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  • @bjh2130 said:

    Part of it is my fault... My point being there was no need to even bring up where you went to school cuz that has nothing to do with it.

    Except it 100% does. Even if I won't be able to convince posters on here.

    @mld-woody said:

    Except it 100% does. Even if I won't be able to convince posters on here.

    Like I said, you are the one making an issue of where he matriculated.  We just say that we may have another first round pick underperforming....as we have had so many do so before him.  He is not getting any worse treatment than those busts that have gone before him.   It is YOU who make a big deal about it.

    And, correct me if I am wrong....but did someone say he was benched for half the game?  (I certainly did not track him).  So, WTF is up with that.....if it isn't a performance based move?

  • Not one sane Browns fan is rooting for Peppers to fail based on where he came from. They are Browns fans they want him to succeed. I want him to succeed and I am a bigger Buckeye fan than I am a Browns fan but I still want Peppers to succeed in the NFL because he is on my team. This is a excuse and a pitiful one at that

  • @mld-woody said:

    Except it 100% does. Even if I won't be able to convince posters on here.

    Woody if he were out there making plays no one would give two shits where he went to school. The reality is he is not playing up to what he should be playing as a first-round pick. Sure he may hear Shmuck Michigan but he would hear that in jest if he were playing well. They are criticizing his play because of his lack of performance not because of where he went to school. Even if I can't convince you of that

    @bjh2130 said:

    Woody if he were out there making plays no one would give two shits where he went to school. The reality is he is not playing up to what he should be playing as a first-round pick. Sure he may hear Shmuck Michigan but he would hear that in jest if he were playing well. They are criticizing his play because of his lack of performance not because of where he went to school. Even if I can't convince you of that

    .... I've already been over the "no one would care if he was making plays". I'm not doubting that. I posted that already. But when it comes to the negative and making the decision to go at him that fact that we played at Michigan 100% plays into it. 

  • Not one sane Browns fan is rooting for Peppers to fail based on where he came from. They are Browns fans they want him to succeed. I want him to succeed and I am a bigger Buckeye fan than I am a Browns fan but I still want Peppers to succeed in the NFL because he is on my team. This is a excuse and a pitiful one at that

    @bjh2130 said:

    Not one sane Browns fan is rooting for Peppers to fail based on where he came from. They are Browns fans they want him to succeed. I want him to succeed and I am a bigger Buckeye fan than I am a Browns fan but I still want Peppers to succeed in the NFL because he is on my team. This is a excuse and a pitiful one at that

    I never said any Browns fan was...

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Not one sane Browns fan is rooting for Peppers to fail based on where he came from. They are Browns fans they want him to succeed. I want him to succeed and I am a bigger Buckeye fan than I am a Browns fan but I still want Peppers to succeed in the NFL because he is on my team. This is a excuse and a pitiful one at that

    I never said any Browns fan was...

    @mld-woody said:

    I never said any Browns fan was...

    Yet you are claiming that Browns fans are giving him a hard time just because he's from Michigan can not critiquing his play fairly, they don't give a fuk where he came from they want him to play well cuz he plays for their Browns when he doesn't play well they are going to criticize him. But you keep defending away and bringing up that he was our highest rated Defender in week 2. 

  • One last thing Browns fans are not wishy-washy they have endured 17 out of 19 losing seasons and they still support their team

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Woody if he were out there making plays no one would give two shits where he went to school. The reality is he is not playing up to what he should be playing as a first-round pick. Sure he may hear Shmuck Michigan but he would hear that in jest if he were playing well. They are criticizing his play because of his lack of performance not because of where he went to school. Even if I can't convince you of that

    .... I've already been over the "no one would care if he was making plays". I'm not doubting that. I posted that already. But when it comes to the negative and making the decision to go at him that fact that we played at Michigan 100% plays into it. 

    @mld-woody said:

    .... I've already been over the "no one would care if he was making plays". I'm not doubting that. I posted that already. But when it comes to the negative and making the decision to go at him that fact that we played at Michigan 100% plays into it. 

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  • @mld-woody said:

    I never said any Browns fan was...

