Peppers
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ok so i just watched the nelson td throw....that was man coverage. And #22 was right with him....i mean that was not vad coverage, that ball was just rifled in. Peppers protected the corner route expecting the LB'er to converge on nelson if he broke to the inside. Schobert and peppers were running downfield with jordy nelson. Browns got caught with the wrong personnel im guessing, and carr naturally sniffed it. But acting like peppers just stared at a wide open nelson......wtf?
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ok so i just watched the nelson td throw....that was man coverage. And #22 was right with him....i mean that was not vad coverage, that ball was just rifled in. Peppers protected the corner route expecting the LB'er to converge on nelson if he broke to the inside. Schobert and peppers were running downfield with jordy nelson. Browns got caught with the wrong personnel im guessing, and carr naturally sniffed it. But acting like peppers just stared at a wide open nelson......wtf?
ok so i just watched the nelson td throw....that was man coverage. And #22 was right with him....i mean that was not vad coverage, that ball was just rifled in. Peppers protected the corner route expecting the LB'er to converge on nelson if he broke to the inside. Schobert and peppers were running downfield with jordy nelson. Browns got caught with the wrong personnel im guessing, and carr naturally sniffed it. But acting like peppers just stared at a wide open nelson......wtf?
I'm curious, do you have a link to the video? The only view of it I saw was the broadcast angle and it cuts most of the play off.
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Mitchell made the best defensive secondary play of the day and it was when he broke his arm..
its damn shame and I hope he recovers ASAP
Mitchell made the best defensive secondary play of the day ...
I was kinda partial to Ward taking out Lynch's legs on a near sideline incompletion.
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So I am guessing Taco actually rewatched the play he was ranting about, the run by Lynch that I posted, and he noticed a very curious thing... Peppers wasn't actually on the field. Ward got knocked on his butt (by an OL though), and Carrie got his legs cut out it looked like. I can see how Pep is the worst player ever when every bad play by a DB is now by Peppers... lol
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So was that Lynch run play I posted the one you were talking about?
it says video unavailable...more than one play as well....I watched the whole game and when they did skycam/overhead shots when he was in or close to the box he was out of position or getting shunted out of the play usually.
more importantly.did he actually have ZERO damn tackles all game? Sure as Sheet blows that 'oh he's going to be doing tons of great stuff in the box close to the LOS' Sheet away.....are you telling me the ONLY tackle this dude had all game was when 47 yo jordy nelson owned him in the end zone? Unfortunately for pep, I guess that one didnt count.
So I'm confused.....if he's making such an impact near the LOS why the hell isn't he actually in on any tackles? Because we've already established he definately isnt contributing jack in the downfield passing game.
Fortunately, its not the end of the world. By the time we are contending/ready to contend, this bum is not going to be on the field much
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Well, I'll leave it at that. If any unbiased person is following this thread, and they see you going off about that play, I hope they click out and watch the actual play. It is hard to take your ranting seriously when you're complaining about Pep's performance on a play he wasn't even in for...
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
ok so i just watched the nelson td throw....that was man coverage. And #22 was right with him....i mean that was not vad coverage, that ball was just rifled in. Peppers protected the corner route expecting the LB'er to converge on nelson if he broke to the inside. Schobert and peppers were running downfield with jordy nelson. Browns got caught with the wrong personnel im guessing, and carr naturally sniffed it. But acting like peppers just stared at a wide open nelson......wtf?
I'm curious, do you have a link to the video? The only view of it I saw was the broadcast angle and it cuts most of the play off.
I'm curious, do you have a link to the video? The only view of it I saw was the broadcast angle and it cuts most of the play off.
I just slowed down the video on the link previously provided which was the broadcast. You can kind of see what happened, Jordy faked the corner route and broke to the inside. Peppers "has" to respect that fake. This notion that Jordy Nelson is some over the hill bum that beats no one is laughable, dude is still one of the fastest WR's in the entire fukking game. Peppers had inside help, the coverage should have worked. I don't know if it's partly Schoberts fault or not. But peppers closed the gap very quickly and got there almost as the ball did...it's just a heck of a throw by Carr. Im just not going to sht on a young player that got beat by Carr and a WR that made his name catching Aaron Rodgers. I hope we at least expressed interest in getting Nelson to Cleveland. That kind of guy could have brought some amazing knowledge to our team. Imagine what Nelson could bring to the WR room.....even Landry could learn from him.
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Well, I'll leave it at that. If any unbiased person is following this thread, and they see you going off about that play, I hope they click out and watch the actual play. It is hard to take your ranting seriously when you're complaining about Pep's performance on a play he wasn't even in for...
Well, I'll leave it at that. If any unbiased person is following this thread, and they see you going off about that play, I hope they click out and watch the actual play. It is hard to take your ranting seriously when you're complaining about Pep's performance on a play he wasn't even in for...
