Steelers writer Ed Bouchette
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if that happens it'll be because the north has gone down completely into the shtter. u dont turn around that shtshow from the past 2 years into a division winner without major help from ur fellow div teams
Under Dorsey's watch with Alex Tyrod Smith brought in HE Chiefs went from 2-14 to 11-5 in one season. It can and does happen. This team IMO is well positioned to shock the hell out of people.
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if that happens it'll be because the north has gone down completely into the shtter. u dont turn around that shtshow from the past 2 years into a division winner without major help from ur fellow div teams
Under Dorsey's watch with Alex Tyrod Smith brought in HE Chiefs went from 2-14 to 11-5 in one season. It can and does happen. This team IMO is well positioned to shock the hell out of people.
Under Dorsey's watch with Alex Tyrod Smith brought in HE Chiefs went from 2-14 to 11-5 in one season. It can and does happen. This team IMO is well positioned to shock the hell out of people.
please beleive me when i say 11-5 would give me diamond cutting nips. I just dont see it. Furthermore, im not going to heighten my expectations. We do this every year. So naturally when we suck everyones like "fire everybody". 5-11, with a good chunk of those 11 losses being at least close......im jerking off to 5-11. Thats the ceiling for this team imho
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every year u guys predict a playoff appearance so when it doesnt happen ur all so mad u cant see where we did make improvements. cause ur so mad.
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He was being interviewed on Sirius last week. He said he believes that the Browns will beat the Steelers in the home opener by 3 or more. Found it interesting their reporter taking that stance.
He was being interviewed on Sirius last week. He said he believes that the Browns will beat the Steelers in the home opener by 3 or more. Found it interesting their reporter taking that stance.
Been calling it for months. Its going to be a must see game of the day.
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Been calling it for months. Its going to be a must see game of the day.
Boo and Mel Kiper Jr, my two favorite prognosticators EVER!
........well three if you count Punxsutawney Phil.
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Been calling it for months. Its going to be a must see game of the day.
Boo and Mel Kiper Jr, my two favorite prognosticators EVER!
........well three if you count Punxsutawney Phil.
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No because the Browns are going to be good this season.
They bether be much improved but with that schedule. 500 would be grounds for another parade......still would be nice.
QUESTIONS: Has the rest of the AFCN slipped enough where the BROWNS can win/steal 3 or 4 there?
Can the BROWNS win more than 1 out every 4 games in the 2018 schedule?
Inquiring minds want to know.
They bether be much improved but with that schedule. 500 would be grounds for another parade......still would be nice.
QUESTIONS: Has the rest of the AFCN slipped enough where the BROWNS can win/steal 3 or 4 there?
Can the BROWNS win more than 1 out every 4 games in the 2018 schedule?
Inquiring minds want to know.
I think the Browns have caught up to the Ravens and Bengals. Ben is still the best QB in the AFCN, but they still have Tomlin who is wasting Bens best years.
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They bether be much improved but with that schedule. 500 would be grounds for another parade......still would be nice.
QUESTIONS: Has the rest of the AFCN slipped enough where the BROWNS can win/steal 3 or 4 there?
Can the BROWNS win more than 1 out every 4 games in the 2018 schedule?
Inquiring minds want to know.
I think the Browns have caught up to the Ravens and Bengals. Ben is still the best QB in the AFCN, but they still have Tomlin who is wasting Bens best years.
I think the Browns have caught up to the Ravens and Bengals. Ben is still the best QB in the AFCN, but they still have Tomlin who is wasting Bens best years.
By getting him to two Super Bowls and putting him in offense that maximizes his skills surrounded by playmakers?
Zombo
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I think the Browns have caught up to the Ravens and Bengals. Ben is still the best QB in the AFCN, but they still have Tomlin who is wasting Bens best years.
By getting him to two Super Bowls and putting him in offense that maximizes his skills surrounded by playmakers?
Zombo
Zombo said:
By getting him to two Super Bowls and putting him in offense that maximizes his skills surrounded by playmakers?
Zombo
Tomlin is a fvcking jackass. Haley was his scapegoat.
One trophy with a first ballot HOF QB. Harbawl has that many with Flacco.
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Zombo said:
By getting him to two Super Bowls and putting him in offense that maximizes his skills surrounded by playmakers?
Zombo
Tomlin is a fvcking jackass. Haley was his scapegoat.
One trophy with a first ballot HOF QB. Harbawl has that many with Flacco.
Tomlin is a fvcking jackass. Haley was his scapegoat.
