Mason Rudolph
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Ben Roethlisberger's tantrum only validates Steelers' Mason Rudolph pick
Sports NOW SPORTING NEWS — [email protected] (VINNIE IYER)
When Ben Roethlisberger got his first chance to publicly discuss the Steelers' draft selection of his potential successor in Mason Rudolph, the Pittsburgh starting QB made it clear he wasn't a fan of the pick.
"I was surprised when they took a quarterback because I thought that, maybe in the third round, you know you can get some really good football players that can help this team now,” Roethlisberger said during an interview on Pittsburgh's 93.7 The Fan, also suggesting the pick felt like an affront to his commitment to playing for the Steelers at age 36. "I think they believed me. Once they drafted a quarterback in the third, I wasn't sure if they believed me or not."
Although there is some rationale to Roethlisberger's initial emotions, the Steelers made the right move for the better of both the team's future and its Hall of Fame quarterback's present.
Rudolph will help the Steelers win immediately, and Roethlisberger with his words proved why. Rudolph might not be of help on the field as long as Big Ben is healthy and active, but the rookie's presence already has lit an extra fire under Roethlisberger. Pittsburgh now hopes the veteran's big words in May will turn into bigger actions come September.
The situation should sound familiar. In 2013, a 36-year-old Tom Brady struggled through one of his shakiest seasons as the Patriots' starter as they fell short of the Super Bowl. New England then drafted Jimmy Garoppolo in the second round of the 2014 NFL Draft. After a shaky start to the 2014 season, Brady was rejuvenated all the way through a victory in the Super Bowl for his then-elusive fourth ring.
In a more recent example, Alex Smith in 2017 saw the Chiefs draft Patrick Mahomes in the first round after the veteran had led them to a 12-4 record and a division title. Smith responded with his best NFL season at age 33.
NFL DRAFT GRADES:
How Steelers fared with 2018 picksThe Steelers are coming off four consecutive playoff berths and four consecutive playoff disappointments. Since a prolific 2013 season, Roethlisberger has been inconsistent and inefficient. Although he has put up a few monster games, some low points — like poor road play and last year's regular-season game against the Jaguars — have damaged either his team's postseason standing or its ultimate fate.
With Roethlisberger's play leveling off late in his career, and given his own hints at retirement, the Steelers can't be blamed for accelerating their plans of lining up a replacement.
Part of Roethlisberger's frustration over the pick is the fact that the Steelers used a fourth-rounder on a QB last year, too, in Joshua Dobbs. When Roethlisberger says the team should have thought more about sitting on their depth chart of Dobbs and backup Landry Jones, he means he doesn't want to worry about an actual potential heir apparent such as Rudolph........CONTINUED IN LINK........
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For a guy that said that he might want to retire a while back, the selection of Mason Rudolph by the Steeler team seem to have him gripping......and griping over it:
https://nypost.com/2018/05/02/roethlisberger-doesnt-want-rudolph-to-take-over-anytime-soon/
Damn right he was griping. He knows Rudolph is something special. He couldn't have cared less when Dobbs was drafted.
Damn right he was griping. He knows Rudolph is something special. He couldn't have cared less when Dobbs was drafted.
Well....that certainly remains to be seen. Let's put it this way.....I thought he was on a par with the other 5 guys taken ahead of him. But others here did not believe that.....and it seems on the surface anyway that their views held sway with ALL the front offices of the teams of the NFL. He went late third round. If any single one of those teams thought he was something special.....he would not have lasted nearly as long. But sure, third rounders can become "special" Joe Montana, Russell Wilson, etc. But, as I said, BR is griping and moaning about the choice, a choice that his own sorry a$$ kind of forced the Steelers to take with all of his retirement talk. The thing is, BR is the second biggest liar in the country, and is always the drama queen. So he forces the Steelers to look toward their future with his retirement talk, but when they do, he complains that they could have gotten someone in round 3 to help them now. Well...when he buys the team, or runs the team, or when he quits lying to the team and playing the drama queen, then perhaps he can make the decisions for the team.....or at least be honest with them
Now he says he wants to play another 3-5 years? What happened to all the "I'm not sure I can take it anymore?" Taking a guy in the third round fires up his competitive juices?
I am kinda glad he continues to want to play. That means that it will be sweet when he gets crushed like a pumpkin on a porch at Halloween.
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Ben be trippin'...
Stirs up sh!t with talk of retiring...
... so the Steelers hedge with a late, Day 2, QB pick...
... then Ben rips his FO for misspending the pick.
