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  • StadiumTalk.com   has listed what it thinks are the 25 most deserving people who are not yet in the HOF, though they are and have been eligible.   I believe it has broken them down into positions.  Here they are:

    HC:   Bill Cowher,  Steelers

    Punter:  Dave Jennings  Giants/Jets

    Kicker:  Matt Stover  Browns/Ravens

    Safety:  Tim McDonald 49ers

    Safety: Johnny Robinson  Chiefs

    S/CB  Dave Grayson  Raiders

    CB:  Eric Allen   Eagles

    LB:  Larry Grantham  Jets

    LB: Leroy Jordan  Cowboys

    LB: Cornelius Bennett,   Bills/Colts

    DE: LC Greenwood,  Steelers

    DT: Rosey Grier,  Rams

    DT: Ron McDole  Redskins

    DT: Alex Karras, Lions

    OG: Bruno Banducci  Eagles/49ers

    OT Lomas Brown  Giants

    OT Jim Tyrer  Bears

    OT D.i.c.k  Shafrath  Browns

    OC  Kevin Mawae  Titans

    TE  Pete Retzlaff Eagles

    WR: Cliff Branch  Raiders

    WR: Harold Jackson  Eagles

    RB:  Roger Craig  49ers

    RB: Edgerrin James  Colts

    QB:  Ken Anderson  Bengals

    https://www.stadiumtalk.com/s/best-nfl-players-not-in-hall-of-fame-41a16878ca9746e3?utm_campaign=nothallfame-681d518f9f9e4218&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=fac&utm_content=247801

    Tell where you agree or disagree......or who you would add at any particular position  

    GhoolieG 1 Reply

  • HC:   Bill Cowher,  Steelers NO

    Punter:  Dave Jennings  Giants/Jets NO

    Kicker:  Matt Stover  Browns/Ravens NO

    Safety:  Tim McDonald 49ers NO

    Safety: Johnny Robinson  Chiefs YES

    S/CB  Dave Grayson  Raiders NO

    CB:  Eric Allen   Eagles NO

    LB:  Larry Grantham  Jets NO

    LB: Leroy Jordan  Cowboys YES

    LB: Cornelius Bennett,   Bills/Colts NO

    DE: LC Greenwood,  Steelers YES

    DT: Rosey Grier,  Rams YES

    DT: Ron McDole  Redskins NO

    DT: Alex Karras, Lions YES

    OG: Bruno Banducci  Eagles/49ers NO

    OT Lomas Brown  Giants NO

    OT Jim Tyrer  Bears YOU MEAN CHIEFS? NO

    OT D.i.c.k  Shafrath  Browns YES

    OC  Kevin Mawae  Titans YES

    TE  Pete Retzlaff Eagles NO

    WR: Cliff Branch  Raiders NO

    WR: Harold Jackson  Eagles NO

    RB:  Roger Craig  49ers YES

    RB: Edgerrin James  Colts YES

    QB:  Ken Anderson  Bengals NO

    CLAY MATTHEWS

    nickersN 1 Reply

  • One area of particular disagreement:   Head Coaches.   In my opinion, all of the following likely are better HOF candidates than Bill Cowher:  His mentor, Marty Schottenheimer,   Mike Shanahan,  Mike Holmgren, Chuck Knox, Dan Reeves.   Part of his problem is that he did it for a much shorter time than I think he should have.   He only was HC for 15 years,  compared to  over 20 years for most HOF coaches.   Belichick now has 24 years of coaching under his belt.

    Other people just as deserving as some of the above, perhaps:

    DE  Jim Marshall

    LB Zach Thomas

    OL Alan Faneca

    OT Mike Kenn

    OG Steve Wisniewski

    DB John Lynch

    QB  John Hadl

    and, of course, LB Clay Matthews 

  • I think, maybe that they don't let the likes of  Rosey Grier and Jim Marshall in because they would be the third members of a famous DL to get in:   Fearsome Foursome has  Deacon Jones and Merlin Olsen;   Purple People Eaters have  Page and Eller.   Also many other Steele Curtain defenders are in, so no go for Greenwood.

