Dez on his way ?
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It’s interesting how the collective media narrative of Dez Bryant possibly playing for the Browns has moved from a firm “hell no” to a “mmmm...maybe?” in a short span of time.
At first he wanted to play for a contender, and he was a headcase with declining abilities, and that was like last week. And now he’s an insurance policy for Josh Gordon with an incredible work ethic who is only a headcase because he wants to win so bad.
Just interesting to see the media about face in this. I suppose from Bryant’s perspective, training camp has started and he’s running out of options.
Yeah, that about sums it up. He's at the point where OchoCinco was when he showed up to NE with the impact of NoShowCinco.
Yeah, that about sums it up. He's at the point where OchoCinco was when he showed up to NE with the impact of NoShowCinco.
Ocho Stinko could not learn the playbook. Dim Bulb lined up wrong in the Super Bowl after 18 games and when NE was desperate and had to play him.
They must have drawn plays in the dirt over at Cinci. Go to the cheerleaders and cut across on three.
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Oh yes, there's a reason some used cars just sit on car lots, there's a reason some houses don't sell, there's a reason penny stocks are penny stocks......until some sucker comes along to buy them.
(some of my old favorite sayings
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Exactly! We're not that far removed from wasting 12 million $ on quick sand named Dwayne Bowe. Then we rinsed and repeated with the brat named Britt. Before all that, we thought we stole Davon Bess away from Miami - only to be left feeling like we got the next Tony Montana...
I hope we're finally done wasting time and money on WRs with their best days in the rear view mirror.
Exactly! We're not that far removed from wasting 12 million $ on quick sand named Dwayne Bowe. Then we rinsed and repeated with the brat named Britt. Before all that, we thought we stole Davon Bess away from Miami - only to be left feeling like we got the next Tony Montana...
I hope we're finally done wasting time and money on WRs with their best days in the rear view mirror.
Britt had Kizer throwing to the other team.
Gordon is a glass pipe full of crack away from starting in the CFL with Johnny Football.
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Sign him.
Rolling that cap money to 2019 is not a commitment to contend for the division.
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Exactly! We're not that far removed from wasting 12 million $ on quick sand named Dwayne Bowe. Then we rinsed and repeated with the brat named Britt. Before all that, we thought we stole Davon Bess away from Miami - only to be left feeling like we got the next Tony Montana...
I hope we're finally done wasting time and money on WRs with their best days in the rear view mirror.
Britt had Kizer throwing to the other team.
Gordon is a glass pipe full of crack away from starting in the CFL with Johnny Football.
Britt had Kizer throwing to the other team.
Because Britt didn't get open or care to. He also had an experienced Tom Brady preferring to throw the ball to guys willing to break a sweat to get open. Let's not overthink this Boo. Britt has already found reasons to miss training camp practices. The only reason Britt still has a job for the first 4 weeks of the 2018 regular season is because Julian Edelman is suspended for PEDs.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Britt and bowe should have one of those late night info commercials late at night.
"How to make milions while doing nothing!!!"
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Can see them in the commercial sitting on the boat with hot chicks sipping champagne. Selling lean how to seminars on disc for 20 nicks a pop.
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Britt had Kizer throwing to the other team.
Because Britt didn't get open or care to. He also had an experienced Tom Brady preferring to throw the ball to guys willing to break a sweat to get open. Let's not overthink this Boo. Britt has already found reasons to miss training camp practices. The only reason Britt still has a job for the first 4 weeks of the 2018 regular season is because Julian Edelman is suspended for PEDs.
Because Britt didn't get open or care to. He also had an experienced Tom Brady preferring to throw the ball to guys willing to break a sweat to get open. Let's not overthink this Boo. Britt has already found reasons to miss training camp practices. The only reason Britt still has a job for the first 4 weeks of the 2018 regular season is because Julian Edelman is suspended for PEDs.
Hard to get open when you dont know where the ball is going.