Maybe he should go for a helmetless motorcycle ride to clear his head...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Why is this even on the browns board? Get rid if this crap
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Why is this even on the browns board? Get rid if this crap
Because the foibles of the Browns divisional rivals is always a subject for this board. That is only natural. Especially if those rivals have players gripping and griping.
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Why is this even on the browns board? Get rid if this crap
Because it's the CLEVELAND BROWNS biggest and oldest AFCN rival and enemy that they play twice a year.
Besides it's a sports board.
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Ben Roethlisberger's tantrum only validates Steelers' Mason Rudolph pick
Sports NOW SPORTING NEWS — [email protected] (VINNIE IYER)
When Ben Roethlisberger got his first chance to publicly discuss the Steelers' draft selection of his potential successor in Mason Rudolph, the Pittsburgh starting QB made it clear he wasn't a fan of the pick.
"I was surprised when they took a quarterback because I thought that, maybe in the third round, you know you can get some really good football players that can help this team now,” Roethlisberger said during an interview on Pittsburgh's 93.7 The Fan, also suggesting the pick felt like an affront to his commitment to playing for the Steelers at age 36. "I think they believed me. Once they drafted a quarterback in the third, I wasn't sure if they believed me or not."
Although there is some rationale to Roethlisberger's initial emotions, the Steelers made the right move for the better of both the team's future and its Hall of Fame quarterback's present.
Rudolph will help the Steelers win immediately, and Roethlisberger with his words proved why. Rudolph might not be of help on the field as long as Big Ben is healthy and active, but the rookie's presence already has lit an extra fire under Roethlisberger. Pittsburgh now hopes the veteran's big words in May will turn into bigger actions come September.
The situation should sound familiar. In 2013, a 36-year-old Tom Brady struggled through one of his shakiest seasons as the Patriots' starter as they fell short of the Super Bowl. New England then drafted Jimmy Garoppolo in the second round of the 2014 NFL Draft. After a shaky start to the 2014 season, Brady was rejuvenated all the way through a victory in the Super Bowl for his then-elusive fourth ring.
In a more recent example, Alex Smith in 2017 saw the Chiefs draft Patrick Mahomes in the first round after the veteran had led them to a 12-4 record and a division title. Smith responded with his best NFL season at age 33.
NFL DRAFT GRADES:
How Steelers fared with 2018 picksThe Steelers are coming off four consecutive playoff berths and four consecutive playoff disappointments. Since a prolific 2013 season, Roethlisberger has been inconsistent and inefficient. Although he has put up a few monster games, some low points — like poor road play and last year's regular-season game against the Jaguars — have damaged either his team's postseason standing or its ultimate fate.
With Roethlisberger's play leveling off late in his career, and given his own hints at retirement, the Steelers can't be blamed for accelerating their plans of lining up a replacement.
Part of Roethlisberger's frustration over the pick is the fact that the Steelers used a fourth-rounder on a QB last year, too, in Joshua Dobbs. When Roethlisberger says the team should have thought more about sitting on their depth chart of Dobbs and backup Landry Jones, he means he doesn't want to worry about an actual potential heir apparent such as Rudolph........CONTINUED IN LINK........
Part of Roethlisberger's frustration over the pick is the fact that the Steelers used a fourth-rounder on a QB last year, too, in Joshua Dobbs. When Roethlisberger says the team should have thought more about sitting on their depth chart of Dobbs and backup Landry Jones, he means he doesn't want to worry about an actual potential heir apparent such as Rudolph...
So Ben you have a better idea how to use a third round pick? Or you thinking of playing until you're 40 like Brady?
Well....that certainly remains to be seen. Let's put it this way.....I thought he was on a par with the other 5 guys taken ahead of him. But others here did not believe that.....and it seems on the surface anyway that their views held sway with ALL the front offices of the teams of the NFL. He went late third round. If any single one of those teams thought he was something special.....he would not have lasted nearly as long. But sure, third rounders can become "special" Joe Montana, Russell Wilson, etc. But, as I said, BR is griping and moaning about the choice, a choice that his own sorry a$$ kind of forced the Steelers to take with all of his retirement talk. The thing is, BR is the second biggest liar in the country, and is always the drama queen. So he forces the Steelers to look toward their future with his retirement talk, but when they do, he complains that they could have gotten someone in round 3 to help them now. Well...when he buys the team, or runs the team, or when he quits lying to the team and playing the drama queen, then perhaps he can make the decisions for the team.....or at least be honest with them
Now he says he wants to play another 3-5 years? What happened to all the "I'm not sure I can take it anymore?" Taking a guy in the third round fires up his competitive juices?