    Yet you are claiming that Browns fans are giving him a hard time just because he's from Michigan can not critiquing his play fairly, they don't give a fuk where he came from they want him to play well cuz he plays for their Browns when he doesn't play well they are going to criticize him. But you keep defending away and bringing up that he was our highest rated Defender in week 2. 

    @bjh2130 said:

    Yet you are claiming that Browns fans are giving him a hard time just because he's from Michigan can not critiquing his play fairly

    No, I've never said that either. I said it adds to the Sheet he's getting. 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Yet you are claiming that Browns fans are giving him a hard time just because he's from Michigan can not critiquing his play fairly

    No, I've never said that either. I said it adds to the Sheet he's getting. 

    @mld-woody said:

    No, I've never said that either. I said it adds to the Sheet he's getting. 

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  • well, at the combine he ran a 4.46. He needs to grow up a bit - and learn the hybrid lb position.

    He is very athletic, though. I hope he comes around to really start making plays.

    His backflip at the combine was impressive. Translates to makin plays? nope.

    If he doesn't start getting there...not good. I think he will though. Takes some players more time.

  • Mayfield shows a lot of promise, Ward is playing great, Myles is a DROY candidate... And yet the guy we talk the most about is Peppers. It should at least make you wonder if he is playing to the level you'd expect from a first round pick. 

    Last year he was played out of position in an awful secondary, I'll give him that. So this is a key year for him to play to his first round status. 

    Make this people wrong. Prove it on the field. 

  • Mayfield shows a lot of promise, Ward is playing great, Myles is a DROY candidate... And yet the guy we talk the most about is Peppers. It should at least make you wonder if he is playing to the level you'd expect from a first round pick. 

    Last year he was played out of position in an awful secondary, I'll give him that. So this is a key year for him to play to his first round status. 

    Make this people wrong. Prove it on the field. 

    @nero said:

    Mayfield shows a lot of promise, Ward is playing great, Myles is a DROY candidate... And yet the guy we talk the most about is Peppers. It should at least make you wonder if he is playing to the level you'd expect from a first round pick. 

    Last year he was played out of position in an awful secondary, I'll give him that. So this is a key year for him to play to his first round status. 

    Make this people wrong. Prove it on the field. 

    Its because we have one guy on here who has his nose straight up Peppers bung hole.

  • Mayfield shows a lot of promise, Ward is playing great, Myles is a DROY candidate... And yet the guy we talk the most about is Peppers. It should at least make you wonder if he is playing to the level you'd expect from a first round pick. 

    Last year he was played out of position in an awful secondary, I'll give him that. So this is a key year for him to play to his first round status. 

    Make this people wrong. Prove it on the field. 

    @nero said:

    Mayfield shows a lot of promise, Ward is playing great, Myles is a DROY candidate... And yet the guy we talk the most about is Peppers. It should at least make you wonder if he is playing to the level you'd expect from a first round pick. 

    Last year he was played out of position in an awful secondary, I'll give him that. So this is a key year for him to play to his first round status. 

    Make this people wrong. Prove it on the field. 

    Myles is not a rookie.

  • @nero said:

    Mayfield shows a lot of promise, Ward is playing great, Myles is a DROY candidate... And yet the guy we talk the most about is Peppers. It should at least make you wonder if he is playing to the level you'd expect from a first round pick. 

    Last year he was played out of position in an awful secondary, I'll give him that. So this is a key year for him to play to his first round status. 

    Make this people wrong. Prove it on the field. 

    Myles is not a rookie.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Myles is not a rookie.

    DPOY* 

  • @nero said:

    Mayfield shows a lot of promise, Ward is playing great, Myles is a DROY candidate... And yet the guy we talk the most about is Peppers. It should at least make you wonder if he is playing to the level you'd expect from a first round pick. 

    Last year he was played out of position in an awful secondary, I'll give him that. So this is a key year for him to play to his first round status. 

    Make this people wrong. Prove it on the field. 

    Myles is not a rookie.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Myles is not a rookie.

    @nero said:

    DPOY* 

    DPOY, DROY, HOF, QB, YAC, YPG...

    If I ever try to get a Certification of English Proficiency Level (C2), it wouldn't surprise me if they asked me about acronyms. 

