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  • and less superduper educated moron dipsticks like this one:

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    American Politician
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is an American politician, educator, and political activist. On June 26, 2018, Ocasio-Cortez won the Democratic primary in New York's 14th congressional district covering parts ... Wikipedia
     
    Born: October 13, 1989 (age 29 years), The Bronx, New York City, NY
     
    Nationality: American
  • liberals' heroine:

    NO ONE is this dense! Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez makes a fool of ...

     
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez makes a fool of herself yet AGAIN with tweet on single-payer (screenshot). Posted at 9:37 am on November 25, 2018 by Sam J.
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    Why don't you ask the OP? The OP made a thread about what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said on twitter. I"m just commenting within the thread.
    Alexandria Ocasio Cortez makes a fool of herself. admin November 7, 2018 0. Spread the love. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez makes a fool of herself ...
    Jul 29, 2018 - Socialist darling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently appeared on Comedy Central (fitting, no?) and made a complete fool of herself. For starters ...
  • way back, years ago, there was this PHD from India. I had my two yr degree. We worked in a high tech R&D lab.I was the only programmer/analyst.

    I wrote a calculations program for a very, very complex test that involved two crazy scientific really long and complex algorithms.Short version - my program calculated in about one second the right answer every time.I ened up in the VP's office, with the PHD ridiculing me for my program that kept getting the answers wrong.

    He even called me an incompetent fool. So, I went up to the white board, and explained my understanding of the whole scientific test, and my interpretations of the algorithms' proper calculation process in order.

       The VP got on the phone, and called an expert in the field that he knew. Turned out, I was absolutely correct, and the PHDwas completely wrong in how he calc'ed with his calculator. He went from yelling at me, to quietly apologizing. He was stunned.

      After that, he took us out to a local Indian food restaurant, and he kept taking me out every so often.

    The chicken drumsticks soaked in some kind of red beet brine something was really good.

    I spent many years fixing code of programs that were poorly written and didn't function properly - written by bachelor of computer science degreed higher educated incompetents.

       It isn't that you get a degree - it's still the innate skills that lends itself to the person being excellent in the field.

  • Even a stopped clock is correct at least twice a day.  I agree with  Cortez on this. There is no bigger fish representing crony capitalism than Amazon:

    Ocasio-Cortez takes on the Amazon fight in New York

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/22/amazon-hq-2-new-york-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-1012546

    Nolte: Crony Capitalism: Democrats Give Away $2 Billion in Welfare to Amazon

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/13/nolte-crony-capitalism-democrats-give-away-2-billion-in-welfare-to-amazon/

    How Does One Stop Cronyism? One Crony At A Time

    https://www.redstate.com/setonmotley/2018/11/27/one-stop-cronyism-one-crony-time/

  • Steve the "anti education" bias from you is too strong. Bordering on some kind of resentment.

    The teacher bashing is just the cherry on top. Jesus

    You say "well I guess there are exceptions to every rule" while simultaneously acting like an exception is a rule. 

    You're just spouting off claims with 0 data to back it up and then acting like we need to prove you wrong. I mean I get that's 90% of this board but come on. Have some level of common sense.

    @mld-woody said:

    Steve the "anti education" bias from you is too strong. Bordering on some kind of resentment.

     why, I went to college? What's your point? I'm not going to get a part in a movie because I aced my theater classes.

    The teacher bashing is just the cherry on top. Jesus

     teaching is one of the most overrated jobs in the United States. I would wager to say that anybody on this board could teach High School with a few months of training. Maybe not stem glasses but by and large. Teachers probably work 40% less than your average worker and make about twice the average wage in Ohio. Exceptions? Yes. There are some who are dedicated and wonderful. For every one of them there are probably five that are just taking up space and probably one or two that are actual detriments to learning.

    You say "well I guess there are exceptions to every rule" while simultaneously acting like an exception is a rule. 

     see above

    You're just spouting off claims with 0 data to back it up and then acting like we need to prove you wrong. I mean I get that's 90% of this board but come on. Have some level of common sense.

     Common Sense? Surely you jest.

     letting the teachers union lead you around by the balls is not common sense.

    WSS

  • Warning attempted hijacking in progress!!!

  • Hey, that's the first time you posted anything resembling data. I guess that's progress. Though I'm sure you're gonna stretch exactly what political affiliation means in this case. 

  • Warning attempted hijacking in progress!!!

