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What Does The Bible Say About False Accusers And #BelieveWomen?

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  • Free will is the foundation of Christianity. it is not something ever forced. It is a message that is preached where some respond and willingly accept the gospel message and want to become a Christian. People are free to reject it. The reason I am for making abortions illegal is because there is another life involved. It is not just a part of the mother like an arm or leg but a whole new human being. Science itself shows that to be true. 

  • Whenever I see the religion guy referring to science to back up his points I have to have a little laugh

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  • Whenever I see the religion guy referring to science to back up his points I have to have a little laugh

    @mld-woody said:

    Whenever I see the religion guy referring to science to back up his points I have to have a little laugh

    It kinda takes away the science denier argument you like to use.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Whenever I see the religion guy referring to science to back up his points I have to have a little laugh

    It kinda takes away the science denier argument you like to use.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    It kinda takes away the science denier argument you like to use.

    Until you start heavily cherry picking what you like to use, and then incorrectly referencing what you do use...

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    It kinda takes away the science denier argument you like to use.

    Until you start heavily cherry picking what you like to use, and then incorrectly referencing what you do use...

    @mld-woody said:

    Until you start heavily cherry picking what you like to use, and then incorrectly referencing what you do use...

    The science you use for arguing climate change is not even settled science. I don't believe it can be argued that a baby in the womb is not a unique separate individual human being. That is settled science.  

  • here is science u cannot deny, when that baby is in the womb it is part of the mother. It isnt seperate, it could not live without the mother. If something goes awry with the pregnancy the mother very often suffers severe complications and in generations past....she most often died when complications arose.

    end of debate on that front. Its part of HER body. End of discussion. Now, u are still free to be distasteful of abortion....im not the buggest fan of women who get reg abortions as a form of birth control. But they arent the norm.

    The norm is women who are in the wrong place andvthe wrong time and have been left high and dry by a man. So they would gave to care almost exclusively fir the child which means working....something c9bservatives are ceaselessly contemptuous of. 

    u just cant win with Retarded conservatives that on the one hand bemoan female equality in the workplace,  bemoan social netting etc,etc.....then effirtlessly hop on the pro life wagon as if women arent taking all those social and economic circumstances into their decision.

    And listen, im not even bringing up circumstances of rape and incest. Ill be cery clear if the supreme court even thinks about hearing a case which would essentially sanction men passing their genes on by force. Im ALL for civil war. All for it. The U.S can dissolve. We're essentially then going back to europe in the dark ages, a place people git in rafts to cross a huge body of water to get away from.

  • here is science u cannot deny, when that baby is in the womb it is part of the mother. It isnt seperate, it could not live without the mother. If something goes awry with the pregnancy the mother very often suffers severe complications and in generations past....she most often died when complications arose.

    end of debate on that front. Its part of HER body. End of discussion. Now, u are still free to be distasteful of abortion....im not the buggest fan of women who get reg abortions as a form of birth control. But they arent the norm.

    The norm is women who are in the wrong place andvthe wrong time and have been left high and dry by a man. So they would gave to care almost exclusively fir the child which means working....something c9bservatives are ceaselessly contemptuous of. 

    u just cant win with Retarded conservatives that on the one hand bemoan female equality in the workplace,  bemoan social netting etc,etc.....then effirtlessly hop on the pro life wagon as if women arent taking all those social and economic circumstances into their decision.

    And listen, im not even bringing up circumstances of rape and incest. Ill be cery clear if the supreme court even thinks about hearing a case which would essentially sanction men passing their genes on by force. Im ALL for civil war. All for it. The U.S can dissolve. We're essentially then going back to europe in the dark ages, a place people git in rafts to cross a huge body of water to get away from.

    @clevfan4life said:

    here is science u cannot deny, when that baby is in the womb it is part of the mother. It isnt seperate, it could not live without the mother. If something goes awry with the pregnancy the mother very often suffers severe complications and in generations past....she most often died when complications arose.

    end of debate on that front. Its part of HER body. End of discussion. Now, u are still free to be distasteful of abortion....im not the buggest fan of women who get reg abortions as a form of birth control. But they arent the norm.

    The norm is women who are in the wrong place andvthe wrong time and have been left high and dry by a man. So they would gave to care almost exclusively fir the child which means working....something c9bservatives are ceaselessly contemptuous of. 

    u just cant win with Retarded conservatives that on the one hand bemoan female equality in the workplace,  bemoan social netting etc,etc.....then effirtlessly hop on the pro life wagon as if women arent taking all those social and economic circumstances into their decision.

