The Ten Teams that Best Represent America????

[Dutch Oven]

@mld-woody said:

Slippery Rock and Michigan have an interesting historical relationship. We announce their football results at every home game. They've played in the big house too.

Does Slippery Rock's rival beat them every year too? ?

[mjp28]

@the-gipper said:

Notre Dame is still the #1 brand among all of college sports perhaps,  from GI Generation to Boomers, to Millenials.

Name another program that has its own network.

Being a long time ND fan you can see where they fell off the track but still have a unique following :

1918–30	Knute Rockne	13	105–12–5	.881	1924, 1929, 1930
1931–33	Heartley Anderson	3	16–9–2	.630
1934–40	Elmer Layden	7	47–13–3	.770
1941–43, 46–53	Frank Leahy	11	87–11–9	.855	1943, 1946, 1947, 1949
1944	Edward McKeever	1	8–2–0	.800
1945, 63	Hugh Devore	2	9–9–1	.500
1954–58	Terry Brennan	5	32–18–0	.640	no #1 in the 50s
1959–62	Joe Kuharich	4	17–23–0	.425	only losing record over time
1964–74	Ara Parseghian	11	95–17–4	.836	1966, 1973
1975–80	Dan Devine	6	53–16–1	.764	1977
1981–85	Gerry Faust	5	30–26–1	.535	oooops
1986–96	Lou Holtz	11	100–30–2	.765	1988
1997–2001	Bob Davie	5	35–25	.583	and trying to get it back!
2001*	George O'Leary	0	0–0	.000
2002–2004	Tyrone Willingham	3	21–15	.583
2004**	Kent Baer	1	0–1	.000
2005–2009	Charlie Weis	5	35–27	.565
2010–present	Brian Kelly	8	69–34	.670	getting closer but...
Totals	31 coaches	126 seasons	895–321–42	.731
* George O'Leary did not coach a single practice or game, being fired five days

[The Gipper]

@mld-woody said:

Texas

and I can promise you Notre Dame is not the #1 brand among Millennials… lol.

Prove it

[MLD Woody]

@the-gipper said:

Prove it

Well, you were already wrong about Notre Dame being the only school that "had their own network". Since they don't and Texas literally does. 

All of the glory days you talk about with the Browns, when blacks couldn't play and the forward pass didn't exist, that's when Notre Dame was relevant. ND is old blood. If you want to think they're as relevant to younger fans as OSU, Bama, etc, then so be it. I won't convince you otherwise

[TexasAg1969]

I used to listen to football on the Armed Forces Shortwave Radio broadcasts in Venezuela and they always included the Slippery Rock score along with all the top conference teams in the country. Otherwise I never would have heard of the school growing up in Texas.

[mjp28]

@the-gipper said:

Prove it

The NOTRE DAME network is essentially the Notre Dame Broadcasting Corporation  (NBC), ND just went out against the objections of the NCAA and did it.

UT, well  http://www.espn.com/longhornnetwork/about

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[The Gipper]

@mld-woody said:

Well, you were already wrong about Notre Dame being the only school that "had their own network". Since they don't and Texas literally does. 

All of the glory days you talk about with the Browns, when blacks couldn't play and the forward pass didn't exist, that's when Notre Dame was relevant. ND is old blood. If you want to think they're as relevant to younger fans as OSU, Bama, etc, then so be it. I won't convince you otherwise

I am talking about a National Broadcasting Network....like NBC.    Not something that they created themselves for themselves.

And you are totally missing the point:   the question asked was NOT "which program is winning the most now or getting the better recruits"   the question is:  "which program best represents America"  "Which program has the most recognizable brand".  
This particular Forbes study has  Texas as the #1 "most valuable" program, and Notre Dame as #2. 

https://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45el/2-university-of-notre-dame-fighting-irish/#68d261405cd8

But just being the most valuable money wise does not mean the same as being the most recognizable or the best representative of the entire nation. My daughter lives in Texas, and while people like them, there is a high debate about whether that school even best represents  Texas.  Ask some of our Texas patrons on here about that that.

[mjp28]

Our posts went up simultaneously, how about that. 

