Browns To Name Baker Mayfield Starter Monday
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Baker & Tyrod differences:
Baker will see the covered receiver and decide if and where he could put the ball so that his receiver could adjust to it and make the catch. - Tyrod would not try that.
Baker will leave the pocket and keep looking downfield expecting a receiver to dart to an open spot for the pass. Tyrod will leave the pocket and look for a lane to run in.
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On Tyrod's long pass attempt to Callaway against the Jets, he underthrew the ball...and he raised his hands a bit to show that he thought Callaway should have made an attempt to go for the ball instead of awaiting it to fall in his breadbasket. And he was right. I mean, Baker's gonna underthrow passes now and then, ya think? Callaway's a rookie, but he still had to know that there was a defender running with him...and he saw that the ball was underthrown....... Like Haley yelled at Coleman in TC, "Ya gotta go fight for that ball". - Perhaps Callaway learned somethin' there.
Not what I saw , the long ball to Callaway was grossly underthrown he had defender beat by 5 yards at full speed T Rod just doesn’t have the arm to make that play
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I don't see anyone questioning TT's effort and dedication. I certainly am not. He simply looked done to me... looked resigned to the fact that his time was up.
That said... as for being dedicated to "the Browns". The team was irrelevant. Whomever he was starting for this season, he was going to give them his all. It was likely his last starting shot unless he earned another starting shot with his play in this, his contract year.
Personally I do not think there was any chance that he would be starting in CLE in 2019. He was our 2018 version of the 2017 Alex Smith, place-holding for a rookie. The difference being he won't be under contract to trade after the season.
For that reason I would seriously consider trading him now and going with Stanton and a rookie, e.g, our 4th QB from HK (name escapes me). Problem is I do not think the demand for him is very high... even if we eat a good chunk of his contract.
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Agree, trade T Rod for a pick because it’s more than you’ll get after the season when he walks out as a free agent
Agree, trade T Rod for a pick because it’s more than you’ll get after the season when he walks out as a free agent
Seems like he has more worth than Drew Stanton at this point at least as a backup. I'm so happy to say seems like a good guy but not like a mentor. That's why I noticed Buffalo's desire to send him packing.
WSS
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enough tape for Hue & me?
guys are open..read pre-snap than grip it & rip it..Ball to Callaway was so badly thrown,ref would not give up a gift flag..(cuz were the browns)
enough tape for Hue & me?
guys are open..read pre-snap than grip it & rip it..Ball to Callaway was so badly thrown,ref would not give up a gift flag..(cuz were the browns)
Thanks, that video confirmed what I saw at the game. Tyrod missed seeing guys who were wide open, and when he did get the pass off, he was either short or off target most of the time.
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Black Tarkenton should sue.?
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
enough tape for Hue & me?
guys are open..read pre-snap than grip it & rip it..Ball to Callaway was so badly thrown,ref would not give up a gift flag..(cuz were the browns)
Thanks, that video confirmed what I saw at the game. Tyrod missed seeing guys who were wide open, and when he did get the pass off, he was either short or off target most of the time.
Thanks, that video confirmed what I saw at the game. Tyrod missed seeing guys who were wide open, and when he did get the pass off, he was either short or off target most of the time.
Larry.. I saw the same damn thing you did.. It was annoying.. I think Sam nailed it in the breakdown.. The telling thing for me about Baker , were his hitch steps.. His footwork is nearly flawless..... I harken back to what Hue said in his Presser.. "He's still an unfinished product"... If He's making these kinds of split second reads now... It's SCARY fun to think what this kids eyes and instincts will become...
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Black Tarkenton should sue.?
Black Tarkenton should sue.?
