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It's confirmed ... Sashi Sucked

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  • @tour2ma said:

    Trust me... any comfort that lent has been long gone for a long time...

    You damn kids get off my lawn!

    Wait.. you're older than me..

    @unsympathetic said:

    Wait.. you're older than me most.

    FIFY

  • @unsympathetic said:

    What's wrong, snowflake? Do you need a safe space where your weak mind can somehow remain sheltered from all those mean, mean people who disagree with you?

    Suck it up, buttercup.

    Real fans are only the ones who actively disagree.. because their disagreement is the act of desiring something better.

    Someone who sits around passively accepting anything is by definition not engaged in that thing.. and someone who's not engaged is not a fan.

    I simply stated my opinion, to which I am entitled. Name calling is neither called for nor necessary. Have a good day.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    I simply stated my opinion, to which I am entitled. Name calling is neither called for nor necessary. Have a good day.

    Mike

    Me and Mike are both season ticket holders- and we're on opposite sides of the fence when it comes to the parade...   

  • @canton-mike said:

    I simply stated my opinion, to which I am entitled. Name calling is neither called for nor necessary. Have a good day.

    Mike

    Me and Mike are both season ticket holders- and we're on opposite sides of the fence when it comes to the parade...   

    @hoorta said:

    Me and Mike are both season ticket holders- and we're on opposite sides of the fence when it comes to the parade...   

    So that's why you call Mike all those names? 😮

  • @hoorta said:

    Me and Mike are both season ticket holders- and we're on opposite sides of the fence when it comes to the parade...   

    So that's why you call Mike all those names? 😮

    @tour2ma said:

    So that's why you call Mike all those names? 😮

    ? Can't recall ever calling Mike any names..  Though this image from the parade pretty much sums up how I feel sometimes.  😁

    Image result for perfect season parade images

  • @tour2ma said:

    So that's why you call Mike all those names? 😮

    ? Can't recall ever calling Mike any names..  Though this image from the parade pretty much sums up how I feel sometimes.  😁

    Image result for perfect season parade images

    @hoorta said:

    ? Can't recall ever calling Mike any names..  Though this image from the parade pretty much sums up how I feel sometimes.  😁

    Image result for perfect season parade images

    Oh come on Larry. You have called me "Mike" on several occasions!  😉

    Mike

  • You folks notice how quickly Stosh landed with another team? Not!

     He sucked big time!!!!! 

     If there was the least inkling of talent, another team would have made him a offer.  He destroyed the Jags and made the Browns worse. Just a horrible GM with a record 1-31 record.

  • You folks notice how quickly Stosh landed with another team? Not!

     He sucked big time!!!!! 

     If there was the least inkling of talent, another team would have made him a offer.  He destroyed the Jags and made the Browns worse. Just a horrible GM with a record 1-31 record.

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    You folks notice how quickly Stosh landed with another team? Not!

     He sucked big time!!!!! 

     If there was the least inkling of talent, another team would have made him a offer.  He destroyed the Jags and made the Browns worse. Just a horrible GM with a record 1-31 record.

    If he gets a job it will not be in player selection.....but in like cap management or finance or sales.  

  • Probably because he's never been a "player selector."

  • Probably because he's never been a "player selector."

    @tour2ma said:

    Probably because he's never been a "player selector."

    Right.....but he did have final say on who was taken..or not....and on the trade decisions that were made. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Probably because he's never been a "player selector."

    Right.....but he did have final say on who was taken..or not....and on the trade decisions that were made. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Right.....but he did have final say on who was taken..or not....and on the trade decisions that were made. 

    Technically true, but I would be shocked and amazed if he ever made a move in the absence of genuine consensus in the FO.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Right.....but he did have final say on who was taken..or not....and on the trade decisions that were made. 

    Technically true, but I would be shocked and amazed if he ever made a move in the absence of genuine consensus in the FO.

    @tour2ma said:

    Technically true, but I would be shocked and amazed if he ever made a move in the absence of genuine consensus in the FO.

    Well.....consensus is fine...if it can be reached.  But what if it cannot...what if there was  as you say an absence of consensus?    Someone has to take the GW Bush role and become "The Decider".  That was Sashi's role, was it not?   I doubt that there was complete consensus on some of those trade downs.

    I mean, the other alternative could have been that they reached the consensus the way the German High Command reached consensus:  "This is what you want Mein Fuhrer?  Yes, we all agree with you..of course.  Seig Heil".    But no....I don't think it was quite in that manner that consensus was reached (maybe in some organizations:  Patriots with BB, Cowboys with JJ).  

    So, Sachi became the decider.

  • Sashi is still sending Dorsey emails ......

    Image result for analytics out of the window

  • @the-gipper said:

    Right.....but he did have final say on who was taken..or not....and on the trade decisions that were made. 

    Technically true, but I would be shocked and amazed if he ever made a move in the absence of genuine consensus in the FO.

    @tour2ma said:

    Technically true, but I would be shocked and amazed if he ever made a move in the absence of genuine consensus in the FO.

    But,but, but he had jimmah's ear..lol

  • @tour2ma said:

    Technically true, but I would be shocked and amazed if he ever made a move in the absence of genuine consensus in the FO.

    Well.....consensus is fine...if it can be reached.  But what if it cannot...what if there was  as you say an absence of consensus?    Someone has to take the GW Bush role and become "The Decider".  That was Sashi's role, was it not?   I doubt that there was complete consensus on some of those trade downs.

