Great Quarterback Rivalries
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jiggins-report this morning is that Green has an excellent chance of playing this Sunday.
jiggins-report this morning is that Green has an excellent chance of playing this Sunday.
Bah....oh well. A good challenge for Denzel Ward!
Speaking of receivers, does anybody find it odd that we don't throw it to Devalve more often? Man, I really thought he'd be a major factor this year. And Baker completed passes to like 9 different guys last week and Devalve still didn't get a ball. Weird right? I know Devalve was hurt early, but geez.
Yeah Gip I know we're talking QBs, but my memory of those Super Bowls is pretty foggy....
But regarding the Bengals, Green dressed for the Ravens game, and was on the sideline, so little surprise he's likely to play Sunday.
PS Ward would be giving up a lot of height to the 6'4" Green, so don't be surprised at all if the Browns use the same tactic they used against Julio Jones, double him with taller defensive backs...
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jiggins-report this morning is that Green has an excellent chance of playing this Sunday.
Bah....oh well. A good challenge for Denzel Ward!
Speaking of receivers, does anybody find it odd that we don't throw it to Devalve more often? Man, I really thought he'd be a major factor this year. And Baker completed passes to like 9 different guys last week and Devalve still didn't get a ball. Weird right? I know Devalve was hurt early, but geez.
Yeah Gip I know we're talking QBs, but my memory of those Super Bowls is pretty foggy....
But regarding the Bengals, Green dressed for the Ravens game, and was on the sideline, so little surprise he's likely to play Sunday.
PS Ward would be giving up a lot of height to the 6'4" Green, so don't be surprised at all if the Browns use the same tactic they used against Julio Jones, double him with taller defensive backs...
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What is, perhaps the Super Bowl that matched up the two "worst" QBs?
Brad Johnson/Rich Gannon (Bucs vs Raiders)
Trent Dilfer/Kerry Collins (Ravens vs. Giants)
Jim Plunkett vs. Ron Jaworski (Raiders vs. Eagles)
Jim McMahon vs. Tony Eason (Bears vs. Pats)
My opinion is that likely the worst two QBs to ever take a team to the Super Bowl were David Woodley and Rex Grossman.
Fair to say?
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What is, perhaps the Super Bowl that matched up the two "worst" QBs?
Brad Johnson/Rich Gannon (Bucs vs Raiders)
Trent Dilfer/Kerry Collins (Ravens vs. Giants)
Jim Plunkett vs. Ron Jaworski (Raiders vs. Eagles)
Jim McMahon vs. Tony Eason (Bears vs. Pats)
My opinion is that likely the worst two QBs to ever take a team to the Super Bowl were David Woodley and Rex Grossman.
Fair to say?
What is, perhaps the Super Bowl that matched up the two "worst" QBs?
Jim Plunkett vs. Ron Jaworski (Raiders vs. Eagles)
No way Jose. Jim Plunkett was a winner, and Jaworski wasn't a slouch. That should have been Sipe vs Jaworski, but....
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What is, perhaps the Super Bowl that matched up the two "worst" QBs?
Jim Plunkett vs. Ron Jaworski (Raiders vs. Eagles)
No way Jose. Jim Plunkett was a winner, and Jaworski wasn't a slouch. That should have been Sipe vs Jaworski, but....
No way Jose. Jim Plunkett was a winner, and Jaworski wasn't a slouch. That should have been Sipe vs Jaworski, but....
So what DO you consider the worst QB matchup to ever take place in a Super Bowl? the following are the ONLY SB matchups where neither of the QBs have made the HOF..(or did not include the likes of Peyton, Brady, BR, Rodgers, Brees..future HOFers)
Brad Johnson/Rich Gannon (Bucs vs Raiders)
Trent Dilfer/Kerry Collins (Ravens vs. Giants)
Jim Plunkett vs. Ron Jaworski (Raiders vs. Eagles)
Jim McMahon vs. Tony Eason (Bears vs. Pats)
Joe Theisman vs. David Woodley (Redskins/Dolphins)
Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett (Redskins/Raiders)
Joe Flacco vs. Colin Kaepernick (Ravens/49ers)
so...what was the worst QB matchup?
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What is, perhaps the Super Bowl that matched up the two "worst" QBs?
