Study has Browns as one of the WORST fan bases
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But they admit viewership is down, how does that bode for the future? Next answer?
........oh would you sink $2,000,000,000 into a new stadium in 2018?
I think more and more people are going to sports bars to watch games rather than watch at home. No way to account for that viewership. The box Neilsen gives out to random households is no longer measuring who is watching football. Those people are at sport bars across this country.
I think more and more people are going to sports bars to watch games rather than watch at home. No way to account for that viewership. The box Neilsen gives out to random households is no longer measuring who is watching football. Those people are at sport bars across this country.
Some are but not nearly all though, that isn't the biggest problem out there.
There are hard numbers that American tackle football numbers are going down in participation, attendance, viewership at all levels. Some high schools are cutting back to 7/7 or discontinuing football altogether.
Then there's the continuing CTE issues out there, moms want junior to play soccer.
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2017 from the NCAA.....
ALL NCAA TEAMS http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statistics/ncaa-football-attendance
Total
Teams Games Attendance Average
Change In
Total
Change In
Avg.
Home Attendance, Division I-FBS 129 810 34,107,211 42,108 -693,708 -962
FBS Neutral-Site Attendance $ 22 1,262,707 57,396 -352,480 -4,727
FBS Bowl Game Attendance # 40 1,620,253 40,506 -90,171 -1,212
NCAA DIVISION I-FBS TOTALS 129 868 36,632,625 42,203 -1,441,042 -1,409
Home Attendance, Division I-FCS 123 657 5,123,547 7,798 114,123 -17
FCS Neutral-Site Attendance ^$ 12 366,640 30,553 -83,469 -4,071
FCS Championship Game 1 19,090 19,090 4,667 4,667
NCAA DIVISION I-FCS TOTALS 123 670 5,509,277 8,223 35,321 -134
NCAA DIVISION I TOTALS 252 1,538 42,141,902 27,400 -1,405,721 -1,100
Home Attendance, NCAA Division II & 168 895 2,859,249 3,195 -168,401 -128
Division II Neutral-Site Attendance ^$ 13 111,637 8,587 -68,217 -1,405
Division II Championship Game 1 4,259 4,259 -5,317 -5,317
NCAA DIVISION II TOTALS 168 909 2,975,145 3,273 -241,935 -186
Home Attendance, NCAA Division III & 243 1,225 2,297,267 1,875 -105,606 -83
Division III Neutral-Site Attendance ^ 5 3,478 696 -5,602 -439
Division III Championship Game 1 4,971 4,971 1,495 1,495
NCAA DIVISION III TOTALS 243 1,231 2,305,716 1,873 -109,713 -81
Home Attendance, Reclassifying Teams 3 17 199,433 11,731 63,708 5,830
NATIONAL TOTALS FOR 2017 & 666 3,695 47,622,196 12,888 -1,693,661 -380 <---- all college down 1.7 million -
2017 from the NCAA.....
ALL NCAA TEAMS http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statistics/ncaa-football-attendance
Total
Teams Games Attendance Average
Change In
Total
Change In
Avg.
Home Attendance, Division I-FBS 129 810 34,107,211 42,108 -693,708 -962
FBS Neutral-Site Attendance $ 22 1,262,707 57,396 -352,480 -4,727
FBS Bowl Game Attendance # 40 1,620,253 40,506 -90,171 -1,212
NCAA DIVISION I-FBS TOTALS 129 868 36,632,625 42,203 -1,441,042 -1,409
Home Attendance, Division I-FCS 123 657 5,123,547 7,798 114,123 -17
FCS Neutral-Site Attendance ^$ 12 366,640 30,553 -83,469 -4,071
FCS Championship Game 1 19,090 19,090 4,667 4,667
NCAA DIVISION I-FCS TOTALS 123 670 5,509,277 8,223 35,321 -134
NCAA DIVISION I TOTALS 252 1,538 42,141,902 27,400 -1,405,721 -1,100
Home Attendance, NCAA Division II & 168 895 2,859,249 3,195 -168,401 -128
Division II Neutral-Site Attendance ^$ 13 111,637 8,587 -68,217 -1,405
Division II Championship Game 1 4,259 4,259 -5,317 -5,317
NCAA DIVISION II TOTALS 168 909 2,975,145 3,273 -241,935 -186
Home Attendance, NCAA Division III & 243 1,225 2,297,267 1,875 -105,606 -83
Division III Neutral-Site Attendance ^ 5 3,478 696 -5,602 -439
Division III Championship Game 1 4,971 4,971 1,495 1,495
NCAA DIVISION III TOTALS 243 1,231 2,305,716 1,873 -109,713 -81
Home Attendance, Reclassifying Teams 3 17 199,433 11,731 63,708 5,830
NATIONAL TOTALS FOR 2017 & 666 3,695 47,622,196 12,888 -1,693,661 -380 <---- all college down 1.7 million2017 from the NCAA.....
