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  • geez - he was a weirdo who wouldn't take no for an answer but she was never interested in the killer.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mom-slain-santa-fe-victim-believes-daughter-targeted-article-1.3999285

  • @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/05/20/there-has-been-an-uptick-in-active-shooter-incidents-experts-know-exactly-what-to-blame

    Sounds like a chicken and the egg thing.

    There are more shootings because there is more media coverage

    Or there is more media coverage because there are more shootings

  • Has this kid been thrown to a political group yet? (Outside of that terrible Photoshop earlier)

  • @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/05/20/there-has-been-an-uptick-in-active-shooter-incidents-experts-know-exactly-what-to-blame

    Sounds like a chicken and the egg thing.

    There are more shootings because there is more media coverage

    Or there is more media coverage because there are more shootings

    @mld-woody said:

    Sounds like a chicken and the egg thing.

    There are more shootings because there is more media coverage

    Or there is more media coverage because there are more shootings

    not to me - the one shooting...Columbine? got insane coverage all over our country.

    More likely - the msm is hand in hand, happily, with the left anti-Constitution, especially anti-2nd Amendment,

    because it's a political fight that would key their dominance and power/control over America.

    school murders have been happening since...1764.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

    Enoch Brown school massacre: Perhaps the earliest shooting to happen on school or college property, in what would become the United States, was the notorious Enoch Brown school massacre during the Pontiac's War. Four Delaware (Lenape) American Indians entered the schoolhouse near present-day Greencastle, Pennsylvania, and shot and killed schoolmaster Enoch Brown and nine children (reports vary). Only two children survived. However, this incident may only incidentally be considered a school "shooting" because only the teacher was shot, while the other nine victims were killed with melee weapons. [1][2]

    NOTE: "melee weapons".....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melee_weapon

  • back in 1965:

    August 1, 1966 Austin, Texas 17 31 University of Texas massacre: 25-year-old engineering student, Charles Whitman, got onto the observation deck at the University of Texas-Austin, from where he killed seventeen people and wounded thirty-one during a 96-minute shooting rampage. He had earlier murdered his wife and mother at their homes.[133][134][135] It was the deadliest shooting on a U.S. college campus until the Virginia Tech shooting in 2007.

    Seems that social media is a gigantic immediate "fame" effect on mentially disturbed murderers, and the msm

    is the icing on the cake.

    Of course, I suppose social media makes some mentally ill feel like the whole world is their enemy. or something like that.

  • Am I supposed to acknowledge something from 1764 as having any relevance today?

    Are you saying "liberals" are happy there was a school shooting? Though I guess you already made a similar insane claim in another thread that no one here would even back you up on.

  • Am I supposed to acknowledge something from 1764 as having any relevance today?

    Are you saying "liberals" are happy there was a school shooting? Though I guess you already made a similar insane claim in another thread that no one here would even back you up on.

    @mld-woody said:

    Am I supposed to acknowledge something from 1764 as having any relevance today?

    Are you saying "liberals" are happy there was a school shooting? Though I guess you already made a similar insane claim in another thread that no one here would even back you up on.

    Happy about it? Probably not exactly but at least encouraged by more violence because it gives them Steam with which to pursue their dream of a gun-free America. And I would imagine they are at least somewhat disappointed it wasn't an AR-15.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    Am I supposed to acknowledge something from 1764 as having any relevance today?

    Are you saying "liberals" are happy there was a school shooting? Though I guess you already made a similar insane claim in another thread that no one here would even back you up on.

    Happy about it? Probably not exactly but at least encouraged by more violence because it gives them Steam with which to pursue their dream of a gun-free America. And I would imagine they are at least somewhat disappointed it wasn't an AR-15.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Happy about it? Probably not exactly but at least encouraged by more violence because it gives them Steam with which to pursue their dream of a gun-free America. And I would imagine they are at least somewhat disappointed it wasn't an AR-15.

    WSS

    Hmm, I see. But still not going far enough out there to defend Cal's view

  • Am I supposed to acknowledge something from 1764 as having any relevance today?

    Are you saying "liberals" are happy there was a school shooting? Though I guess you already made a similar insane claim in another thread that no one here would even back you up on.

    @mld-woody said:

    Am I supposed to acknowledge something from 1764 as having any relevance today?

    Are you saying "liberals" are happy there was a school shooting? Though I guess you already made a similar insane claim in another thread that no one here would even back you up on.

     Well, I think you are, but it never works, so...

       That site references many school shootings of one form or another, from way, way back. The question is, why?

    because there are defenseless possible future victims there. That is why. And they used weapons other than guns back then.