Jim Plunkett vs. Ron Jaworski (Raiders vs. Eagles)
No way Jose. Jim Plunkett was a winner, and Jaworski wasn't a slouch. That should have been Sipe vs Jaworski, but....
No way Jose. Jim Plunkett was a winner, and Jaworski wasn't a slouch. That should have been Sipe vs Jaworski, but....
Jaws was a good QB he was a freshman when I was a Sophomore at YSU he was part of the early turnaround of YSU football.
YSU was a D-II school back then but was a rare D-II invite to the Senior Bowl and was named the game MVP and impressed the NFL scouts Just FYI.
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No way Jose. Jim Plunkett was a winner, and Jaworski wasn't a slouch. That should have been Sipe vs Jaworski, but....
So what DO you consider the worst QB matchup to ever take place in a Super Bowl? the following are the ONLY SB matchups where neither of the QBs have made the HOF..(or did not include the likes of Peyton, Brady, BR, Rodgers, Brees..future HOFers)
Brad Johnson/Rich Gannon (Bucs vs Raiders)
Trent Dilfer/Kerry Collins (Ravens vs. Giants)
Jim Plunkett vs. Ron Jaworski (Raiders vs. Eagles)
Jim McMahon vs. Tony Eason (Bears vs. Pats)
Joe Theisman vs. David Woodley (Redskins/Dolphins)
Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett (Redskins/Raiders)
Joe Flacco vs. Colin Kaepernick (Ravens/49ers)
so...what was the worst QB matchup?
So what DO you consider the worst QB matchup to ever take place in a Super Bowl? the following are the ONLY SB matchups where neither of the QBs have made the HOF..(or did not include the likes of Peyton, Brady, BR, Rodgers, Brees..future HOFers)
Brad Johnson/Rich Gannon (Bucs vs Raiders)
Trent Dilfer/Kerry Collins (Ravens vs. Giants)
Jim Plunkett vs. Ron Jaworski (Raiders vs. Eagles)
Jim McMahon vs. Tony Eason (Bears vs. Pats)
Joe Theisman vs. David Woodley (Redskins/Dolphins)
Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett (Redskins/Raiders)
Joe Flacco vs. Colin Kaepernick (Ravens/49ers)
so...what was the worst QB matchup?
Well if I had to pick one, I guess I'd say McMahon vs Eason. I happened to like McMahon, but obviously the Bears defense was the show. IMHO, the 1985 Bears was the best defense ever (for a single season).
Tony Eason got hot at the right time, and that Patriots team was the 1st ever to win 3 road playoff games if I recall.
The Theismann-Woodley matchup was the strike-shortened season, but that's a close 2nd I suppose.
Elway vs Doug Williams is honorable mention, but not on your list.
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So what DO you consider the worst QB matchup to ever take place in a Super Bowl? the following are the ONLY SB matchups where neither of the QBs have made the HOF..(or did not include the likes of Peyton, Brady, BR, Rodgers, Brees..future HOFers)
Brad Johnson/Rich Gannon (Bucs vs Raiders)
Trent Dilfer/Kerry Collins (Ravens vs. Giants)
Jim Plunkett vs. Ron Jaworski (Raiders vs. Eagles)
Jim McMahon vs. Tony Eason (Bears vs. Pats)
Joe Theisman vs. David Woodley (Redskins/Dolphins)
Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett (Redskins/Raiders)
Joe Flacco vs. Colin Kaepernick (Ravens/49ers)
so...what was the worst QB matchup?
Well if I had to pick one, I guess I'd say McMahon vs Eason. I happened to like McMahon, but obviously the Bears defense was the show. IMHO, the 1985 Bears was the best defense ever (for a single season).
Tony Eason got hot at the right time, and that Patriots team was the 1st ever to win 3 road playoff games if I recall.
The Theismann-Woodley matchup was the strike-shortened season, but that's a close 2nd I suppose.
Elway vs Doug Williams is honorable mention, but not on your list.
Well if I had to pick one, I guess I'd say McMahon vs Eason. I happened to like McMahon, but obviously the Bears defense was the show. IMHO, the 1985 Bears was the best defense ever (for a single season).
Tony Eason got hot at the right time, and that Patriots team was the 1st ever to win 3 road playoff games if I recall.
The Theismann-Woodley matchup was the strike-shortened season, but that's a close 2nd I suppose.