    And listen, im not even bringing up circumstances of rape and incest. Ill be cery clear if the supreme court even thinks about hearing a case which would essentially sanction men passing their genes on by force. Im ALL for civil war. All for it. The U.S can dissolve. We're essentially then going back to europe in the dark ages, a place people git in rafts to cross a huge body of water to get away from.

    And something you cannot ignore or hide is that pro choice is just a sanitized word for killing a baby in the womb. And that baby is a separate human being...period end of story. Saying the baby is dependent on the mother doesn't change that fact. Most abortions are done out of convenience..another unhappy fact. 

  • All of this depends a lot of how you define things OBF. And I have a feeling your definitions don't match the norm for modern medicine. 

    I'd also argue "baby murder" is the sensationalized wording...

  • @clevfan4life said:

    can u read dude?

    That was some classic typical Steve

    "While I think it is wrong to assume all accusers are right and for the defendant to be guilty until proven innocent, I don't think the Bible is the best reason for this"

    "You think the Bible doesn't count?!??? You must think all women should be assumed to be right all of the time then!!??"

    "...."

    @mld-woody said:

    That was some classic typical Steve

    "While I think it is wrong to assume all accusers are right and for the defendant to be guilty until proven innocent, I don't think the Bible is the best reason for this"

    "You think the Bible doesn't count?!??? You must think all women should be assumed to be right all of the time then!!??"

    "...."

    Actually the two points that are specifically valid are that because you and Cleve are idiots you automatically stand against any guideline mentioned just because they might possibly be in the Bible. II point which is perfectly clear is that you and cleve are cnts of the first order.

    ?

    WSS

  • All of this depends a lot of how you define things OBF. And I have a feeling your definitions don't match the norm for modern medicine. 

    I'd also argue "baby murder" is the sensationalized wording...

    @mld-woody said:

    All of this depends a lot of how you define things OBF. And I have a feeling your definitions don't match the norm for modern medicine. 

    I'd also argue "baby murder" is the sensationalized wording...

    Abortionists agree: abortion is killing

    https://www.liveaction.org/news/abortionists-agree-abortion-is-killing/

  • @mld-woody said:

    That was some classic typical Steve

    "While I think it is wrong to assume all accusers are right and for the defendant to be guilty until proven innocent, I don't think the Bible is the best reason for this"

    "You think the Bible doesn't count?!??? You must think all women should be assumed to be right all of the time then!!??"

    "...."

    Actually the two points that are specifically valid are that because you and Cleve are idiots you automatically stand against any guideline mentioned just because they might possibly be in the Bible. II point which is perfectly clear is that you and cleve are cnts of the first order.

    ?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    . II point which is perfectly clear is that you and cleve are cnts of the first order

    just spell it with a K dhipshit

  • @mld-woody said:

    All of this depends a lot of how you define things OBF. And I have a feeling your definitions don't match the norm for modern medicine. 

    I'd also argue "baby murder" is the sensationalized wording...

    Abortionists agree: abortion is killing

    https://www.liveaction.org/news/abortionists-agree-abortion-is-killing/

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Abortionists agree: abortion is killing

    https://www.liveaction.org/news/abortionists-agree-abortion-is-killing/

    it may very well be but it diesnt change the fact that the very first prime right TO ALL OF LIFE is that we get to dictate what happens with our own bodies. If its wrong for a woman to have an abortion than its between her and god. Not you. Not me. Not dhipsht el typicales. Nobody!

  • @clevfan4life said:

    here is science u cannot deny, when that baby is in the womb it is part of the mother. It isnt seperate, it could not live without the mother. If something goes awry with the pregnancy the mother very often suffers severe complications and in generations past....she most often died when complications arose.

    end of debate on that front. Its part of HER body. End of discussion. Now, u are still free to be distasteful of abortion....im not the buggest fan of women who get reg abortions as a form of birth control. But they arent the norm.

    The norm is women who are in the wrong place andvthe wrong time and have been left high and dry by a man. So they would gave to care almost exclusively fir the child which means working....something c9bservatives are ceaselessly contemptuous of. 

    u just cant win with Retarded conservatives that on the one hand bemoan female equality in the workplace,  bemoan social netting etc,etc.....then effirtlessly hop on the pro life wagon as if women arent taking all those social and economic circumstances into their decision.

