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  • So the majority of the ugly is on Tyrod and Zane. Guess that’s why they both won’t play anymore. 

    @comeonman said:

    So the majority of the ugly is on Tyrod and Zane. Guess that’s why they both won’t play anymore. 

    QB play, slow starts, and very poor STs. If these 3 are improved, which hopefully Baker (and our new K) can accomplish, then we should see far more Ws than we have been accustomed to seeing.

    Hopefully will also help with TOP, which will help the 2nd half D. 

    Surprisingly, doing ok with penalties and scoring in the red zone.

    Getting Ogbah and Kirksey back should really help, and hopefully help our red zone D - which really needs to tighten up...

  • Good- turnover margin.. Bad- Run against Defense #17(thought we would be better)..Ugly-ST          

  • I still can't believe that the bulk of you thought Black Tarkenton #3 would be anything but total schidt for us. That guy was never worth a good schidt.

    @ghoolie said:

    I still can't believe that the bulk of you thought Black Tarkenton #3 would be anything but total schidt for us. That guy was never worth a good schidt.

    Or even worth a cabbage fart...

  • @ghoolie said:

    I still can't believe that the bulk of you thought Black Tarkenton #3 would be anything but total schidt for us. That guy was never worth a good schidt.

    Or even worth a cabbage fart...

    @nickers said:

    Or even worth a cabbage fart...

    It is amazing Mah Nikka, There is about 400,000 pounds of bullschidt posts blasting me for calling Tyrod just another run-first,  Black Tarkenton who not only would stink, but would get hurt early on because his run-first dullard of a brain would have him getting hit when he should have thrown the ball. This guy was so obvious total crap that I swear to you I believed the only reason he got support on TBB is because the guys were running a parody. You called ryor getting hurt by week 4, I believe. THe dumb bastard didn't even get that far.

  • @nickers said:

    Or even worth a cabbage fart...

    It is amazing Mah Nikka, There is about 400,000 pounds of bullschidt posts blasting me for calling Tyrod just another run-first,  Black Tarkenton who not only would stink, but would get hurt early on because his run-first dullard of a brain would have him getting hit when he should have thrown the ball. This guy was so obvious total crap that I swear to you I believed the only reason he got support on TBB is because the guys were running a parody. You called ryor getting hurt by week 4, I believe. THe dumb bastard didn't even get that far.

    @ghoolie said:

    It is amazing Mah Nikka, There is about 400,000 pounds of bullschidt posts blasting me for calling Tyrod just another run-first,  Black Tarkenton who not only would stink, but would get hurt early on because his run-first dullard of a brain would have him getting hit when he should have thrown the ball. This guy was so obvious total crap that I swear to you I believed the only reason he got support on TBB is because the guys were running a parody. You called ryor getting hurt by week 4, I believe. THe dumb bastard didn't even get that far.

    Yup... In buffalo he had a bit of luck.. But then many forget he got pulled for schidt performances.. I have said it.. you have said it,, Rich has said it.. "It's the QB " "It's always the  muthaphuckin QB".. "Teams go as they're QB goes"... U gotta no QB?.. U gotta no wins.. its dat fukken simple.. He got hurt by week 3.. I think We both said/agreed , it or he , would go no further than 4 games.. This didnt require Kreskin like abilities to know this was gonna happen.... It's what the little dung beetle is.. I say Dung Beetle because thats what the little mudda fukkah looks like with the pig skin , running around back there.... I remember when we traded for him.. My heart just sank... This kid Baker comes in there.. No reps with the 1's and transmogrified this team into a professional looking team the instant he stepped onto the field.. The whole envionment changed.. The lineman guarded, protected and pulled when needed.. Baker called plays.. audibled.. and led them to victory... I haven't had this much fun since Kosar was slingin the rock...

  • @comeonman said:

    So the majority of the ugly is on Tyrod and Zane. Guess that’s why they both won’t play anymore. 

    QB play, slow starts, and very poor STs. If these 3 are improved, which hopefully Baker (and our new K) can accomplish, then we should see far more Ws than we have been accustomed to seeing.

    Hopefully will also help with TOP, which will help the 2nd half D. 

    Surprisingly, doing ok with penalties and scoring in the red zone.