Briit had to learn a new offense last season after being cut. 2016, his 3rd year in the Rams offense - 1000 yards, 5 TDs and 2 100 yard games. Briit tweaked a hamstring and landed on PUP. He is definitely in the Pats plans and not because of Edelman.
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Because Britt didn't get open or care to. He also had an experienced Tom Brady preferring to throw the ball to guys willing to break a sweat to get open. Let's not overthink this Boo. Britt has already found reasons to miss training camp practices. The only reason Britt still has a job for the first 4 weeks of the 2018 regular season is because Julian Edelman is suspended for PEDs.
Hard to get open when you dont know where the ball is going.
Briit had to learn a new offense last season after being cut. 2016, his 3rd year in the Rams offense - 1000 yards, 5 TDs and 2 100 yard games. Briit tweaked a hamstring and landed on PUP. He is definitely in the Pats plans and not because of Edelman.
Hard to get open when you dont know where the ball is going.
Briit had to learn a new offense last season after being cut. 2016, his 3rd year in the Rams offense - 1000 yards, 5 TDs and 2 100 yard games. Briit tweaked a hamstring and landed on PUP. He is definitely in the Pats plans and not because of Edelman.
Good WRs don't have a hard time getting open. Bad ones do. You can put your Lancelot armor on for NE all you want Boo. It doesn't change if you have a specified 7 route or 9 route called for the WR - he's expected to run the route (unless they have an audible or predetermined route adjustment) and get open. The film will show who didn't get it done. The receiver doesn't say "the QB won't be able to get it there so here's 2 middle fingers - I'm running a 4 route instead." It doesn't work like that.
I lived in Nashville for 11 years and was there the entire time Kenny Britt rarely justified the 1st round pick. He was arrested in 2011 in NJ. In 2012 he was arrested again in NJ and charged with resisting arrest.
Anyway, here's the career stats of the guy you're arguing about:
2017 3 Games 2 receptions for 23 yds 0 TD in NE 9 Games 18 Rec 233 yds 2 TDs in CLE
2016 15 Games 68 rec 1002 yds 5 TD Rams
2015 16 Games 36 rec 681 yds 3 TD Rams
2014 16 Games 48 rec 748 yds 3 TD Rams
2013 12 Games 11 rec 96 yds 0 TD TN
2012 14 Games 45 rec 589 yds 4 TD TN
2011 3 Games 17 rec 289 yds 3 TD TN
2010 12 Games 42 rec 775 yds 9 TD TN
2009 16 Games 42 rec 701 yds 3 TD TN
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Are we really arguing if Kenny Britt is garbage?
The answer is yes.
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Because Britt didn't get open or care to. He also had an experienced Tom Brady preferring to throw the ball to guys willing to break a sweat to get open. Let's not overthink this Boo. Britt has already found reasons to miss training camp practices. The only reason Britt still has a job for the first 4 weeks of the 2018 regular season is because Julian Edelman is suspended for PEDs.
Hard to get open when you dont know where the ball is going.
Briit had to learn a new offense last season after being cut. 2016, his 3rd year in the Rams offense - 1000 yards, 5 TDs and 2 100 yard games. Briit tweaked a hamstring and landed on PUP. He is definitely in the Pats plans and not because of Edelman.
Hard to get open when you dont know where the ball is going.
In a world where Belichick always says "do your job" and an experienced Tom Brady was his QB - your Kenny Britt had 2 receptions for 23 yards in 3 games.
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Are we really arguing if Kenny Britt is garbage?
The answer is yes.
Are we really arguing if Kenny Britt is garbage?
The answer is yes.
No, Boo is just trying to argue that garbage doesn't stink in NE.
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Hard to get open when you dont know where the ball is going.
Briit had to learn a new offense last season after being cut. 2016, his 3rd year in the Rams offense - 1000 yards, 5 TDs and 2 100 yard games. Briit tweaked a hamstring and landed on PUP. He is definitely in the Pats plans and not because of Edelman.
