NFL history.
Goff-Wentz would give it a run for its money.
Plus more QBs this year, so more "guessed-es"...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Like him or laugh at him, the biggest thing I ever saw Mel Kiper get right was "beware the last minute risers that surface especially when the football stops being played."
Which makes it kinda of weird that he's chosen to back Allen...
Zombo said:
That's why I like Darnold. Which of those concerns is the easiest to fix at the pro level?
- No one is getting taller.
- Darnold needs some tinkering, some ball security improvement ... Ok ... Meet Hue Jackson, Todd Haley, Mike Zampese, Drew Stanton ... watch Tyrod Taylor, one of the best ball control QBs in the league for a season.
- Darnold is a gunslinger with a gunslinger mentality ... NFL coaches' job to refine that without losing what you like about him in the first place. He's got a lot of Favre in him. Cool.
Some tinkering and ball security improvement?
Which is easier?
- For Tyrod to show an understudy who is fundamentally sound, taller and more accurate than he is to play as a "short" QB in the NFL... or...
- Fix a "Darnold"?
And don't get me started on Farve...
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I’m more than a little intrigued by this sentence....
200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?
Zombo
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Goff-Wentz would give it a run for its money.
Plus more QBs this year, so more "guessed-es"...
I've seen at least 5 of this year's QB class ranked the #1 pick by various prognosticators, check out this little tidbit from SB NATION, wide but not deep?
There’s a new approach to NFL QB projections — and the 2018 draft class is in trouble
Looking for a quarterback’s NFL ceiling? Look no further than college stats.
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Goff-Wentz would give it a run for its money.
Plus more QBs this year, so more "guessed-es"...
I've seen at least 5 of this year's QB class ranked the #1 pick by various prognosticators, check out this little tidbit from SB NATION, wide but not deep?
There’s a new approach to NFL QB projections — and the 2018 draft class is in trouble
Looking for a quarterback’s NFL ceiling? Look no further than college stats.
I've seen at least 5 of this year's QB class ranked the #1 pick by various prognosticators, check out this little tidbit from SB NATION, wide but not deep?
Lamar Jackson and Josh Rosen most closely compares to Brandon Weeden? That is a fresh take. And Allen compared to Tebow? Where does that come from?
Sam Darnold on par with Colt McCoy? Sadly....that actually sounds completely plausible.
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I've seen at least 5 of this year's QB class ranked the #1 pick by various prognosticators, check out this little tidbit from SB NATION, wide but not deep?
Lamar Jackson and Josh Rosen most closely compares to Brandon Weeden? That is a fresh take. And Allen compared to Tebow? Where does that come from?
Sam Darnold on par with Colt McCoy? Sadly....that actually sounds completely plausible.
Lamar Jackson and Josh Rosen most closely compares to Brandon Weeden? That is a fresh take. And Allen compared to Tebow? Where does that come from?
Sam Darnold on par with Colt McCoy? Sadly....that actually sounds completely plausible.
It's a bunch of numbers just shifted around to give a new look on this year's QB free for all but there are some unusual results.
Allen compares with Kizer? Tools maybe. What a year!
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I’m more than a little intrigued by this sentence....
200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?
Zombo
Zombo said:
200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?
Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Zombo said:
200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?
Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
But John Madden loved Brett Farve, that has to count for something, eh?
Farve was exciting!
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Zombo said:
200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?
Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
An unconventional opinion that I love it
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Zombo said:
200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?
Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
Wow.
He is my favorite non-Browns QB of all time.
Zombo
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Zombo said:
200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?
Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
Only if you're counting SB wins VS stats. Brady will be the unquestioned GOAT by that yardstick. BTW I have to disagree about Farve being the worst excuse (I looked) Y A Tittle.
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Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
Wow.
He is my favorite non-Browns QB of all time.
Zombo
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Zombo said:
200 wins, 500 Tds, 70,000 yards, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Ring, great arm, mad scrambling ability, exciting player, loved by teammates ... was he going to say something bad?
Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
You are venturing into Cal/Rosen territory with unsubstantiated hate.
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Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
Only if you're counting SB wins VS stats. Brady will be the unquestioned GOAT by that yardstick. BTW I have to disagree about Farve being the worst excuse (I looked) Y A Tittle.
Only if you're counting SB wins VS stats. Brady will be the unquestioned GOAT by that yardstick. BTW I have to disagree about Farve being the worst excuse (I looked) Y A Tittle.
Here is the list of (modern day) QBs.....in the HOF.
Tell who is unworthy of being in there:
Modern Era: Quarterbacks (26)
Troy Aikman 1989-2000George Blanda (Also PK) 1949-1958, 1960-1975Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983Len Dawson 1957-1975John Elway 1983-1998Brett Favre 1991-2010Dan Fouts 1973-1987Otto Graham 1946-1955Bob Griese 1967-1980Sonny Jurgensen 1957-1974Jim Kelly 1986-1996Bobby Layne 1948-1962Dan Marino 1983-1999Joe Montana 1979-1994Warren Moon 1984-2000Joe Namath 1965-1977Ken Stabler 1970-1984Bart Starr 1956-1971Roger Staubach 1969-1979Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978Y.A. Tittle 1948-1964Johnny Unitas 1956-1973Norm Van Brocklin 1949-1960Kurt Warner 1998-2009Bob Waterfield 1945-1952Steve Young 1985-1999Also, add these "old timers" Any unworthy?Sammy Baugh (QB) 1937-1952Earl Clark (QB) 1931-1932, 1934-1938Jimmy Conzelman (QB) # 1920-1929John Driscoll (QB) 1920-1929Benny Friedman 1927-1934Arnie Herber (QB) 1930-1940, 1944-1945Sid Luckman (QB) 1939-1950Clarence (Ace) Parker (QB) 1937-141, 1945-1946Fritz Pollard (Q
1919-1926
I personally have no issue with any of them. There are a couple that, imo, might should be in that are not....Ken Anderson , McNabb, Brodie, Gabriel....arguable. -
Never stopped me before...
By far Favre cost the Pack more Super Bowls than he won them. The only one they won when he was there was because Reggie White explained things to him so even Brett could understand it.
Brett Favre is the worst excuse for a QB in the HoF.
You are venturing into Cal/Rosen territory with unsubstantiated hate.
You are venturing into Cal/Rosen territory with unsubstantiated hate.
The Reggie White story is well documented in a 330 for 30 IIRC.
His INT total is in the record book.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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The weaknesses scream DeShone Kizer to me
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