    I mean, the other alternative could have been that they reached the consensus the way the German High Command reached consensus:  "This is what you want Mein Fuhrer?  Yes, we all agree with you..of course.  Seig Heil".    But no....I don't think it was quite in that manner that consensus was reached (maybe in some organizations:  Patriots with BB, Cowboys with JJ).  

    So, Sachi became the decider.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well.....consensus is fine...if it can be reached.  But what if it cannot...what if there was  as you say an absence of consensus?    Someone has to take the GW Bush role and become "The Decider".  That was Sashi's role, was it not?   I doubt that there was complete consensus on some of those trade downs.

    I mean, the other alternative could have been that they reached the consensus the way the German High Command reached consensus:  "This is what you want Mein Fuhrer?  Yes, we all agree with you..of course.  Seig Heil".    But no....I don't think it was quite in that manner that consensus was reached (maybe in some organizations:  Patriots with BB, Cowboys with JJ).  

    So, Sachi became the decider.

    Nope... Either you arrive at a consensus and act upon it in unison, or you do not and move on.

    Consensus means all vested parties at minimum come to live with the decision of the group, not that all have to embrace it equally. It is a coercion-free process driven by the power of the idea, not whose idea it is. There is no other route to consensus.

    Sashi facilitated. His only decision was when it was time to move on from an impasse to the next idea.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well.....consensus is fine...if it can be reached.  But what if it cannot...what if there was  as you say an absence of consensus?    Someone has to take the GW Bush role and become "The Decider".  That was Sashi's role, was it not?   I doubt that there was complete consensus on some of those trade downs.

    I mean, the other alternative could have been that they reached the consensus the way the German High Command reached consensus:  "This is what you want Mein Fuhrer?  Yes, we all agree with you..of course.  Seig Heil".    But no....I don't think it was quite in that manner that consensus was reached (maybe in some organizations:  Patriots with BB, Cowboys with JJ).  

    So, Sachi became the decider.

    Nope... Either you arrive at a consensus and act upon it in unison, or you do not and move on.

    Consensus means all vested parties at minimum come to live with the decision of the group, not that all have to embrace it equally. It is a coercion-free process driven by the power of the idea, not whose idea it is. There is no other route to consensus.

    Sashi facilitated. His only decision was when it was time to move on from an impasse to the next idea.

    @tour2ma said:

    Nope... Either you arrive at a consensus and act upon it in unison, or you do not and move on.

    Consensus means all vested parties at minimum come to live with the decision of the group, not that all have to embrace it equally. It is a coercion-free process driven by the power of the idea, not whose idea it is. There is no other route to consensus.

    Sashi facilitated. His only decision was when it was time to move on from an impasse to the next idea.

    Well....if Sachi was not a strong enough personality to make a decision without a consensus.....if all he ever did was to  "move on"  to consider something else when a tough decision has to be made, we are indeed better off without him. 

    I have sat on enough political and charitable boards to know that, yes  you try as hard as you can for consensus, but if there is a minority of dissenting views.....and if it is the job of the top executive to move on a matter....you do so regardless of the dissent...or a lack of complete consensus.  

  • Remember back when ...

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  • @tour2ma said:

    Nope... Either you arrive at a consensus and act upon it in unison, or you do not and move on.

    Consensus means all vested parties at minimum come to live with the decision of the group, not that all have to embrace it equally. It is a coercion-free process driven by the power of the idea, not whose idea it is. There is no other route to consensus.

    Sashi facilitated. His only decision was when it was time to move on from an impasse to the next idea.

    Well....if Sachi was not a strong enough personality to make a decision without a consensus.....if all he ever did was to  "move on"  to consider something else when a tough decision has to be made, we are indeed better off without him. 

    I have sat on enough political and charitable boards to know that, yes  you try as hard as you can for consensus, but if there is a minority of dissenting views.....and if it is the job of the top executive to move on a matter....you do so regardless of the dissent...or a lack of complete consensus.  

    @the-gipper said:

    Well....if Sachi was not a strong enough personality to make a decision without a consensus.....if all he ever did was to  "move on"  to consider something else when a tough decision has to be made, we are indeed better off without him. 

    I have sat on enough political and charitable boards to know that, yes  you try as hard as you can for consensus, but if there is a minority of dissenting views.....and if it is the job of the top executive to move on a matter....you do so regardless of the dissent...or a lack of complete consensus.  

    My condolences to the other board members...

    Clearly you are incapable of learning.

  • Remember back when ...

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    @darren15 said:

    Remember back when ...

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    Jezzzzz how did brain-trust become a self contained oxymoron? 😛😛

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well....if Sachi was not a strong enough personality to make a decision without a consensus.....if all he ever did was to  "move on"  to consider something else when a tough decision has to be made, we are indeed better off without him. 

    I have sat on enough political and charitable boards to know that, yes  you try as hard as you can for consensus, but if there is a minority of dissenting views.....and if it is the job of the top executive to move on a matter....you do so regardless of the dissent...or a lack of complete consensus.  

    My condolences to the other board members...

    Clearly you are incapable of learning.

    @tour2ma said:

    My condolences to the other board members...

    Clearly you are incapable of learning.

    Translation:   I am Shmucking right on.  And you cannot handle it...because you had your head stuck so far up Sachi's butt that you were unable or unwilling to see his failures. 

    Bottom line:  consensus building is all fine well and good.   Leadership requires decision making when there there is no consensus. 

    Hell...I have all kinds of plaques on my walls because I had to engage in both:  consensus building and decision making.  I have likely forgotten more than you have ever learned about the subject.