Elway vs Doug Williams is honorable mention, but not on your list.
Elway maybe one of the top 5 to 7 quarterbacks of all time so no that wouldn’t be one of the choices
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Well if I had to pick one, I guess I'd say McMahon vs Eason. I happened to like McMahon, but obviously the Bears defense was the show. IMHO, the 1985 Bears was the best defense ever (for a single season).
Tony Eason got hot at the right time, and that Patriots team was the 1st ever to win 3 road playoff games if I recall.
The Theismann-Woodley matchup was the strike-shortened season, but that's a close 2nd I suppose.
Elway vs Doug Williams is honorable mention, but not on your list.
Elway maybe one of the top 5 to 7 quarterbacks of all time so no that wouldn’t be one of the choices
Elway maybe one of the top 5 to 7 quarterbacks of all time so no that wouldn’t be one of the choices
Hey now, you scolded me for not giving an opinion, now I give one, and it's wrong?
Remember, as great as Elway was, his SB wins came with Terrell Davis and a great rushing attack. Without that, they were AFC Kings and in Marty's head.
Additionally, Doug Williams wasn't a top-tier guy, he just happened to have a great playoff run with the Redskins.
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Elway maybe one of the top 5 to 7 quarterbacks of all time so no that wouldn’t be one of the choices
Hey now, you scolded me for not giving an opinion, now I give one, and it's wrong?
Remember, as great as Elway was, his SB wins came with Terrell Davis and a great rushing attack. Without that, they were AFC Kings and in Marty's head.
Additionally, Doug Williams wasn't a top-tier guy, he just happened to have a great playoff run with the Redskins.
Hey now, you scolded me for not giving an opinion, now I give one, and it's wrong?
Remember, as great as Elway was, his SB wins came with Terrell Davis and a great rushing attack. Without that, they were AFC Kings and in Marty's head.
Additionally, Doug Williams wasn't a top-tier guy, he just happened to have a great playoff run with the Redskins.
I was talking about the combination of both qbs and yes if your opinion is that Elway was not on the best quarterbacks of all time then yes your opinion is objectively wrong....as much as it pains me to say so
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Hey now, you scolded me for not giving an opinion, now I give one, and it's wrong?
Remember, as great as Elway was, his SB wins came with Terrell Davis and a great rushing attack. Without that, they were AFC Kings and in Marty's head.
Additionally, Doug Williams wasn't a top-tier guy, he just happened to have a great playoff run with the Redskins.
I was talking about the combination of both qbs and yes if your opinion is that Elway was not on the best quarterbacks of all time then yes your opinion is objectively wrong....as much as it pains me to say so
I was talking about the combination of both qbs and yes if your opinion is that Elway was not on the best quarterbacks of all time then yes your opinion is objectively wrong....as much as it pains me to say so
Well according the the QB rating gobbeldy- gook (which I'm not really a fan of) they had Elway at 60th all time through 2014. Elway is obviously way better than 60th on the eye test, and I'd put him in my top 10.
BUT....I maintain Elway vs Williams wasn't a good combo match-up in the Super Bowl.
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I was talking about the combination of both qbs and yes if your opinion is that Elway was not on the best quarterbacks of all time then yes your opinion is objectively wrong....as much as it pains me to say so
Well according the the QB rating gobbeldy- gook (which I'm not really a fan of) they had Elway at 60th all time through 2014. Elway is obviously way better than 60th on the eye test, and I'd put him in my top 10.
BUT....I maintain Elway vs Williams wasn't a good combo match-up in the Super Bowl.
Well according the the QB rating gobbeldy- gook (which I'm not really a fan of) they had Elway at 60th all time through 2014. Elway is obviously way better than 60th on the eye test, and I'd put him in my top 10.
BUT....I maintain Elway vs Williams wasn't a good combo match-up in the Super Bowl.
Passer rating IS a bogus statistic. I mean that link you gave would have Chad Pennington, Jeff Garcia, David Garrard and Trent Green in the top 20 QBs all time.
And Starrr, Tarkenton, Unitas, Graham, Elway, Bradshaw...and others wouldn't even be in the Top 50.
And while Elway/Williams may not be on the top of the heap as far as SB starting QBs go.....it is far, far from the worst. If you divided all SB games into Quartiles...it would probably be in the third quartile somewhere.
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