    And listen, im not even bringing up circumstances of rape and incest. Ill be cery clear if the supreme court even thinks about hearing a case which would essentially sanction men passing their genes on by force. Im ALL for civil war. All for it. The U.S can dissolve. We're essentially then going back to europe in the dark ages, a place people git in rafts to cross a huge body of water to get away from.

    And something you cannot ignore or hide is that pro choice is just a sanitized word for killing a baby in the womb. And that baby is a separate human being...period end of story. Saying the baby is dependent on the mother doesn't change that fact. Most abortions are done out of convenience..another unhappy fact. 

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    And something you cannot ignore or hide is that pro choice is just a sanitized word for killing a baby in the womb. And that baby is a separate human being...period end of story. Saying the baby is dependent on the mother doesn't change that fact. Most abortions are done out of convenience..another unhappy fact. 

    Stuart

    You can also mention to Cleve that the baby cannot survive outside the womb either. It cannot survive alone. It is dependent on the mother whether inside or outside the womb.

  • All of this depends a lot of how you define things OBF. And I have a feeling your definitions don't match the norm for modern medicine. 

    I'd also argue "baby murder" is the sensationalized wording...

    @mld-woody said:

    All of this depends a lot of how you define things OBF. And I have a feeling your definitions don't match the norm for modern medicine. 

    I'd also argue "baby murder" is the sensationalized wording...

    Stuart

    The "sensationalized " wording is  factual.  More factual than hiding behind the word "choice" rather than calling it what it is.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Abortionists agree: abortion is killing

    https://www.liveaction.org/news/abortionists-agree-abortion-is-killing/

    it may very well be but it diesnt change the fact that the very first prime right TO ALL OF LIFE is that we get to dictate what happens with our own bodies. If its wrong for a woman to have an abortion than its between her and god. Not you. Not me. Not dhipsht el typicales. Nobody!

    @clevfan4life said:

    it may very well be but it diesnt change the fact that the very furst prime right TO ALL OF LIFE is that we fet to dictate what happens with our own bodies. If its wrong for a woman to have an abortion than its between her and god. Not you. Not me. Not dhipsht el typicales. Nobody!

    Stuart

    If?

    How does anyone with good conscience see no wrong whatsoever in tearing a fetus apart piece by piece? You're a lib, what happened to your feelings and compassion?

    I would respect your opinion had you conceeded that although abortion is wrong, we should not interfere by legislating against it., that this act is between her and God. 

    Secondly, you don't believe in God, yet you used Him to help your case because it was convenient. How typical.

  • @westside-steve said:

    . II point which is perfectly clear is that you and cleve are cnts of the first order

    just spell it with a K dhipshit

    @clevfan4life said:

    just spell it with a K dhipshit

    Stuart

    It was clearly understood.

    Maybe if you correctly spelled half the words you get wrong in your posts, you would only sound half as stupid as you do.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Abortionists agree: abortion is killing

    https://www.liveaction.org/news/abortionists-agree-abortion-is-killing/

    it may very well be but it diesnt change the fact that the very first prime right TO ALL OF LIFE is that we get to dictate what happens with our own bodies. If its wrong for a woman to have an abortion than its between her and god. Not you. Not me. Not dhipsht el typicales. Nobody!

    @clevfan4life said:

    it may very well be but it diesnt change the fact that the very first prime right TO ALL OF LIFE is that we get to dictate what happens with our own bodies. If its wrong for a woman to have an abortion than its between her and god. Not you. Not me. Not dhipsht el typicales. Nobody!

    Probably for everyone on this board there's a point at which a fetus becomes a human being and even the most vitriolic left-wing jag off would agree that aborting would be Criminal. I don't think I have to even bother with a hypothetical.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    That was some classic typical Steve

    "While I think it is wrong to assume all accusers are right and for the defendant to be guilty until proven innocent, I don't think the Bible is the best reason for this"

    "You think the Bible doesn't count?!??? You must think all women should be assumed to be right all of the time then!!??"

    "...."

    Actually the two points that are specifically valid are that because you and Cleve are idiots you automatically stand against any guideline mentioned just because they might possibly be in the Bible. II point which is perfectly clear is that you and cleve are cnts of the first order.

    ?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Actually the two points that are specifically valid are that because you and Cleve are idiots you automatically stand against any guideline mentioned just because they might possibly be in the Bible. II point which is perfectly clear is that you and cleve are cnts of the first order.

    ?

    WSS

    No Steve. That's your typical black or white cowpoop. It's very clear. I'll leave it at that.