Good WRs don't have a hard time getting open. Bad ones do. You can put your Lancelot armor on for NE all you want Boo. It doesn't change if you have a specified 7 route or 9 route called for the WR - he's expected to run the route (unless they have an audible or predetermined route adjustment) and get open. The film will show who didn't get it done. The receiver doesn't say "the QB won't be able to get it there so here's 2 middle fingers - I'm running a 4 route instead." It doesn't work like that.
I lived in Nashville for 11 years and was there the entire time Kenny Britt rarely justified the 1st round pick. He was arrested in 2011 in NJ. In 2012 he was arrested again in NJ and charged with resisting arrest.
Anyway, here's the career stats of the guy you're arguing about:
2017 3 Games 2 receptions for 23 yds 0 TD in NE 9 Games 18 Rec 233 yds 2 TDs in CLE
2016 15 Games 68 rec 1002 yds 5 TD Rams
2015 16 Games 36 rec 681 yds 3 TD Rams
2014 16 Games 48 rec 748 yds 3 TD Rams
2013 12 Games 11 rec 96 yds 0 TD TN
2012 14 Games 45 rec 589 yds 4 TD TN
2011 3 Games 17 rec 289 yds 3 TD TN
2010 12 Games 42 rec 775 yds 9 TD TN
2009 16 Games 42 rec 701 yds 3 TD TN
Good WRs don't have a hard time getting open. Bad ones do. You can put your Lancelot armor on for NE all you want Boo. It doesn't change if you have a specified 7 route or 9 route called for the WR - he's expected to run the route (unless they have an audible or predetermined route adjustment) and get open. The film will show who didn't get it done. The receiver doesn't say "the QB won't be able to get it there so here's 2 middle fingers - I'm running a 4 route instead." It doesn't work like that.
I lived in Nashville for 11 years and was there the entire time Kenny Britt rarely justified the 1st round pick. He was arrested in 2011 in NJ. In 2012 he was arrested again in NJ and charged with resisting arrest.
Anyway, here's the career stats of the guy you're arguing about:
2017 3 Games 2 receptions for 23 yds 0 TD in NE 9 Games 18 Rec 233 yds 2 TDs in CLE
2016 15 Games 68 rec 1002 yds 5 TD Rams
2015 16 Games 36 rec 681 yds 3 TD Rams
2014 16 Games 48 rec 748 yds 3 TD Rams
2013 12 Games 11 rec 96 yds 0 TD TN
2012 14 Games 45 rec 589 yds 4 TD TN
2011 3 Games 17 rec 289 yds 3 TD TN
2010 12 Games 42 rec 775 yds 9 TD TN
2009 16 Games 42 rec 701 yds 3 TD TN
Kizer led the NFL in INTs with 22. How many more were dropped by the defense.
Lots of offenses dont have specified routes called. Its read and react how the defense is playing you after the ball is snapped. Just because a defense lines up a certain way pre snap does not mean that is the coverage.
2016 Britt didnt have any problem getting open and catching the ball after 3 years in the Rams offense and with only Case Keenum throwing the ball. Britt must have clicked with Keenum and thats important. You watched a new QB in Tennessee every year.
09 Young
10 Collins
11 Hasselbeck
12 Locker
13 Fitzpatrick
14 Mettenberger
Continuity with the same QB has a lot to do with success. Randy Moss stunk in Oakland with that cast of misfits.
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Hard to get open when you dont know where the ball is going.
In a world where Belichick always says "do your job" and an experienced Tom Brady was his QB - your Kenny Britt had 2 receptions for 23 yards in 3 games.
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Are we really arguing if Kenny Britt is garbage?
The answer is yes.
No, Boo is just trying to argue that garbage doesn't stink in NE.
No, Boo is just trying to argue that garbage doesn't stink in NE.
But somehow 2016 Britt racked up 1000 yards and 5 TDs.