    Other than guns happens today too. So, another question is, why? It isn't guns.

    Here is a great read. Read it, for once, woody.

    *********************************************************

    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/sorry-despite-gun-control-advocates-claims-u-s-isnt-the-worst-country-for-mass-shootings/

    "("But the U.S. has a population four times greater than Germany's and five times the U.K.'s, so on a per-capita basis the U.S. ranks low in comparison — actually, those two countries would have had a frequency of attacks 1.96 (Germany) and 2.46 (UK) times higher."

    Yes, the U.S. rate is still high, and nothing to be proud of. But it's not the highest in the developed world. Not by a long shot.

    Yet, some today propose banning rifles, in particular AR-15s, because they've been used in a number of mass killings. It's important to note however that, according to FBI crime data cited this week by the Daily Caller, deaths by knives in the U.S. outnumber deaths by rifles by five to 1: In 2016, 1,604 people were killed by knives and other cutting instruments, while 374 were killed by rifles.

    So is it not fair to ask: If we're banning rifles, why not knives, too?

    The point is, guns aren't the problem; deranged killers that grow up in broken families often without positive male role models in their lives are the problem. So are political and religious extremists, in particular Islamists. If these people didn't have guns, they would find some other means to do the job.

    Bombs are illegal in both the U.S. and Europe. Yet Europe loses far more people to bombings than the U.S. Doesn't that make them more violent?)"

  • Oh Shmuck of with that "read it for once" cowpoop Cal. Whenever I read your Sheet and pick it apart you respond with woodpecker nonsense. Why should I wastey time with a thoughtful rebuttal when I'm not going to get anything close in return? Not to mention you just Google phrases that support your argument and vomit the links back in here.

  • Btw, I gave a quick Google of the "research" group that link is referencing for it's claims. It's exactly what anyone on here with half a brain would expect. Same song and dance...

  • "Woodpecker nonsense" is that a thing?

    WSS

  • Oh Shmuck of with that "read it for once" cowpoop Cal. Whenever I read your Sheet and pick it apart you respond with woodpecker nonsense. Why should I wastey time with a thoughtful rebuttal when I'm not going to get anything close in return? Not to mention you just Google phrases that support your argument and vomit the links back in here.

    @mld-woody said:

    Oh Shmuck of with that "read it for once" cowpoop Cal. Whenever I read your Sheet and pick it apart you respond with woodpecker nonsense. Why should I wastey time with a thoughtful rebuttal when I'm not going to get anything close in return? Not to mention you just Google phrases that support your argument and vomit the links back in here.

    you are such a COWARD. LOL. Yellowbellied sapsucking woodpecker ?

    you didn't read it. and you nearly? NEVER respond with any kind of "thoughtful rebuttal".

    It isn't about rebuttal, asswhole woodypeckerhead - it's about an issue, and everyone else on the board knows how to discuss them intelligently in one manner or another.

    You just smart off. Just will never learn, will never admit you don't know your tailfeathers from your beak. Not good.

    Go watch Fox News, and your dirty little obamao-ites are being exposed as being MORe corrupt than I have been saying for a long time now.

       The few times you didn't make an butt of your cowardly self, I gave you "woody" and replied like I would to other people.

    but you are a woodpecker butt - too bad. Why are you even here? All you do is show off your ignorance of every single issue ever brought up.

        Have a nice birdpoop in your eye day, fool.😉

  • "Woodpecker nonsense" is that a thing?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    "Woodpecker nonsense" is that a thing?

    WSS

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  • Sigh

    The conclusion in that article comes from the Crime Prevention Research Center, which, like every other one of these you reference, is a right wing organization parading around as an academic one. 

    The founder, John Lott, is a economist and right wing persona that champions the pro gun movement. He's written pro gun books, is a columnist on Fox, and has been accused of taking funding from the NRA. He admitted to posing as one of his past students online to defend his own work and praise himself as a professor. Many have claimed he faked a survey to produce hus favorable data, a survey he can no longer produce the data from. He's claimed the CPRC had an article published in a perr reviewed journal that was in fact rejected. His own data disproves his claim Europe and the US have the same mass shooting rate. Actual experts in the field come up with numbers that show the US is much worse. There are disagreements for what he does and doesn't count as a mass shooting, which he defines carefully to get the best results. Etc etc etc

    So a right wing group, led by afake expert, that is repeatedly proven wrong by the actual academics and experts in the field. 

    Like I said, basically par for the course. 

  • Get help bro/mam,,, somewhere..