ALL NCAA TEAMS http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statistics/ncaa-football-attendance
Total
Teams Games Attendance Average
Change In
Total
Change In
Avg.
Home Attendance, Division I-FBS 129 810 34,107,211 42,108 -693,708 -962
FBS Neutral-Site Attendance $ 22 1,262,707 57,396 -352,480 -4,727
FBS Bowl Game Attendance # 40 1,620,253 40,506 -90,171 -1,212
NCAA DIVISION I-FBS TOTALS 129 868 36,632,625 42,203 -1,441,042 -1,409
Home Attendance, Division I-FCS 123 657 5,123,547 7,798 114,123 -17
FCS Neutral-Site Attendance ^$ 12 366,640 30,553 -83,469 -4,071
FCS Championship Game 1 19,090 19,090 4,667 4,667
NCAA DIVISION I-FCS TOTALS 123 670 5,509,277 8,223 35,321 -134
NCAA DIVISION I TOTALS 252 1,538 42,141,902 27,400 -1,405,721 -1,100
Home Attendance, NCAA Division II & 168 895 2,859,249 3,195 -168,401 -128
Division II Neutral-Site Attendance ^$ 13 111,637 8,587 -68,217 -1,405
Division II Championship Game 1 4,259 4,259 -5,317 -5,317
NCAA DIVISION II TOTALS 168 909 2,975,145 3,273 -241,935 -186
Home Attendance, NCAA Division III & 243 1,225 2,297,267 1,875 -105,606 -83
Division III Neutral-Site Attendance ^ 5 3,478 696 -5,602 -439
Division III Championship Game 1 4,971 4,971 1,495 1,495
NCAA DIVISION III TOTALS 243 1,231 2,305,716 1,873 -109,713 -81
Home Attendance, Reclassifying Teams 3 17 199,433 11,731 63,708 5,830
NATIONAL TOTALS FOR 2017 & 666 3,695 47,622,196 12,888 -1,693,661 -380 <---- all college down 1.7 millionCan you interpret this gobbledygook of numbers?
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Outside of the BIG TEN all major conferences were down in 2017:
CONFERENCE ATTENDANCE
1. Southeastern 14 98 7,357,228 75,074 -2,433
2. Big Ten 14 95 6,291,534 66,227 76
3. Big 12 10 65 3,695,374 56,852 -679
4. Pac-12 12 79 3,918,463 49,601 -472
5. Atlantic Coast 14 93 4,505,142 48,442 -1,292Total Home Attendance
No. School Games Attendance Average
1. Michigan 6 669,534 111,589
2. Ohio St. 7 752,464 107,495
3. Penn St. 7 746,946 106,707
4. Alabama 7 712,053 101,722
5. Texas A&M 7 691,612 98,802
6. LSU 6 591,034 98,506
7. Tennessee 7 670,454 95,779
8. Texas 6 556,667 92,778
9. Georgia 6 556,476 92,746~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ oh if it weren't for these big always SOLD OUT mega stadiums it would be worse
10. Nebraska 7 628,583 89,798
11. Florida 6 520,290 86,715
12. Oklahoma 6 519,119 86,520
13. Auburn 7 605,120 86,446
14. Clemson 7 565,412 80,773
15. Wisconsin 7 551,766 78,824
16. South Carolina 7 550,099 78,586
17. Notre Dame 7 543,354 77,622
18. Southern California 7 508,781 72,683
19. Michigan St. 7 507,398 72,485
20. Florida St. 6 425,658 70,943
21. Washington 7 481,755 68,822
22. Iowa 7 464,357 66,337 -
2017 from the NCAA.....
