5 Observations from "The Tie"
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A big problem I have with Taylor is he can't throw the deep out ,let alone hit the broad side of a garage.. If a QB can't hit the deep out.. I have no use for him...
Agree with those above commenting on TT's lack of comfort in pocket. Yes, the OL did little to give him comfort, but he had "happy-feet" very early.
A big problem I have with Taylor is he can't throw the deep out ,let alone hit the broad side of a garage.. If a QB can't hit the deep out.. I have no use for him...
Agree... TT is simply a medium armed QB... kinda Hoyer-esque... and the conditions magnified his lack of a strong arm.
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For sure, but the other countdown will probably on TTs time as a starting QB.
I mean, yes, conditions were bad, but 15/40 is only 37.5%....and it not like he was taking a ton of chances downfield in this rain. If not for being a Black Tarkenton and running a lot, he would have been considered to have had a disastrous day.
Fair to say?
Just can't hardly wait for the return of Ghoolie after his time out. Black Tarkenton indeed. He may have trouble seeing the field (Stan said he missed seeing a lot of guys that were wide open). Therefore, holds on to the ball too long, and has to use his feet to bail out of trouble when the pocket collapses. But put the blame on the o-line for some of his running, they weren't exactly giving him a lot of time, giving up seven sacks.
Any of his posts referring to Garrett as a Zumba instructor are gonna get deleted. Myles played like the #1 overall pick in the draft yesterday. Some of those holding calls the Steelers racked up were due to that's the only way they were stopping Myles. BTW, the reffing sucked in that game- should have been a PI in the end zone earlier. Gordon had his guy beat, and the Pittsburgh defender essentially had Flash in a headlock- no call.
Just can't hardly wait for the return of Ghoolie after his time out. Black Tarkenton indeed. He may have trouble seeing the field (Stan said he missed seeing a lot of guys that were wide open). Therefore, holds on to the ball too long, and has to use his feet to bail out of trouble when the pocket collapses. But put the blame on the o-line for some of his running, they weren't exactly giving him a lot of time, giving up seven sacks.
Any of his posts referring to Garrett as a Zumba instructor are gonna get deleted. Myles played like the #1 overall pick in the draft yesterday. Some of those holding calls the Steelers racked up were due to that's the only way they were stopping Myles. BTW, the reffing sucked in that game- should have been a PI in the end zone earlier. Gordon had his guy beat, and the Pittsburgh defender essentially had Flash in a headlock- no call.
There were missed calls on both sides and bad calls on both sides. The influx of personal foul penalties are going to have us all pulling our hair out.
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Bottom line ---Steelers handed game to us on a silver platter---"Take it, we don't want it!"--and we Brownsed it up.
I"m so sick of hearing the "Brownsed it up" talk. You sound a lot like the media. We should be looking at this as a growing team. You have to creep before you crawl and we still have the youngest team in the NFL. First time in 13 years we didn't lose the first game and you guys are still whining. I'll take the tie and move on to the Saints.
I"m so sick of hearing the "Brownsed it up" talk. You sound a lot like the media. We should be looking at this as a growing team. You have to creep before you crawl and we still have the youngest team in the NFL. First time in 13 years we didn't lose the first game and you guys are still whining. I'll take the tie and move on to the Saints.
No, I sound like someone who has watched the same shite for the last 5 years. Turning second and 3 into 3rd-and-we-can't-see-that-far. Defense makes a big play to get off the field and a stupid penalty gives the other team a first down inside the 5. A big turnover deep into opposing territory but a stupid penalty brings it back. You don't have to be a 5-year veteran to get the fukking snap count--two times in a row. You don't have to be a veteran to know not to block someone in the back.
Undisciplined play. Year after year.
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Just can't hardly wait for the return of Ghoolie after his time out. Black Tarkenton indeed. He may have trouble seeing the field (Stan said he missed seeing a lot of guys that were wide open). Therefore, holds on to the ball too long, and has to use his feet to bail out of trouble when the pocket collapses. But put the blame on the o-line for some of his running, they weren't exactly giving him a lot of time, giving up seven sacks.