[The Gipper]

@mjp28 said:

The NOTRE DAME network is essentially the Notre Dame Broadcasting Corporation  (NBC), ND just went out against the objections of the NCAA and did it.

UT, well  http://www.espn.com/longhornnetwork/about

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• Approximately 10 men's and 14 women's basketball games
• Approximately 60+ softball and baseball games
• Nearly all home women's volleyball and soccer matches
• Swimming and diving, track and field, tennis, rowing, and golf event coverage

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• Beyond the football regular season, coverage of Signing Day, Pro Day, and Orange & White Spring Game.
• Academic content showcasing the University and city of Austin, including esteemed guest lecturers, live coverage of Commencement, UT President's address, campus events, and music.

Right, it is basically like an on campus radio station, except it is an on campus sports tv station.

How many people in Ohio...Michigan, New York, PA, Chicago, Philly, California...etc.  subscribe to that network?

[mjp28]

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[The Gipper]

TMI on the effing Longhorn network.   Really.

And aside from Woody's silopsism about Notre Dame.....I see that no one else apparently objected to anything that Cowherd put out there.

But, I ask this:   Can not the Raiders be said to represent a large part of America?  Its somewhat darker side?

Consider that the Raiders are the team of choice for Biker gangs and  street gangs...and any number of nefarious entities?   It has represented the worst of the greed associated with capitalism....It is the one team that would move and abandon a fan base at the drop of a hat...leaving devastation behind in its wake.   Now it is going to Vegas....Sin City itself. 

The Raiders may not represent the wholesome America that people want to see....but they absolutely represent some of the basic truth about America.

Fair to say?

️🥷

[D Bone]

There is only 1 team....... The Springfield Isotopes

[The Gipper]

@d-bone said:

There is only 1 team....... The Springfield Isotopes

Who have been bombarding your brain cells?

[MLD Woody]

@the-gipper said:

I am talking about a National Broadcasting Network....like NBC.    Not something that they created themselves for themselves.

And you are totally missing the point:   the question asked was NOT "which program is winning the most now or getting the better recruits"   the question is:  "which program best represents America"  "Which program has the most recognizable brand".  
This particular Forbes study has  Texas as the #1 "most valuable" program, and Notre Dame as #2. 

https://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45el/2-university-of-notre-dame-fighting-irish/#68d261405cd8

But just being the most valuable money wise does not mean the same as being the most recognizable or the best representative of the entire nation. My daughter lives in Texas, and while people like them, there is a high debate about whether that school even best represents  Texas.  Ask some of our Texas patrons on here about that that.

1) ND games are broadcast on NBC, it's not their Network.

2) Figured you'd post a more recent "most valuable" article. That one has to be at least 5 years old. Plus, a lot of the most recent ones have OSU as most valuable. ND being much lower than 1. Here they're 8

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/ncaa-division-i-fbs/news/ohio-state-most-valuable-college-football-program/qsmdg38wta4311g2ypz1c8e3q

[The Gipper]

@mld-woody said:

1) ND games are broadcast on NBC, it's not their Network.

2) Figured you'd post a more recent "most valuable" article. That one has to be at least 5 years old. Plus, a lot of the most recent ones have OSU as most valuable. ND being much lower than 1. Here they're 8

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/ncaa-division-i-fbs/news/ohio-state-most-valuable-college-football-program/qsmdg38wta4311g2ypz1c8e3q

Yes my point exactly Notre Dame is broadcast on a national broadcasting network. Texas is not. They are broadcast on their own private network that is only for their own private usage and your own esoteric fans. No national broadcast network is interested in exclusively being the network for the university of Texas

[MLD Woody]

@the-gipper said:

Yes my point exactly Notre Dame is broadcast on a national broadcasting network. Texas is not. They are broadcast on their own private network that is only for their own private usage and your own esoteric fans. No national broadcast network is interested in exclusively being the network for the university of Texas

Not "their Network". Other teams are on NBC. But whatever, I can't get you to change your mind when you're saying 2+2=5, I'm not going to here on some definition of "own". 

