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  • T TexasAg1969

    What about the Slippery Rock whatever that thing is called Rocky??

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    @texasag1969 said:

    What about the Slippery Rock whatever that thing is called Rocky??

    Slippery Rock and Michigan have an interesting historical relationship. We announce their football results at every home game. They've played in the big house too.

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      Steelers make sense. Rust Belt. American values. Etc. Plus they've been much more successful than us.

      Notre Dame made me laugh at first. Then I remembered the increasing number of senior citizens from the baby boomers, and it makes sense. Notre Dame represents that America well.

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        Steelers make sense. Rust Belt. American values. Etc. Plus they've been much more successful than us.

        Notre Dame made me laugh at first. Then I remembered the increasing number of senior citizens from the baby boomers, and it makes sense. Notre Dame represents that America well.

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        @mld-woody said:

        Steelers make sense. Rust Belt. American values. Etc. Plus they've been much more successful than us.

        Notre Dame made me laugh at first. Then I remembered the increasing number of senior citizens from the baby boomers, and it makes sense. Notre Dame represents that America well.

        Notre Dame is still the #1 brand among all of college sports perhaps,  from GI Generation to Boomers, to Millenials.

        Name another program that has its own network.

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          @mld-woody said:

          Steelers make sense. Rust Belt. American values. Etc. Plus they've been much more successful than us.

          Notre Dame made me laugh at first. Then I remembered the increasing number of senior citizens from the baby boomers, and it makes sense. Notre Dame represents that America well.

          Notre Dame is still the #1 brand among all of college sports perhaps,  from GI Generation to Boomers, to Millenials.

          Name another program that has its own network.

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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          @the-gipper said:

          Notre Dame is still the #1 brand among all of college sports perhaps,  from GI Generation to Boomers, to Millenials.

          Name another program that has its own network.

          Texas

          and I can promise you Notre Dame is not the #1 brand among Millennials… lol.

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            @texasag1969 said:

            What about the Slippery Rock whatever that thing is called Rocky??

            Slippery Rock and Michigan have an interesting historical relationship. We announce their football results at every home game. They've played in the big house too.

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            @mld-woody said:

            Slippery Rock and Michigan have an interesting historical relationship. We announce their football results at every home game. They've played in the big house too.

            Does Slippery Rock's rival beat them every year too? ?

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              @mld-woody said:

              Steelers make sense. Rust Belt. American values. Etc. Plus they've been much more successful than us.

              Notre Dame made me laugh at first. Then I remembered the increasing number of senior citizens from the baby boomers, and it makes sense. Notre Dame represents that America well.

              Notre Dame is still the #1 brand among all of college sports perhaps,  from GI Generation to Boomers, to Millenials.

              Name another program that has its own network.

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              @the-gipper said:

              Notre Dame is still the #1 brand among all of college sports perhaps,  from GI Generation to Boomers, to Millenials.

              Name another program that has its own network.

              Being a long time ND fan you can see where they fell off the track but still have a unique following :

              1918–30 Knute Rockne 13 105–12–5 .881 1924, 1929, 1930
              1931–33 Heartley Anderson 3 16–9–2 .630  
              1934–40 Elmer Layden 7 47–13–3 .770  
              1941–43, 46–53 Frank Leahy 11 87–11–9 .855 1943, 1946, 1947, 1949
              1944 Edward McKeever 1 8–2–0 .800  
              1945, 63 Hugh Devore 2 9–9–1 .500  
              1954–58 Terry Brennan 5 32–18–0 .640 no #1 in the 50s
              1959–62 Joe Kuharich 4 17–23–0 .425 only losing record over time 
              1964–74 Ara Parseghian 11 95–17–4 .836 1966, 1973
              1975–80 Dan Devine 6 53–16–1 .764 1977
              1981–85 Gerry Faust 5 30–26–1 .535 oooops
              1986–96 Lou Holtz 11 100–30–2 .765 1988
              1997–2001 Bob Davie 5 35–25 .583 and trying to get it back!
              2001* George O'Leary 0 0–0 .000  
              2002–2004 Tyrone Willingham 3 21–15 .583  
              2004** Kent Baer 1 0–1 .000  
              2005–2009 Charlie Weis 5 35–27 .565  
              2010–present Brian Kelly 8 69–34 .670 getting closer but...
              Totals 31 coaches 126 seasons 895–321–42 .731
              * George O'Leary did not coach a single practice or game, being fired five days 
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                @the-gipper said:

                Notre Dame is still the #1 brand among all of college sports perhaps,  from GI Generation to Boomers, to Millenials.