I am kinda glad he continues to want to play. That means that it will be sweet when he gets crushed like a pumpkin on a porch at Halloween.
As one of the talking heads nailed it- passive aggressive behavior.
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Part of Roethlisberger's frustration over the pick is the fact that the Steelers used a fourth-rounder on a QB last year, too, in Joshua Dobbs. When Roethlisberger says the team should have thought more about sitting on their depth chart of Dobbs and backup Landry Jones, he means he doesn't want to worry about an actual potential heir apparent such as Rudolph...
So Ben you have a better idea how to use a third round pick? Or you thinking of playing until you're 40 like Brady?
Well....that certainly remains to be seen. Let's put it this way.....I thought he was on a par with the other 5 guys taken ahead of him. But others here did not believe that.....and it seems on the surface anyway that their views held sway with ALL the front offices of the teams of the NFL. He went late third round. If any single one of those teams thought he was something special.....he would not have lasted nearly as long. But sure, third rounders can become "special" Joe Montana, Russell Wilson, etc. But, as I said, BR is griping and moaning about the choice, a choice that his own sorry a$$ kind of forced the Steelers to take with all of his retirement talk. The thing is, BR is the second biggest liar in the country, and is always the drama queen. So he forces the Steelers to look toward their future with his retirement talk, but when they do, he complains that they could have gotten someone in round 3 to help them now. Well...when he buys the team, or runs the team, or when he quits lying to the team and playing the drama queen, then perhaps he can make the decisions for the team.....or at least be honest with them
Now he says he wants to play another 3-5 years? What happened to all the "I'm not sure I can take it anymore?" Taking a guy in the third round fires up his competitive juices?
I am kinda glad he continues to want to play. That means that it will be sweet when he gets crushed like a pumpkin on a porch at Halloween.
As one of the talking heads nailed it- passive aggressive behavior.
So Ben you have a better idea how to use a third round pick? Or you thinking of playing until you're 40 like Brady?
As one of the talking heads nailed it- passive aggressive behavior.
I am not sure it is passive-aggressive. Maybe. I just know that the guys nickname should be like Histrionics R US.
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Ben be trippin'...
Stirs up sh!t with talk of retiring...
... so the Steelers hedge with a late, Day 2, QB pick...
... then Ben rips his FO for misspending the pick.
Maybe he should go for a helmetless motorcycle ride to clear his head...
Maybe he should go for a helmetless motorcycle ride to clear his head...
I'm not saying the Steelers are lucky, but I'm still amazed by the incredible luck of getting 14 years and counting out of a dullard who could have been either dead or paralyzed from that motorcycle accident, or in prison with Bill Cosby.
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Why is this even on the browns board? Get rid if this crap
Don't be intimidated. Both Steeler and Bengals boards generate enemy related topics.
The bungles have an AFCN sub forum called "AFC North Chatter".
Perhaps an idea for this board for those like you that want to maintain their safe space.
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Why is this even on the browns board? Get rid if this crap
Don't be intimidated. Both Steeler and Bengals boards generate enemy related topics.
The bungles have an AFCN sub forum called "AFC North Chatter".
Perhaps an idea for this board for those like you that want to maintain their safe space.
Don't be intimidated. Both Steeler and Bengals boards generate enemy related topics.
The bungles have an AFCN sub forum called "AFC North Chatter".
Perhaps an idea for this board for those like you that want to maintain their safe space.
I actually enjoy talking about the other AFC North teams, and with their fans as long as it is a honest-to-dog convo, not a troll session.
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Don't be intimidated. Both Steeler and Bengals boards generate enemy related topics.
The bungles have an AFCN sub forum called "AFC North Chatter".
Perhaps an idea for this board for those like you that want to maintain their safe space.
I actually enjoy talking about the other AFC North teams, and with their fans as long as it is a honest-to-dog convo, not a troll session.
I actually enjoy talking about the other AFC North teams, and with their fans as long as it is a honest-to-dog convo, not a troll session.
steelrz fans all suk
How's that Dutch? We're back in that sports dead zone again unless you like hoops & hockey well except for the INDIANS which I watch all/part of every game.....no game tonight.
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@stinkhole said:
Because a Steeler as the winningest QB in First Energy stadium really blows.
The rapist is good at football.
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@stinkhole said:
Because a Steeler as the winningest QB in First Energy stadium really blows.
