Peppers
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Some people already feel the way about me because of my college choice," he said. "I've just got to play better and make the plays on the field to get them to like me. That's how it is in the NFL."
Why not just say I have to make plays and play better. It has nothing to do with where he is from, or do browns fans hate okie state too cause they turned on justin Gilbert pretty quick. Oh that's why kizer was booed. Not his performance but where he went to school. If Denzel Ward started sucking this place would turn on him. Has nothing to do with where players went to school it has to do with making plays out on the field.
Why not just say I have to make plays and play better.
"I love the Cleveland Browns; I love the city of Cleveland," Peppers said. "I love how passionate the fans are. Part of what I get is my fault. I'm not playing up to my potential and they see that as well so you can't fault people for feeling how they feel. You just go to take it with a grain of salt and do what you got to do to get better."
like that?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Why not just say I have to make plays and play better.
"I love the Cleveland Browns; I love the city of Cleveland," Peppers said. "I love how passionate the fans are. Part of what I get is my fault. I'm not playing up to my potential and they see that as well so you can't fault people for feeling how they feel. You just go to take it with a grain of salt and do what you got to do to get better."
like that?
"I love the Cleveland Browns; I love the city of Cleveland," Peppers said. "I love how passionate the fans are. Part of what I get is my fault. I'm not playing up to my potential and they see that as well so you can't fault people for feeling how they feel. You just go to take it with a grain of salt and do what you got to do to get better."
like that?
Woody I will echo what some others have said. I am no fan of Michigan but once a Michigan player becomes a Brown he is "my guy" and I don't care about what college he went to. I think Peppers has potential and I would love nothing more to see that potential realized in Cleveland.
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I'm not saying that a Michigan player can't be liked by Browns fans. I'm not saying that, even if they're a pro bowler, they'll be hated. If they kick butt they'll be liked. I get that. But being a Michigan player very clearly adds to the build up that leads to threads like these and comments like we've seen. Made a bad play, eh, I'll let it go. Made a bad play and went to Michigan, I'm gonna start posting crap. Look through this board and other comment sections on articles, it's very clearly true.
I also can't believe we have some people on here basically defending the act of going up and harassing a player out in public at a CVS or something.
I'm not saying that a Michigan player can't be liked by Browns fans. I'm not saying that, even if they're a pro bowler, they'll be hated. If they kick butt they'll be liked. I get that. But being a Michigan player very clearly adds to the build up that leads to threads like these and comments like we've seen. Made a bad play, eh, I'll let it go. Made a bad play and went to Michigan, I'm gonna start posting crap. Look through this board and other comment sections on articles, it's very clearly true.
I also can't believe we have some people on here basically defending the act of going up and harassing a player out in public at a CVS or something.
I think we have long threads like this because you defend Michigan.
I don't care where he went to college, I'm not an Ohio St. fan.
If he went to Arizona, there would still be thread saying "what's wrong with this first round pick?" and he'd probably still be whining about being harassed at CVS. But he wouldn't have as many defenders.
He was really fast as a linebacker in college. But he is not fast for an NFL Safety or punt returner. So he needs to show us something else (Playmaker/Fearsome hitter) and he hasn't yet.
Zombo
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I'm not saying that a Michigan player can't be liked by Browns fans. I'm not saying that, even if they're a pro bowler, they'll be hated. If they kick butt they'll be liked. I get that. But being a Michigan player very clearly adds to the build up that leads to threads like these and comments like we've seen. Made a bad play, eh, I'll let it go. Made a bad play and went to Michigan, I'm gonna start posting crap. Look through this board and other comment sections on articles, it's very clearly true.
I also can't believe we have some people on here basically defending the act of going up and harassing a player out in public at a CVS or something.
I think we have long threads like this because you defend Michigan.
I don't care where he went to college, I'm not an Ohio St. fan.
If he went to Arizona, there would still be thread saying "what's wrong with this first round pick?" and he'd probably still be whining about being harassed at CVS. But he wouldn't have as many defenders.
