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Think they said you have to go back to 1971 for a tie on opening day.
I believe that is correct. And FYI, that was before they even instituted overtime in the NFL, which did not come in until the 1974 season.
And face it, with the reduction of the OT period from 15 minutes to 10 minutes, we ARE going to get a few more ties.
Which could make things interesting at the end of the season when determining playoff spots, and seeds.
Example: 1989:
Browns win division with 9-6-1 record
Steelers AND Oilers finish with 9-7 records, Bengals go 8-8.
Steelers and Oilers had to meet each other in the Wildcard game. (Steelers won that game...IN OT!!
Think they said you have to go back to 1971 for a tie on opening day.
I believe that is correct. And FYI, that was before they even instituted overtime in the NFL, which did not come in until the 1974 season.
And face it, with the reduction of the OT period from 15 minutes to 10 minutes, we ARE going to get a few more ties.
Which could make things interesting at the end of the season when determining playoff spots, and seeds.
Example: 1989:
Browns win division with 9-6-1 record
Steelers AND Oilers finish with 9-7 records, Bengals go 8-8.
Steelers and Oilers had to meet each other in the Wildcard game. (Steelers won that game...IN OT!!
I'll let the trivia exert look this one up if he feels like it. Has a team had more than one tie in a season?
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Think they said you have to go back to 1971 for a tie on opening day.
I believe that is correct. And FYI, that was before they even instituted overtime in the NFL, which did not come in until the 1974 season.
And face it, with the reduction of the OT period from 15 minutes to 10 minutes, we ARE going to get a few more ties.
Which could make things interesting at the end of the season when determining playoff spots, and seeds.
Example: 1989:
Browns win division with 9-6-1 record
Steelers AND Oilers finish with 9-7 records, Bengals go 8-8.
Steelers and Oilers had to meet each other in the Wildcard game. (Steelers won that game...IN OT!!
I'll let the trivia exert look this one up if he feels like it. Has a team had more than one tie in a season?
I'll let the trivia exert look this one up if he feels like it. Has a team had more than one tie in a season?
I assume you mean, since they implemented the OT rule for regular season in 1974? Before that it was a regular situation.
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I assume you mean, since they implemented the OT rule for regular season in 1974? Before that it was a regular situation.
Either- most ties in a season, one team since 1920.
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I assume you mean, since they implemented the OT rule for regular season in 1974? Before that it was a regular situation.
Either- most ties in a season, one team since 1920.
Either- most ties in a season, one team since 1920.
Well.....since the the OT rules came into play, the answer is that NO teams have had 2 ties in the same season Here is a list of all the tie games since then:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_tied_games
Note, many years there were no ties. In fact, the league went from 1989 to 1997 without having a tie game. Then there were 2 in 1997, but not another one for another 5 years in 2002.
There were no tie last season, 2017.
But, as I said, with the shortened OT, I think we will be getting a few more, here and there.
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So, just FYI Here are a few facts about tie games:
The Akron Pros won the very first NFL title with an 8-0-3 record.
A number of teams in the early years, the 1920s would have 3 ties on their record.
The team that had the most tie games in a season were:
The 1932 Chicago Bears, whose record was 7-1-6 They were awarded the NFL Championship based on this record!! The Packers who went 10-3-1 were given 2d place!)
The next most number of tie games were the 1925 Frankford Yellow Jackets who finished 9-4-5. (Packers won with 12-0-1 record)
Three other teams in history finished with 4 ties: 1924 Bears 6-1-4 (cleveland Bulldogs given title at 7-1-1); 1925 Orange Tornados and the 1932 Portsmouth Spartans.
Now....the LAST time an NFL team had 2 ties on its record was 1973, the year before the rule change. And actually 4 teams, including the Browns had two ties on their record. Perhaps those 4 teams with 2 ties prompted the rule change to go to regular season OT.
The LAST team to have 3 ties: 1970 San Diego Chargers
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Does anyone know who got credt for the late sack of Ben? The one where he appeared to trip over one of his OL or the turf and then was touched down?
I thought I saw in the one ground level replay that a Brown on the ground reached between an OL's feet and grabbed Ben's ankle. I thought it was MG, but I could not see a number.
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I'm more angry at this tie than anything last year. Just once...just ONCE you magnificent shitbags....find a way to win an effing game. JUST ONE TIME YOU PATHETIC LOSERS.
Yessir. Emotion l jive with. However, silver lining, what a weird àss way to start the season right? A tie? Who even does that anymore?
I gotta admit. I am unreasonably fired up. A tie on opening day? That is such a Browns thing to do, but also a Browns thing in the right direction.
That’s my team. Fúcking up standings from get go in the AFC.
Yessir. Emotion l jive with. However, silver lining, what a weird àss way to start the season right? A tie? Who even does that anymore?
