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  • Pharmacist refuses to fill medication for miscarriage

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walgreens-pharmacist-refused-give-woman-medication-help-miscarriage-183652430.html

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    This one is going to be tricky. We've already decided that doctors cannot be forced to perform abortions and even a wink and a nod saying that tax money shouldn't go to abortion providers.

    I can certainly understand religious people thinking that abortion is evil. Even some of our pro-abortion members are a little bit creeped out by it and might even admit that late-term abortions that have nothing to do with the mother's life should be banned.

    The pharmacist here, in my opinion, is trying to get attention. I say let somebody else fill the prescription.

    WSS

  • Pharmacist refuses to fill medication for miscarriage

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walgreens-pharmacist-refused-give-woman-medication-help-miscarriage-183652430.html

    Shared from my Google feed

    This one is going to be tricky. We've already decided that doctors cannot be forced to perform abortions and even a wink and a nod saying that tax money shouldn't go to abortion providers.

    I can certainly understand religious people thinking that abortion is evil. Even some of our pro-abortion members are a little bit creeped out by it and might even admit that late-term abortions that have nothing to do with the mother's life should be banned.

    The pharmacist here, in my opinion, is trying to get attention. I say let somebody else fill the prescription.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Pharmacist refuses to fill medication for miscarriage

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walgreens-pharmacist-refused-give-woman-medication-help-miscarriage-183652430.html

    Shared from my Google feed

    This one is going to be tricky. We've already decided that doctors cannot be forced to perform abortions and even a wink and a nod saying that tax money shouldn't go to abortion providers.

    I can certainly understand religious people thinking that abortion is evil. Even some of our pro-abortion members are a little bit creeped out by it and might even admit that late-term abortions that have nothing to do with the mother's life should be banned.

    The pharmacist here, in my opinion, is trying to get attention. I say let somebody else fill the prescription.

    WSS

    I think that is the answer to let someone else fill the prescription. 

  • @westside-steve said:

    Pharmacist refuses to fill medication for miscarriage

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walgreens-pharmacist-refused-give-woman-medication-help-miscarriage-183652430.html

    Shared from my Google feed

    This one is going to be tricky. We've already decided that doctors cannot be forced to perform abortions and even a wink and a nod saying that tax money shouldn't go to abortion providers.

    I can certainly understand religious people thinking that abortion is evil. Even some of our pro-abortion members are a little bit creeped out by it and might even admit that late-term abortions that have nothing to do with the mother's life should be banned.

    The pharmacist here, in my opinion, is trying to get attention. I say let somebody else fill the prescription.

    WSS

    I think that is the answer to let someone else fill the prescription. 

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I think that is the answer to let someone else fill the prescription. 

    What if there isn't another pharmacist at that location that will fill it?

    Also, it sounds like this was medication to enduce a miscarriage on a fetus that had already died through natural means

  • @westside-steve said:

    Pharmacist refuses to fill medication for miscarriage

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walgreens-pharmacist-refused-give-woman-medication-help-miscarriage-183652430.html

    Shared from my Google feed

    This one is going to be tricky. We've already decided that doctors cannot be forced to perform abortions and even a wink and a nod saying that tax money shouldn't go to abortion providers.

    I can certainly understand religious people thinking that abortion is evil. Even some of our pro-abortion members are a little bit creeped out by it and might even admit that late-term abortions that have nothing to do with the mother's life should be banned.

    The pharmacist here, in my opinion, is trying to get attention. I say let somebody else fill the prescription.

    WSS

    I think that is the answer to let someone else fill the prescription. 

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I think that is the answer to let someone else fill the prescription. 

    Miscarrage? Are you kidding? He should lose his pharmacy licence.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    I think that is the answer to let someone else fill the prescription. 

    What if there isn't another pharmacist at that location that will fill it?

    Also, it sounds like this was medication to enduce a miscarriage on a fetus that had already died through natural means

    @mld-woody said:

    What if there isn't another pharmacist at that location that will fill it?