He was really fast as a linebacker in college. But he is not fast for an NFL Safety or punt returner. So he needs to show us something else (Playmaker/Fearsome hitter) and he hasn't yet.
Zombo
Zombo said:
I think we have long threads like this because you defend Michigan.
I don't care where he went to college, I'm not an Ohio St. fan.
If he went to Arizona, there would still be thread saying "what's wrong with this first round pick?" and he'd probably still be whining about being harassed at CVS. But he wouldn't have as many defenders.
He was really fast as a linebacker in college. But he is not fast for an NFL Safety or punt returner. So he needs to show us something else (Playmaker/Fearsome hitter) and he hasn't yet.
Zombo
Yes, but if he was from Arizona I strongly doubt I'd go into the comment section or a thread and read "Shmuck Arizona!" a bunch.
I'm not the only one here to defend him. I also like how it's my fault for defending Michigan. Like I should just let any objectively false posts go. It is what it is I guess...
He ran a 4.46 at the combine. Good for 7th out of 21 compared to this year's combine. Only one was under a 4.40. I'm not sure where this slow narrative came from. Minkah ran the same speed. Derwin ran a 4.47.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Zombo said:
I think we have long threads like this because you defend Michigan.
I don't care where he went to college, I'm not an Ohio St. fan.
If he went to Arizona, there would still be thread saying "what's wrong with this first round pick?" and he'd probably still be whining about being harassed at CVS. But he wouldn't have as many defenders.
He was really fast as a linebacker in college. But he is not fast for an NFL Safety or punt returner. So he needs to show us something else (Playmaker/Fearsome hitter) and he hasn't yet.
Zombo
Yes, but if he was from Arizona I strongly doubt I'd go into the comment section or a thread and read "Shmuck Arizona!" a bunch.
I'm not the only one here to defend him. I also like how it's my fault for defending Michigan. Like I should just let any objectively false posts go. It is what it is I guess...
He ran a 4.46 at the combine. Good for 7th out of 21 compared to this year's combine. Only one was under a 4.40. I'm not sure where this slow narrative came from. Minkah ran the same speed. Derwin ran a 4.47.
I'm not sure where this slow narrative came from.
Probably the people watching the games.
Zombo
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Zombo said:
I think we have long threads like this because you defend Michigan.
I don't care where he went to college, I'm not an Ohio St. fan.
If he went to Arizona, there would still be thread saying "what's wrong with this first round pick?" and he'd probably still be whining about being harassed at CVS. But he wouldn't have as many defenders.
He was really fast as a linebacker in college. But he is not fast for an NFL Safety or punt returner. So he needs to show us something else (Playmaker/Fearsome hitter) and he hasn't yet.
Zombo
Yes, but if he was from Arizona I strongly doubt I'd go into the comment section or a thread and read "Shmuck Arizona!" a bunch.
I'm not the only one here to defend him. I also like how it's my fault for defending Michigan. Like I should just let any objectively false posts go. It is what it is I guess...
He ran a 4.46 at the combine. Good for 7th out of 21 compared to this year's combine. Only one was under a 4.40. I'm not sure where this slow narrative came from. Minkah ran the same speed. Derwin ran a 4.47.
Yes, but if he was from Arizona I strongly doubt I'd go into the comment section or a thread and read "Shmuck Arizona!" a bunch.
I'm not the only one here to defend him. I also like how it's my fault for defending Michigan. Like I should just let any objectively false posts go. It is what it is I guess...
He ran a 4.46 at the combine. Good for 7th out of 21 compared to this year's combine. Only one was under a 4.40. I'm not sure where this slow narrative came from. Minkah ran the same speed. Derwin ran a 4.47.
I don't think any (rational) person is saying his speed was a "knock" in coming to the NFL. What I'm saying is in pads, on Sundays, the dude has looked exceptionally slow especially on punt returns. Blocking has been bad perhaps, but it's quite noticeable. As I said before, it almost has made me wonder if he's swimming upstream with a hammy.