Any of his posts referring to Garrett as a Zumba instructor are gonna get deleted. Myles played like the #1 overall pick in the draft yesterday. Some of those holding calls the Steelers racked up were due to that's the only way they were stopping Myles. BTW, the reffing sucked in that game- should have been a PI in the end zone earlier. Gordon had his guy beat, and the Pittsburgh defender essentially had Flash in a headlock- no call.
There were missed calls on both sides and bad calls on both sides. The influx of personal foul penalties are going to have us all pulling our hair out.
There were missed calls on both sides and bad calls on both sides. The influx of personal foul penalties are going to have us all pulling our hair out.
There are always missed calls. Haden's "mugging" for Gordon was one of them.
As for the feared onslaught of targeting calls... I only saw one yesterday and it was deserved. Defender was properly ejected.
My hair will stay where it is... it doesn't need my help accelerating a well-established process.
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There were missed calls on both sides and bad calls on both sides. The influx of personal foul penalties are going to have us all pulling our hair out.
There are always missed calls. Haden's "mugging" for Gordon was one of them.
As for the feared onslaught of targeting calls... I only saw one yesterday and it was deserved. Defender was properly ejected.
My hair will stay where it is... it doesn't need my help accelerating a well-established process.
There are always missed calls. Haden's "mugging" for Gordon was one of them.
As for the feared onslaught of targeting calls... I only saw one yesterday and it was deserved. Defender was properly ejected.
My hair will stay where it is... it doesn't need my help accelerating a well-established process.
I think it is more the "roughing the QB" penalties where it looks like a DL hits the QB...not late, not in the head, not in the knees, but just lands on him..and that's it. Not slamming him to the ground. Just a good form tackle....and they call it roughing. It happened to Garrett, to a Bengals guy and a couple of others. So, unless they just make a rule "don't hit the QB", I don't know how a defender is supposed to play.
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So, they say a tie is like kissing your sister. I guess so. Of course, that statement has a whole different meaning in Cleveland than it does in Pittsburgh. In Cleveland, its considered disgusting.....in Pittsburgh, it is considered a sexually arousing event.
So...clearly.....they are MUCH happier in Pittsburgh about this tie than we are in Cleveland.
Fair to say?
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And, while the thought of kissing my sister is disgusting, the thought of other sister kissing does not put me off that much.
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We'll have a better idea where the Browns are this coming Sunday Mark. Indoor conditions- and the Saints are going to be in a foul mood blowing that game to the Bucs. As one guy commented- at least 25% of the Survivor pools got blown up after that upset.
I agree. Saints offense is still great but man that defense blows. 48 to the Bucs?? That's just not good at all.
I agree. Saints offense is still great but man that defense blows. 48 to the Bucs?? That's just not good at all.
The Bucs are pretty loaded on offense with Jackson, Evans, OJ Howard, Brate, Godwin
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There were missed calls on both sides and bad calls on both sides. The influx of personal foul penalties are going to have us all pulling our hair out.
There are always missed calls. Haden's "mugging" for Gordon was one of them.
As for the feared onslaught of targeting calls... I only saw one yesterday and it was deserved. Defender was properly ejected.
My hair will stay where it is... it doesn't need my help accelerating a well-established process.
As for the feared onslaught of targeting calls... I only saw one yesterday and it was deserved. Defender was properly ejected.
I assume you're referring to the hit the Bengals player laid on Andrew Luck. Agreed, the guy rightly got tossed for that one...
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My biggest takeaway was this, after my liver was finishing its process... Fourth quarter came around and I said well.... same old Browns. Then the fourth quarter played out... and not quite so much. The game would not have been worth watching if it was the same old Browns. I’ll wait and see what the O looks like when it’s not pouring rain the entire game. That O line though........
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The Bucs are pretty loaded on offense with Jackson, Evans, OJ Howard, Brate, Godwin
Yup... not to mention that Fitz has a history of getting very hot in any given game... he just doesn't sustain the heat.
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I"m so sick of hearing the "Brownsed it up" talk. You sound a lot like the media. We should be looking at this as a growing team. You have to creep before you crawl and we still have the youngest team in the NFL. First time in 13 years we didn't lose the first game and you guys are still whining. I'll take the tie and move on to the Saints.
