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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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    Here, in one person's opinion  (mine)   are the best "Bargain Basement"  draft picks of QBs in the 2000s.   Note:  ergo...you will see like only 1 first round pick among this bunch.  These QBs status as good bargain fines are based on their productivity...and other factors as NFL QBs:

    1.  Tom Brady.  Pick #199   The Mother of All Bargain Basement QBs (unless you count Bart Starr at pick #200.  Lets call Starr the father and Brady the Mother)

    2. Drew Brees.  Pick #32 (which at the time was top of round 2).  Of 9 5000 yard seasons ever in the NFL...Brees has 5 of them.

    3. Aaron Rodgers  Pick #24.  The only first round pick here....but he may be the best playing...so #24 is a real bargain

    4. Russell  Wilson  #75.   Two Super Bowl appearances....one win. Pretty good for a 3rd round pick.

    5. Andy Dalton #35.  While you may not put a lot of faith in him....he did lead his team to 4 straight playoff spots.

    6. Matt Schaub  #90.   Was a good, solid starter  for a couple of teams.  Good for a cusp 3rd/4th rounder

    7. Ryan Fitzpatrick  #250.  He was the primary starting QB for a season for 5 different teams in his career..8 years overall.  For a #250 pick? Incredible actually

    8. Marc Bulger  #168.  Again....such a low draft pick. Primary starting QB for the Rams for 8 years.  

    9. Matt Cassell.   #230.  Again...for that low of a pick....a primary starter for 5 years for different teams, plus a solid backup.

    10. Kirk Cousins #102.  Has produced well for 4th rounder....and could improve mightily even yet.

    11. Tyrod Taylor  #180.  Again...such a low pick.  Stuck around as a backup in B-more 4 years, before being primary starter for Bills for 3...and now Browns

    12. Derek Carr  #36  Second rounder...in theory could be poised to take over the league

    13. Dak Prescott.  #135   Again, early days for him...but his production is excellent after only 2 years.....another who could clearly climb the list.

    14. Nick Foles  #88.  Third rounder.  Defending Super Bowl Champion starting QB.   What else needs to be said?

    15. Derek Anderson  #213.   Yes...that Derek Anderson.  For a #213 pick can be said to have done as well as should be expected.  12 years in the league....one good year with the Browns as starter.

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      mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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      Interesting list you have 7 in the desired top 100 group and 8 in the over 100 group of the bargain basement group since 2000.

      It really shows you that value in starters or backups can come from all levels.

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        Here is a list of the Worst Bargains.    Fairly high draft picks.....little productivity.   I will put these in order of where they were taken in the draft:

        1.  Jamarcus Russell   #1 overall.   Laziest, most lackadaisical pick maybe ever

        2. David Carr  #1 overall.   At least Carr has an excuse that Russell does not:  he went to an expansion team.

        3. Robert Griffin III.  #2 overall.   Injuries partially to blame.  Also, imo, his game just did not fit the pro game

        4. Joey Harrington #3 overall.   Just not any good

        5. Vince Young  #3 overall.  Mental issues sabotaged his career

        6. Byron Leftwich  #7 overall.  

        7. Matt Leinert   #10 overall.   Didn't have the mental toughness

        8. Blaine Gabbert #10 overall.  Vastly overrated and over drafted imo

        9. Christian Ponder  #12 overall.   Ditto for him as for Gabbert.

        10. EJ Manual.   #16 overall.   Thought to be the best of a bad class....maybe he was....just goes to show how bad that class was

        11. Josh Freeman  #17 overall.   Seemed like he could have had all the tools at first....then lost his way.

        12. Kyle Boller.  #19 overall.   The good thing here is that it was the Ravens that took him

        13.  #22  Overall:  Johnny Manziel;  Brandon Weeden; JP Losman;  Brady Quinn; Rex Grossman.   Moral of the story.....do NOT ever draft a fuycking QB at #22 again, particularly if you are the Browns.

        14.  Tim Tebow.  #25 overall.   Not an NFL QB

        15. Paxton Lynch  #26 overall.   Maybe a bit too early to judge?  Probably not.    A busted move.

        16. Patrick Ramsey  #32 overall.   Can anyone even remember him?

        17. JOhn Beck  #40 overall.  

        18. Drew Stanton.  #43 overall.    Not a star, not a bargain... maybe a fair backup is what to expect from a #43 QB pick

        19. Pat White #44 overall. 

        20. Jimmy Clausen  #48 overall.  Better of having drafted a backup OL or DB

        21. Kellen Clemens #49 overall.

        22. Brian Brohm  #46 overall   52 NFL passes

        23. Marques Tuiasosopo.  #59 overall.

        Note, of course, that there seems to have been a lot more bad bargains with 1st and 2d round QB picks than there have been good bargains.

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          Is this another Mason Rudolph thread?

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

            Is this another Mason Rudolph thread?

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            mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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            @mld-woody said:

            Is this another Mason Rudolph thread?

            Out of 38 mentioned players both good and bad I  doubt it. 

            GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              LaDexter said:

              I actually really like what I saw on tape of Luis Perez, QB from Texas A&M Commerce.

              I don't think he is ready to start as a rookie, but he has a strong arm, a quick release, is very accurate, smart, and cool...

              Not sure I have ever even heard of him....so I guess he would be a real bargain basement guy.

              Probably a UDFA.

              In my research I only looked for drafted QBs.    I have no doubt that perhaps over the last 18 years there have been some UDFA QBs that have come in and done a very nice job in the league.