  • Z Zombo

    HC:   Bill Cowher,  Steelers NO

    Punter:  Dave Jennings  Giants/Jets NO

    Kicker:  Matt Stover  Browns/Ravens NO

    Safety:  Tim McDonald 49ers NO

    Safety: Johnny Robinson  Chiefs YES

    S/CB  Dave Grayson  Raiders NO

    CB:  Eric Allen   Eagles NO

    LB:  Larry Grantham  Jets NO

    LB: Leroy Jordan  Cowboys YES

    LB: Cornelius Bennett,   Bills/Colts NO

    DE: LC Greenwood,  Steelers YES

    DT: Rosey Grier,  Rams YES

    DT: Ron McDole  Redskins NO

    DT: Alex Karras, Lions YES

    OG: Bruno Banducci  Eagles/49ers NO

    OT Lomas Brown  Giants NO

    OT Jim Tyrer  Bears YOU MEAN CHIEFS? NO

    OT D.i.c.k  Shafrath  Browns YES

    OC  Kevin Mawae  Titans YES

    TE  Pete Retzlaff Eagles NO

    WR: Cliff Branch  Raiders NO

    WR: Harold Jackson  Eagles NO

    RB:  Roger Craig  49ers YES

    RB: Edgerrin James  Colts YES

    QB:  Ken Anderson  Bengals NO

    CLAY MATTHEWS

    Zombo said:

    HC:   Bill Cowher,  Steelers NO

    Punter:  Dave Jennings  Giants/Jets NO

    Kicker:  Matt Stover  Browns/Ravens NO

    Safety:  Tim McDonald 49ers NO

    Safety: Johnny Robinson  Chiefs YES

    S/CB  Dave Grayson  Raiders NO

    CB:  Eric Allen   Eagles NO

    LB:  Larry Grantham  Jets NO

    LB: Leroy Jordan  Cowboys YES

    LB: Cornelius Bennett,   Bills/Colts NO

    DE: LC Greenwood,  Steelers YES

    DT: Rosey Grier,  Rams YES

    DT: Ron McDole  Redskins NO

    DT: Alex Karras, Lions YES

    OG: Bruno Banducci  Eagles/49ers NO

    OT Lomas Brown  Giants NO

    OT Jim Tyrer  Bears YOU MEAN CHIEFS? NO

    OT D.i.c.k  Shafrath  Browns YES

    OC  Kevin Mawae  Titans YES

    TE  Pete Retzlaff Eagles NO

    WR: Cliff Branch  Raiders NO

    WR: Harold Jackson  Eagles NO

    RB:  Roger Craig  49ers YES

    RB: Edgerrin James  Colts YES

    QB:  Ken Anderson  Bengals NO

    CLAY MATTHEWS

    I agree with Zombo here.. Only.. I would give a strong maybe to Cliff Branch and Lomas Brown.. Bill Cowher.. Your joking.. I saw nothing HOF about him.. Clay Mathews.. definitely belongs just on longevity alone.. most only last 4-6 years at the position..

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~

  • Clay Matthew's time is long overdue.

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    Canton DawgC 1 Reply
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  • Bill Cowher shouldn't sniff the hall of fame. 4 AFCCG losses at home. 1 SB win in 1 years. He has no shot.

  • D Dawgs89

    Bill Cowher shouldn't sniff the hall of fame. 4 AFCCG losses at home. 1 SB win in 1 years. He has no shot.

    @dawgs89 said:

    Bill Cowher shouldn't sniff the hall of fame. 4 AFCCG losses at home. 1 SB win in 1 years. He has no shot.

    Well, again, it is a comparison issue.  He went to and won 1 Super Bowl.    So did coach Don McCaffrey.    Tom Flores has 2 SB victories.  George Seifert has 2,  Jimmy Johnson has 2. 

