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  • Sashi had to go.  

    He guided the organization to one win and thirty one losses.     

    He had a quarterback starved team, for eons, with the #2 pick and Wentz to be available, and traded it away stating that they didn't think Wentz would be too good.

    Well, you can do that, but you cannot be wrong.  If that QB turns out to be good, and your QB's continue to suck such that you lose a lot (or always in our case), then you make the organization look like dopes.  But had you TAKEN the QB, even if he failed you would've been seen as TRYING to fix the problem and just being unlucky.

    He had to go.

    @orion said:

    Sashi had to go.  

    He guided the organization to one win and thirty one losses.     

    He had a quarterback starved team, for eons, with the #2 pick and Wentz to be available, and traded it away stating that they didn't think Wentz would be too good.

    Well, you can do that, but you cannot be wrong.  If that QB turns out to be good, and your QB's continue to suck such that you lose a lot (or always in our case), then you make the organization look like dopes.  But had you TAKEN the QB, even if he failed you would've been seen as TRYING to fix the problem and just being unlucky.

    He had to go.

    No, Hue did that.    Get it right.

  • Zombo said:

    Ya, I know we are talking about 2017, and I am a fan of McCown ... but I understand the process that led them to release him.

    They figured they were going to take another shot at QB in the draft. And they had Kessler from the 3rd round the year before who had started half the season. So they let the 38 yo oft-injured McCown go and took a stab at Brock Osweiler (netting a second rounder in the meantime) to come in and be the "veteran" while the rookie got his feet wet. It didn't work out, because Oz was awful. And Kess was awful. And then the rookie turned out to be awful. Not good personnel decisions ... but they were taking a shot. I think the real criticism lies in who they drafted, and when they drafted him, and who they passed up in the draft ... not that they might have won three games with McCown and still be in the same boat this year anyway.

    Zombo

    Thanks. I've been saying this for months.

    Anyway, I think that 2017 being a poor QB class and as promising this 2018 class was at the time had something to do on taking a shot with Kizer in the second round instead of taking it with any other in the first round. 

    We don't know how good is Mahomes, Trubisky looks average to me and Watson played lights out... Only the 7 games he was available. 

    Yeah, Kizer sucked. But other teams which drafted QBs last year didn't end up with way better scenarios. 

    @nero said:

    Thanks.  

    Yeah, Kizer sucked.  

    See That? Deshone Kizer GIF by NFL

  • @westside-steve said:

    Those "fans" are cork soakers.

    WSS

    They are also NOT real fans. REAL Fans would not embarass, belittle, & make fun of their "alleged" team. That isn't support.

    Just one old guy's opinion.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    They are also NOT real fans. REAL Fans would not embarass, belittle, & make fun of their "alleged" team. That isn't support.

    Just one old guy's opinion.

    Mike

    Any my opinion is that a REAL team wouldn't embarrass, humiliate, and make fans suffer for almost two decades of being the worst run franchise in professional sports.

    Just a young guys opinion.

  • @canton-mike said:

    They are also NOT real fans. REAL Fans would not embarass, belittle, & make fun of their "alleged" team. That isn't support.

    Just one old guy's opinion.

    Mike

    Any my opinion is that a REAL team wouldn't embarrass, humiliate, and make fans suffer for almost two decades of being the worst run franchise in professional sports.

    Just a young guys opinion.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Any my opinion is that a REAL team wouldn't embarrass, humiliate, and make fans suffer for almost two decades of being the worst run franchise in professional sports.

    Just a young guys opinion.

    So choose another team. The Browns will live without you.

    Mike

  • I'm starting to understand how "America: Love It Or Leave It" was a thing... 

  • I'm starting to understand how "America: Love It Or Leave It" was a thing... 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm starting to understand how "America: Love It Or Leave It" was a thing... 

    hhhmmm then Archie Bunker would have made a good G.M

  • @westside-steve said:

    Those "fans" are cork soakers.

    WSS

    They are also NOT real fans. REAL Fans would not embarass, belittle, & make fun of their "alleged" team. That isn't support.

    Just one old guy's opinion.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    They are also NOT real fans. REAL Fans would not embarass, belittle, & make fun of their "alleged" team. That isn't support.

    Just one old guy's opinion.

    Mike

    What's wrong, snowflake? Do you need a safe space where your weak mind can somehow remain sheltered from all those mean, mean people who disagree with you?

    Suck it up, buttercup.

    Real fans are only the ones who actively disagree.. because their disagreement is the act of desiring something better.

    Someone who sits around passively accepting anything is by definition not engaged in that thing.. and someone who's not engaged is not a fan.

  • @canton-mike said:

    They are also NOT real fans. REAL Fans would not embarass, belittle, & make fun of their "alleged" team. That isn't support.

    Just one old guy's opinion.

    Mike

    What's wrong, snowflake? Do you need a safe space where your weak mind can somehow remain sheltered from all those mean, mean people who disagree with you?

    Suck it up, buttercup.

    Real fans are only the ones who actively disagree.. because their disagreement is the act of desiring something better.

    Someone who sits around passively accepting anything is by definition not engaged in that thing.. and someone who's not engaged is not a fan.

    @unsympathetic said:

    What's wrong, snowflake? Do you need a safe space where your weak mind can somehow remain sheltered from all those mean, mean people who disagree with you?

    Suck it up, buttercup.

    Real fans are only the ones who actively disagree.. because their disagreement is the act of desiring something better.

    Someone who sits around passively accepting anything is by definition not engaged in that thing.. and someone who's not engaged is not a fan.

