HEY Jimmy put a lid on it
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First of all, I have NO problem with Baker saying what he did. In fact, I freaking love it. I mean, the balls on this kid, right? And this is what our team needed. In fact, it's one of the biggest reasons I was screaming to draft him since about February. I said we needed the attitude almost more than we needed the talent.
As far as the concessions go, the entire entertainment universe can go suck a bag. I don't know when it all started to go so wrong, but a freaking beer should not be $12. It's deplorable and completely unethical, and frankly, I've been tired of it for years. Things were much different in my father's generation, and they somehow made a family work on ONE income AND somehow found money for some kind of family vacation and sporting events. How many families thrive on one income now? Not many. I live in Florida and try to go to a game a year, and THAT'S financially difficult. And the game I went to was fun (Saints), but I will NEVER go to another dome game in my life. Nothing but advertisements all game long over the speakers, and it was just terrible. Hated it.
Anytime I have gone to a game....the couple of away games, and those at home, I never buy the concessions. I do my eating and drinking before the game...and then after. You won't starve if you don't eat during the game, and you won't die of thirst as long as you have hydrated beforehand.
Anytime I have gone to a game....the couple of away games, and those at home, I never buy the concessions. I do my eating and drinking before the game...and then after. You won't starve if you don't eat during the game, and you won't die of thirst as long as you have hydrated beforehand.
Of course not, but that's not really the point. Just because you CAN charge a certain amount, doesn't mean you should.
Check out what the Falcons did. Makes perfect sense to me.
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Anytime I have gone to a game....the couple of away games, and those at home, I never buy the concessions. I do my eating and drinking before the game...and then after. You won't starve if you don't eat during the game, and you won't die of thirst as long as you have hydrated beforehand.
Of course not, but that's not really the point. Just because you CAN charge a certain amount, doesn't mean you should.
Check out what the Falcons did. Makes perfect sense to me.
Of course not, but that's not really the point. Just because you CAN charge a certain amount, doesn't mean you should.
Check out what the Falcons did. Makes perfect sense to me.
Those prices are reasonable.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Anytime I have gone to a game....the couple of away games, and those at home, I never buy the concessions. I do my eating and drinking before the game...and then after. You won't starve if you don't eat during the game, and you won't die of thirst as long as you have hydrated beforehand.
Of course not, but that's not really the point. Just because you CAN charge a certain amount, doesn't mean you should.
Check out what the Falcons did. Makes perfect sense to me.
Of course not, but that's not really the point. Just because you CAN charge a certain amount, doesn't mean you should.
Check out what the Falcons did. Makes perfect sense to me.
Well.....these stadiums WILL charge the maximum amount they think they can get away with.....even if they should or shouldn't. If you buy their shit at those prices then you just enable them to maintain those pricing policies. If nobody would buy their 12 dollar beers, then they would reduce the price.
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Of course not, but that's not really the point. Just because you CAN charge a certain amount, doesn't mean you should.
Check out what the Falcons did. Makes perfect sense to me.
Those prices are reasonable.
Those prices are reasonable.
Yes, very fair.
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Cleveland’s stadium is unique for one resin it sets right on the water and the wind and weather roar across that lake and the weather suck. Put side and a lid on to keep the wind and rain out and don’t heat it if that’s what you want But if I was to guess if you took a pole the mass majority would want a done.
Cleveland’s stadium is unique for one reason it sets right on the water and the wind and weather roar across that lake and the weather suck. Put side and a lid on to keep the wind and rain out and don’t heat it if that’s what you want But if I was to guess if you took a poll the mass majority would want a dome.
And I'd bet you'd be wrong. When First Energy was originally built- there was talk of making it a dome. But the vast majority of fans wanted it replicated as closely as possible to the old place. And if you want my major gripe about FE- that's exactly what they did, compared to other "new" stadiums like Paul Brown and Lucas Oil- the space behind the stands in Cleveland is sardine city. Other venues have at least two times (or more) the breathing room back there for halftime and pre & post game.
But regarding weather. Hell's bells, Cleveland weather doesn't usually even start getting bad until early November, and I've been at games in December when the temperature was in the 50s. Sorry, but that's just first class wimpitis. Do you realize there are electric socks and gloves for your types? I'll grant you this one concession. Sitting in the last couple rows of the 500 level on the North side of the stadium when the wind is coming off the Lake with the temperature in the 30s, isn't the most pleasant experience in the world. Been there, done that. So buy seats lower down.