    He has as many as Barry Switzer, Brian Billick,  D.i.c.k Vermeil

    Mike McCarthy has almost as many career wins as Cowher, plus he has as many titles....and a much better career win pct.

    Same with Mike Tomlin.....more SB appearances, better win pct., closing in on total wins.

  • mjp28M mjp28

    Clay Matthew's time is long overdue.

    @mjp28 said:

    Clay Matthew's time is long overdue.

    I agree. . .

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    Z 1 Reply
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  • Clay Matthews Jr. should be in the HOF without question!

    I remember John Madden saying Clay was the best LB in the NFL when Clay was in his mid 30s.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST

  • Not sure about Cowher 

    He only won 1 Super Bowl with one of the greatest franchises of all time

    Goerge Seifort never gets a sniff. And he did the same thing

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Going back and looking at Zombos list

    No one on  that list belongs in a hall with Jim Brown, Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, and Lawrence Taylor

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • Browns149B Browns149

    Not sure about Cowher 

    He only won 1 Super Bowl with one of the greatest franchises of all time

    Goerge Seifort never gets a sniff. And he did the same thing

    @browns149 said:

    Not sure about Cowher 

    He only won 1 Super Bowl with one of the greatest franchises of all time

    Goerge Seifort never gets a sniff. And he did the same thing

    Seaford won two Super Bowl’sSeaford won two Supe12

  • I'd like to add another name to that list....JERRY SHERK, another Brown who, like Clay Matthews Jr, would already have been in had voting been done by their peers. Maybe they just weren't "glamorous" enough, but those 2 were FOOTBALL players.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST

  • Lester Hayes CB  Raiders

    Career highlights and awards
  • T TexasAg1969

    Lester Hayes CB  Raiders

    Career highlights and awards

    @texasag1969 said:

    Lester Hayes CB  Raiders

    Career highlights and awards

    I always liked Hayes, HOF worthy I don't know.

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  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    @mjp28 said:

    Clay Matthew's time is long overdue.

    I agree. . .

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    @canton-dawg said:

    I agree. . .

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    How do you play 268 games and only recover one fumble?

    Zombo

  • Z Zombo

    @canton-dawg said:

    I agree. . .

    2E23C96B-2870-45CA-81CF-AD19D3054305.jpeg

    How do you play 268 games and only recover one fumble?

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    How do you play 268 games and only recover one fumble?

    Zombo

    That blows my mind too... Like I feel it almost has to be a typo?

    mjp28M 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    StadiumTalk.com   has listed what it thinks are the 25 most deserving people who are not yet in the HOF, though they are and have been eligible.   I believe it has broken them down into positions.  Here they are:

    HC:   Bill Cowher,  Steelers

    Punter:  Dave Jennings  Giants/Jets

    Kicker:  Matt Stover  Browns/Ravens

    Safety:  Tim McDonald 49ers

    Safety: Johnny Robinson  Chiefs

    S/CB  Dave Grayson  Raiders

    CB:  Eric Allen   Eagles

    LB:  Larry Grantham  Jets

    LB: Leroy Jordan  Cowboys

    LB: Cornelius Bennett,   Bills/Colts

    DE: LC Greenwood,  Steelers

    DT: Rosey Grier,  Rams

    DT: Ron McDole  Redskins

    DT: Alex Karras, Lions

    OG: Bruno Banducci  Eagles/49ers

    OT Lomas Brown  Giants

    OT Jim Tyrer  Bears

    OT D.i.c.k  Shafrath  Browns

    OC  Kevin Mawae  Titans

    TE  Pete Retzlaff Eagles

    WR: Cliff Branch  Raiders

    WR: Harold Jackson  Eagles

    RB:  Roger Craig  49ers

    RB: Edgerrin James  Colts

    QB:  Ken Anderson  Bengals

    https://www.stadiumtalk.com/s/best-nfl-players-not-in-hall-of-fame-41a16878ca9746e3?utm_campaign=nothallfame-681d518f9f9e4218&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=fac&utm_content=247801

