What Does The Bible Say About False Accusers And #BelieveWomen?
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OBF, when does a person die? When are they considered dead?
(Also, any point you want to make would be better made NOT coming from a clearly biased pro life site or religious site).
OBF, when does a person die? When are they considered dead?
(Also, any point you want to make would be better made NOT coming from a clearly biased pro life site or religious site).
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All of this depends a lot of how you define things OBF. And I have a feeling your definitions don't match the norm for modern medicine.
I'd also argue "baby murder" is the sensationalized wording...
All of this depends a lot of how you define things OBF. And I have a feeling your definitions don't match the norm for modern medicine.
I'd also argue "baby murder" is the sensationalized wording...
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OBF, when does a person die? When are they considered dead?
(Also, any point you want to make would be better made NOT coming from a clearly biased pro life site or religious site).
OBF, when does a person die? When are they considered dead?
(Also, any point you want to make would be better made NOT coming from a clearly biased pro life site or religious site).
(Also, any point you want to make would be better made NOT coming from a clearly biased pro life site or religious site).
Or else??? Seriously I complain about biases in the media but most of the time it is not they are telling lies it is what they leave out of stories and the liberal narratives and slant they put on stories. A pro life site may be biased in favor of life but that does not mean what they are saying is wrong or a lie it just means they are no different than much of what passes for journalism today. The left's gold standard for journalism the NY Times I consider no more than an extension of the democrat party and they are clearly clearly biased. If you want the full story you should get a variety of news sources and I force myself to listen to some of the MSM as well just to hear the other side even if it is many times nonsensical.
I think I can figure out where you are coming at with your question when do I believe a person is dead? Once I say no heart beat or brain waves etc than you will say a baby in the womb who has neither would be dead? Am I right? I believe a new human life starts at conception. Let's start at where life begins at go from there. Life begins without a heartbeat or brain waves. I would consider death of baby in the womb is the stopping of the life process that has already been started.
When Human Life Begins
https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/life-issues/when-human-life-begins
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Yes, that's where I'm going. Life is Life and death is death. How can you define the starting point for life differently than the ending point?
I can almost guarantee that if I dig into claims and citations (if there are any) from a heavily pro life or religious site they'll be found out to not be 100% true.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
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Yes, that's where I'm going. Life is Life and death is death. How can you define the starting point for life differently than the ending point?
I can almost guarantee that if I dig into claims and citations (if there are any) from a heavily pro life or religious site they'll be found out to not be 100% true.
Yes, that's where I'm going. Life is Life and death is death. How can you define the starting point for life differently than the ending point?
I can almost guarantee that if I dig into claims and citations (if there are any) from a heavily pro life or religious site they'll be found out to not be 100% true.
The link I gave stating life begins at conception was from the American College of Pediatricians. I could list many many other sites with a quick google search also stating life begins at conception. In checking they are pro life but where are they wrong?
https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/life-issues/when-human-life-begins
"Yes, that's where I'm going. Life is Life and death is death. How can you define the starting point for life differently than the ending point?"
The simple answer for me is when cells start growing and when cells stop growing. A fertilized egg is in the process of growing new cells and living human beings are growing new cells constantly to replace dying ones. At death there are no new cells growing.
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It doesn't matter if life begins at conception. It doesn't. I honestly don't care to parse that out. If it begins at conception or at 5 weeks, 6 weeks, 6 months...it's irrelevant. It's in the womans body, it can kill her...so the two are inseperable. Period end of discussion. It's between a woman and god. Religious people are free to disassociate with women who get abortions. I perfectly understand that. If a woman is found out to have had an abortion, kick her out of the church. Deny her communion. That's the price she has to pay if she wants to call herself a Christian....she ain't allowed to anymore. But im not Christian nor give one solitary fuk about the bible...even tho there's things I believe in that I guess are shared with Christians...I come from a "completely" different perspective.