The rapist is good at football.
The rapist is good at football.
Longevity.
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A really interesting article comparing Rudolph, Mayflower, Arnold, etc. as it pertains to 3rd down efficiency....from 3rd and short to 3rd and long.
Holy Toledo! Rudolph is a TD machine on 3rd down!...28!!!
Then your bubble bursts when you scroll down and see freakin Landry Jones blowing everyone away at 41.
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2018/05/steelers-stats-study-3rd-down-and-mason-rudolph/
. CAREER COLLEGE 3RD DOWN PASSING STATS
Mason Rudolph DISTANCE ATT COMP COMP% YDS YPA YPC TD INT RATE 1ST 1ST%A 1ST%C 15+ 25+ 3rd Total 338 191 56.5% 2920 8.6 15.3 28 7 152.3 145 42.9% 75.9% 72 31 1-3 To Go 46 34 73.9% 433 9.4 12.7 6 0 196.0 28 60.9% 82.4% 9 5 4-6 To Go 81 44 54.3% 699 8.6 15.9 8 1 156.9 38 46.9% 86.4% 15 8 7-9 To Go 85 49 57.6% 673 7.9 13.7 6 1 145.1 37 43.5% 75.5% 18 5 10+ To Go 126 64 50.8% 1115 8.8 17.4 8 5 138.1 42 33.3% 65.6% 30 13 Baker Mayfield DISTANCE ATT COMP COMP% YDS YPA YPC TD INT RATE 1ST 1ST%A 1ST%C 15+ 25+ 3rd Total 320 202 63.1% 2617 8.2 13.0 18 8 145.4 155 48.4% 76.7% 60 21 1-3 To Go 56 39 69.6% 363 6.5 9.3 3 0 141.8 36 64.3% 92.3% 6 1 4-6 To Go 98 66 67.3% 777 7.9 11.8 8 0 160.9 56 57.1% 84.8% 16 5 7-9 To Go 74 45 60.8% 767 10.4 17.0 6 3 166.5 36 48.6% 80.0% 19 9 10+ To Go 92 52 56.5% 710 7.7 13.7 1 5 114.1 27 29.3% 51.9% 19 6 Sam Darnold DISTANCE ATT COMP COMP% YDS YPA YPC TD INT RATE 1ST 1ST%A 1ST%C 15+ 25+ 3rd Total 206 123 59.7% 1539 7.5 12.5 12 5 136.8 90 43.7% 73.2% 39 12 1-3 To Go 28 17 60.7% 136 4.9 8.0 3 1 129.7 15 53.6% 88.2% 1 0 4-6 To Go 65 42 64.6% 553 8.5 13.2 3 0 151.3 33 50.8% 78.6% 12 6 7-9 To Go 49 26 53.1% 359 7.3 13.8 2 2 119.9 23 46.9% 88.5% 8 3 10+ To Go 64 38 59.4% 491 7.7 12.9 4 2 138.2 19 29.7% 50.0% 18 3 Josh Rosen DISTANCE ATT COMP COMP% YDS YPA YPC TD INT RATE 1ST 1ST%A 1ST%C 15+ 25+ 3rd Total 291 157 54.0% 2297 7.9 14.6 12 8 128.4 114 39.2% 72.6% 63 23 1-3 To Go 44 26 59.1% 413 9.4 15.9 2 1 148.4 24 54.5% 92.3% 8 5 4-6 To Go 90 44 48.9% 553 6.1 12.6 6 3 115.8 38 42.2% 86.4% 15 4 7-9 To Go 58 34 58.6% 429 7.4 12.6 2 0 132.1 20 34.5% 58.8% 12 4 10+ To Go 99 53 53.5% 902 9.1 17.0 2 4 128.7 32 32.3% 60.4% 28 10 Josh Allen DISTANCE ATT COMP COMP% YDS YPA YPC TD INT RATE 1ST 1ST%A 1ST%C 15+ 25+ 3rd Total 180 98 54.4% 1235 6.9 12.6 10 4 126.0 72 40.0% 73.5% 28 10 1-3 To Go 14 10 71.4% 115 8.2 11.5 0 0 140.4 8 57.1% 80.0% 3 1 4-6 To Go 61 34 55.7% 349 5.7 10.3 5 2 124.3 29 47.5% 85.3% 5 2 7-9 To Go 52 26 50.0% 264 5.1 10.2 2 2 97.6 16 30.8% 61.5% 5 1 10+ To Go 53 28 52.8% 507 9.6 18.1 3 0 151.9 19 35.8% 67.9% 15 6 Lamar Jackson DISTANCE ATT COMP COMP% YDS YPA YPC TD INT RATE 1ST 1ST%A 1ST%C 15+ 25+ 3rd Total 251 128 51.0% 1868 7.4 14.6 13 9 123.4 97 38.6% 75.8% 52 12 1-3 To Go 28 14 50.0% 269 9.6 19.2 1 1 135.3 14 50.0% 100.0% 7 3 4-6 To Go 63 38 60.3% 464 7.4 12.2 2 1 129.5 31 49.2% 81.6% 9 2 7-9 To Go 78 38 48.7% 527 6.8 13.9 8 4 129.1 28 35.9% 73.7% 14 4 10+ To Go 82 38 46.3% 608 7.4 16.0 2 3 109.4 24 29.3% 63.2% 22 3 Joshua Dobbs DISTANCE ATT COMP COMP% YDS YPA YPC TD INT RATE 1ST 1ST%A 1ST%C 15+ 25+ 3rd Total 287 145 50.5% 1780 