  • Sigh

    The conclusion in that article comes from the Crime Prevention Research Center, which, like every other one of these you reference, is a right wing organization parading around as an academic one. 

    The founder, John Lott, is a economist and right wing persona that champions the pro gun movement. He's written pro gun books, is a columnist on Fox, and has been accused of taking funding from the NRA. He admitted to posing as one of his past students online to defend his own work and praise himself as a professor. Many have claimed he faked a survey to produce hus favorable data, a survey he can no longer produce the data from. He's claimed the CPRC had an article published in a perr reviewed journal that was in fact rejected. His own data disproves his claim Europe and the US have the same mass shooting rate. Actual experts in the field come up with numbers that show the US is much worse. There are disagreements for what he does and doesn't count as a mass shooting, which he defines carefully to get the best results. Etc etc etc

    So a right wing group, led by afake expert, that is repeatedly proven wrong by the actual academics and experts in the field. 

    Like I said, basically par for the course. 

    @mld-woody said:

    Sigh

    The conclusion in that article comes from the Crime Prevention Research Center, which, like every other one of these you reference, is a right wing organization parading around as an academic one. 

    The founder, John Lott, is a economist and right wing persona that champions the pro gun movement. He's written pro gun books, is a columnist on Fox, and has been accused of taking funding from the NRA. He admitted to posing as one of his past students online to defend his own work and praise himself as a professor. Many have claimed he faked a survey to produce hus favorable data, a survey he can no longer produce the data from. He's claimed the CPRC had an article published in a perr reviewed journal that was in fact rejected. His own data disproves his claim Europe and the US have the same mass shooting rate. Actual experts in the field come up with numbers that show the US is much worse. There are disagreements for what he does and doesn't count as a mass shooting, which he defines carefully to get the best results. Etc etc etc

    So a right wing group, led by afake expert, that is repeatedly proven wrong by the actual academics and experts in the field. 

    Like I said, basically par for the course. 

    liar. right from the article:

    Yet, some today propose banning rifles, in particular AR-15s, because they've been used in a number of mass killings. It's important to note however that, according to FBI crime data cited this week by the Daily Caller, deaths by knives in the U.S. outnumber deaths by rifles by five to 1: In 2016, 1,604 people were killed by knives and other cutting instruments, while 374 were killed by rifles.

    According to the FBI, 1,604 people were killed by “knives and cutting instruments” and 374 were killed by “rifles” in 2016.

    ************************************

    right from the article/via the link:

    Yet, some today propose banning rifles, in particular AR-15s, because they've been used in a number of mass killings. It's important to note however that, according to FBI crime data cited this week by the Daily Caller, deaths by knives in the U.S. outnumber deaths by rifles by five to 1: In 2016, 1,604 people were killed by knives and other cutting instruments, while 374 were killed by rifles.

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  • @mld-woody said:

    Sounds like a chicken and the egg thing.

    There are more shootings because there is more media coverage

    Or there is more media coverage because there are more shootings

    not to me - the one shooting...Columbine? got insane coverage all over our country.

    More likely - the msm is hand in hand, happily, with the left anti-Constitution, especially anti-2nd Amendment,

    because it's a political fight that would key their dominance and power/control over America.

    school murders have been happening since...1764.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

    Enoch Brown school massacre: Perhaps the earliest shooting to happen on school or college property, in what would become the United States, was the notorious Enoch Brown school massacre during the Pontiac's War. Four Delaware (Lenape) American Indians entered the schoolhouse near present-day Greencastle, Pennsylvania, and shot and killed schoolmaster Enoch Brown and nine children (reports vary). Only two children survived. However, this incident may only incidentally be considered a school "shooting" because only the teacher was shot, while the other nine victims were killed with melee weapons. [1][2]

    NOTE: "melee weapons".....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melee_weapon

    @calfoxwc said:

    not to me - the one shooting...Columbine? got insane coverage all over our country.

    More likely - the msm is hand in hand, happily, with the left anti-Constitution, especially anti-2nd Amendment,

    because it's a political fight that would key their dominance and power/control over America.

    school murders have been happening since...1764.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

    Enoch Brown school massacre: Perhaps the earliest shooting to happen on school or college property, in what would become the United States, was the notorious Enoch Brown school massacre during the Pontiac's War. Four Delaware (Lenape) American Indians entered the schoolhouse near present-day Greencastle, Pennsylvania, and shot and killed schoolmaster Enoch Brown and nine children (reports vary). Only two children survived. However, this incident may only incidentally be considered a school "shooting" because only the teacher was shot, while the other nine victims were killed with melee weapons. [1][2]

    NOTE: "melee weapons".....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melee_weapon