Browns To Name Baker Mayfield Starter Monday

Tour2ma

I don't see anyone questioning TT's effort and dedication. I certainly am not. He simply looked done to me... looked resigned to the fact that his time was up.

That said... as for being dedicated to "the Browns". The team was irrelevant. Whomever he was starting for this season, he was going to give them his all. It was likely his last starting shot unless he earned another starting shot with his play in this, his contract year.

Personally I do not think there was any chance that he would be starting in CLE in 2019. He was our 2018 version of the 2017 Alex Smith, place-holding for a rookie. The difference being he won't be under contract to trade after the season.

For that reason I would seriously consider trading him now and going with Stanton and a rookie, e.g, our 4th QB from HK (name escapes me). Problem is I do not think the demand for him is very high... even if we eat a good chunk of his contract.

7moses7

Agree, trade T Rod for a pick because it’s more than you’ll get after the season when he walks out as a free agent

Westside Steve

@7moses7 said:

Agree, trade T Rod for a pick because it’s more than you’ll get after the season when he walks out as a free agent

Seems like he has more worth than Drew Stanton at this point at least as a backup. I'm so happy to say seems like a good guy but not like a mentor. That's why I noticed Buffalo's desire to send him packing.

WSS

hoorta

@gumby73 said:

enough tape for Hue & me?

guys are open..read pre-snap than grip it & rip it..Ball to Callaway was so badly thrown,ref would not give up a gift flag..(cuz were the browns)

Thanks, that video confirmed what I saw at the game. Tyrod missed seeing guys who were wide open, and when he did get the pass off, he was either short or off target most of the time.

hoorta

Just an FYI.... http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000966362/article/baker-mayfield-makes-browns-choice-at-quarterback-easy

DieHardBrownsFan

Black Tarkenton should sue.?

nickers

@hoorta said:

Thanks, that video confirmed what I saw at the game. Tyrod missed seeing guys who were wide open, and when he did get the pass off, he was either short or off target most of the time.

Larry.. I saw the same damn thing you did.. It was annoying.. I think Sam nailed it in the breakdown.. The telling thing for me about Baker , were his hitch steps.. His footwork is nearly flawless..... I harken back to what Hue said in his Presser.. "He's still an unfinished product"... If He's making these kinds of split second reads now... It's SCARY fun to think what this kids eyes and instincts will become...

The Gipper

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Black Tarkenton should sue.?

And anyone who thinks that comparing someone to Tarkenton is disparaging, I bring you this: These are like the 12 MOST productive players in NFL history since like 1960:

ank	Player	AV	Years	Tm
1	Peyton Manning	271	1998-2015	2TM
2	Tom Brady	255	2000-2018	nwe
	Brett Favre+	255	1991-2010	4TM
4	Jerry Rice+	250	1985-2004	3TM
5	Drew Brees	239	2001-2018	2TM
6	Fran Tarkenton+	236	1961-1978	2TM
7	Reggie White+	226	1985-2000	3TM
8	Bruce Smith+	223	1985-2003	2TM
9	Ray Lewis+	221	1996-2012	rav
10	Dan Marino+	216	1983-1999	mia
11	Bruce Matthews+	210	1983-2001	oti
12	John Elway+	203	1983-1998	den
13	Derrick Brooks+	191	1995-2008	ta

#6 ALL TIME of course is you know who

PoeticG

Baker Mayfield- 30th times a charm!

Unsympathetic

Great new

of Baker Mayfield. Kollman is a pretty good watch

domcucch1994

**My prediction for this Sunday**

Browns- 28

Raiders- 24

Raiders come out and take a 14-0 lead,
Mayfield throws a pick, and loses a fumble in the first half, but a Carlos Hyde TD before halftime brings the score to 14-7

Baker comes out firing 3 TDs in the second half, finishes the day 23/37 passing, 298 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT

Landry catches Baker's first career TD pass, Duke and Njoku catch the others in the red zone. Callaway has one reception for at least 40 yards..

Of course this is my prediction, but I think that's how it plays out.

Oakland comes out swinging, Baker struggles a little, but turns it on once the team makes adjustments at halftime.

Coyote

Go vote for Baker!!!!

http://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/2018/REG/3?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

Tour2ma

Why merge the older thread under the newer one?

hoorta

@unsympathetic said:

Great new
of Baker Mayfield. Kollman is a pretty good watch

After watching two different videos, obvious why Baker is starting and Taylor is relegated to the backup role. You can see now why the Bills gladly took a third for Tyrod. He couldn't have consistently been playing this badly in Buffalo, or the Bills wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs. The Jets game wasn't the only sub par performance by Taylor. Sheeze, he looked like the rookie, and Baker the established vet on Thursday night. Maybe he'll benefit sitting and watching, learning the offence while Mayfield starts.

PS- yup, Tyrod totally missed seeing at least two hot reads, and as a consequence, got killed for his inattention.

TexasAg1969

Tyrod was having one of his worst days ever and I still feel the second time down bell ringing was more of a Sonny Liston or a "No mas" kind of thing.

Tour2ma

@texasag1969 said:

Tyrod was having one of his worst days ever and I still feel the second time down bell ringing was more of a Sonny Liston or a "No mas" kind of thing.

Careful there, Ag... You'll get jumped on for stuff this.

nickers

@tour2ma said:

Careful there, Ag... You'll get jumped on for stuff this.

It sure kind of looked that way.. I gotta believe Haley or someone got in Hue's ear and said.. "Look.. We're not going anywhere with that retread.. Look what the kid just did..".. However... I'm not in the conspiracy theory camp.. I just think Baker was just that much better.

jiggins7919

What are you guys expecting this week? Are you as confused as I am? I have a REALLY hard time believing a rookie is going to come into his first road start and do very well, BUT after seeing what I did last week, maybe he will? Jamal Adams of the Jets stated they didn't prepare for Baker at all, so you know the Raiders will DEFINITELY have a plan in place. The great news for Baker is that the Raiders don't appear to have much of a pass rush, and if you blitz Baker, you better get home. Anyway, what are you guys expecting, stat wise? I'll take a stab at it.

26-39 for 289 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT's, 1 fumble (hopefully not lost, lol). That's where I'm at right now. I'm expecting solid play, but I'm also expecting rookie mistakes (like he made Thursday, 1 fumble, 1 should-be pick). Neither cost us, but that's RARE in the NFL.

I don't have a final score prediction yet. I want to go back and watch the Raiders' last game in full before I make it. I know Derek Carr has been playing pretty darn well (for the most part), but he threw a costly pick against the Fins late in the game. It's also worth noting we're getting Ogbah back, and that's a VERY good thing for our pass rush, especially our 3rd down and long package, where we like to go Genard Avery outside, Garrett inside, Ogunjobi inside, Ogbah outside. You think Garrett inside is crazy? Nope. Gregg moves Garrett all over the place, and he's gotten sacks from everywhere on the line. DE Chris Smith filled in admirably for Ogbah, but Ogbah is especially nasty against the run, and sets the edge VERY well.

Mark O

Jets HC said they did watch film on Baker in preparation in case he came in and played last week. No idea if its true or not. I mean there is film on him already, long before last Thursday night. He played plenty in the preseason.

PoeticG

They should get Peppers involved on the offense as well as Tyrod Taylor- those dudes can move and make plays even though Baker is starting.