ALL NCAA TEAMS http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statistics/ncaa-football-attendance
Total
Teams Games Attendance Average
Change In
Total
Change In
Avg.
Home Attendance, Division I-FBS 129 810 34,107,211 42,108 -693,708 -962
FBS Neutral-Site Attendance $ 22 1,262,707 57,396 -352,480 -4,727
FBS Bowl Game Attendance # 40 1,620,253 40,506 -90,171 -1,212
NCAA DIVISION I-FBS TOTALS 129 868 36,632,625 42,203 -1,441,042 -1,409
Home Attendance, Division I-FCS 123 657 5,123,547 7,798 114,123 -17
FCS Neutral-Site Attendance ^$ 12 366,640 30,553 -83,469 -4,071
FCS Championship Game 1 19,090 19,090 4,667 4,667
NCAA DIVISION I-FCS TOTALS 123 670 5,509,277 8,223 35,321 -134
NCAA DIVISION I TOTALS 252 1,538 42,141,902 27,400 -1,405,721 -1,100
Home Attendance, NCAA Division II & 168 895 2,859,249 3,195 -168,401 -128
Division II Neutral-Site Attendance ^$ 13 111,637 8,587 -68,217 -1,405
Division II Championship Game 1 4,259 4,259 -5,317 -5,317
NCAA DIVISION II TOTALS 168 909 2,975,145 3,273 -241,935 -186
Home Attendance, NCAA Division III & 243 1,225 2,297,267 1,875 -105,606 -83
Division III Neutral-Site Attendance ^ 5 3,478 696 -5,602 -439
Division III Championship Game 1 4,971 4,971 1,495 1,495
NCAA DIVISION III TOTALS 243 1,231 2,305,716 1,873 -109,713 -81
Home Attendance, Reclassifying Teams 3 17 199,433 11,731 63,708 5,830
NATIONAL TOTALS FOR 2017 & 666 3,695 47,622,196 12,888 -1,693,661 -380 <---- all college down 1.7 millionCan you interpret this gobbledygook of numbers?
Can you interpret this gobbledygook of numbers?
Use the link, it's really self-explanatory. Attendance keeps going down.
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And the NFL is still the big dog, only 16 games each but the bottom half in average home games filleD percentages:
17 New Orleans 8 585,113 73,139 95.6 8 560,933 70,116 94.6 16 1,146,046 71,627 95.1 18 Jacksonville 8 514,427 64,303 95.6 8 535,141 66,892 95.4 16 1,049,568 65,598 95.5 19 Tennessee 8 525,214 65,651 95.0 8 514,905 64,363 95.0 16 1,040,119 65,007 95.0 20 NY Jets 8 620,496 77,562 94.0 8 522,862 65,357 93.5 16 1,143,358 71,459 93.8 21 NY Giants 8 617,434 77,179 93.6 8 565,603 70,700 95.3 16 1,183,037 73,939 94.4 22 Dallas 8 741,775 92,721 92.7 8 567,436 70,929 97.0 16 1,309,211 81,825 94.5 23 Oakland 8 462,201 57,775 91.5 8 527,346 65,918 102.5 16 989,547 61,846 97.0 24 Buffalo 8 534,200 66,775 91.4 8 506,717 63,339 100.5 16 1,040,917 65,057 95.6 25 Minnesota 8 533,769 66,721 91.4 8 566,136 70,767 98.5 16 1,099,905 68,744 94.9 26 Pittsburgh 8 499,768 62,471 91.3 8 536,723 67,090 98.2 16 1,036,491 64,780 94.8 27 Tampa Bay 8 479,618 59,952 91.0 8 557,343 69,667 97.0 16 1,036,961 64,810 94.1 28 Washington 8 601,405 75,175 88.4 8 536,234 67,029 94.8 16 1,137,639 71,102 91.3 29 Cleveland 8 511,060 63,882 87.3 8 456,947 57,118 98.2 16 968,007 60,500 92.1 30 Cincinnati 8 426,207 53,275 81.3 8 552,316 69,039 96.7 16 978,523 61,157 89.3 31 Los Angeles 8 507,136 63,392 67.7 8 555,125 69,390 93.7 16 1,062,261 66,391 79. -