              I am not sure I can name them...but I suspect there are a few out there.   So if anyone else can name them...great, please do so.

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              • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                Is this another Mason Rudolph thread?

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @mld-woody said:

                Is this another Mason Rudolph thread?

                Is your FMU education so deficient that you cannot read simple English?

                It is about QBs who have been  drafted "later" that turned out to fairly productive, given their draft status.

                I would have thought perhaps what with post #3 you may have thought it was a thread about you:   total underachievers.

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                  @mld-woody said:

                  Is this another Mason Rudolph thread?

                  Is your FMU education so deficient that you cannot read simple English?

                  It is about QBs who have been  drafted "later" that turned out to fairly productive, given their draft status.

                  I would have thought perhaps what with post #3 you may have thought it was a thread about you:   total underachievers.

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Is your FMU education so deficient that you cannot read simple English?

                  It is about QBs who have been  drafted "later" that turned out to fairly productive, given their draft status.

                  I would have thought perhaps what with post #3 you may have thought it was a thread about you:   total underachievers.

                  Yep. Rudolph thread

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                    We're shopping Nordstrom's this year.  No more trading for Walmart gift cards thank you. 

                    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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                      htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                      Heath Shuler didn't make the list?  David Carr had a much better career IMO.  He even lost to Nancy Pelosi, to add insult to injury.

                      “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                        @the-gipper said:

                        Is your FMU education so deficient that you cannot read simple English?

                        It is about QBs who have been  drafted "later" that turned out to fairly productive, given their draft status.

                        I would have thought perhaps what with post #3 you may have thought it was a thread about you:   total underachievers.

                        Yep. Rudolph thread

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @mld-woody said:

                        Yep. Rudolph thread

                        OK you confirm that your Shmuck you Michigan education is in fact deficientOK you confirm that your Shmuck you Michigan education is in fact deficient

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                          We're shopping Nordstrom's this year.  No more trading for Walmart gift cards thank you. 

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @orion said:

                          We're shopping Nordstrom's this year.  No more trading for Walmart gift cards thank you. 

                          But we may get Walmart value with our Nordstrom price tagBut we may get Walmart value with our Nordstrom price tag

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                            Heath Shuler didn't make the list?  David Carr had a much better career IMO.  He even lost to Nancy Pelosi, to add insult to injury.

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                            @htownbrown said:

                            Heath Shuler didn't make the list?  David Carr had a much better career IMO.  He even lost to Nancy Pelosi, to add insult to injury.

                            I only went back to the year 2000 Heath Shuler was before that but you're welcome to go back even further say to like 1950 if you wantI only went back to the year 2000 Heath Shuler was before that but you're welcome to go back even further say to like 1950 if you want

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              This is just as likely to be a Luke Falk or a Mike white thread. Or Nick Stevens or some other lower rated quarterback that actually becomes very productive in his career

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                Yep. Rudolph thread

                                OK you confirm that your Shmuck you Michigan education is in fact deficientOK you confirm that your Shmuck you Michigan education is in fact deficient

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                @the-gipper said:

                                OK you confirm that your Shmuck you Michigan education is in fact deficientOK you confirm that your Shmuck you Michigan education is in fact deficient

                                That's a double negative, right? So it's sufficient?

                                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                  This guy could wind up being one of the steals in the draft. I hadn't seen much of him until recently, and he's damn fun to watch. He makes plenty of big time throws and is a next level type of athlete. 

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                                    @htownbrown said:

                                    Heath Shuler didn't make the list?  David Carr had a much better career IMO.  He even lost to Nancy Pelosi, to add insult to injury.

                                    I only went back to the year 2000 Heath Shuler was before that but you're welcome to go back even further say to like 1950 if you wantI only went back to the year 2000 Heath Shuler was before that but you're welcome to go back even further say to like 1950 if you want

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                                    htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    I only went back to the year 2000 Heath Shuler was before that but you're welcome to go back even further say to like 1950 if you wantI only went back to the year 2000 Heath Shuler was before that but you're welcome to go back even further say to like 1950 if you want

                                    Didn't pay attention to the parameters....my bad.

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                                      hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                                      I'm not going to elaborate on names but since 2000, there have been 41 QBs drafted in the first round. Around 14 outright busts, 9 that underperformed (quality backups to spot starters), 10 that were quality starters, and 8 outright studs. Eli, Rodgers, Ryan, BR, Rivers....   

                                      So league wide, better than 50\50 odds you're not going to draft an outright bum qb in the first round. The Browns hit the trifecta with Quinn, Weeden, and Manziel. 

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                                        This guy could wind up being one of the steals in the draft. I hadn't seen much of him until recently, and he's damn fun to watch. He makes plenty of big time throws and is a next level type of athlete. 

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        @sd_tom said:

                                        This guy could wind up being one of the steals in the draft. I hadn't seen much of him until recently, and he's damn fun to watch. He makes plenty of big time throws and is a next level type of athlete. 

                                        Never heard of him. Why are you just now bringing him up?

                                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          OK you confirm that your Shmuck you Michigan education is in fact deficientOK you confirm that your Shmuck you Michigan education is in fact deficient

                                          That's a double negative, right? So it's sufficient?

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                                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          That's a double negative, right? So it's sufficient?

                                          I don't know about no double negative.😉  I just know that you never seem to say anything on here above the intelligence level of third grader.  Perhaps you could try to work to improve on that...if you are able.

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