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  • DieHardBrownsFan DieHardBrownsFanD Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Collaborator Posting Machine First Post One Month Later Week One Done One Year In
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    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    Good job NFL.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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      JAFBFJ JAFBF wrote on last edited by
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      FWIW.

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      https://www.dailywire.com/news/31088/nfl-owners-are-fing-terrified-trump-report-says-joseph-curl

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        They don't care about Trump and you know it. The NFL owners carry about the majority of their customers who probably see this protest as an insult to not only the flag but the national anthem in the United States of America.

        Those are the guys that buy the tickets the jerseys watch the TV broadcasts listen to the radio shows etc etc etc and it's from them that the billions of dollars roll in to make these semi-literate players wealthy and give them the idea that they are all powerful. 

        Furthermore the players don't even care about the protests they're just being arseholes because they hate the president.

        IMO

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          They don't care about Trump and you know it. The NFL owners carry about the majority of their customers who probably see this protest as an insult to not only the flag but the national anthem in the United States of America.

          Those are the guys that buy the tickets the jerseys watch the TV broadcasts listen to the radio shows etc etc etc and it's from them that the billions of dollars roll in to make these semi-literate players wealthy and give them the idea that they are all powerful. 

          Furthermore the players don't even care about the protests they're just being arseholes because they hate the president.

          IMO

          WSS

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          @westside-steve said:

          Furthermore the players don't even care about the protests they're just being arseholes because they hate the president.

          IMO

          WSS

          Citation Needed

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            @westside-steve said:

            Furthermore the players don't even care about the protests they're just being arseholes because they hate the president.

            IMO

            WSS

            Citation Needed

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            StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by StinkHole
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            @mld-woody said:

            Citation Needed

            Stuart

            Look it up yourself lazy asss libtard.

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              @mld-woody said:

              Citation Needed

              Stuart

              Look it up yourself lazy asss libtard.

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              @stinkhole said:

              Stuart

              Look it up yourself lazy asss libtard.

              Smh. Are you trying to compete with others on here?

              Reid wrote an op Ed in the NYT

              We spoke at length about many of the issues that face our community, including systemic oppression against people of color, police brutality and the criminal justice system. We also discussed how we could use our platform, provided to us by being professional athletes in the N.F.L., to speak for those who are voiceless.

              After hours of careful consideration, and even a visit from Nate Boyer, a retired Green Beret and former NFL player, we came to the conclusion that we should kneel, rather than sit, the next day during the anthem as a peaceful protest. We chose to kneel because it’s a respectful gesture. I remember thinking our posture was like a flag flown at half-mast to mark a tragedy.

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                @mld-woody said:

                Citation Needed

                Stuart

                Look it up yourself lazy asss libtard.

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                @stinkhole said:

                Stuart

                Look it up yourself lazy asss libtard (woodpecker).

                More accurate....

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                  @stinkhole said:

                  Stuart

                  Look it up yourself lazy asss libtard.

                  Smh. Are you trying to compete with others on here?

                  Reid wrote an op Ed in the NYT

                  We spoke at length about many of the issues that face our community, including systemic oppression against people of color, police brutality and the criminal justice system. We also discussed how we could use our platform, provided to us by being professional athletes in the N.F.L., to speak for those who are voiceless.

                  After hours of careful consideration, and even a visit from Nate Boyer, a retired Green Beret and former NFL player, we came to the conclusion that we should kneel, rather than sit, the next day during the anthem as a peaceful protest. We chose to kneel because it’s a respectful gesture. I remember thinking our posture was like a flag flown at half-mast to mark a tragedy.

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                  StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by StinkHole
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                  @mld-woody said:

                  Smh. Are you trying to compete with others on here?

                  Reid wrote an op Ed in the NYT

                  Compete? As in who is better at making you look stupid?

                  I didn't ask for proof that some ex- military guy believes players have the right to protest. That we already know.

                  I asked you to take it upon yourself to find evidence that NFL players hate Trump...instead of demanding WSS do it for you.

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                    @mld-woody said:

                    Smh. Are you trying to compete with others on here?

                    Reid wrote an op Ed in the NYT

                    Compete? As in who is better at making you look stupid?

                    I didn't ask for proof that some ex- military guy believes players have the right to protest. That we already know.

                    I asked you to take it upon yourself to find evidence that NFL players hate Trump...instead of demanding WSS do it for you.

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                    @stinkhole said:

                    Compete? As in who is better at making you look stupid?

                    I didn't ask for proof that some ex- military guy believes players have the right to protest. That we already know.

                    I asked you to take it upon yourself to find evidence that NFL players hate Trump...instead of demanding WSS do it for you.

                    Well part of Woody's MO is to deny facts while manding documentation. Of course there's no way to document the fact that these Negroes hate the president except by comparing the end of last season where there was only a smattering of "protests" but later Trump Tazza saw that one of those love it or leave it statements and now they are up in arms.

                    That's beside the point that their so-called protest is actually counter productive but they don't care about that and I would venture to say that the mainstream media loves it because it whoops up the Great unwashed and inspires them to get off the couch and November and food.

                    Seriously if they wanted to make the problem better they would use this inspiration to tell their people not to commit Violet and drug-related crimes at a rate much higher than the average citizen. And those numbers could easily be documented.