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It doesn't matter if life begins at conception. It doesn't. I honestly don't care to parse that out. If it begins at conception or at 5 weeks, 6 weeks, 6 months...it's irrelevant. It's in the womans body, it can kill her...so the two are inseperable. Period end of discussion. It's between a woman and god. Religious people are free to disassociate with women who get abortions. I perfectly understand that. If a woman is found out to have had an abortion, kick her out of the church. Deny her communion. That's the price she has to pay if she wants to call herself a Christian....she ain't allowed to anymore. But im not Christian nor give one solitary fuk about the bible...even tho there's things I believe in that I guess are shared with Christians...I come from a "completely" different perspective.
It doesn't matter if life begins at conception. It doesn't. I honestly don't care to parse that out. If it begins at conception or at 5 weeks, 6 weeks, 6 months...it's irrelevant. It's in the womans body, it can kill her...so the two are inseperable. Period end of discussion. It's between a woman and god. Religious people are free to disassociate with women who get abortions. I perfectly understand that. If a woman is found out to have had an abortion, kick her out of the church. Deny her communion. That's the price she has to pay if she wants to call herself a Christian....she ain't allowed to anymore. But im not Christian nor give one solitary fuk about the bible...even tho there's things I believe in that I guess are shared with Christians...I come from a "completely" different perspective.
Actually we have some women in our church who did have abortions. Even though they repented and God has forgiven them they have a very difficult time forgiving themselves. Today they are active in trying to keep other women from making their mistake and are trying to prevent abortions.
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It doesn't matter if life begins at conception. It doesn't. I honestly don't care to parse that out. If it begins at conception or at 5 weeks, 6 weeks, 6 months...it's irrelevant. It's in the womans body, it can kill her...so the two are inseperable. Period end of discussion. It's between a woman and god. Religious people are free to disassociate with women who get abortions. I perfectly understand that. If a woman is found out to have had an abortion, kick her out of the church. Deny her communion. That's the price she has to pay if she wants to call herself a Christian....she ain't allowed to anymore. But im not Christian nor give one solitary fuk about the bible...even tho there's things I believe in that I guess are shared with Christians...I come from a "completely" different perspective.
Actually we have some women in our church who did have abortions. Even though they repented and God has forgiven them they have a very difficult time forgiving themselves. Today they are active in trying to keep other women from making their mistake and are trying to prevent abortions.
Actually we have some women in our church who did have abortions. Even though they repented and God has forgiven them they have a very difficult time forgiving themselves. Today they are active in trying to keep other women from making their mistake and are trying to prevent abortions.
good for them, that's how you reduce abortions. Not through the legal system. This is what annoys me to no end about pro lifers...they think pro choice people want women to have abortions. Which essentially is like raising one's hand and saying im so stupid that I can't rationally conceptualize the term "pro choice". Pro choice people give no fuks if there were zero abortions next year so long as that was the womens "choice". If the pregnancy wasn't forced on them and they made the "choice", there's that crafty word again, then pro "choice" people have to abide by those womens "decisions". Notice these words in quotation OBF? Just digest them for a moment.
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Yes, that's where I'm going. Life is Life and death is death. How can you define the starting point for life differently than the ending point?
I can almost guarantee that if I dig into claims and citations (if there are any) from a heavily pro life or religious site they'll be found out to not be 100% true.
The link I gave stating life begins at conception was from the American College of Pediatricians. I could list many many other sites with a quick google search also stating life begins at conception. In checking they are pro life but where are they wrong?
https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/life-issues/when-human-life-begins
"Yes, that's where I'm going. Life is Life and death is death. How can you define the starting point for life differently than the ending point?"
The simple answer for me is when cells start growing and when cells stop growing. A fertilized egg is in the process of growing new cells and living human beings are growing new cells constantly to replace dying ones. At death there are no new cells growing.
The link I gave stating life begins at conception was from the American College of Pediatricians. I could list many many other sites with a quick google search also stating life begins at conception. In checking they are pro life but where are they wrong?
The American College of Pediatricians is a conservative advocacy group, anti LGBT, etc.. Just FYI.