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Why not just say I have to make plays and play better.
"I love the Cleveland Browns; I love the city of Cleveland," Peppers said. "I love how passionate the fans are. Part of what I get is my fault. I'm not playing up to my potential and they see that as well so you can't fault people for feeling how they feel. You just go to take it with a grain of salt and do what you got to do to get better."
like that?
"I love the Cleveland Browns; I love the city of Cleveland," Peppers said. "I love how passionate the fans are. Part of what I get is my fault. I'm not playing up to my potential and they see that as well so you can't fault people for feeling how they feel. You just go to take it with a grain of salt and do what you got to do to get better."
like that?
Part of it is my fault... My point being there was no need to even bring up where you went to school cuz that has nothing to do with it.
It has to do with him being a first-round draft pick and not playing up to what is expected of a first-round draft pick
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"I love the Cleveland Browns; I love the city of Cleveland," Peppers said. "I love how passionate the fans are. Part of what I get is my fault. I'm not playing up to my potential and they see that as well so you can't fault people for feeling how they feel. You just go to take it with a grain of salt and do what you got to do to get better."
like that?
Part of it is my fault... My point being there was no need to even bring up where you went to school cuz that has nothing to do with it.
It has to do with him being a first-round draft pick and not playing up to what is expected of a first-round draft pick
Part of it is my fault... My point being there was no need to even bring up where you went to school cuz that has nothing to do with it.
Except it 100% does. Even if I won't be able to convince posters on here.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Zombo said:
I think we have long threads like this because you defend Michigan.
I don't care where he went to college, I'm not an Ohio St. fan.
If he went to Arizona, there would still be thread saying "what's wrong with this first round pick?" and he'd probably still be whining about being harassed at CVS. But he wouldn't have as many defenders.
He was really fast as a linebacker in college. But he is not fast for an NFL Safety or punt returner. So he needs to show us something else (Playmaker/Fearsome hitter) and he hasn't yet.
Zombo
Yes, but if he was from Arizona I strongly doubt I'd go into the comment section or a thread and read "Shmuck Arizona!" a bunch.
I'm not the only one here to defend him. I also like how it's my fault for defending Michigan. Like I should just let any objectively false posts go. It is what it is I guess...
He ran a 4.46 at the combine. Good for 7th out of 21 compared to this year's combine. Only one was under a 4.40. I'm not sure where this slow narrative came from. Minkah ran the same speed. Derwin ran a 4.47.
Yes, but if he was from Arizona I strongly doubt I'd go into the comment section or a thread and read "Shmuck Arizona!" a bunch.
I'm not the only one here to defend him. I also like how it's my fault for defending Michigan. Like I should just let any objectively false posts go. It is what it is I guess...
Nothing false has been stated about him. You just don't like the truth. He has underperformed. He has gotten no worse treatment on here than Njoku has. Its just that Njoku hasn't had someone on here constantly making excuses for him. Peppers has you on here making excuses for him. If you were not here doing that, there would be a lot less conversation about him. So it is a self fulfilling prophecy for you. You make your excuses, others here respond. If you would STFU and quit making excuses for him, a lot less conversation about him would be generated.
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Except it 100% does. Even if I won't be able to convince posters on here.
Woody if he were out there making plays no one would give two shits where he went to school. The reality is he is not playing up to what he should be playing as a first-round pick. Sure he may hear Shmuck Michigan but he would hear that in jest if he were playing well. They are criticizing his play because of his lack of performance not because of where he went to school. Even if I can't convince you of that
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Except it 100% does. Even if I won't be able to convince posters on here.
Like I said, you are the one making an issue of where he matriculated. We just say that we may have another first round pick underperforming....as we have had so many do so before him. He is not getting any worse treatment than those busts that have gone before him. It is YOU who make a big deal about it.
And, correct me if I am wrong....but did someone say he was benched for half the game? (I certainly did not track him). So, WTF is up with that.....if it isn't a performance based move?