  • @nero said:

    Mayfield shows a lot of promise, Ward is playing great, Myles is a DROY candidate... And yet the guy we talk the most about is Peppers. It should at least make you wonder if he is playing to the level you'd expect from a first round pick. 

    Last year he was played out of position in an awful secondary, I'll give him that. So this is a key year for him to play to his first round status. 

    Make this people wrong. Prove it on the field. 

    Its because we have one guy on here who has his nose straight up Peppers bung hole.

    @the-gipper said:

    Its because we have one guy on here who has his nose straight up Peppers bung hole.

    And feels the need to defend the indefensible- because the guy went to the same college he did. Peppers starts playing like a first round pick, the criticism will stop pretty quickly. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Its because we have one guy on here who has his nose straight up Peppers bung hole.

    And feels the need to defend the indefensible- because the guy went to the same college he did. Peppers starts playing like a first round pick, the criticism will stop pretty quickly. 

    @hoorta said:

    And feels the need to defend the indefensible- because the guy went to the same college he did. Peppers starts playing like a first round pick, the criticism will stop pretty quickly. 

    I don't recall anyone defending Brian robiskie back when he sucked. We all said he sucked and he was a second round pick. There may have been some people defending Terry as a coach but it was pretty unanimous that we all criticize Brian robiskie and that we all agreed we wasted a second round pick on him. But that must be because he's from Ohio State

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Why not just say I have to make plays and play better. 

    "I love the Cleveland Browns; I love the city of Cleveland," Peppers said. "I love how passionate the fans are. Part of what I get is my fault. I'm not playing up to my potential and they see that as well so you can't fault people for feeling how they feel. You just go to take it with a grain of salt and do what you got to do to get better."

    like that?

    @mld-woody said:

    "I love the Cleveland Browns; I love the city of Cleveland," Peppers said. "I love how passionate the fans are. Part of what I get is my fault. I'm not playing up to my potential and they see that as well so you can't fault people for feeling how they feel. You just go to take it with a grain of salt and do what you got to do to get better."

    like that?

    Also that was from his fake and forced clarification article. He wants to say he didn't mean to say that Browns fans are wishy-washy that's just how the NFL environment is. Right that's why he said one thing I've learned about CLEVELAND fans is that they are very very wishy-washy. And when told that statement may cause further criticism he basically said I don't care. So he shouldn't come back and try to clarify that he wasn't speaking just about Browns fans when he clearly stated Cleveland fans

  • @the-gipper said:

    Its because we have one guy on here who has his nose straight up Peppers bung hole.

    And feels the need to defend the indefensible- because the guy went to the same college he did. Peppers starts playing like a first round pick, the criticism will stop pretty quickly. 

    @hoorta said:

    And feels the need to defend the indefensible- because the guy went to the same college he did. Peppers starts playing like a first round pick, the criticism will stop pretty quickly. 

    Except it isn't indefensible. And I'm not the only one. And I've admitted many times when he can do better or messed up. And I've called out fajse statements. And.... ah, Shmuck it... it's been made clear there are people in here that post about what I say without having actually read what I say. (not necessarily you Hoorta)

  • @hoorta said:

    And feels the need to defend the indefensible- because the guy went to the same college he did. Peppers starts playing like a first round pick, the criticism will stop pretty quickly. 

    I don't recall anyone defending Brian robiskie back when he sucked. We all said he sucked and he was a second round pick. There may have been some people defending Terry as a coach but it was pretty unanimous that we all criticize Brian robiskie and that we all agreed we wasted a second round pick on him. But that must be because he's from Ohio State

    @bjh2130 said:

    I don't recall anyone defending Brian robiskie back when he sucked. We all said he sucked and he was a second round pick. There may have been some people defending Terry as a coach but it was pretty unanimous that we all criticize Brian robiskie and that we all agreed we wasted a second round pick on him. But that must be because he's from Ohio State

    Man... I've covered this like a dozen times now. I'm not saying people will hate on Michigan players no matter what. I'm not saying people will love OSU players no matter what. I'm saying being a Michigan player adds to and is a factor (along with actual or perceived bad play) that leads to threads like this, attacking comments, and harassment in public. I don't know how I can be any more clear....