It's another example of conservative groups adapting legitimate sounding names to seem like a better source
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Actually we have some women in our church who did have abortions. Even though they repented and God has forgiven them they have a very difficult time forgiving themselves. Today they are active in trying to keep other women from making their mistake and are trying to prevent abortions.
good for them, that's how you reduce abortions. Not through the legal system. This is what annoys me to no end about pro lifers...they think pro choice people want women to have abortions. Which essentially is like raising one's hand and saying im so stupid that I can't rationally conceptualize the term "pro choice". Pro choice people give no fuks if there were zero abortions next year so long as that was the womens "choice". If the pregnancy wasn't forced on them and they made the "choice", there's that crafty word again, then pro "choice" people have to abide by those womens "decisions". Notice these words in quotation OBF? Just digest them for a moment.
good for them, that's how you reduce abortions. Not through the legal system. This is what annoys me to no end about pro lifers...they think pro choice people want women to have abortions. Which essentially is like raising one's hand and saying im so stupid that I can't rationally conceptualize the term "pro choice". Pro choice people give no fuks if there were zero abortions next year so long as that was the womens "choice". If the pregnancy wasn't forced on them and they made the "choice", there's that crafty word again, then pro "choice" people have to abide by those womens "decisions". Notice these words in quotation OBF? Just digest them for a moment.
I am all for choice except when the choice is the right to kill a baby in the womb.
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good for them, that's how you reduce abortions. Not through the legal system. This is what annoys me to no end about pro lifers...they think pro choice people want women to have abortions. Which essentially is like raising one's hand and saying im so stupid that I can't rationally conceptualize the term "pro choice". Pro choice people give no fuks if there were zero abortions next year so long as that was the womens "choice". If the pregnancy wasn't forced on them and they made the "choice", there's that crafty word again, then pro "choice" people have to abide by those womens "decisions". Notice these words in quotation OBF? Just digest them for a moment.
I am all for choice except when the choice is the right to kill a baby in the womb.
I am all for choice except when the choice is the right to kill a baby in the womb.
its not ur body its growing inside so its not ur call. 2000 years ago women had to understand they were baby chattel and nothing more. Societies "won" by having the most people, ie more soldiers to throw at the other cave people. He who had the largest herd won. That is the basis of ur religion. They codified that concept of over population through cool bible stories that never happened.
The people who controlled every religion, they wanted ofc to expand thrir control cause they were shitkunts. So they needed their people to have as many children as possible. Sex was purely for procreation for "the motherland" blah blah blah. Its amazing that religious leaders didnt think eventually people would catch on to this. Its just another nuance of the class warfare thats been going on since time began
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I am all for choice except when the choice is the right to kill a baby in the womb.
its not ur body its growing inside so its not ur call. 2000 years ago women had to understand they were baby chattel and nothing more. Societies "won" by having the most people, ie more soldiers to throw at the other cave people. He who had the largest herd won. That is the basis of ur religion. They codified that concept of over population through cool bible stories that never happened.
The people who controlled every religion, they wanted ofc to expand thrir control cause they were shitkunts. So they needed their people to have as many children as possible. Sex was purely for procreation for "the motherland" blah blah blah. Its amazing that religious leaders didnt think eventually people would catch on to this. Its just another nuance of the class warfare thats been going on since time began
its not ur body its growing inside so its not ur call. 2000 years ago women had to understand they were baby chattel and nothing more. Societies "won" by having the most people, ie more soldiers to throw at the other cave people. He who had the largest herd won. That is the basis of ur religion. They codified that concept of over population through cool bible stories that never happened.
The people who controlled every religion, they wanted ofc to expand thrir control cause they were shitkunts. So they needed their people to have as many children as possible. Sex was purely for procreation for "the motherland" blah blah blah. Its amazing that religious leaders didnt think eventually people would catch on to this. Its just another nuance of the class warfare thats been going on since time began
Stuart
This is as bad as when you guys play the 'Crusades' card Cleve.
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The brave new world of the left where an accusation with no corroboration is enough to destroy any man. Women are to be believed always. It is up to the accused to prove their innocence instead of the accuser. There is no presumption of innocence for the accused. This is the stuff of the Salem witch hunts, the Spanish Inquisition and communist countries. If you dare don't go along with the mob the Soros paid mob will come for you. Thankfully it failed (barely) with Kavanaugh. Thankfully we had some people with courage who stood up to the Soros rent a mob and the screaming banshees.