                Name another program that has its own network.

                Texas

                and I can promise you Notre Dame is not the #1 brand among Millennials… lol.

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @mld-woody said:

                Texas

                and I can promise you Notre Dame is not the #1 brand among Millennials… lol.

                Prove it

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                  @mld-woody said:

                  Texas

                  and I can promise you Notre Dame is not the #1 brand among Millennials… lol.

                  Prove it

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Prove it

                  Well, you were already wrong about Notre Dame being the only school that "had their own network". Since they don't and Texas literally does. 

                  All of the glory days you talk about with the Browns, when blacks couldn't play and the forward pass didn't exist, that's when Notre Dame was relevant. ND is old blood. If you want to think they're as relevant to younger fans as OSU, Bama, etc, then so be it. I won't convince you otherwise

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                    I used to listen to football on the Armed Forces Shortwave Radio broadcasts in Venezuela and they always included the Slippery Rock score along with all the top conference teams in the country. Otherwise I never would have heard of the school growing up in Texas.

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      Texas

                      and I can promise you Notre Dame is not the #1 brand among Millennials… lol.

                      Prove it

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                      @the-gipper said:

                      Prove it

                      The NOTRE DAME network is essentially the Notre Dame Broadcasting Corporation  (NBC), ND just went out against the objections of the NCAA and did it.

                      UT, well  http://www.espn.com/longhornnetwork/about

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                      Longhorn Network covers Texas sports like never before. With 175 exclusive events a year from all 20 UT sports, and hundreds of hours of original studio content, you can put your eyes upon Texas ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Stay close to your Horns with weekly coaches' shows, live press conferences, pre and postgame analysis with Texas GameDay, All Access behind the scenes, and coverage of Lifetime Longhorns. LHN is also available on WatchESPN with participating providers.

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                        @the-gipper said:

                        Prove it

                        Well, you were already wrong about Notre Dame being the only school that "had their own network". Since they don't and Texas literally does. 

                        All of the glory days you talk about with the Browns, when blacks couldn't play and the forward pass didn't exist, that's when Notre Dame was relevant. ND is old blood. If you want to think they're as relevant to younger fans as OSU, Bama, etc, then so be it. I won't convince you otherwise

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @mld-woody said:

                        Well, you were already wrong about Notre Dame being the only school that "had their own network". Since they don't and Texas literally does. 

                        All of the glory days you talk about with the Browns, when blacks couldn't play and the forward pass didn't exist, that's when Notre Dame was relevant. ND is old blood. If you want to think they're as relevant to younger fans as OSU, Bama, etc, then so be it. I won't convince you otherwise

                        I am talking about a National Broadcasting Network....like NBC.    Not something that they created themselves for themselves.

                        And you are totally missing the point:   the question asked was NOT "which program is winning the most now or getting the better recruits"   the question is:  "which program best represents America"  "Which program has the most recognizable brand".  
                        This particular Forbes study has  Texas as the #1 "most valuable" program, and Notre Dame as #2. 

                        https://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45el/2-university-of-notre-dame-fighting-irish/#68d261405cd8

                        But just being the most valuable money wise does not mean the same as being the most recognizable or the best representative of the entire nation. My daughter lives in Texas, and while people like them, there is a high debate about whether that school even best represents  Texas.  Ask some of our Texas patrons on here about that that.

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                          mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                          Our posts went up simultaneously, how about that. 

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            Prove it

                            The NOTRE DAME network is essentially the Notre Dame Broadcasting Corporation  (NBC), ND just went out against the objections of the NCAA and did it.