I have no opinion on his play on defense onther than I like seeing him play closer to the line as oppposed to 50 yards away like last year. My only thing with his play this year is that he's just not good at returning kicks or punts. I don't know if we have anyone better to use, but I'd prefer if he just stay in the end zone every time and if the ball isn't in the end zone...stop hesitating before running.
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Well, I'll leave it at that. If any unbiased person is following this thread, and they see you going off about that play, I hope they click out and watch the actual play. It is hard to take your ranting seriously when you're complaining about Pep's performance on a play he wasn't even in for...
I have no opinion on his play on defense onther than I like seeing him play closer to the line as oppposed to 50 yards away like last year. My only thing with his play this year is that he's just not good at returning kicks or punts. I don't know if we have anyone better to use, but I'd prefer if he just stay in the end zone every time and if the ball isn't in the end zone...stop hesitating before running.
I have no opinion on his play on defense onther than I like seeing him play closer to the line as oppposed to 50 yards away like last year. My only thing with his play this year is that he's just not good at returning kicks or punts. I don't know if we have anyone better to use, but I'd prefer if he just stay in the end zone every time and if the ball isn't in the end zone...stop hesitating before running.
I’ll semi ditto this. I actually thought the last few games prior to this one were step forward games with regard to him playing defense.
Him returning kicks though? Man. It’s not good.
I almost think it would have been a good idea to sign Berry out of camp. Or some other balls out dude who knew he had one job, to push the kickoff as far as possible without fumbling.
Tenacity, mentality, fearlessness. Is that dude on the team? Give Josh Cribbs one roster spot to play with. He knows what it takes.
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Peppers wasn't the reason we lost. Much like anyone else, he'll be beat on occasion. That having been said, the position/role he is being asked to play and the manner in which he can do so is production that, was mentioned April of 2017, can be had without a first round investment. Jabrill has been OK for us, but that is about it. Do I expect his 5th year option to be picked up? Not so far. But that doesn't mean these threads are warranted.
The offense and their turnovers, plus the special teams turnover, was the reason for the loss yesterday.
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Peppers wasn't the reason we lost. Much like anyone else, he'll be beat on occasion. That having been said, the position/role he is being asked to play and the manner in which he can do so is production that, was mentioned April of 2017, can be had without a first round investment. Jabrill has been OK for us, but that is about it. Do I expect his 5th year option to be picked up? Not so far. But that doesn't mean these threads are warranted.
The offense and their turnovers, plus the special teams turnover, was the reason for the loss yesterday.
Peppers wasn't the reason we lost. Much like anyone else, he'll be beat on occasion. That having been said, the position/role he is being asked to play and the manner in which he can do so is production that, was mentioned April of 2017, can be had without a first round investment. Jabrill has been OK for us, but that is about it. Do I expect his 5th year option to be picked up? Not so far. But that doesn't mean these threads are warranted.
The offense and their turnovers, plus the special teams turnover, was the reason for the loss yesterday.
The offense also scored 42 points so its hard to totally blame them for a loss. The defense couldn't stop them at all....nearly all game long. The middle of the field was wide open all game. The entire defense should take the blame for this. 8 point lead, less than 2 minutes and no timeouts and not only did they not stop them, they didn't come close to stopping them. Guys were still wide open and there were still missed tackles.
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Peppers wasn't the reason we lost. Much like anyone else, he'll be beat on occasion. That having been said, the position/role he is being asked to play and the manner in which he can do so is production that, was mentioned April of 2017, can be had without a first round investment. Jabrill has been OK for us, but that is about it. Do I expect his 5th year option to be picked up? Not so far. But that doesn't mean these threads are warranted.
The offense and their turnovers, plus the special teams turnover, was the reason for the loss yesterday.
The offense also scored 42 points so its hard to totally blame them for a loss. The defense couldn't stop them at all....nearly all game long. The middle of the field was wide open all game. The entire defense should take the blame for this. 8 point lead, less than 2 minutes and no timeouts and not only did they not stop them, they didn't come close to stopping them. Guys were still wide open and there were still missed tackles.
The offense also scored 42 points so its hard to totally blame them for a loss. The defense couldn't stop them at all....nearly all game long. The middle of the field was wide open all game. The entire defense should take the blame for this. 8 point lead, less than 2 minutes and no timeouts and not only did they not stop them, they didn't come close to stopping them. Guys were still wide open and there were still missed tackles.
The offense and special teams are directly responsible for at least 13 points the defense gave up (My math is pick six, then at minimum 2 FG's for the turnovers are the least amount of points the Raiders would have gotten) I can think of being put in that exact same scenario once, we had a freshman center that snapped the ball over our QB's head 3 times. Once for a safety, once for a TD and the other ended up on the 4 yard line. It's incredibly frustrating and puts you on your heels as a defense.