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Not one sane Browns fan is rooting for Peppers to fail based on where he came from. They are Browns fans they want him to succeed. I want him to succeed and I am a bigger Buckeye fan than I am a Browns fan but I still want Peppers to succeed in the NFL because he is on my team. This is a excuse and a pitiful one at that
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Except it 100% does. Even if I won't be able to convince posters on here.
Woody if he were out there making plays no one would give two shits where he went to school. The reality is he is not playing up to what he should be playing as a first-round pick. Sure he may hear Shmuck Michigan but he would hear that in jest if he were playing well. They are criticizing his play because of his lack of performance not because of where he went to school. Even if I can't convince you of that
Woody if he were out there making plays no one would give two shits where he went to school. The reality is he is not playing up to what he should be playing as a first-round pick. Sure he may hear Shmuck Michigan but he would hear that in jest if he were playing well. They are criticizing his play because of his lack of performance not because of where he went to school. Even if I can't convince you of that
.... I've already been over the "no one would care if he was making plays". I'm not doubting that. I posted that already. But when it comes to the negative and making the decision to go at him that fact that we played at Michigan 100% plays into it.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Not one sane Browns fan is rooting for Peppers to fail based on where he came from. They are Browns fans they want him to succeed. I want him to succeed and I am a bigger Buckeye fan than I am a Browns fan but I still want Peppers to succeed in the NFL because he is on my team. This is a excuse and a pitiful one at that
Not one sane Browns fan is rooting for Peppers to fail based on where he came from. They are Browns fans they want him to succeed. I want him to succeed and I am a bigger Buckeye fan than I am a Browns fan but I still want Peppers to succeed in the NFL because he is on my team. This is a excuse and a pitiful one at that
I never said any Browns fan was...
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Not one sane Browns fan is rooting for Peppers to fail based on where he came from. They are Browns fans they want him to succeed. I want him to succeed and I am a bigger Buckeye fan than I am a Browns fan but I still want Peppers to succeed in the NFL because he is on my team. This is a excuse and a pitiful one at that
I never said any Browns fan was...
I never said any Browns fan was...
Yet you are claiming that Browns fans are giving him a hard time just because he's from Michigan can not critiquing his play fairly, they don't give a fuk where he came from they want him to play well cuz he plays for their Browns when he doesn't play well they are going to criticize him. But you keep defending away and bringing up that he was our highest rated Defender in week 2.
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Woody if he were out there making plays no one would give two shits where he went to school. The reality is he is not playing up to what he should be playing as a first-round pick. Sure he may hear Shmuck Michigan but he would hear that in jest if he were playing well. They are criticizing his play because of his lack of performance not because of where he went to school. Even if I can't convince you of that
.... I've already been over the "no one would care if he was making plays". I'm not doubting that. I posted that already. But when it comes to the negative and making the decision to go at him that fact that we played at Michigan 100% plays into it.
.... I've already been over the "no one would care if he was making plays". I'm not doubting that. I posted that already. But when it comes to the negative and making the decision to go at him that fact that we played at Michigan 100% plays into it.
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I never said any Browns fan was...
Yet you are claiming that Browns fans are giving him a hard time just because he's from Michigan can not critiquing his play fairly, they don't give a fuk where he came from they want him to play well cuz he plays for their Browns when he doesn't play well they are going to criticize him. But you keep defending away and bringing up that he was our highest rated Defender in week 2.
Yet you are claiming that Browns fans are giving him a hard time just because he's from Michigan can not critiquing his play fairly
No, I've never said that either. I said it adds to the Sheet he's getting.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
No, I've never said that either. I said it adds to the Sheet he's getting.
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well, at the combine he ran a 4.46. He needs to grow up a bit - and learn the hybrid lb position.
He is very athletic, though. I hope he comes around to really start making plays.
His backflip at the combine was impressive. Translates to makin plays? nope.
If he doesn't start getting there...not good. I think he will though. Takes some players more time.
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