    Getting Ogbah and Kirksey back should really help, and hopefully help our red zone D - which really needs to tighten up...

    @thenew23 said:

    QB play, slow starts, and very poor STs. If these 3 are improved, which hopefully Baker (and our new K) can accomplish, then we should see far more Ws than we have been accustomed to seeing.

    Hopefully will also help with TOP, which will help the 2nd half D. 

    Surprisingly, doing ok with penalties and scoring in the red zone.

    Getting Ogbah and Kirksey back should really help, and hopefully help our red zone D - which really needs to tighten up...

    The slow starts are GOING to get us killed soon. We've been lucky enough to contain the opposition, somewhat, in the first half, but in 2 of the 3 games we've had our defense on the field WAY too much. In the Saints game, we actually played with a lead. That didn't go well, and a large part of the blame does go to Tyrod. If you're playing a potential playoff team on the road, and you have a lead with 5 minutes to go WITH the ball, you simply MUST be able to drain the clock down and seal the victory. You can't leave it up to the defense EVERY time. We had a two point lead, 5 minutes to go, and Tyrod didn't just fail to milk the clock, he threw a freaking PICK. 

    You know what I'd do if I was Todd Haley? I'd START the game with Baker in the hurry-up offense. I really believe that Baker coming into the game with 1:45 until half time helped him tremendously. No time to think, just play. Many people may believe it's insanity to ask a rookie to start off running the no-huddle offense from the get-go, in his first road start, and normally I'd agree. But I'm not sure Baker is a normal rookie. It might help him find his groove, much like it did last week. We shall see! 

  • @thenew23 said:

    QB play, slow starts, and very poor STs. If these 3 are improved, which hopefully Baker (and our new K) can accomplish, then we should see far more Ws than we have been accustomed to seeing.

    Hopefully will also help with TOP, which will help the 2nd half D. 

    Surprisingly, doing ok with penalties and scoring in the red zone.

    Getting Ogbah and Kirksey back should really help, and hopefully help our red zone D - which really needs to tighten up...

    The slow starts are GOING to get us killed soon. We've been lucky enough to contain the opposition, somewhat, in the first half, but in 2 of the 3 games we've had our defense on the field WAY too much. In the Saints game, we actually played with a lead. That didn't go well, and a large part of the blame does go to Tyrod. If you're playing a potential playoff team on the road, and you have a lead with 5 minutes to go WITH the ball, you simply MUST be able to drain the clock down and seal the victory. You can't leave it up to the defense EVERY time. We had a two point lead, 5 minutes to go, and Tyrod didn't just fail to milk the clock, he threw a freaking PICK. 

    You know what I'd do if I was Todd Haley? I'd START the game with Baker in the hurry-up offense. I really believe that Baker coming into the game with 1:45 until half time helped him tremendously. No time to think, just play. Many people may believe it's insanity to ask a rookie to start off running the no-huddle offense from the get-go, in his first road start, and normally I'd agree. But I'm not sure Baker is a normal rookie. It might help him find his groove, much like it did last week. We shall see! 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    The slow starts are GOING to get us killed soon. We've been lucky enough to contain the opposition, somewhat, in the first half, but in 2 of the 3 games we've had our defense on the field WAY too much. In the Saints game, we actually played with a lead. That didn't go well, and a large part of the blame does go to Tyrod. If you're playing a potential playoff team on the road, and you have a lead with 5 minutes to go WITH the ball, you simply MUST be able to drain the clock down and seal the victory. You can't leave it up to the defense EVERY time. We had a two point lead, 5 minutes to go, and Tyrod didn't just fail to milk the clock, he threw a freaking PICK. 

    You know what I'd do if I was Todd Haley? I'd START the game with Baker in the hurry-up offense. I really believe that Baker coming into the game with 1:45 until half time helped him tremendously. No time to think, just play. Many people may believe it's insanity to ask a rookie to start off running the no-huddle offense from the get-go, in his first road start, and normally I'd agree. But I'm not sure Baker is a normal rookie. It might help him find his groove, much like it did last week. We shall see! 

    I like the hurry up defense. It could set a nice tone. Let them receive, a quick three and out with our fresh D and a long drive not letting them think.