One trophy with a first ballot HOF QB. Harbawl has that many with Flacco.
OK, so, he's 116-60. Two Super Bowls, One ring. 8-7 in the postseason.
Poor Ben has been stuck in a Top Ten offense four straight years, Top five passing game past three years.
Tomlin has made the playoffs eight times in eleven years, never had a losing season.
He is 5th in active coaches in wins, He is second to active coaches in winning percentage , trailing only Belichick.
But he's a jackass.
Hope Hugh Jackson turns into a jackass.
Zombo
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Tomlin is a fvcking jackass. Haley was his scapegoat.
One trophy with a first ballot HOF QB. Harbawl has that many with Flacco.
OK, so, he's 116-60. Two Super Bowls, One ring. 8-7 in the postseason.
Poor Ben has been stuck in a Top Ten offense four straight years, Top five passing game past three years.
Tomlin has made the playoffs eight times in eleven years, never had a losing season.
He is 5th in active coaches in wins, He is second to active coaches in winning percentage , trailing only Belichick.
But he's a jackass.
Hope Hugh Jackson turns into a jackass.
Zombo
Zombo said:
OK, so, he's 116-60. Two Super Bowls, One ring. 8-7 in the postseason.
Poor Ben has been stuck in a Top Ten offense four straight years, Top five passing game past three years.
Tomlin has made the playoffs eight times in eleven years, never had a losing season.
He is 5th in active coaches in wins, He is second to active coaches in winning percentage , trailing only Belichick.
But he's a jackass.
Hope Hugh Jackson turns into a jackass.
Zombo
Right, I will take that kind of jackass. I mean, it is true that a winning coach CAN be a jackass....see Bill Belichick, and it helps that he has an HOF caliber QB. That always helps., but it is only a part of it.
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Hopefully for us old, old boomer browns boosters big Ben will finally crack up some this year. L. Bell doesn't have a stellar year and most importantly my FL WR A. Brown who is instant offense continues to show his age and injuries......I know a guy who can rack up 30-40 FL points sits out your replacement gets 12-14 you lose!
The steelrz didn't exactly anililate the BROWNS last year despite everything the BROWNS could have stole one easily.
So Santa now you know what we want for Christmas, you can start delivering in September.
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Tomlin is a fvcking jackass. Haley was his scapegoat.
One trophy with a first ballot HOF QB. Harbawl has that many with Flacco.
OK, so, he's 116-60. Two Super Bowls, One ring. 8-7 in the postseason.
Poor Ben has been stuck in a Top Ten offense four straight years, Top five passing game past three years.
Tomlin has made the playoffs eight times in eleven years, never had a losing season.
He is 5th in active coaches in wins, He is second to active coaches in winning percentage , trailing only Belichick.
But he's a jackass.
Hope Hugh Jackson turns into a jackass.
Zombo
Zombo said:
OK, so, he's 116-60. Two Super Bowls, One ring. 8-7 in the postseason.
Poor Ben has been stuck in a Top Ten offense four straight years, Top five passing game past three years.
Tomlin has made the playoffs eight times in eleven years, never had a losing season.
He is 5th in active coaches in wins, He is second to active coaches in winning percentage , trailing only Belichick.
But he's a jackass.
Hope Hugh Jackson turns into a jackass.
Zombo
8 - 7 in the post season sucks with a 1st ballot HOF QB. Tomlin is hanging by a thread to stay above .500.
3 years out of 11 missed the post season
4 years out of 11 lost in the 1st round.
7 years or 63% of Tomlins post season career amount to 0 post season wins.
1 year lost Divisional round
1 year lost AFC Championship.
2 AFC Championships wins
Tomlin is 66% in AFC Championships.
1 Super Bowl loss
1 Super Bowl win.
Tomlin is .500 in Super Bowls
Bens passing numbers improved because of Haley. The Steelers GM keeps going out there and finding stud players for Ben. Tomlins job is to convert all that into Lombardi trophies something that he has failed to do 10 times out of 11.
No, you do not want Hue to be like Tomlin and Sheet the bed every season. Trust me on that. Making the playoffs gets old losing every damn year.
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yeah, gets so old. making those playoffs every year. what fan base wants their team playing meaninful games in january, fuk my as-ss running eh? i mean the curling season is in full swing by then, who needs football hanging around as a distraction?
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Zombo said:
OK, so, he's 116-60. Two Super Bowls, One ring. 8-7 in the postseason.
Poor Ben has been stuck in a Top Ten offense four straight years, Top five passing game past three years.