    I simply stated my opinion, to which I am entitled. Name calling is neither called for nor necessary. Have a good day.

    Mike

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Any my opinion is that a REAL team wouldn't embarrass, humiliate, and make fans suffer for almost two decades of being the worst run franchise in professional sports.

    Just a young guys opinion.

    So choose another team. The Browns will live without you.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    So choose another team. The Browns will live without you.

    Mike

    Oh save me. You old guys can't understand what I'm saying cause at least you mofos watched a good team. My whole existence has been nothing but watching the worst run organization in sports. 

    To say fans are in the wrong for using their voice to embarrass this team on a national stage is beyond stupid. It is about time actually. Its not about not being a fan, just stop.

  • @canton-mike said:

    So choose another team. The Browns will live without you.

    Mike

    Oh save me. You old guys can't understand what I'm saying cause at least you mofos watched a good team. My whole existence has been nothing but watching the worst run organization in sports. 

    To say fans are in the wrong for using their voice to embarrass this team on a national stage is beyond stupid. It is about time actually. Its not about not being a fan, just stop.

    @jrb12711 said:

    You old guys can't understand what I'm saying cause at least you mofos watched a good team

    Trust me... any comfort that lent has been long gone for a long time...

  • @jrb12711 said:

    You old guys can't understand what I'm saying cause at least you mofos watched a good team

    Trust me... any comfort that lent has been long gone for a long time...

    @tour2ma said:

    Trust me... any comfort that lent has been long gone for a long time...

    You damn kids get off my lawn!

    Wait.. you're older than me..

  • @canton-mike said:

    So choose another team. The Browns will live without you.

    Mike

    Oh save me. You old guys can't understand what I'm saying cause at least you mofos watched a good team. My whole existence has been nothing but watching the worst run organization in sports. 

    To say fans are in the wrong for using their voice to embarrass this team on a national stage is beyond stupid. It is about time actually. Its not about not being a fan, just stop.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Oh save me. You old guys can't understand what I'm saying cause at least you mofos watched a good team. My whole existence has been nothing but watching the worst run organization in sports. 

    To say fans are in the wrong for using their voice to embarrass this team on a national stage is beyond stupid. It is about time actually. Its not about not being a fan, just stop.

    Mofo? I don't believe I ever tapped your mom, but who knows for sure?

    Are you able to communicate intelligently, without name calling? Please try. Thank you.

    I understand your frustration. We just disagree with how it's presented & that's ok.

    Mike

  • @tour2ma said:

    Trust me... any comfort that lent has been long gone for a long time...

    You damn kids get off my lawn!

    Wait.. you're older than me..

    @unsympathetic said:

    Wait.. you're older than me most.

    FIFY

  • @unsympathetic said:

    What's wrong, snowflake? Do you need a safe space where your weak mind can somehow remain sheltered from all those mean, mean people who disagree with you?

    Suck it up, buttercup.

    Real fans are only the ones who actively disagree.. because their disagreement is the act of desiring something better.

    Someone who sits around passively accepting anything is by definition not engaged in that thing.. and someone who's not engaged is not a fan.

    I simply stated my opinion, to which I am entitled. Name calling is neither called for nor necessary. Have a good day.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    I simply stated my opinion, to which I am entitled. Name calling is neither called for nor necessary. Have a good day.

    Mike

    Me and Mike are both season ticket holders- and we're on opposite sides of the fence when it comes to the parade...   

  • @canton-mike said:

    I simply stated my opinion, to which I am entitled. Name calling is neither called for nor necessary. Have a good day.

    Mike

    Me and Mike are both season ticket holders- and we're on opposite sides of the fence when it comes to the parade...   

    @hoorta said:

    Me and Mike are both season ticket holders- and we're on opposite sides of the fence when it comes to the parade...   

    So that's why you call Mike all those names? 😮

  • @hoorta said:

    Me and Mike are both season ticket holders- and we're on opposite sides of the fence when it comes to the parade...   

    So that's why you call Mike all those names? 😮

    @tour2ma said:

    So that's why you call Mike all those names? 😮

    ? Can't recall ever calling Mike any names..  Though this image from the parade pretty much sums up how I feel sometimes.  😁

    Image result for perfect season parade images

  • @tour2ma said:

    So that's why you call Mike all those names? 😮

    ? Can't recall ever calling Mike any names..  Though this image from the parade pretty much sums up how I feel sometimes.  😁

    Image result for perfect season parade images

    @hoorta said:

    ? Can't recall ever calling Mike any names..  Though this image from the parade pretty much sums up how I feel sometimes.  😁

    Image result for perfect season parade images

    Oh come on Larry. You have called me "Mike" on several occasions!  😉

    Mike

  • You folks notice how quickly Stosh landed with another team? Not!

     He sucked big time!!!!! 

     If there was the least inkling of talent, another team would have made him a offer.  He destroyed the Jags and made the Browns worse. Just a horrible GM with a record 1-31 record.

  • You folks notice how quickly Stosh landed with another team? Not!

     He sucked big time!!!!! 

     If there was the least inkling of talent, another team would have made him a offer.  He destroyed the Jags and made the Browns worse. Just a horrible GM with a record 1-31 record.

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    You folks notice how quickly Stosh landed with another team? Not!

     He sucked big time!!!!! 

     If there was the least inkling of talent, another team would have made him a offer.  He destroyed the Jags and made the Browns worse. Just a horrible GM with a record 1-31 record.

    If he gets a job it will not be in player selection.....but in like cap management or finance or sales.