No, I sound like someone who has watched the same shite for the last 5 years. Turning second and 3 into 3rd-and-we-can't-see-that-far. Defense makes a big play to get off the field and a stupid penalty gives the other team a first down inside the 5. A big turnover deep into opposing territory but a stupid penalty brings it back. You don't have to be a 5-year veteran to get the fukking snap count--two times in a row. You don't have to be a veteran to know not to block someone in the back.
Undisciplined play. Year after year.
No, I sound like someone who has watched the same shite for the last 5 years. Turning second and 3 into 3rd-and-we-can't-see-that-far. Defense makes a big play to get off the field and a stupid penalty gives the other team a first down inside the 5. A big turnover deep into opposing territory but a stupid penalty brings it back. You don't have to be a 5-year veteran to get the fukking snap count--two times in a row. You don't have to be a veteran to know not to block someone in the back.
Undisciplined play. Year after year.
Year after year tells you something. Us getting a different coach after 2 years is a big problem. We'll never have any consistency until we keep a coach around at least 5 years.
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The Bucs are pretty loaded on offense with Jackson, Evans, OJ Howard, Brate, Godwin
Of course who would have said that before the season started ?
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The Bucs are pretty loaded on offense with Jackson, Evans, OJ Howard, Brate, Godwin
Of course who would have said that before the season started ?
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Ward probably had the most consistent game.
Garrett was really good but a couple of bad penalties.
Landry looked good but not great.
Hyde and Taylor both looked really bad.
I’m not sure why Zane is still on this team.
Haley and Hue do not seem to be on the same page
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I've seen multiple "experts" picking Saints v. Steelers in the SB, or at least both teams in their respective championship games. After week 1, neither team looked great but these are teams that will get better as the season goes on. That's what good teams do...
Having said that, this coming week will tell us a TON about our team. The Saints just got embarrassed at home by a supposedly "crappy" team. Sean Peyton will have his team ready to play, and the players will be eager to take their frustration out on the Browns.
Will we be able to match their intensity? If the Browns don't realize they need to come ready for a fight right out of the gate, then they're in trouble.
No weather, no injuries... just good 'ol head-to-head football. If they can compete for 4 quarters, then we're looking at a different Browns team. If they can tie or better, then we're looking at, dare I say, a potentially good football team...
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I think we need to start Baker and I've thought so since the preseason. I think Tyrod is a solid QB in the right offense but Haley doesn't play to his strengths. We won't be able to run a consistent offense unless we get Tyrod out of the pocket and making more easy reads. Bottom line he holds on to the ball too long looking for his receiver to get open instead of trusting his man to be in the right spot. He drink and dunked all through the preseason and it's pretty much what he did in this game with a handful of of shots that looked like he knew where he was going with the ball before the snap.
Kirksey is kind of trash. Hes not bad against the run but he can't cover. The play with James and the long gain by Juju were because he didn't make a play. If we didn't just give him a huge payday I would say put him on the trade block and start Burgess.
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I think we need to start Baker and I've thought so since the preseason. I think Tyrod is a solid QB in the right offense but Haley doesn't play to his strengths. We won't be able to run a consistent offense unless we get Tyrod out of the pocket and making more easy reads. Bottom line he holds on to the ball too long looking for his receiver to get open instead of trusting his man to be in the right spot. He drink and dunked all through the preseason and it's pretty much what he did in this game with a handful of of shots that looked like he knew where he was going with the ball before the snap.
Kirksey is kind of trash. Hes not bad against the run but he can't cover. The play with James and the long gain by Juju were because he didn't make a play. If we didn't just give him a huge payday I would say put him on the trade block and start Burgess.
I think we need to start Baker and I've thought so since the preseason......
If we throw the kid to the wolves now - behind that offensive line..... You can kiss any chance of him becoming our franchise QB goodbye.
Wash - Rinse - Repeat .......
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I think we need to start Baker and I've thought so since the preseason......
If we throw the kid to the wolves now - behind that offensive line..... You can kiss any chance of him becoming our franchise QB goodbye.
Wash - Rinse - Repeat .......
If we throw the kid to the wolves now - behind that offensive line..... You can kiss any chance of him becoming our franchise QB goodbye.
Wash - Rinse - Repeat .......
I don't think so. He looks like just needs experience. He manipulates the pocket extremely well and get the ball out quick. He will make our offensive line look better. He is just better than Manziel, McCoy, Weeden, etc
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