I gotta admit. I am unreasonably fired up. A tie on opening day? That is such a Browns thing to do, but also a Browns thing in the right direction.
That’s my team. Fúcking up standings from get go in the AFC.
I mean, just ONCE...ya know? Six turnovers? How is that even possible? How did Joel Bitonio of all people get pushed back 7 feet into the kicker? How are the special teams STILL so bad? Jabrill Peppers called a fair catch with NOBODY around him? Jesus man. HOW? We literally got every single break one team could possibly get in that game, and we STILL didn't win? It's almost impossible.
We really couldn't have a slow start to the season offensively. Why? Because we're about to start hearing the chants of Baker Mayfield, that's why. Heck, I bet there were a few yesterday. If Tyrod has another poor game against the Saints, we're going to start hearing louder chants for Baker to play. Granted, Tyrod had to play in the driving rain ALL game, but COME ON GUY.
Oh, and kiss my butt Njoku. Tyrod's best pass of the entire day, and you drop it. Would've been 1st and 10 from their 31 yard line. But nooooooooooooo.
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Yessir. Emotion l jive with. However, silver lining, what a weird àss way to start the season right? A tie? Who even does that anymore?
I gotta admit. I am unreasonably fired up. A tie on opening day? That is such a Browns thing to do, but also a Browns thing in the right direction.
That’s my team. Fúcking up standings from get go in the AFC.
I mean, just ONCE...ya know? Six turnovers? How is that even possible? How did Joel Bitonio of all people get pushed back 7 feet into the kicker? How are the special teams STILL so bad? Jabrill Peppers called a fair catch with NOBODY around him? Jesus man. HOW? We literally got every single break one team could possibly get in that game, and we STILL didn't win? It's almost impossible.
We really couldn't have a slow start to the season offensively. Why? Because we're about to start hearing the chants of Baker Mayfield, that's why. Heck, I bet there were a few yesterday. If Tyrod has another poor game against the Saints, we're going to start hearing louder chants for Baker to play. Granted, Tyrod had to play in the driving rain ALL game, but COME ON GUY.
Oh, and kiss my butt Njoku. Tyrod's best pass of the entire day, and you drop it. Would've been 1st and 10 from their 31 yard line. But nooooooooooooo.
Oh, and kiss my butt Njoku. Tyrod's best pass of the entire day, and you drop it.
I wonder if the earlier TT high ball on a seam route that got Njoku lit up flashed before his eyes.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
You're damn near a goner.?
https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2018/9/10/17839032/browns-defensive-snap-counts-stats-and-pff-notes-week-1 newbies should be in this weeks gameplan..
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Oh, and kiss my butt Njoku. Tyrod's best pass of the entire day, and you drop it.
I wonder if the earlier TT high ball on a seam route that got Njoku lit up flashed before his eyes.
I wonder if the earlier TT high ball on a seam route that got Njoku lit up flashed before his eyes.
"lit".......but no call. Which i was ok with, its football. But i screamed up there in the nosebleeds with steelers fans thatvwe'll get a call against us similiar. And lije 10 mins later myles let too much of his body mass fall near ben upsetting the fluffy pillows that were laid down to catch ben from that nasty DL's intentions. Still Furious at that call
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NFL admits ref was wrong to flag Myles Garrett for roughing Ben Roethlisberger
Michael David Smith50 mins agoBrowns pass rusher Myles Garrett was flagged for a hit on Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger on Sunday that the NFL now says was legal.
NFL V.P. of Officiating Al Riveron told NFL Network that Garrett did not land with most of his body weight on Roethlisberger and shouldn’t have been flagged.
“The rule specifically says ‘most, if not all, of your body weight,'” Riveron said. “So we want that player to make an effort. And the last three or four weeks, we have pulled extensive video to show the clubs exactly what we’re talking about, and we probably last week showed 5-to-1 or 6-to-1 of legal hits, or legal contact, as opposed to illegal contact. Because the question we get all the time is, well, what do you want our players to do? Well, they have to not put the weight on the quarterback. And this one [on Garrett] yesterday showed, even though there is some body weight on Ben, this is not what we would consider contact that rises to the level of a foul.”
There are questions, however, about whether defenders can ever really refrain from putting most of their body weight on a quarterback they’re sacking — and whether officials can judge whether a player has put most of his body weight on the quarterback. This new rule is going to be a hard one to call consistently, and it was called wrong on Sunday in Cleveland.
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Yessir. Emotion l jive with. However, silver lining, what a weird àss way to start the season right? A tie? Who even does that anymore?
I gotta admit. I am unreasonably fired up. A tie on opening day? That is such a Browns thing to do, but also a Browns thing in the right direction.
That’s my team. Fúcking up standings from get go in the AFC.
I mean, just ONCE...ya know? Six turnovers? How is that even possible? How did Joel Bitonio of all people get pushed back 7 feet into the kicker? How are the special teams STILL so bad? Jabrill Peppers called a fair catch with NOBODY around him? Jesus man. HOW? We literally got every single break one team could possibly get in that game, and we STILL didn't win? It's almost impossible.