    @cccjwh said:

    Warning attempted hijacking in progress!!!

    Right? What an attempt at a hard left turn. He must have been watching something today that said Cortez is the devil. Just repeating what he saw.

  • way back, years ago, there was this PHD from India. I had my two yr degree. We worked in a high tech R&D lab.I was the only programmer/analyst.

    I wrote a calculations program for a very, very complex test that involved two crazy scientific really long and complex algorithms.Short version - my program calculated in about one second the right answer every time.I ened up in the VP's office, with the PHD ridiculing me for my program that kept getting the answers wrong.

    He even called me an incompetent fool. So, I went up to the white board, and explained my understanding of the whole scientific test, and my interpretations of the algorithms' proper calculation process in order.

       The VP got on the phone, and called an expert in the field that he knew. Turned out, I was absolutely correct, and the PHDwas completely wrong in how he calc'ed with his calculator. He went from yelling at me, to quietly apologizing. He was stunned.

      After that, he took us out to a local Indian food restaurant, and he kept taking me out every so often.

    The chicken drumsticks soaked in some kind of red beet brine something was really good.

    I spent many years fixing code of programs that were poorly written and didn't function properly - written by bachelor of computer science degreed higher educated incompetents.

       It isn't that you get a degree - it's still the innate skills that lends itself to the person being excellent in the field.

    @calfoxwc said:

    way back, years ago, there was this PHD from India. I had my two yr degree. We worked in a high tech R&D lab.I was the only programmer/analyst.

    I wrote a calculations program for a very, very complex test that involved two crazy scientific really long and complex algorithms.Short version - my program calculated in about one second the right answer every time.I ened up in the VP's office, with the PHD ridiculing me for my program that kept getting the answers wrong.

    He even called me an incompetent fool. So, I went up to the white board, and explained my understanding of the whole scientific test, and my interpretations of the algorithms' proper calculation process in order.

       The VP got on the phone, and called an expert in the field that he knew. Turned out, I was absolutely correct, and the PHDwas completely wrong in how he calc'ed with his calculator. He went from yelling at me, to quietly apologizing. He was stunned.

      After that, he took us out to a local Indian food restaurant, and he kept taking me out every so often.

    The chicken drumsticks soaked in some kind of red beet brine something was really good.

    I spent many years fixing code of programs that were poorly written and didn't function properly - written by bachelor of computer science degreed higher educated incompetents.

       It isn't that you get a degree - it's still the innate skills that lends itself to the person being excellent in the field.

    I'll take "Things That Didn't Happen" for $800 Alex

  • 3 posts in a row for the peckerhead! 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    way back, years ago, there was this PHD from India. I had my two yr degree. We worked in a high tech R&D lab.I was the only programmer/analyst.

    I wrote a calculations program for a very, very complex test that involved two crazy scientific really long and complex algorithms.Short version - my program calculated in about one second the right answer every time.I ened up in the VP's office, with the PHD ridiculing me for my program that kept getting the answers wrong.

    He even called me an incompetent fool. So, I went up to the white board, and explained my understanding of the whole scientific test, and my interpretations of the algorithms' proper calculation process in order.

       The VP got on the phone, and called an expert in the field that he knew. Turned out, I was absolutely correct, and the PHDwas completely wrong in how he calc'ed with his calculator. He went from yelling at me, to quietly apologizing. He was stunned.

      After that, he took us out to a local Indian food restaurant, and he kept taking me out every so often.

    The chicken drumsticks soaked in some kind of red beet brine something was really good.

    I spent many years fixing code of programs that were poorly written and didn't function properly - written by bachelor of computer science degreed higher educated incompetents.

       It isn't that you get a degree - it's still the innate skills that lends itself to the person being excellent in the field.

    I'll take "Things That Didn't Happen" for $800 Alex

    @mld-woody said:

    I'll take "Things That Didn't Happen" for $800 Alex

    yet, it is true,  woodypeckerhead. you are so jealous of everybody who actually has lived life greatly.

    someday, maybe you will have one. or....not.

  • Hey, that's the first time you posted anything resembling data. I guess that's progress. Though I'm sure you're gonna stretch exactly what political affiliation means in this case. 

    @mld-woody said:

    Hey, that's the first time you posted anything resembling data. I guess that's progress. Though I'm sure you're gonna stretch exactly what political affiliation means in this case. 