2017 Larry Fitzgerald 1156 yards and 6 TDs. Garbage.
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Good WRs don't have a hard time getting open. Bad ones do. You can put your Lancelot armor on for NE all you want Boo. It doesn't change if you have a specified 7 route or 9 route called for the WR - he's expected to run the route (unless they have an audible or predetermined route adjustment) and get open. The film will show who didn't get it done. The receiver doesn't say "the QB won't be able to get it there so here's 2 middle fingers - I'm running a 4 route instead." It doesn't work like that.
I lived in Nashville for 11 years and was there the entire time Kenny Britt rarely justified the 1st round pick. He was arrested in 2011 in NJ. In 2012 he was arrested again in NJ and charged with resisting arrest.
Anyway, here's the career stats of the guy you're arguing about:
2017 3 Games 2 receptions for 23 yds 0 TD in NE 9 Games 18 Rec 233 yds 2 TDs in CLE
2016 15 Games 68 rec 1002 yds 5 TD Rams
2015 16 Games 36 rec 681 yds 3 TD Rams
2014 16 Games 48 rec 748 yds 3 TD Rams
2013 12 Games 11 rec 96 yds 0 TD TN
2012 14 Games 45 rec 589 yds 4 TD TN
2011 3 Games 17 rec 289 yds 3 TD TN
2010 12 Games 42 rec 775 yds 9 TD TN
2009 16 Games 42 rec 701 yds 3 TD TN
Kizer led the NFL in INTs with 22. How many more were dropped by the defense.
Lots of offenses dont have specified routes called. Its read and react how the defense is playing you after the ball is snapped. Just because a defense lines up a certain way pre snap does not mean that is the coverage.
2016 Britt didnt have any problem getting open and catching the ball after 3 years in the Rams offense and with only Case Keenum throwing the ball. Britt must have clicked with Keenum and thats important. You watched a new QB in Tennessee every year.
09 Young
10 Collins
11 Hasselbeck
12 Locker
13 Fitzpatrick
14 Mettenberger
Continuity with the same QB has a lot to do with success. Randy Moss stunk in Oakland with that cast of misfits.
Kizer led the NFL in INTs with 22. How many more were dropped by the defense.
2016 Britt didnt have any problem getting open and catching the ball after 3 years in the Rams offense and with only Case Keenum throwing the ball. Britt must have clicked with Keenum and thats important. You watched a new QB in Tennessee every year.
Do you really think you need to tell anyone on this board that Kizer struggled - especially the guy who called him the Forfeit?
That said, if you're going to argue all Britt needed was an accurate QB for much better production - in this comparison Britt had 2 receptions per game with Kizer and only 2 receptions in 3 games played with Brady. As I said to you already - the experienced Brady preferred the receivers that get open and run good routes.
You can celebrate that 2016 exception to the rule all you want. I'm not nearly as impressed with a 1st round NFL WR that has played 9 years and only exceeded 42 receptions once and only exceeded 775 yards once while averaging only 3.5 TDs a year.
FWIW, I tried to talk myself into him too when he was 1 of the only available veteran WRs that would have touched our 2017 situation with a 10 foot pole.
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But somehow 2016 Britt racked up 1000 yards and 5 TDs.
2017 Larry Fitzgerald 1156 yards and 6 TDs. Garbage.
? Come on Lancelot - all that sniffing Britt's garbage is making you silly! There's nothing garbage about Fitzgerald's 109 receptions in his 14th NFL season in 2017 - that's why you made sure you didn't include them.
Here's Fitzgerald's career stats where his average # of receptions, yards and TDs blow away Kenny Britt's. In fact, count how many times he had more than Britt's career best of 68 rec and 1002 yards.