  • @ghoolie said:

    I still can't believe that the bulk of you thought Black Tarkenton #3 would be anything but total schidt for us. That guy was never worth a good schidt.

    Or even worth a cabbage fart...

    @nickers said:

    Or even worth a cabbage fart...

    You schtealing my schtick?

  • @nickers said:

    Or even worth a cabbage fart...

    You schtealing my schtick?

    @the-gipper said:

    You schtealing my schtick?

    No.. as far as I know... There are no copyrights to that particular quote.. So I'm not worried about any infringements 😛

  • @thenew23 said:

    QB play, slow starts, and very poor STs. If these 3 are improved, which hopefully Baker (and our new K) can accomplish, then we should see far more Ws than we have been accustomed to seeing.

    Hopefully will also help with TOP, which will help the 2nd half D. 

    Surprisingly, doing ok with penalties and scoring in the red zone.

    Getting Ogbah and Kirksey back should really help, and hopefully help our red zone D - which really needs to tighten up...

    The slow starts are GOING to get us killed soon. We've been lucky enough to contain the opposition, somewhat, in the first half, but in 2 of the 3 games we've had our defense on the field WAY too much. In the Saints game, we actually played with a lead. That didn't go well, and a large part of the blame does go to Tyrod. If you're playing a potential playoff team on the road, and you have a lead with 5 minutes to go WITH the ball, you simply MUST be able to drain the clock down and seal the victory. You can't leave it up to the defense EVERY time. We had a two point lead, 5 minutes to go, and Tyrod didn't just fail to milk the clock, he threw a freaking PICK. 

    You know what I'd do if I was Todd Haley? I'd START the game with Baker in the hurry-up offense. I really believe that Baker coming into the game with 1:45 until half time helped him tremendously. No time to think, just play. Many people may believe it's insanity to ask a rookie to start off running the no-huddle offense from the get-go, in his first road start, and normally I'd agree. But I'm not sure Baker is a normal rookie. It might help him find his groove, much like it did last week. We shall see! 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    The slow starts are GOING to get us killed soon. We've been lucky enough to contain the opposition, somewhat, in the first half, but in 2 of the 3 games we've had our defense on the field WAY too much. In the Saints game, we actually played with a lead. That didn't go well, and a large part of the blame does go to Tyrod. If you're playing a potential playoff team on the road, and you have a lead with 5 minutes to go WITH the ball, you simply MUST be able to drain the clock down and seal the victory. You can't leave it up to the defense EVERY time. We had a two point lead, 5 minutes to go, and Tyrod didn't just fail to milk the clock, he threw a freaking PICK. 

    You know what I'd do if I was Todd Haley? I'd START the game with Baker in the hurry-up offense. I really believe that Baker coming into the game with 1:45 until half time helped him tremendously. No time to think, just play. Many people may believe it's insanity to ask a rookie to start off running the no-huddle offense from the get-go, in his first road start, and normally I'd agree. But I'm not sure Baker is a normal rookie. It might help him find his groove, much like it did last week. We shall see! 

    Worrying about the D's time on the field, but want the hurry-up O? Bit of an incongruity there...

    I don't expect a slow start starting this week.

  • @the-gipper said:

    You schtealing my schtick?

    No.. as far as I know... There are no copyrights to that particular quote.. So I'm not worried about any infringements 😛

    @nickers said:

    No.. as far as I know... There are no copyrights to that particular quote.. So I'm not worried about any infringements 😛

    Do you know where it comes from?

  • @nickers said:

    No.. as far as I know... There are no copyrights to that particular quote.. So I'm not worried about any infringements 😛

    Do you know where it comes from?

    @the-gipper said:

    Do you know where it comes from?

    I remember it said in a movie.. I just can't remember what movie it was from.. It sounds like something Walter Matthau would say..

  • @the-gipper said:

    Do you know where it comes from?

    I remember it said in a movie.. I just can't remember what movie it was from.. It sounds like something Walter Matthau would say..

    @nickers said:

    I remember it said in a movie.. I just can't remember what movie it was from.. It sounds like something Walter Matthau would say..