    Also, it sounds like this was medication to enduce a miscarriage on a fetus that had already died through natural means

    This is a simple fix. Let another pharmacist handle it. If there is not another pharmacist at the location then the pharmacist who refused can arrange with another pharmacist to do it. This should not be a problem and there were other pharmacists there that should have filled it for her, anyway 

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Losing his license would be a miscarriage of justice but he needs to make arrangements on these kinds of cases for other pharmacists. That is what I would tell him.

    This is what can happen when we get religion, politics and everything else entwined with normal business life. 

    Tell the pharmacist to go paint some signs and go protest while he looks for another profession.

  • cant have these people in a free market capitalist system. if something were to happen to one of these becausevthis fukhat is imposing his religion on others...he oughtta be sued blind fir all he's worth than thrown in jail. 

    i understand peoples religious objections to certain sht but then u gotta understand certain jobs u cant have.....tuff sht

  • can u imagine if there was a pill that kept the gay away and some pharmacist refused to fill it.....can u imagine the outrage on the right? and there would be no "find another pharmacist" they would be call8ng for his head.

  • No dr or pharmacist, baker or priest can be forced to violate their

    religious beliefs.

      Freedom of RELIGION, not freedom of bigotry.

  • ur right, and they also need to find new professions.

  • https://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007693

    Key Dates

    MARCH 1933
    SA REIGN OF TERROR AGAINST JEWS THROUGHOUT GERMANY

    The SA (Storm Troopers) attack Jewish-owned department stores in German cities in an attempt to segregate Jews from the rest of society. Local police, not yet under Nazi control, unsuccessfully attempt to stop the attacks. Members of the SA continue the rampage and enter courtrooms, dragging Jewish lawyers and judges into the streets where they are subjected to humiliating public acts. These attacks are publicized by international Jewish organizations and the press, which urge a boycott of German goods. In response, the Nazis organize a nationwide boycott of Jewish businesses in Germany, blaming Jews for anti-German tone of the international press.

    APRIL 1, 1933
    NATIONWIDE BOYCOTT OF JEWISH-OWNED BUSINESSES

    At 10:00 a.m., SA and SS members stand in front of Jewish-owned businesses throughout Germany to inform the public that the proprietors of these establishments are Jewish. The word "Jude," German for "Jew," is often smeared on store display windows, with a Star of David painted in yellow and black across the doors. Anti-Jewish signs accompany these slogans. In some towns, the SA marches through the streets singing anti-Jewish slogans and party songs. In other towns, violence accompanies the boycott; in Kiel, a Jewish lawyer is killed. The official boycott ends at midnight.

    APRIL 7, 1933
    LAW DISMISSES JEWS FROM CIVIL SERVICE

    The Nazi government enacts the Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service. This law seeks to exclude those considered to be opponents of the Nazi state—Jews and political opponents. As a result, civil service employees are forced to prove their "Aryan" descent by documenting the religion of their parents and grandparents. If unable to do so, they are dismissed from service. Hitler reluctantly concedes to President Paul von Hindenburg's demand to exempt from dismissal those civil servants who are veterans of World War I or whose close relatives had fallen in that conflict. Similar laws passed in the following weeks affect Jewish lawyers and doctors.

    Copyright © United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Washington, DC

  • No dr or pharmacist, baker or priest can be forced to violate their

    religious beliefs.

      Freedom of RELIGION, not freedom of bigotry.

    @calfoxwc said:

    No dr or pharmacist, baker or priest can be forced to violate their

    religious beliefs.

      Freedom of RELIGION, not freedom of bigotry.

    Making an accommodation for religious beliefs can usually be worked out. In this case the pharmacy should just have another pharmacist handle these cases. Simple fix,

  • @calfoxwc said:

    No dr or pharmacist, baker or priest can be forced to violate their

    religious beliefs.

      Freedom of RELIGION, not freedom of bigotry.