                            UT, well  http://www.espn.com/longhornnetwork/about

                            TEXAS SPORTS. ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY.

                            Longhorn Network covers Texas sports like never before. With 175 exclusive events a year from all 20 UT sports, and hundreds of hours of original studio content, you can put your eyes upon Texas ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Stay close to your Horns with weekly coaches' shows, live press conferences, pre and postgame analysis with Texas GameDay, All Access behind the scenes, and coverage of Lifetime Longhorns. LHN is also available on WatchESPN with participating providers.

                            Exclusive Events

                            • At least two regular season Texas Football games
                            • Approximately 10 men's and 14 women's basketball games
                            • Approximately 60+ softball and baseball games
                            • Nearly all home women's volleyball and soccer matches
                            • Swimming and diving, track and field, tennis, rowing, and golf event coverage

                            Studio & Other Programming

                            • Get ready for kickoff with live Texas GameDay pregame and Texas GameDay Final postgame for every Texas Football game. Plus, Texas GameDay for select basketball and baseball games.
                            • Exclusive Coaches Shows with the Longhorns’ coaches.
                            • Beyond the football regular season, coverage of Signing Day, Pro Day, and Orange & White Spring Game.
                            • Academic content showcasing the University and city of Austin, including esteemed guest lecturers, live coverage of Commencement, UT President's address, campus events, and music.
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                            @mjp28 said:

                            The NOTRE DAME network is essentially the Notre Dame Broadcasting Corporation  (NBC), ND just went out against the objections of the NCAA and did it.

                            UT, well  http://www.espn.com/longhornnetwork/about

                            TEXAS SPORTS. ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY.

                            Longhorn Network covers Texas sports like never before. With 175 exclusive events a year from all 20 UT sports, and hundreds of hours of original studio content, you can put your eyes upon Texas ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Stay close to your Horns with weekly coaches' shows, live press conferences, pre and postgame analysis with Texas GameDay, All Access behind the scenes, and coverage of Lifetime Longhorns. LHN is also available on WatchESPN with participating providers.

                            Exclusive Events

                            • At least two regular season Texas Football games
                            • Approximately 10 men's and 14 women's basketball games
                            • Approximately 60+ softball and baseball games
                            • Nearly all home women's volleyball and soccer matches
                            • Swimming and diving, track and field, tennis, rowing, and golf event coverage

                            Studio & Other Programming

                            • Get ready for kickoff with live Texas GameDay pregame and Texas GameDay Final postgame for every Texas Football game. Plus, Texas GameDay for select basketball and baseball games.
                            • Exclusive Coaches Shows with the Longhorns’ coaches.
                            • Beyond the football regular season, coverage of Signing Day, Pro Day, and Orange & White Spring Game.
                            • Academic content showcasing the University and city of Austin, including esteemed guest lecturers, live coverage of Commencement, UT President's address, campus events, and music.

                            Right, it is basically like an on campus radio station, except it is an on campus sports tv station.

                            How many people in Ohio...Michigan, New York, PA, Chicago, Philly, California...etc.  subscribe to that network?

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                                  TMI on the effing Longhorn network.   Really.

                                  And aside from Woody's silopsism about Notre Dame.....I see that no one else apparently objected to anything that Cowherd put out there.

                                  But, I ask this:   Can not the Raiders be said to represent a large part of America?  Its somewhat darker side?

                                  Consider that the Raiders are the team of choice for Biker gangs and  street gangs...and any number of nefarious entities?   It has represented the worst of the greed associated with capitalism....It is the one team that would move and abandon a fan base at the drop of a hat...leaving devastation behind in its wake.   Now it is going to Vegas....Sin City itself. 

                                  The Raiders may not represent the wholesome America that people want to see....but they absolutely represent some of the basic truth about America.

                                  Fair to say?

                                  ☠️🥷

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                                    There is only 1 team....... The Springfield Isotopes

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                                      There is only 1 team....... The Springfield Isotopes

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                                      @d-bone said:

                                      There is only 1 team....... The Springfield Isotopes

                                      Who have been bombarding your brain cells?