And the NFL is still the big dog, only 16 games each but the bottom half in average home games filleD percentages:
17 New Orleans 8 585,113 73,139 95.6 8 560,933 70,116 94.6 16 1,146,046 71,627 95.1 18 Jacksonville 8 514,427 64,303 95.6 8 535,141 66,892 95.4 16 1,049,568 65,598 95.5 19 Tennessee 8 525,214 65,651 95.0 8 514,905 64,363 95.0 16 1,040,119 65,007 95.0 20 NY Jets 8 620,496 77,562 94.0 8 522,862 65,357 93.5 16 1,143,358 71,459 93.8 21 NY Giants 8 617,434 77,179 93.6 8 565,603 70,700 95.3 16 1,183,037 73,939 94.4 22 Dallas 8 741,775 92,721 92.7 8 567,436 70,929 97.0 16 1,309,211 81,825 94.5 23 Oakland 8 462,201 57,775 91.5 8 527,346 65,918 102.5 16 989,547 61,846 97.0 24 Buffalo 8 534,200 66,775 91.4 8 506,717 63,339 100.5 16 1,040,917 65,057 95.6 25 Minnesota 8 533,769 66,721 91.4 8 566,136 70,767 98.5 16 1,099,905 68,744 94.9 26 Pittsburgh 8 499,768 62,471 91.3 8 536,723 67,090 98.2 16 1,036,491 64,780 94.8 27 Tampa Bay 8 479,618 59,952 91.0 8 557,343 69,667 97.0 16 1,036,961 64,810 94.1 28 Washington 8 601,405 75,175 88.4 8 536,234 67,029 94.8 16 1,137,639 71,102 91.3 29 Cleveland 8 511,060 63,882 87.3 8 456,947 57,118 98.2 16 968,007 60,500 92.1 30 Cincinnati 8 426,207 53,275 81.3 8 552,316 69,039 96.7 16 978,523 61,157 89.3 31 Los Angeles 8 507,136 63,392 67.7 8 555,125 69,390 93.7 16 1,062,261 66,391 79. And the NFL is still the big dog, only 16 games each but the bottom half in average home games filleD percentages:
17 New Orleans 8 585,113 73,139 95.6 8 560,933 70,116 94.6 16 1,146,046 71,627 95.1 18 Jacksonville 8 514,427 64,303 95.6 8 535,141 66,892 95.4 16 1,049,568 65,598 95.5 19 Tennessee 8 525,214 65,651 95.0 8 514,905 64,363 95.0 16 1,040,119 65,007 95.0 20 NY Jets 8 620,496 77,562 94.0 8 522,862 65,357 93.5 16 1,143,358 71,459 93.8 21 NY Giants 8 617,434 77,179 93.6 8 565,603 70,700 95.3 16 1,183,037 73,939 94.4 22 Dallas 8 741,775 92,721 92.7 8 567,436 70,929 97.0 16 1,309,211 81,825 94.5 23 Oakland 8 462,201 57,775 91.5 8 527,346 65,918 102.5 16 989,547 61,846 97.0 24 Buffalo 8 534,200 66,775 91.4 8 506,717 63,339 100.5 16 1,040,917 65,057 95.6 25 Minnesota 8 533,769 66,721 91.4 8 566,136 70,767 98.5 16 1,099,905 68,744 94.9 26 Pittsburgh 8 499,768 62,471 91.3 8 536,723 67,090 98.2 16 1,036,491 64,780 94.8 27 Tampa Bay 8 479,618 59,952 91.0 8 557,343 69,667 97.0 16 1,036,961 64,810 94.1 28 Washington 8 601,405 75,175 88.4 8 536,234 67,029 94.8 16 1,137,639 71,102 91.3 29 Cleveland 8 511,060 63,882 87.3 8 456,947 57,118 98.2 16 968,007 60,500 92.1 30 Cincinnati 8 426,207 53,275 81.3 8 552,316 69,039 96.7 16 978,523 61,157 89.3 31 Los Angeles 8 507,136 63,392 67.7 8 555,125 69,390 93.7 16 1,062,261 66,391 79. Maybe you should provide the link on this as well.
Nevertheless....I believe these statistics are miniscule.