    But posting a random slew of numbers really doesn't have anything to do with the opinion I put forth which I believe is valid. Education is fine oh, it makes some people feel better about themselves and in some cases trains a person for a career. Of course  some people tend to become arrogant  because they have a masters in something  it's not particularly useful to the real world .  I think teachers are among that group. When I was in college there were job postings all over the walls at the Student Center I can't specifically say it was most of them but it could have been that a red any degree. 

    WSS

  • "the over educated are often less successful"

    ... That's where a "ramdon slew of numbers" (read: evidence and data) would be very helpful.

    And that was just the first claim you made. You followed up with more on your anti education kick with little to nothing to support it. 

  • "the over educated are often less successful"

    ... That's where a "ramdon slew of numbers" (read: evidence and data) would be very helpful.

    And that was just the first claim you made. You followed up with more on your anti education kick with little to nothing to support it. 

    @mld-woody said:

    "the over educated are often less successful"

    ... That's where a "ramdon slew of numbers" (read: evidence and data) would be very helpful.

    And that was just the first claim you made. You followed up with more on your anti education kick with little to nothing to support it. 

    Like the one example I poste, which I think are valid. That would include teachers, many of which are required to get master's degrees just because of the benefits of the cake job they hope to get and not because more education makes them better teachers. Philosophy, sociology, women's studies, African studies Etc Majors have useless degrees. I could probably add theater Majors to that list.

    I'll repeat I think everyone on this board could be trained to teach most High School classes within a few weeks. 

    So there lies my disrespect for their profession. Such as it is.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    "the over educated are often less successful"

    ... That's where a "ramdon slew of numbers" (read: evidence and data) would be very helpful.

    And that was just the first claim you made. You followed up with more on your anti education kick with little to nothing to support it. 

    Like the one example I poste, which I think are valid. That would include teachers, many of which are required to get master's degrees just because of the benefits of the cake job they hope to get and not because more education makes them better teachers. Philosophy, sociology, women's studies, African studies Etc Majors have useless degrees. I could probably add theater Majors to that list.

    I'll repeat I think everyone on this board could be trained to teach most High School classes within a few weeks. 

    So there lies my disrespect for their profession. Such as it is.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Like the one example I poste, which I think are valid. That would include teachers, many of which are required to get master's degrees just because of the benefits of the cake job they hope to get and not because more education makes them better teachers. Philosophy, sociology, women's studies, African studies Etc Majors have useless degrees. I could probably add theater Majors to that list.

    I'll repeat I think everyone on this board could be trained to teach most High School classes within a few weeks. 

    So there lies my disrespect for their profession. Such as it is.

    WSS

    In order to teach something at a high level you have to learn and understand it at a high level. Again your feeling don't mean shit to anybody but yourself. Just empty assertions. Go ahead and teach some calculus to everyone here. I took three semesters of it in college and I couldn't teach it well. 

  • @westside-steve said:

    Like the one example I poste, which I think are valid. That would include teachers, many of which are required to get master's degrees just because of the benefits of the cake job they hope to get and not because more education makes them better teachers. Philosophy, sociology, women's studies, African studies Etc Majors have useless degrees. I could probably add theater Majors to that list.

    I'll repeat I think everyone on this board could be trained to teach most High School classes within a few weeks. 

    So there lies my disrespect for their profession. Such as it is.

    WSS

    In order to teach something at a high level you have to learn and understand it at a high level. Again your feeling don't mean shit to anybody but yourself. Just empty assertions. Go ahead and teach some calculus to everyone here. I took three semesters of it in college and I couldn't teach it well. 

    @cccjwh said:

    In order to teach something at a high level you have to learn and understand it at a high level. Again your feeling don't mean shit to anybody but yourself. Just empty assertions. Go ahead and teach some calculus to everyone here. I took three semesters of it in college and I couldn't teach it well. 

    Too bad you didn't take a couple of semesters of reading comprehension. If you did you would notice that I said most and I believe earlier I did not include in stem classes.

    But yes in most courses you'd have to have a basic understanding of the high school level. And I don't think that's a very high bar Basically you have to know just a little bit more than the kids. Let me ask you, besides  a couple science courses  what other courses do you think you'd have  a problem brushing up on  in a few weeks?  You have your lesson plan handed to you on your first day and it doesn't change. If you don't have the aptitude for it it doesn't matter if you have a doctorate degree and English literature you won't be a good teacher.