We really couldn't have a slow start to the season offensively. Why? Because we're about to start hearing the chants of Baker Mayfield, that's why. Heck, I bet there were a few yesterday. If Tyrod has another poor game against the Saints, we're going to start hearing louder chants for Baker to play. Granted, Tyrod had to play in the driving rain ALL game, but COME ON GUY.
Oh, and kiss my butt Njoku. Tyrod's best pass of the entire day, and you drop it. Would've been 1st and 10 from their 31 yard line. But nooooooooooooo.
How did Joel Bitonio of all people get pushed back 7 feet into the kicker? How are the special teams STILL so bad?
Because you can't jump over the center anymore. The Steelers IIRC ran three guys at Joel. Unless you're superman, you can't withstand three guys trying to knock you backwards....
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NFL admits ref was wrong to flag Myles Garrett for roughing Ben Roethlisberger
Michael David Smith50 mins agoBrowns pass rusher Myles Garrett was flagged for a hit on Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger on Sunday that the NFL now says was legal.
NFL V.P. of Officiating Al Riveron told NFL Network that Garrett did not land with most of his body weight on Roethlisberger and shouldn’t have been flagged.
“The rule specifically says ‘most, if not all, of your body weight,'” Riveron said. “So we want that player to make an effort. And the last three or four weeks, we have pulled extensive video to show the clubs exactly what we’re talking about, and we probably last week showed 5-to-1 or 6-to-1 of legal hits, or legal contact, as opposed to illegal contact. Because the question we get all the time is, well, what do you want our players to do? Well, they have to not put the weight on the quarterback. And this one [on Garrett] yesterday showed, even though there is some body weight on Ben, this is not what we would consider contact that rises to the level of a foul.”
There are questions, however, about whether defenders can ever really refrain from putting most of their body weight on a quarterback they’re sacking — and whether officials can judge whether a player has put most of his body weight on the quarterback. This new rule is going to be a hard one to call consistently, and it was called wrong on Sunday in Cleveland.
NFL admits ref was wrong to flag Myles Garrett for roughing Ben Roethlisberger
Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett was flagged for a hit on Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger on Sunday that the NFL now says was legal.I said in the Tavern at the time that looking at the replay Myles had clearly stuck out his right hand & arm on the ground to try to lesson the weight on the QB he had just run through and was sliding over. There was nothing else he could do since he had to dive to make the tackle in the first place. Myles is a great player but he's never been a dirty player like Suh who is out to permanently hurt whomever he hits.
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Call may have cost us a win. The resulting first down lead to the Conner TD.
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Does anyone know who got credt for the late sack of Ben? The one where he appeared to trip over one of his OL or the turf and then was touched down?
I thought I saw in the one ground level replay that a Brown on the ground reached between an OL's feet and grabbed Ben's ankle. I thought it was MG, but I could not see a number.
Does anyone know who got credt for the late sack of Ben? The one where he appeared to trip over one of his OL or the turf and then was touched down?
I thought I saw in the one ground level replay that a Brown on the ground reached between an OL's feet and grabbed Ben's ankle. I thought it was MG, but I could not see a number.
I also thought it was MG-when I watch it again I will pay close attention.
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You must have frail bones.
First broken bone of my life. I don't think so.
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Even after review, We got a gift when ball hit chubb on the helmet on punt that pitt.recovered ?..Pitt. got called for 12/-116..Browns got called for 14 with 11 accepted -87 yards.. A Hold on Zeitler was declined/1 Ill.Motion on Landry declined & 1 Ill. formation was declined against Harrison.. Does Tie/rod stutter? 4 False Starts=1 Joel.1 Njoku,2 Harrison.Garrett drew 3 flags,in the zone,roughing,block above waist..Block above waist was also called on D.Rice & O.Charles..Gordon 1 roughing..And we drew a Leverage penalty that remains unnamed by https://www.nflpenalties.com BTW-Colquitt knocked 6 of 12 punts inside the 20 with a 57 yard long on a messy day..
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Oh, and kiss my butt Njoku. Tyrod's best pass of the entire day, and you drop it.
I wonder if the earlier TT high ball on a seam route that got Njoku lit up flashed before his eyes.
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How did Joel Bitonio of all people get pushed back 7 feet into the kicker? How are the special teams STILL so bad?
Because you can't jump over the center anymore. The Steelers IIRC ran three guys at Joel. Unless you're superman, you can't withstand three guys trying to knock you backwards....
Because you can't jump over the center anymore. The Steelers IIRC ran three guys at Joel. Unless you're superman, you can't withstand three guys trying to knock you backwards....
I mean, I figured that, but then why doesn't every team just run three guys at someone every FG attempt and block every one of them?
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