Tomlin has made the playoffs eight times in eleven years, never had a losing season.
He is 5th in active coaches in wins, He is second to active coaches in winning percentage , trailing only Belichick.
But he's a jackass.
Hope Hugh Jackson turns into a jackass.
Zombo
8 - 7 in the post season sucks with a 1st ballot HOF QB. Tomlin is hanging by a thread to stay above .500.
3 years out of 11 missed the post season
4 years out of 11 lost in the 1st round.
7 years or 63% of Tomlins post season career amount to 0 post season wins.
1 year lost Divisional round
1 year lost AFC Championship.
2 AFC Championships wins
Tomlin is 66% in AFC Championships.
1 Super Bowl loss
1 Super Bowl win.
Tomlin is .500 in Super Bowls
Bens passing numbers improved because of Haley. The Steelers GM keeps going out there and finding stud players for Ben. Tomlins job is to convert all that into Lombardi trophies something that he has failed to do 10 times out of 11.
No, you do not want Hue to be like Tomlin and Sheet the bed every season. Trust me on that. Making the playoffs gets old losing every damn year.
8 - 7 in the post season sucks with a 1st ballot HOF QB. Tomlin is hanging by a thread to stay above .500.
3 years out of 11 missed the post season
4 years out of 11 lost in the 1st round.
7 years or 63% of Tomlins post season career amount to 0 post season wins.
1 year lost Divisional round
1 year lost AFC Championship.
2 AFC Championships wins
Tomlin is 66% in AFC Championships.
1 Super Bowl loss
1 Super Bowl win.
Tomlin is .500 in Super Bowls
Bens passing numbers improved because of Haley. The Steelers GM keeps going out there and finding stud players for Ben. Tomlins job is to convert all that into Lombardi trophies something that he has failed to do 10 times out of 11.
No, you do not want Hue to be like Tomlin and Sheet the bed every season. Trust me on that. Making the playoffs gets old losing every damn year.
It's not easy to be above .500 in the postseason.
Coach's get measured by wins and losses. Tomlin has a better win pct than 30 of the other 31 coaches... but that's not good enough for you.
Apparently Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy blow too, because they only have one championship with a HOF QB too.
I guess if you're not Belichick ... you blow.
Z
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8 - 7 in the post season sucks with a 1st ballot HOF QB. Tomlin is hanging by a thread to stay above .500.
3 years out of 11 missed the post season
4 years out of 11 lost in the 1st round.
7 years or 63% of Tomlins post season career amount to 0 post season wins.
1 year lost Divisional round
1 year lost AFC Championship.
2 AFC Championships wins
Tomlin is 66% in AFC Championships.
1 Super Bowl loss
1 Super Bowl win.
Tomlin is .500 in Super Bowls
Bens passing numbers improved because of Haley. The Steelers GM keeps going out there and finding stud players for Ben. Tomlins job is to convert all that into Lombardi trophies something that he has failed to do 10 times out of 11.
No, you do not want Hue to be like Tomlin and Sheet the bed every season. Trust me on that. Making the playoffs gets old losing every damn year.
It's not easy to be above .500 in the postseason.
Coach's get measured by wins and losses. Tomlin has a better win pct than 30 of the other 31 coaches... but that's not good enough for you.
Apparently Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy blow too, because they only have one championship with a HOF QB too.
I guess if you're not Belichick ... you blow.
Z
Zombo said:
It's not easy to be above .500 in the postseason.
Coach's get measured by wins and losses. Tomlin has a better win pct than 30 of the other 31 coaches... but that's not good enough for you.
Apparently Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy blow too, because they only have one championship with a HOF QB too.
I guess if you're not Belichick ... you blow.
Z
The great coaches and franchises are measured by Championships.
If Bens goes out with only 1 ring it will be a travesty. Same for Brees and Rodgers. Those kind of QBs come around once in a lifetime. The Saints landed in serious cap trouble after winning their Super Bowl and had to jettison good players, but they are back.
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Zombo said:
It's not easy to be above .500 in the postseason.
Coach's get measured by wins and losses. Tomlin has a better win pct than 30 of the other 31 coaches... but that's not good enough for you.
Apparently Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy blow too, because they only have one championship with a HOF QB too.
I guess if you're not Belichick ... you blow.
Z
The great coaches and franchises are measured by Championships.
If Bens goes out with only 1 ring it will be a travesty. Same for Brees and Rodgers. Those kind of QBs come around once in a lifetime. The Saints landed in serious cap trouble after winning their Super Bowl and had to jettison good players, but they are back.