    Making an accommodation for religious beliefs can usually be worked out. In this case the pharmacy should just have another pharmacist handle these cases. Simple fix,

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Making an accommodation for religious beliefs can usually be worked out. In this case the pharmacy should just have another pharmacist handle these cases. Simple fix,

    u mean like kim davis should have allowed one of her deputy magistrates dole out the liscenses? anyway, pharmacies usually dont have multiple pharmacists on duty at the same time. and newsflash dead fetus's could seriously damage women so there is a time factor here. there are places in this country where there is one pharmacist within 50-100 sq miles or more. 

    thos is just one of those professions thays not for religious folk. 

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Making an accommodation for religious beliefs can usually be worked out. In this case the pharmacy should just have another pharmacist handle these cases. Simple fix,

    u mean like kim davis should have allowed one of her deputy magistrates dole out the liscenses? anyway, pharmacies usually dont have multiple pharmacists on duty at the same time. and newsflash dead fetus's could seriously damage women so there is a time factor here. there are places in this country where there is one pharmacist within 50-100 sq miles or more. 

    thos is just one of those professions thays not for religious folk. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    u mean like kim davis should have allowed one of her deputy magistrates dole out the liscenses? anyway, pharmacies usually dont have multiple pharmacists on duty at the same time. and newsflash dead fetus's could seriously damage women so there is a time factor here. there are places in this country where there is one pharmacist within 50-100 sq miles or more. 

    thos is just one of those professions thays not for religious folk. 

    The problem Kim Davis had was her name was signed to the marriage certificates to gay couples and even if another clerk handled the case her name would still be on it. They took her name off the license and it was a simple fix. Also Kim Davis went to jail for not following the law and when are the leaders of sanctuary cities going to go to jail  for not following the law? 

  • One difference is that Walgreens has a national chain and apparently has no problem selling the birth control pill. The pharmacist is merely an employee so I figure if he can't see his way clear to providing that pill time to look for some place that will support him. Same with the woman in Kentucky. The bakers were sole Proprietors. 

    WSS

  • The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

    WSS

  • The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

    WSS

    what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

  • Pharmacist refuses to fill medication for miscarriage

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walgreens-pharmacist-refused-give-woman-medication-help-miscarriage-183652430.html

    Shared from my Google feed

    This one is going to be tricky. We've already decided that doctors cannot be forced to perform abortions and even a wink and a nod saying that tax money shouldn't go to abortion providers.

    I can certainly understand religious people thinking that abortion is evil. Even some of our pro-abortion members are a little bit creeped out by it and might even admit that late-term abortions that have nothing to do with the mother's life should be banned.

    The pharmacist here, in my opinion, is trying to get attention. I say let somebody else fill the prescription.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Pharmacist refuses to fill medication for miscarriage

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walgreens-pharmacist-refused-give-woman-medication-help-miscarriage-183652430.html

    Shared from my Google feed

    This one is going to be tricky. We've already decided that doctors cannot be forced to perform abortions and even a wink and a nod saying that tax money shouldn't go to abortion providers.

    I can certainly understand religious people thinking that abortion is evil. Even some of our pro-abortion members are a little bit creeped out by it and might even admit that late-term abortions that have nothing to do with the mother's life should be banned.

    The pharmacist here, in my opinion, is trying to get attention. I say let somebody else fill the prescription.

    WSS

    Bravo.  Bravo I say.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    I think that is the answer to let someone else fill the prescription. 

    Miscarrage? Are you kidding? He should lose his pharmacy licence.

    @mjp28 said:

    Miscarrage? Are you kidding? He should lose his pharmacy licence.

    No he shouldn't.  It's there policy that they do not have to fill a prescription.  He does have to arrange for some other store to take care of it, which he did.

  • @westside-steve said:

    The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

    WSS

    what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

    @clevfan4life said:

    what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

    Here's your cake kids. You can put your own to queer guys on top of it. 

    WSS