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And the NFL is still the big dog, only 16 games each but the bottom half in average home games filleD percentages:
17 New Orleans 8 585,113 73,139 95.6 8 560,933 70,116 94.6 16 1,146,046 71,627 95.1 18 Jacksonville 8 514,427 64,303 95.6 8 535,141 66,892 95.4 16 1,049,568 65,598 95.5 19 Tennessee 8 525,214 65,651 95.0 8 514,905 64,363 95.0 16 1,040,119 65,007 95.0 20 NY Jets 8 620,496 77,562 94.0 8 522,862 65,357 93.5 16 1,143,358 71,459 93.8 21 NY Giants 8 617,434 77,179 93.6 8 565,603 70,700 95.3 16 1,183,037 73,939 94.4 22 Dallas 8 741,775 92,721 92.7 8 567,436 70,929 97.0 16 1,309,211 81,825 94.5 23 Oakland 8 462,201 57,775 91.5 8 527,346 65,918 102.5 16 989,547 61,846 97.0 24 Buffalo 8 534,200 66,775 91.4 8 506,717 63,339 100.5 16 1,040,917 65,057 95.6 25 Minnesota 8 533,769 66,721 91.4 8 566,136 70,767 98.5 16 1,099,905 68,744 94.9 26 Pittsburgh 8 499,768 62,471 91.3 8 536,723 67,090 98.2 16 1,036,491 64,780 94.8 27 Tampa Bay 8 479,618 59,952 91.0 8 557,343 69,667 97.0 16 1,036,961 64,810 94.1 28 Washington 8 601,405 75,175 88.4 8 536,234 67,029 94.8 16 1,137,639 71,102 91.3 29 Cleveland 8 511,060 63,882 87.3 8 456,947 57,118 98.2 16 968,007 60,500 92.1 30 Cincinnati 8 426,207 53,275 81.3 8 552,316 69,039 96.7 16 978,523 61,157 89.3 31 Los Angeles 8 507,136 63,392 67.7 8 555,125 69,390 93.7 16 1,062,261 66,391 79. Maybe you should provide the link on this as well.
Nevertheless....I believe these statistics are miniscule.
Maybe you should provide the link on this as well.
Nevertheless....I believe these statistics are miniscule.
2017 nfl attendance - ESPN - http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance/_/sort/homePct
It shows the top 9 NFL teams are running at 100% plus on home attendance but with only 8 home games per year they better do well.....and what's going on with pittsburger at #26 and 91%? And yes those stats are miniscule UNLESS they keep going down......and teams lie or stretch attendance numbers! Is JAX at 95%?
The NFL is still drawing but high school and college are not doing as well live.
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Maybe you should provide the link on this as well.
Nevertheless....I believe these statistics are miniscule.
2017 nfl attendance - ESPN - http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance/_/sort/homePct
It shows the top 9 NFL teams are running at 100% plus on home attendance but with only 8 home games per year they better do well.....and what's going on with pittsburger at #26 and 91%? And yes those stats are miniscule UNLESS they keep going down......and teams lie or stretch attendance numbers! Is JAX at 95%?
The NFL is still drawing but high school and college are not doing as well live.
2017 nfl attendance - ESPN - http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance/_/sort/homePct
It shows the top 9 NFL teams are running at 100% plus on home attendance but with only 8 home games per year they better do well.....and what's going on with pittsburger at #26 and 91%? And yes those stats are miniscule UNLESS they keep going down......and teams lie or stretch attendance numbers! Is JAX at 95%?
The NFL is still drawing but high school and college are not doing as well live.
So maybe you should just give up watching then going to football games if you're so worried about it
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2017 nfl attendance - ESPN - http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance/_/sort/homePct
It shows the top 9 NFL teams are running at 100% plus on home attendance but with only 8 home games per year they better do well.....and what's going on with pittsburger at #26 and 91%? And yes those stats are miniscule UNLESS they keep going down......and teams lie or stretch attendance numbers! Is JAX at 95%?
The NFL is still drawing but high school and college are not doing as well live.
So maybe you should just give up watching then going to football games if you're so worried about it
So maybe you should just give up watching then going to football games if you're so worried about it
I'm not worried about it one bit.....just discussing fans and fan bases, besides I have a better seat at home.
Actually I've seen countless Indians games at the Ol' Muni from 1959-1980s closing and a LOT of Browns games throughout time.
.......I kind of liked that Ol' Dump.
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