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        Well, you were already wrong about Notre Dame being the only school that "had their own network". Since they don't and Texas literally does. 

                                        All of the glory days you talk about with the Browns, when blacks couldn't play and the forward pass didn't exist, that's when Notre Dame was relevant. ND is old blood. If you want to think they're as relevant to younger fans as OSU, Bama, etc, then so be it. I won't convince you otherwise

                                        I am talking about a National Broadcasting Network....like NBC.    Not something that they created themselves for themselves.

                                        And you are totally missing the point:   the question asked was NOT "which program is winning the most now or getting the better recruits"   the question is:  "which program best represents America"  "Which program has the most recognizable brand".  
                                        This particular Forbes study has  Texas as the #1 "most valuable" program, and Notre Dame as #2. 

                                        https://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45el/2-university-of-notre-dame-fighting-irish/#68d261405cd8

                                        But just being the most valuable money wise does not mean the same as being the most recognizable or the best representative of the entire nation. My daughter lives in Texas, and while people like them, there is a high debate about whether that school even best represents  Texas.  Ask some of our Texas patrons on here about that that.

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        I am talking about a National Broadcasting Network....like NBC.    Not something that they created themselves for themselves.

                                        And you are totally missing the point:   the question asked was NOT "which program is winning the most now or getting the better recruits"   the question is:  "which program best represents America"  "Which program has the most recognizable brand".  
                                        This particular Forbes study has  Texas as the #1 "most valuable" program, and Notre Dame as #2. 

                                        https://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45el/2-university-of-notre-dame-fighting-irish/#68d261405cd8

                                        But just being the most valuable money wise does not mean the same as being the most recognizable or the best representative of the entire nation. My daughter lives in Texas, and while people like them, there is a high debate about whether that school even best represents  Texas.  Ask some of our Texas patrons on here about that that.

                                        1) ND games are broadcast on NBC, it's not their Network.

                                        2) Figured you'd post a more recent "most valuable" article. That one has to be at least 5 years old. Plus, a lot of the most recent ones have OSU as most valuable. ND being much lower than 1. Here they're 8

                                        https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/ncaa-division-i-fbs/news/ohio-state-most-valuable-college-football-program/qsmdg38wta4311g2ypz1c8e3q

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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          I am talking about a National Broadcasting Network....like NBC.    Not something that they created themselves for themselves.

                                          And you are totally missing the point:   the question asked was NOT "which program is winning the most now or getting the better recruits"   the question is:  "which program best represents America"  "Which program has the most recognizable brand".  
                                          This particular Forbes study has  Texas as the #1 "most valuable" program, and Notre Dame as #2. 

                                          https://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45el/2-university-of-notre-dame-fighting-irish/#68d261405cd8

                                          But just being the most valuable money wise does not mean the same as being the most recognizable or the best representative of the entire nation. My daughter lives in Texas, and while people like them, there is a high debate about whether that school even best represents  Texas.  Ask some of our Texas patrons on here about that that.

                                          1) ND games are broadcast on NBC, it's not their Network.

                                          2) Figured you'd post a more recent "most valuable" article. That one has to be at least 5 years old. Plus, a lot of the most recent ones have OSU as most valuable. ND being much lower than 1. Here they're 8

                                          https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/ncaa-division-i-fbs/news/ohio-state-most-valuable-college-football-program/qsmdg38wta4311g2ypz1c8e3q

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          1) ND games are broadcast on NBC, it's not their Network.

                                          2) Figured you'd post a more recent "most valuable" article. That one has to be at least 5 years old. Plus, a lot of the most recent ones have OSU as most valuable. ND being much lower than 1. Here they're 8

                                          https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/ncaa-division-i-fbs/news/ohio-state-most-valuable-college-football-program/qsmdg38wta4311g2ypz1c8e3q

                                          Yes my point exactly Notre Dame is broadcast on a national broadcasting network. Texas is not. They are broadcast on their own private network that is only for their own private usage and your own esoteric fans. No national broadcast network is interested in exclusively being the network for the university of Texas

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