Yes, we put up 42 points. But the defense wasn't the one giving the ball right back with outstanding field position. Now did we play poorly for stretches? Absolutely. But if not for that pick six it should have been a 28-7 game at one point. You really can't ask modern NFL defenses to play much better for damn near 3 quarters without them being Jacksonville.
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I expect the defense to make a stop when they need to and they never did. 42 points should be plenty to win on a Sunday. Considering people around here were talking them as the greatest defense ever and coming up with cute nicknames for them, I would think that a good defense would find a way to win when given 42 points.
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defense has alot of wear and tear on em first quarter of the season....mainly thanks to tyrods constant 3 and outs. They need a bye week bad.
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I expect the defense to make a stop when they need to and they never did. 42 points should be plenty to win on a Sunday. Considering people around here were talking them as the greatest defense ever and coming up with cute nicknames for them, I would think that a good defense would find a way to win when given 42 points.
I expect the defense to make a stop when they need to and they never did. 42 points should be plenty to win on a Sunday. Considering people around here were talking them as the greatest defense ever and coming up with cute nicknames for them, I would think that a good defense would find a way to win when given 42 points.
You realize the offensive turnovers basically gave them 21 points.
The momentum was overwhelming after the first fumble. Hostile environment, first road start, etc.
Sure it would’ve been nice to get a stop, but that offense is no slouch and we were already down a top outside corner, who got hurt making a nice play( Mitchell)
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I expect the defense to make a stop when they need to and they never did. 42 points should be plenty to win on a Sunday. Considering people around here were talking them as the greatest defense ever and coming up with cute nicknames for them, I would think that a good defense would find a way to win when given 42 points.
You realize the offensive turnovers basically gave them 21 points.
The momentum was overwhelming after the first fumble. Hostile environment, first road start, etc.
Sure it would’ve been nice to get a stop, but that offense is no slouch and we were already down a top outside corner, who got hurt making a nice play( Mitchell)
You realize the offensive turnovers basically gave them 21 points.
The momentum was overwhelming after the first fumble. Hostile environment, first road start, etc.
Sure it would’ve been nice to get a stop, but that offense is no slouch and we were already down a top outside corner, who got hurt making a nice play( Mitchell)
Other than the INT that was run back, the other turnovers gave them good field position, it didn't give them any points. Basically though proving my point, the defense couldn't get a stop at any point when it was needed. Guess what, turnovers by the offense are going to happen, so if they do we should just assume that the other team gets a TD from them? I thought this defense is supposed to be good? We shouldn't expect them to make a stop...maybe hold the other team to a FG in one of those situations?
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fire greg williams this instant. i better see the vaunted 2-5 defense out there next sunday got dammit!!!
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I said I wouldn't respond to a ranting, raving, nonsense response. Which is a lot of what I got. But, is this the run you were talking about?
Video should start at 8:02
I said I wouldn't respond to a ranting, raving, nonsense response. Which is a lot of what I got. But, is this the run you were talking about?
Video should start at 8:02
The only one I could see that he might be talking about as in Peppers missed a tackle in the play was at 4 minutes and 10 seconds.
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You realize the offensive turnovers basically gave them 21 points.
The momentum was overwhelming after the first fumble. Hostile environment, first road start, etc.
Sure it would’ve been nice to get a stop, but that offense is no slouch and we were already down a top outside corner, who got hurt making a nice play( Mitchell)
Other than the INT that was run back, the other turnovers gave them good field position, it didn't give them any points. Basically though proving my point, the defense couldn't get a stop at any point when it was needed. Guess what, turnovers by the offense are going to happen, so if they do we should just assume that the other team gets a TD from them? I thought this defense is supposed to be good? We shouldn't expect them to make a stop...maybe hold the other team to a FG in one of those situations?
Basically though proving my point, the defense couldn't get a stop at any point when it was needed. Guess what, turnovers by the offense are going to happen, so if they do we should just assume that the other team gets a TD from them? I thought this defense is supposed to be good? We shouldn't expect them to make a stop...maybe hold the other team to a FG in one of those situations?
A starter was knocked out and the defense wasn’t the same after.
AND the fumbles were back to back, so the Defense didn’t get a chance to catch their breathe.
They were bad I get it, but there was a lot going against the defensive unit. TACKLING WAS DISMAL. Especially on a play on the game tying drive.
Its just young players missing assignments and not enough reps out of their natural position. Guys were wide open.
dont forget the D did get the big stop, and the game should’ve been over.
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dont u all rem how good our tackling's been till now? its a sure sign of a fatigued defense. That TNF game was cool and all but those short weeks get to defenses more than offensive players
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