    It comes from the works of Bernard Cornwell.  You may have heard it in the TV series The Last Kingdom.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    The slow starts are GOING to get us killed soon. We've been lucky enough to contain the opposition, somewhat, in the first half, but in 2 of the 3 games we've had our defense on the field WAY too much. In the Saints game, we actually played with a lead. That didn't go well, and a large part of the blame does go to Tyrod. If you're playing a potential playoff team on the road, and you have a lead with 5 minutes to go WITH the ball, you simply MUST be able to drain the clock down and seal the victory. You can't leave it up to the defense EVERY time. We had a two point lead, 5 minutes to go, and Tyrod didn't just fail to milk the clock, he threw a freaking PICK. 

    You know what I'd do if I was Todd Haley? I'd START the game with Baker in the hurry-up offense. I really believe that Baker coming into the game with 1:45 until half time helped him tremendously. No time to think, just play. Many people may believe it's insanity to ask a rookie to start off running the no-huddle offense from the get-go, in his first road start, and normally I'd agree. But I'm not sure Baker is a normal rookie. It might help him find his groove, much like it did last week. We shall see! 

    Worrying about the D's time on the field, but want the hurry-up O? Bit of an incongruity there...

    I don't expect a slow start starting this week.

    @tour2ma said:

    Worrying about the D's time on the field, but want the hurry-up O? Bit of an incongruity there...

    I don't expect a slow start starting this week.

    No incongruity whatsoever. Regardless of how fast the offense moves, assuming it moves down the field even a LITTLE, it's still providing more rest than a 3 and out. 

  • Assuming it doesn't result in a 3 and out...

  • Guys! WTF? 

    Why are you discussing slow starts? Baker has never had a slow start? Phuck dudes, as soon as Baker took a snap the offense lit right up.

    You guys STILL don't get it. It is NOT THE OFFENSE that starts slaw....................... it is BLACK TARKENTON / Stink Rod / RG4 that has been STARTING THE OFFENSE SLOWLY. You guys STILL don't get it........................... IT'S THE QB -  QB - QB - QB   THE QB.....IS THE OFFENSE.......................

    What the offense did under this jackoff Tyrod is NOT what the offense will do with Baker Mayfield.

    Seriously, worrying about this offense starting slowly is like saying the Browns offense with McDonald was identical to what it was with Kosar. Jesus, for all the intelligence on this board, at times the discussion is idiotic beyond my most nutty flaming posts.

    Biitches.................quit the negativity already. DUDES............................ THIS IS A AGE OF BAKER MAYFIELD...........................What the hell are you people thinking by attaching what WAS, with WHAT IS?????????

    If Tyrod Taylor was given a Lambo to drive, he would keep it in first gear................. NO BALLS.............NO SMARTS.....................

    Put Baker in the Lambo and watch it quickly roar off into the horizon.

    New Day, people. New day.

  • @nickers said:

    I remember it said in a movie.. I just can't remember what movie it was from.. It sounds like something Walter Matthau would say..

    It comes from the works of Bernard Cornwell.  You may have heard it in the TV series The Last Kingdom.

    @the-gipper said:

    It comes from the works of Bernard Cornwell.  You may have heard it in the TV series The Last Kingdom.

    Doesnt ring a bell...

  • @the-gipper said:

    It comes from the works of Bernard Cornwell.  You may have heard it in the TV series The Last Kingdom.

    Doesnt ring a bell...

    @nickers said:

    Doesnt ring a bell...

  • Assuming it doesn't result in a 3 and out...

    @tour2ma said:

    Assuming it doesn't result in a 3 and out...

    Yep. Not much worse than a hurry-up offense going 3 and out. Lol. 

    Anyway, the point was that Baker entering the game in the 2 minute drill likely helped him, and it wouldn't surprise me if we went to hurry-up sporadically through the game. Baker definitely likes it, and it's obvious he has control of the offense. 

  • @nickers said:

    I remember it said in a movie.. I just can't remember what movie it was from.. It sounds like something Walter Matthau would say..

    It comes from the works of Bernard Cornwell.  You may have heard it in the TV series The Last Kingdom.

    @the-gipper said:

    It comes from the works of Bernard Cornwell.  You may have heard it in the TV series The Last Kingdom.

    I believe the term "cabbage fart" originally comes from the Old Testament. 

    I could be wrong, but I believe Job mentioned having a bad case of them.