6.2 12.3 14 12 110.4 102 35.5% 70.3% 44 13 1-3 To Go 33 20 60.6% 177 5.4 8.9 2 2 113.5 18 54.5% 90.0% 4 0 4-6 To Go 86 51 59.3% 492 5.7 9.6 5 2 121.9 37 43.0% 72.5% 10 2 7-9 To Go 83 37 44.6% 598 7.2 16.2 5 4 115.3 28 33.7% 75.7% 15 5 10+ To Go 85 37 43.5% 513 6.0 13.9 2 4 92.6 19 22.4% 51.4% 15 6 Landry Jones DISTANCE ATT COMP COMP% YDS YPA YPC TD INT RATE 1ST 1ST%A 1ST%C 15+ 25+ 3rd Total 548 309 56.4% 4191 7.6 13.6 41 13 140.6 218 39.8% 70.6% 110 37 1-3 To Go 85 57 67.1% 603 7.1 10.6 8 2 153.0 49 57.6% 86.0% 14 3 4-6 To Go 135 79 58.5% 906 6.7 11.5 9 6 128.0 59 43.7% 74.7% 22 8 7-9 To Go 145 79 54.5% 1033 7.1 13.1 10 3 132.9 57 39.3% 72.2% 28 9 10+ To Go 183 94 51.4% 1649 9.0 17.5 14 2 150.1 53 29.0% 56.4% 46 17 -
Well....again, that is the Big 12 for you. Lots and lots of QBs come out of there with gaudy statistics, yet none of them have had much success in the pros.
So, it is a concern for both the Beaver and the brickbuilding caribou.....as to whether or not either of them can have success in the pros. Rudolph may just be a younger Landry. Mayfield may become a short version of Andy Dalton.
Who the hell knows at this point.
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Same things were said about Landry Jones and how Dobbs would develop blah blah blah. Rudolph will never be more than a fringe starter. I do not fear Mason Rudolph, in fact I hope you think he is the future, he is pedestrian.
No, they were not. I don't know how I feel about Rudolph. I certainly didn't believe we were going to draft a qb. However the steelers had a first round grade on him. They sure as hell didn't with Dobbs or Jones and no one, I repeat no one talked about Dobbs or Jones like they have talked about Rudolph.
No, they were not. I don't know how I feel about Rudolph. I certainly didn't believe we were going to draft a qb. However the steelers had a first round grade on him. They sure as hell didn't with Dobbs or Jones and no one, I repeat no one talked about Dobbs or Jones like they have talked about Rudolph.
If they had a 1st round grade on him why did they wait until the 3rd round to draft him? Typically most teams have around 15-20 players that have a 1st round grade. So I dont believe, no matter what they say, that they had a 1st round grade on him. I heard many Steelers fans high on Dobbs last year, that is until they saw him take the field in the pre-season. He was dreadful. Rudolph is the better talent coming out of college of the 3, but I heard many a Steelers fan high on Dobbs and he being the potential heir apparent. I think of a Rudolph as a better Landry.
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Ryan Mallett had a bad attitude didn't he?
WSS
Yes, sort of, but he cleaned it up after he was drafted.
There was some incident like pot, that made him drop into the 3rd round.
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The pressure really turned up on Ben and Tomlin now.
Super Bowl win this season or everything short of that is just failure.
Bens partially right. Its win now at all costs and quite frankly, Landry Jones played well when Ben was out last season.
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