    Tell where you agree or disagree......or who you would add at any particular position  

    @the-gipper said:

    StadiumTalk.com   has listed what it thinks are the 25 most deserving people who are not yet in the HOF, though they are and have been eligible.   I believe it has broken them down into positions.  Here they are:

    HC:   Bill Cowher,  Steelers

    Punter:  Dave Jennings  Giants/Jets

    Kicker:  Matt Stover  Browns/Ravens

    Safety:  Tim McDonald 49ers

    Safety: Johnny Robinson  Chiefs

    S/CB  Dave Grayson  Raiders

    CB:  Eric Allen   Eagles

    LB:  Larry Grantham  Jets

    LB: Leroy Jordan  Cowboys

    LB: Cornelius Bennett,   Bills/Colts

    DE: LC Greenwood,  Steelers

    DT: Rosey Grier,  Rams

    DT: Ron McDole  Redskins

    DT: Alex Karras, Lions

    OG: Bruno Banducci  Eagles/49ers

    OT Lomas Brown  Giants

    OT Jim Tyrer  Bears

    OT D.i.c.k  Shafrath  Browns

    OC  Kevin Mawae  Titans

    TE  Pete Retzlaff Eagles

    WR: Cliff Branch  Raiders

    WR: Harold Jackson  Eagles

    RB:  Roger Craig  49ers

    RB: Edgerrin James  Colts

    QB:  Ken Anderson  Bengals

    https://www.stadiumtalk.com/s/best-nfl-players-not-in-hall-of-fame-41a16878ca9746e3?utm_campaign=nothallfame-681d518f9f9e4218&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=fac&utm_content=247801

    Tell where you agree or disagree......or who you would add at any particular position  

    Too much bullschidt to read through. Really, who gives a phauck about this schidt? WHy not post about the Porno HOF? That would be interesting. 

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  • GhoolieG Ghoolie

    @the-gipper said:

    StadiumTalk.com   has listed what it thinks are the 25 most deserving people who are not yet in the HOF, though they are and have been eligible.   I believe it has broken them down into positions.  Here they are:

    HC:   Bill Cowher,  Steelers

    Punter:  Dave Jennings  Giants/Jets

    Kicker:  Matt Stover  Browns/Ravens

    Safety:  Tim McDonald 49ers

    Safety: Johnny Robinson  Chiefs

    S/CB  Dave Grayson  Raiders

    CB:  Eric Allen   Eagles

    LB:  Larry Grantham  Jets

    LB: Leroy Jordan  Cowboys

    LB: Cornelius Bennett,   Bills/Colts

    DE: LC Greenwood,  Steelers

    DT: Rosey Grier,  Rams

    DT: Ron McDole  Redskins

    DT: Alex Karras, Lions

    OG: Bruno Banducci  Eagles/49ers

    OT Lomas Brown  Giants

    OT Jim Tyrer  Bears

    OT D.i.c.k  Shafrath  Browns

    OC  Kevin Mawae  Titans

    TE  Pete Retzlaff Eagles

    WR: Cliff Branch  Raiders

    WR: Harold Jackson  Eagles

    RB:  Roger Craig  49ers

    RB: Edgerrin James  Colts

    QB:  Ken Anderson  Bengals

    https://www.stadiumtalk.com/s/best-nfl-players-not-in-hall-of-fame-41a16878ca9746e3?utm_campaign=nothallfame-681d518f9f9e4218&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=fac&utm_content=247801

    Tell where you agree or disagree......or who you would add at any particular position  

    Too much bullschidt to read through. Really, who gives a phauck about this schidt? WHy not post about the Porno HOF? That would be interesting. 

    @ghoolie said:

    Too much bullschidt to read through. Really, who gives a phauck about this schidt? WHy not post about the Porno HOF? That would be interesting. 

    Or how about the dickhead Hall of Fame you would be at the head of the line for induction

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