In the bible Joseph was charged by a woman for attempted rape. He was innocent, the alleged victim lied and off Joseph went to prison. Please don't tell me any more stupidity that women don't lie. The left would claim Joseph's lying accuser was a survivor. The foundations of our justice system date back to Moses with witnesses and evidence needed to find the accused guilty, not just an accusation.
The brave new world of the left where an accusation with no corroboration is enough to destroy any man. Women are to be believed always. It is up to the accused to prove their innocence instead of the accuser. There is no presumption of innocence for the accused. This is the stuff of the Salem witch hunts, the Spanish Inquisition and communist countries. If you dare don't go along with the mob the Soros paid mob will come for you. Thankfully it failed (barely) with Kavanaugh. Thankfully we had some people with courage who stood up to the Soros rent a mob and the screaming banshees.
In the bible Joseph was charged by a woman for attempted rape. He was innocent, the alleged victim lied and off Joseph went to prison. Please don't tell me any more stupidity that women don't lie. The left would claim Joseph's lying accuser was a survivor. The foundations of our justice system date back to Moses with witnesses and evidence needed to find the accused guilty, not just an accusation.
It's odd that the author would use those as examples, since they were both perpetrated by Christians, in the name of Jesus and the Christian god.
Throw Ford into the nearest lake, then. If she sinks, Kavanaugh is guilty, if she floats, he's innocent.
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The brave new world of the left where an accusation with no corroboration is enough to destroy any man. Women are to be believed always. It is up to the accused to prove their innocence instead of the accuser. There is no presumption of innocence for the accused. This is the stuff of the Salem witch hunts, the Spanish Inquisition and communist countries. If you dare don't go along with the mob the Soros paid mob will come for you. Thankfully it failed (barely) with Kavanaugh. Thankfully we had some people with courage who stood up to the Soros rent a mob and the screaming banshees.
In the bible Joseph was charged by a woman for attempted rape. He was innocent, the alleged victim lied and off Joseph went to prison. Please don't tell me any more stupidity that women don't lie. The left would claim Joseph's lying accuser was a survivor. The foundations of our justice system date back to Moses with witnesses and evidence needed to find the accused guilty, not just an accusation.
It's odd that the author would use those as examples, since they were both perpetrated by Christians, in the name of Jesus and the Christian god.
Throw Ford into the nearest lake, then. If she sinks, Kavanaugh is guilty, if she floats, he's innocent.
It's odd that the author would use those as examples, since they were both perpetrated by Christians, in the name of Jesus and the Christian god.
Throw Ford into the nearest lake, then. If she sinks, Kavanaugh is guilty, if she floats, he's innocent.
It is called being intellectually honest. I knew those were not good examples of Christianity. These were evil deeds done in the name of Jesus. You are aware Jesus warned there were going to be those who claimed to know Him and do things in His name that He is going to tell them He never knew Them.
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That sounds like the standard "well those aren't real Christians" response while all of those terrorists are real Islam.
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That sounds like the standard "well those aren't real Christians" response while all of those terrorists are real Islam.
That sounds like the standard "well those aren't real Christians" response while all of those terrorists are real Islam.
The difference is the Islamic terrorists have scriptures in the koran they use to justify their acts of violence. The Islamic radical terrorists claim they are the real Muslims because they are following the koran.
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That sounds like the standard "well those aren't real Christians" response while all of those terrorists are real Islam.
The difference is the Islamic terrorists have scriptures in the koran they use to justify their acts of violence. The Islamic radical terrorists claim they are the real Muslims because they are following the koran.
The difference is the Islamic terrorists have scriptures in the koran they use to justify their acts of violence. The Islamic radical terrorists claim they are the real Muslims because they are following the koran.
didnt christians in decades past use bible scrips to justify not only discrimibation but also acts of physixal violence against gay people?
and do christians not abide by the forceful ejection of palestinians from their lands in 1948 based on biblical scriptures? people who did nothing to jews btw...
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I was on manueuvers in Germany when this attack took place.
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