Year Team G Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st FUM 2017 Arizona Cardinals 16 109 1,156 10.6 72.2 37 6 16 0 66 1 2016 Arizona Cardinals 16 107 1,023 9.6 63.9 32 6 8 0 59 2 2015 Arizona Cardinals 16 109 1,215 11.1 75.9 44 9 17 1 65 2 2014 Arizona Cardinals 14 63 784 12.4 56.0 80T 2 11 1 39 1 2013 Arizona Cardinals 16 82 954 11.6 59.6 75T 10 11 3 49 1 2012 Arizona Cardinals 16 71 798 11.2 49.9 37T 4 9 0 44 0 2011 Arizona Cardinals 16 80 1,411 17.6 88.2 73T 8 25 8 61 0 2010 Arizona Cardinals 16 90 1,137 12.6 71.1 41 6 14 1 59 0 2009 Arizona Cardinals 16 97 1,092 11.3 68.2 34T 13 12 0 69 0 2008 Arizona Cardinals 16 96 1,431 14.9 89.4 78T 12 20 5 66 1 2007 Arizona Cardinals 15 100 1,409 14.1 93.9 48T 10 19 4 69 3 2006 Arizona Cardinals 13 69 946 13.7 72.8 57 6 11 2 52 0 2005 Arizona Cardinals 16 103 1,409 13.7 88.1 47 10 27 4 67 0 2004 Arizona Cardinals 16 58 780 13.4 48.8 48 8 15 1 36 1 -
Kizer led the NFL in INTs with 22. How many more were dropped by the defense.
2016 Britt didnt have any problem getting open and catching the ball after 3 years in the Rams offense and with only Case Keenum throwing the ball. Britt must have clicked with Keenum and thats important. You watched a new QB in Tennessee every year.
Do you really think you need to tell anyone on this board that Kizer struggled - especially the guy who called him the Forfeit?
That said, if you're going to argue all Britt needed was an accurate QB for much better production - in this comparison Britt had 2 receptions per game with Kizer and only 2 receptions in 3 games played with Brady. As I said to you already - the experienced Brady preferred the receivers that get open and run good routes.
You can celebrate that 2016 exception to the rule all you want. I'm not nearly as impressed with a 1st round NFL WR that has played 9 years and only exceeded 42 receptions once and only exceeded 775 yards once while averaging only 3.5 TDs a year.
FWIW, I tried to talk myself into him too when he was 1 of the only available veteran WRs that would have touched our 2017 situation with a 10 foot pole.
Do you really think you need to tell anyone on this board that Kizer struggled - especially the guy who called him the Forfeit?
That said, if you're going to argue all Britt needed was an accurate QB for much better production - in this comparison Britt had 2 receptions per game with Kizer and only 2 receptions in 3 games played with Brady. As I said to you already - the experienced Brady preferred the receivers that get open and run good routes.
You can celebrate that 2016 exception to the rule all you want. I'm not nearly as impressed with a 1st round NFL WR that has played 9 years and only exceeded 42 receptions once and only exceeded 775 yards once while averaging only 3.5 TDs a year.
FWIW, I tried to talk myself into him too when he was 1 of the only available veteran WRs that would have touched our 2017 situation with a 10 foot pole.
Kizer struggled? He has no business in the NFL, so stop acting like Britt had anyone competent throwing the ball in Cleveland. Yew, had his playcalling duties stripped. What were you expecting from Britt? To light up the AFCN?
Do you really think that a player can to go to a new team and not have a learning curve? Forget about Briit last year in NE. He was not in the NE training camp.
His number are not nearly as dire as you make them out to be. In 92 games, Briit has averaged 52 yards a game, 3 receptions per game.
4 seasons of at least 681 yards and 3 TDs
2010 - 12 games 42 receptions, 775 yards and 9 TDs
2011- 3 games 17 receptions, 289 yards and 3 TDs.
If he makes the team its not because of Edelman. Its because NE sees potential.
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Do you really think you need to tell anyone on this board that Kizer struggled - especially the guy who called him the Forfeit?
That said, if you're going to argue all Britt needed was an accurate QB for much better production - in this comparison Britt had 2 receptions per game with Kizer and only 2 receptions in 3 games played with Brady. As I said to you already - the experienced Brady preferred the receivers that get open and run good routes.
You can celebrate that 2016 exception to the rule all you want. I'm not nearly as impressed with a 1st round NFL WR that has played 9 years and only exceeded 42 receptions once and only exceeded 775 yards once while averaging only 3.5 TDs a year.