    WSS

  • @cccjwh said:

    In order to teach something at a high level you have to learn and understand it at a high level. Again your feeling don't mean shit to anybody but yourself. Just empty assertions. Go ahead and teach some calculus to everyone here. I took three semesters of it in college and I couldn't teach it well. 

    Too bad you didn't take a couple of semesters of reading comprehension. If you did you would notice that I said most and I believe earlier I did not include in stem classes.

    But yes in most courses you'd have to have a basic understanding of the high school level. And I don't think that's a very high bar Basically you have to know just a little bit more than the kids. Let me ask you, besides  a couple science courses  what other courses do you think you'd have  a problem brushing up on  in a few weeks?  You have your lesson plan handed to you on your first day and it doesn't change. If you don't have the aptitude for it it doesn't matter if you have a doctorate degree and English literature you won't be a good teacher.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Too bad you didn't take a couple of semesters of reading comprehension. If you did you would notice that I said most and I believe earlier I did not include in stem classes.

    But yes in most courses you'd have to have a basic understanding of the high school level. And I don't think that's a very high bar Basically you have to know just a little bit more than the kids. Let me ask you, besides  a couple science courses  what other courses do you think you'd have  a problem brushing up on  in a few weeks?  You have your lesson plan handed to you on your first day and it doesn't change. If you don't have the aptitude for it it doesn't matter if you have a doctorate degree and English literature you won't be a good teacher.

    WSS

    What you are describing is the same with almost any job out there. I ran a new circuit in my house, does that mean I can be an electrician? I do my own taxes, does that mean an accountant? 

  • @westside-steve said:

    Too bad you didn't take a couple of semesters of reading comprehension. If you did you would notice that I said most and I believe earlier I did not include in stem classes.

    But yes in most courses you'd have to have a basic understanding of the high school level. And I don't think that's a very high bar Basically you have to know just a little bit more than the kids. Let me ask you, besides  a couple science courses  what other courses do you think you'd have  a problem brushing up on  in a few weeks?  You have your lesson plan handed to you on your first day and it doesn't change. If you don't have the aptitude for it it doesn't matter if you have a doctorate degree and English literature you won't be a good teacher.

    WSS

    What you are describing is the same with almost any job out there. I ran a new circuit in my house, does that mean I can be an electrician? I do my own taxes, does that mean an accountant? 

    @cccjwh said:

    What you are describing is the same with almost any job out there. I ran a new circuit in my house, does that mean I can be an electrician? I do my own taxes, does that mean an accountant? 

    First of all running a circuit means that you did the job that electrician might do for 65 bucks an hour. If you did your own taxes you did a job that an accountant would charge you a couple hundred bucks for minimum. 

    What is it that you think teachers do on a day-to-day basis that you couldn't? I will assume that there are larger and more complicated jobs that an accountant or an electrician are called upon to do. Teachers? I don't think so.

    WSS

  • @cccjwh said:

    What you are describing is the same with almost any job out there. I ran a new circuit in my house, does that mean I can be an electrician? I do my own taxes, does that mean an accountant? 

    First of all running a circuit means that you did the job that electrician might do for 65 bucks an hour. If you did your own taxes you did a job that an accountant would charge you a couple hundred bucks for minimum. 

    What is it that you think teachers do on a day-to-day basis that you couldn't? I will assume that there are larger and more complicated jobs that an accountant or an electrician are called upon to do. Teachers? I don't think so.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    First of all running a circuit means that you did the job that electrician might do for 65 bucks an hour. If you did your own taxes you did a job that an accountant would charge you a couple hundred bucks for minimum. 

    What is it that you think teachers do on a day-to-day basis that you couldn't? I will assume that there are larger and more complicated jobs that an accountant or an electrician are called upon to do. Teachers? I don't think so.

    WSS

      Some teachers, maybe plenty of them, get their degree and can't teach squat - their personality/lack of ability gets in the way.

    Just like getting a computer science degree doesn't give you the innate ability to be good at it. If I had gotten a degree in music, does that mean I could be Elvis-like, like Steve? Heck, no. Now, back in the day, I could play some good guitar cords and me and my best friend could sing a few Simon and Garfunkel songs not half-bad. Now, retired, I am sure I COULD sing them half bad. lol

    Understanding a subject doesn't mean you have the skills to educate others as to your understanding. Communication is two way street.