                    But again as with most affluent and spoiled kids the attention is the goal not a solution to the problem. Someone in his twenties who has been shepherded through school and life because he has a physical gift is likely to think pretty highly of himself.

                    It's my opinion that almost all protest boils down to attention, and that includes the Tea Party or supporters of Confederate monuments, but it's usually the left, and or younger people, really because conservatives tend to be middle-aged. Not always.

                    I'm not saying that police officers overreacting with black criminal suspects is a good thing, it's just that it's BS to say they are bringing attention to it. Every single isolated incident whether it's right or wrong is all over the front pages of the papers and the internet. All the while let's say right this minute there are a multitude of reasonably innocent young black males being gunned down in the street or women being raped and murdered and without looking it up on the internet I bet those who support the NFL protest wouldn't know any of their names.

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                      PS I read a clever but ridiculous take from a hard left guy on Facebook. Strange fellow posts all the time about his church Etc and then immediately upon coming home posts a dozen hate-filled Trump posts. But his take, (because he knows many conservatives profess to be Christians) is that the NFL is denying these players there right to express their religion by praying for peace in the Inner City. Says that many religions require the followers pray on their knees. I realize nobody here has he used that oh, I just thought it was funny.

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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                        I posted a quote from one of the players that started the protest to tell you what it was about. That is why they're protesting. Not to disrespect the military, or police. Not because they just hate Trump so much. Not because you somehow think they've all grown up as spoiled brats all life trying to seek attention...

                        That was in response to Steve proclaiming he REALLY knew what it was about, though he provided no evidence. He then proceeded to make a bunch of claims without any support, but that's nothing new. Going on and on about the real motives, because he actual knows, just because

                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                          https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/05/27/us/colin-kaepernick-nfl-anthem-policy-trnd/index.html

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                            But wait I thought it was all out of respect and love for the oppressed in the inner cities?

                            http://amp.slate.com/culture/2018/05/source-eric-reids-grievance-against-nfl-will-focus-on-donald-trump.html

                            And that's not from The Blaze.

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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                              Where do you read in there that they protested because of Trump?

                              I don't think you're keeping up with the course of events. Or at least, you're choosing not to.

                              That's why there are public opinion polls asking what the protests are about, and a sizeable portion of idiots responds "it's to disrespect our flag and military!!!!"

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                Where do you read in there that they protested because of Trump?

                                I don't think you're keeping up with the course of events. Or at least, you're choosing not to.

                                That's why there are public opinion polls asking what the protests are about, and a sizeable portion of idiots responds "it's to disrespect our flag and military!!!!"

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                Where do you read in there that they protested because of Trump?

                                I don't think you're keeping up with the course of events. Or at least, you're choosing not to.

                                That's why there are public opinion polls asking what the protests are about, and a sizeable portion of idiots responds "it's to disrespect our flag and military!!!!"

                                Which is exactly why the protests are happening. Unless you insult the veterans the flag The Anthem the country etc etc etc nobody will sit up and take notice.  I just don't think they are smart enough to realize that it is  counterproductive .  Even if they did believe in that cause  more than they believe in self aggrandizement . Shock and offend. But those are the reasons you think it's so cool.

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                                  PS those articles weren't from right-wing blogs.

                                  WSS

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                                    PS those articles weren't from right-wing blogs.

                                    WSS

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    PS those articles weren't from right-wing blogs.

                                    WSS

                                    Uhhh... I read the article at the top of the page. No where does it say "these protests are because we have Trump." I already said that and you chose not to respond to it.

                                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      Where do you read in there that they protested because of Trump?

                                      I don't think you're keeping up with the course of events. Or at least, you're choosing not to.

                                      That's why there are public opinion polls asking what the protests are about, and a sizeable portion of idiots responds "it's to disrespect our flag and military!!!!"

                                      Which is exactly why the protests are happening. Unless you insult the veterans the flag The Anthem the country etc etc etc nobody will sit up and take notice.  I just don't think they are smart enough to realize that it is  counterproductive .  Even if they did believe in that cause  more than they believe in self aggrandizement . Shock and offend. But those are the reasons you think it's so cool.

                                      WSS

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                                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      Which is exactly why the protests are happening. Unless you insult the veterans the flag The Anthem the country etc etc etc nobody will sit up and take notice.  I just don't think they are smart enough to realize that it is  counterproductive .  Even if they did believe in that cause  more than they believe in self aggrandizement . Shock and offend. But those are the reasons you think it's so cool.

                                      WSS

                                      Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's counterproductive

                                      Just because you're shocked and offended doesn't mean everyone is.

                                      You have their own words what the protests are about, and you refuse to believe it. 

                                      Not to mention you keep posting like you know what these protests are really about. That you know what these players are really doing. All while insulting them and not providing any bit of evidence other than "trust me with these negroes." 

                                      When did I say I think this is "so cool". Jesus Christ try not to Typical Steve for two seconds. 

                                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                        As always, typical Steve is being right and making you look like the idiot that you are.

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                                          But seriously I posted you an article saying that these protests are focused on Trump. You want to pretend that it's all some sort of deep-seated love for the downtrodden, great.

                                          Plus if you don't think they're counterproductive and are actually making all the bad people love Intercity criminals more than let's go with that. It's stupid but it is typical Woody.

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