[The Gipper]

@mld-woody said:

Not "their Network". Other teams are on NBC. But whatever, I can't get you to change your mind when you're saying 2+2=5, I'm not going to here on some definition of "own". 

What other team is shown on NBC. I am not aware of any other conference has a deal with NBC oh except maybe you know what is it Grambling and Prairieview A&M

[mjp28]

@mld-woody said:

Not "their Network". Other teams are on NBC. But whatever, I can't get you to change your mind when you're saying 2+2=5, I'm not going to here on some definition of "own". 

Not exactly there Woody, ND's deal is somewhat unique as compared to the other NCAA D-1A school's TV deals, from their last deal:

NBC's Notre Dame deal extended

...AP...Apr 18, 2013

SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- NBC Sports Group announced a 10-year contract extension to televise Notre Dame football games Thursday, doubling the length of its previous agreement.

NBC and Notre Dame said the extension would begin in 2016 and run through the 2025 season. The contract, reportedly worth $15 million annually for football, had never run for more than five years.

NBC will have global media rights on all platforms to a minimum of seven Notre Dame home football games each year, with most airing on the main NBC network. It also allows for games to be carried on the NBC Sports Network cable channel.

NBC has held Notre Dame football TV rights since 1991. Terms of the new contract were not announced.

"Coming off one of Notre Dame's best and most dramatic seasons in decades, we could not be more proud to extend this historic partnership, which continues to be one of the most innovative in sports-media history," NBC Sports Group chairman Mark Lazarus said in a statement. "We are particularly excited that this extension offers enhanced rights that allow us to bring Notre Dame football to fans on more platforms than ever before."

Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick said the addition of the NBC Sports Network will allow for greater exposure for the football team and other Notre Dame sports programs.

"We look forward to collaborating on additional projects and distribution strategies in seasons to come," Swarbrick said in a statement.

Notre Dame's football team finished the regular season 12-0 last season and lost to Alabama in the BCS championship game.

According to NBC Sports Group, the Irish averaged 4.4 million viewers and a 2.8 household rating for its seven games on NBC in 2012. That marked a 69 percent increase in viewers and 67 percent increase in household rating compared with 2011.

Notre Dame plans to continue using revenues from the contract to fund the school's financial-aid endowment for the general student body, not including athletes. The school said that since 1991, about 6,300 undergraduates have received nearly $80 million in aid from revenue generated through the NBC contract.

Notre Dame also uses NBC revenues to endow doctoral fellowships in its graduate school and MBA scholarships in its Mendoza College of Business.

[mjp28]

Just to clarify.....being a big ND fan from the Ara days......NBC only had and lost the Pac-10 teams and others for a short while, their NCAA Football TV is pretty much Notre Dame and the below schools (from 2016 & 2017):

2016 scheduleEdit

Date	Game	Kickoff Time  (Eastern Time)	Host Conference
Friday 09/30/16	Penn at Dartmouth	7:00 p.m.	Ivy League[23]
Friday 10/21/16	Penn at Yale	7:00 p.m.	Ivy League
Friday 10/28/16	Yale at Columbia	7:00 p.m.	Ivy League
Friday 11/11/16	Harvard at Penn	8:00 p.m.	Ivy League
Saturday 11/19/16	Harvard at Yale	12:30 p.m.	Ivy League
Saturday 11/26/16	Southern vs. Grambling State	5:00 p.m.	SWAC Bayou Classic

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2017 scheduleEdit

Date	Game	Kickoff Time  (Eastern Time)	Host Conference
Friday 09/29/17	Dartmouth at Penn	7:00 p.m.	Ivy League
Saturday 09/30/17	Miami (OH) at Notre Dame	5:00 p.m.	Notre Dame (Independent)
Friday 10/20/17	Princeton at Harvard	7:30 p.m.	Ivy League
Saturday 10/28/17	Cornell at Princeton	7:00 p.m.	Ivy League
Saturday 11/18/17	Harvard at Yale	12:00 p.m.	Ivy League
Saturday 11/25/17	Southern vs. Grambling State	5:00 p.m.	SWAC Bayou Classic