The great coaches and franchises are measured by Championships.
If Bens goes out with only 1 ring it will be a travesty. Same for Brees and Rodgers. Those kind of QBs come around once in a lifetime. The Saints landed in serious cap trouble after winning their Super Bowl and had to jettison good players, but they are back.
They're back ... Tomlin's Steelers never left.
Just because you have a Hall of Fame QB doesnt mean you have to win multiple championships.
I am no Steeler fan. Not making an argument that Mike Tomlin is a HOF coach or anything ... Just saying hes NOT a jackass holding Ben's career back.
Shula, a proven champion and one of the greatest coaches of all time never won a SB with Dan Marino one of the greatest QBs of all time.
Bud Grant ... Fran Tarkenton.
Don Coryell ... Dan Fouts
All Jackasses.
The guy's been to two Super Bowls and wins every year and you're bitching .... We're just trying to win a football game.
Z
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Zombo said:
It's not easy to be above .500 in the postseason.
Coach's get measured by wins and losses. Tomlin has a better win pct than 30 of the other 31 coaches... but that's not good enough for you.
Apparently Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy blow too, because they only have one championship with a HOF QB too.
I guess if you're not Belichick ... you blow.
Z
The great coaches and franchises are measured by Championships.
If Bens goes out with only 1 ring it will be a travesty. Same for Brees and Rodgers. Those kind of QBs come around once in a lifetime. The Saints landed in serious cap trouble after winning their Super Bowl and had to jettison good players, but they are back.
The great coaches and franchises are measured by Championships.
If Bens goes out with only 1 ring it will be a travesty. Same for Brees and Rodgers. Those kind of QBs come around once in a lifetime. The Saints landed in serious cap trouble after winning their Super Bowl and had to jettison good players, but they are back.
FYI Ben or already has two rings. (I wager he gets no more)
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The great coaches and franchises are measured by Championships.
If Bens goes out with only 1 ring it will be a travesty. Same for Brees and Rodgers. Those kind of QBs come around once in a lifetime. The Saints landed in serious cap trouble after winning their Super Bowl and had to jettison good players, but they are back.
They're back ... Tomlin's Steelers never left.
Just because you have a Hall of Fame QB doesnt mean you have to win multiple championships.
I am no Steeler fan. Not making an argument that Mike Tomlin is a HOF coach or anything ... Just saying hes NOT a jackass holding Ben's career back.
Shula, a proven champion and one of the greatest coaches of all time never won a SB with Dan Marino one of the greatest QBs of all time.
Bud Grant ... Fran Tarkenton.
Don Coryell ... Dan Fouts
All Jackasses.
The guy's been to two Super Bowls and wins every year and you're bitching .... We're just trying to win a football game.
Z
Zombo said:
They're back ... Tomlin's Steelers never left.
Just because you have a Hall of Fame QB doesnt mean you have to win multiple championships.
I am no Steeler fan. Not making an argument that Mike Tomlin is a HOF coach or anything ... Just saying hes NOT a jackass holding Ben's career back.
Shula, a proven champion and one of the greatest coaches of all time never won a SB with Dan Marino one of the greatest QBs of all time.
Bud Grant ... Fran Tarkenton.
Don Coryell ... Dan Fouts
All Jackasses.
The guy's been to two Super Bowls and wins every year and you're bitching .... We're just trying to win a football game.
Z
Im no Steelers fan, but I can recognize who is screwing things up and its not Ben. Love him or hate him the Ben makes plays out of nothing. The least of the Steelers problems is the QB which is the most important player on the team. Without one, you're not winning jack sheet. Dont take it from me that Tomlin is an idiot, Terry Bradshaw has no faith him and calls him a glorified cheerleader. Do you see a great defensive guru over there on the Steelers sidelines or playcalling genius? Because I dont and only see a guy who sticks his jaw out and talks tough like he is a badass. When you are not ready at your own house for the Jacksonville Jaguars last post season that is on the head coach.
If Haley was not offered up as the sacrificial lamb then the powers that be wanted Tomlin out. Why? Because they have a Super Bowl team and cant win a damn post season game. 7 times its happened.
You wont understand that anything short of a world championship is failure until the Browns win the first Super Bowl and have the team to do it. After you fly 1st class just having a seat on the plane is not good enough. Winning in the regular season is meaningless for a handful of teams like Steelers, Patriots, Packers, Saints, Cowboys, Ohio State, Alabama.
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