FWIW, I tried to talk myself into him too when he was 1 of the only available veteran WRs that would have touched our 2017 situation with a 10 foot pole.
Kizer struggled? He has no business in the NFL, so stop acting like Britt had anyone competent throwing the ball in Cleveland. Yew, had his playcalling duties stripped. What were you expecting from Britt? To light up the AFCN?
Do you really think that a player can to go to a new team and not have a learning curve? Forget about Briit last year in NE. He was not in the NE training camp.
His number are not nearly as dire as you make them out to be. In 92 games, Briit has averaged 52 yards a game, 3 receptions per game.
4 seasons of at least 681 yards and 3 TDs
2010 - 12 games 42 receptions, 775 yards and 9 TDs
2011- 3 games 17 receptions, 289 yards and 3 TDs.
If he makes the team its not because of Edelman. Its because NE sees potential.
Kizer struggled? He has no business in the NFL, so stop acting like Britt had anyone competent throwing the ball in Cleveland. Yew, had his playcalling duties stripped. What were you expecting from Britt? To light up the AFCN?
Do you really think that a player can to go to a new team and not have a learning curve? Forget about Briit last year in NE. He was not in the NE training camp.
His number are not nearly as dire as you make them out to be. In 92 games, Briit has averaged 52 yards a game, 3 receptions per game.
4 seasons of at least 681 yards and 3 TDs
2010 - 12 games 42 receptions, 775 yards and 9 TDs
2011- 3 games 17 receptions, 289 yards and 3 TDs.
If he makes the team its not because of Edelman. Its because NE sees potential.
was britt even activated for any of the playoff games last year ?
oh wait I know the answer NO
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I got stuck with this dog on a FL team once came a bit alive before coming to Cleveland but basically an overrated bust.
Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 116 76 609 329 5137 15.6 32 80 2.8 44.3 2 14 0 12 7.0 0.1 0.0 355 5151 32 7 40 5 yrs TEN 57 30 299 157 2450 15.6 19 80 2.8 43.0 181 2450 19 5 22 3 yrs STL-LAR 47 42 267 152 2431 16.0 11 66 3.2 51.7 2 14 0 12 7.0 0.3 0.0 154 2445 11 2 17 1 yr CLE 9 4 38 18 233 12.9 2 38 2.0 25.9 18 233 2 0 1 1 yr NWE 3 0 5 2 23 11.5 0 16 0.7 7.7 2 23 0 0 0 2009 21 TEN wr 18 16 6 75 42 701 16.7 3 57 2.6 43.8 56.0% 66 701 3 1 7 2010 22 TEN wr 18 12 7 73 42 775 18.5 9 80 3.5 64.6 57.5% 42 775 9 1 8 2011 23 TEN wr 18 3 3 26 17 289 17.0 3 80 5.7 96.3 65.4% 17 289 3 1 2 2012 24 TEN WR 18 14 11 90 45 589 13.1 4 46 3.2 42.1 50.0% 45 589 4 2 4 2013 25 TEN wr 18 12 3 35 11 96 8.7 0 15 0.9 8.0 31.4% 11 96 0 0 1 2014 26 STL WR 81 16 13 84 48 748 15.6 3 63 3.0 46.8 57.1% 2 14 0 12 7.0 0.9 0.1 50 762 3 0 6 2015 27 STL WR 18 16 14 72 36 681 18.9 3 60 2.3 42.6 50.0% 36 681 3 0 5 2016 28 LAR WR 18 15 15 111 68 1002 14.7 5 66 4.5 66.8 61.3% 68 1002 5 2 6 2017 29 2TM 12 4 43 20 256 12.8 2 38 1.7 21.3 46.5% 20 256 2 0 1 CLE wr 18 9 4 38 18 233 12.9 2 38 2.0 25.9 47.4% 18 233 2 0 1 NWE 85 3 0 5 2 23 11.5 0 16 0.7 7.7 40.0% 2 23 0 0 0
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