And anyone who thinks that comparing someone to Tarkenton is disparaging, I bring you this: These are like the 12 MOST productive players in NFL history since like 1960:
ank Player AV Years Tm 1 Peyton Manning 271 1998-2015 2TM 2 Tom Brady 255 2000-2018 nwe Brett Favre+ 255 1991-2010 4TM 4 Jerry Rice+ 250 1985-2004 3TM 5 Drew Brees 239 2001-2018 2TM 6 Fran Tarkenton+ 236 1961-1978 2TM 7 Reggie White+ 226 1985-2000 3TM 8 Bruce Smith+ 223 1985-2003 2TM 9 Ray Lewis+ 221 1996-2012 rav 10 Dan Marino+ 216 1983-1999 mia 11 Bruce Matthews+ 210 1983-2001 oti 12 John Elway+ 203 1983-1998 den 13 Derrick Brooks+ 191 1995-2008 ta #6 ALL TIME of course is you know who
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Great new
of Baker Mayfield. Kollman is a pretty good watchThe more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
**My prediction for this Sunday**
Browns- 28
Raiders- 24
Raiders come out and take a 14-0 lead,
Mayfield throws a pick, and loses a fumble in the first half, but a Carlos Hyde TD before halftime brings the score to 14-7Baker comes out firing 3 TDs in the second half, finishes the day 23/37 passing, 298 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT
Landry catches Baker's first career TD pass, Duke and Njoku catch the others in the red zone. Callaway has one reception for at least 40 yards..
Of course this is my prediction, but I think that's how it plays out.
Oakland comes out swinging, Baker struggles a little, but turns it on once the team makes adjustments at halftime.
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Go vote for Baker!!!!
http://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/2018/REG/3?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral
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Great new
of Baker Mayfield. Kollman is a pretty good watchGreat new
of Baker Mayfield. Kollman is a pretty good watchAfter watching two different videos, obvious why Baker is starting and Taylor is relegated to the backup role. You can see now why the Bills gladly took a third for Tyrod. He couldn't have consistently been playing this badly in Buffalo, or the Bills wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs. The Jets game wasn't the only sub par performance by Taylor. Sheeze, he looked like the rookie, and Baker the established vet on Thursday night. Maybe he'll benefit sitting and watching, learning the offence while Mayfield starts.
PS- yup, Tyrod totally missed seeing at least two hot reads, and as a consequence, got killed for his inattention.
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Tyrod was having one of his worst days ever and I still feel the second time down bell ringing was more of a Sonny Liston or a "No mas" kind of thing.
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Tyrod was having one of his worst days ever and I still feel the second time down bell ringing was more of a Sonny Liston or a "No mas" kind of thing.
Tyrod was having one of his worst days ever and I still feel the second time down bell ringing was more of a Sonny Liston or a "No mas" kind of thing.
Careful there, Ag... You'll get jumped on for stuff this.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Tyrod was having one of his worst days ever and I still feel the second time down bell ringing was more of a Sonny Liston or a "No mas" kind of thing.
Careful there, Ag... You'll get jumped on for stuff this.
Careful there, Ag... You'll get jumped on for stuff this.
It sure kind of looked that way.. I gotta believe Haley or someone got in Hue's ear and said.. "Look.. We're not going anywhere with that retread.. Look what the kid just did..".. However... I'm not in the conspiracy theory camp.. I just think Baker was just that much better.
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What are you guys expecting this week? Are you as confused as I am? I have a REALLY hard time believing a rookie is going to come into his first road start and do very well, BUT after seeing what I did last week, maybe he will? Jamal Adams of the Jets stated they didn't prepare for Baker at all, so you know the Raiders will DEFINITELY have a plan in place. The great news for Baker is that the Raiders don't appear to have much of a pass rush, and if you blitz Baker, you better get home. Anyway, what are you guys expecting, stat wise? I'll take a stab at it.
26-39 for 289 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT's, 1 fumble (hopefully not lost, lol). That's where I'm at right now. I'm expecting solid play, but I'm also expecting rookie mistakes (like he made Thursday, 1 fumble, 1 should-be pick). Neither cost us, but that's RARE in the NFL.
I don't have a final score prediction yet. I want to go back and watch the Raiders' last game in full before I make it. I know Derek Carr has been playing pretty darn well (for the most part), but he threw a costly pick against the Fins late in the game. It's also worth noting we're getting Ogbah back, and that's a VERY good thing for our pass rush, especially our 3rd down and long package, where we like to go Genard Avery outside, Garrett inside, Ogunjobi inside, Ogbah outside. You think Garrett inside is crazy? Nope. Gregg moves Garrett all over the place, and he's gotten sacks from everywhere on the line. DE Chris Smith filled in admirably for Ogbah, but Ogbah is especially nasty against the run, and sets the edge VERY well.
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