Yawn- I was at the game Sunday, with a Tailgate temperature starting off at 17 degrees, and hate to tell you I wasn't cold- and I didn't even have all my heavy duty cold weather gear on. Some guys are just going to be too cheap to buy a pair of Sorel boots, lined windproof pants, couple layers of synthetics, a nice windproof parka, ski gloves, and a nice cap. Here's a good place to start shopping.... https://www.mountainhardwear.com/
If I do that brief snowmobiling trip, I may have to consult you on what to wear. You interested? It would be to northwest Michigan if I did it.
I'll certainly be more than happy to advise you on snowmobiling wear, but actually doing a snowmobile thing really doesn't appeal to me. Sounds like you're familiar with the area- and when we did skiing (before the wife broke her arm on a ski trip- sort of ended that activity) we did a couple trips up to Boyne and Boyne Highlands- and the outside temperatures were in the single digits. Ripping down a ski slope at 10+ mph put the wind chill well below zero.
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Of course not, but that's not really the point. Just because you CAN charge a certain amount, doesn't mean you should.
Check out what the Falcons did. Makes perfect sense to me.
Those prices are reasonable.
Those prices are reasonable.
Exactly. Those prices are PERFECT. Now compare those to Cleveland, or anywhere else. Not even close. If Atlanta can do it, we can do it. You make stuff more affordable and people won't have to load up before the game.
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I was at the game this pass Sunday and my view is first, I didn't think it was too cold this past Sunday. It wasn't the coldest game I have been too and every other game I have been too is in Charlotte. Also the seat prices were very good, for the seat I had at the game, would have been close to nose bleed in Charlotte. And playing outside for a northern team is advantage, those dome teams or southern teams don't want to play in the north outside in the winter. Winning will put more butts in the seats, not a dome.
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I'm probably going to shut this thread down soon- it's going nowhere, those that want living room comfort going to a game when it's in the 20s can travel to warmer climes and domed stadiums to watch the Browns when the weather gets cold. As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran and the Cardinals in Arizona. Subject to change- the Broncos (again) and the Titans.
And to those wishin' and a hopein' for a dome in Cleveland- please come up with a rational plan on how to come up with the $200 million to make it happen. I'll be waiting for suggestions....
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I'm probably going to shut this thread down soon- it's going nowhere, those that want living room comfort going to a game when it's in the 20s can travel to warmer climes and domed stadiums to watch the Browns when the weather gets cold. As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran and the Cardinals in Arizona. Subject to change- the Broncos (again) and the Titans.
And to those wishin' and a hopein' for a dome in Cleveland- please come up with a rational plan on how to come up with the $200 million to make it happen. I'll be waiting for suggestions....
As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran.
Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play. Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate. Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.
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As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran.
Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play. Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate. Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.
Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play. Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate. Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.
LOL, what Mark Twain said- "the coldest winter I ever had was a summer in San Francisco." Well aware of that Mark when the fog rolls in off the ocean- 50 degrees is a pretty miserable cold and damp in those conditions...
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Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play. Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate. Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.
LOL, what Mark Twain said- "the coldest winter I ever had was a summer in San Francisco." Well aware of that Mark when the fog rolls in off the ocean- 50 degrees is a pretty miserable cold and damp in those conditions...
LOL, what Mark Twain said- "the coldest winter I ever had was a summer in San Francisco." Well aware of that Mark when the fog rolls in off the ocean- 50 degrees is a pretty miserable cold and damp in those conditions...
Coldest I've ever been at a sporting event. The January 1981 Browns/Raiders playoff game, Browns/Chargers in early December 2009 (WTF was I thinking), and Padres/Giants at Candlestink in September 1998, it was 80 degrees during the day that day and it was in the 40's during the game and felt colder. Ordered coffee, not to drink...just to hold onto it so it would keep my hands warm for awhile.
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I'm probably going to shut this thread down soon- it's going nowhere, those that want living room comfort going to a game when it's in the 20s can travel to warmer climes and domed stadiums to watch the Browns when the weather gets cold. As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran and the Cardinals in Arizona. Subject to change- the Broncos (again) and the Titans.
And to those wishin' and a hopein' for a dome in Cleveland- please come up with a rational plan on how to come up with the $200 million to make it happen. I'll be waiting for suggestions....
And to those wishin' and a hopein' for a dome in Cleveland- please come up with a rational plan on how to come up with the $200 million to make it happen. I'll be waiting for suggestions....
How do the insanely rich folks who own professional sports teams usually get their palaces built that their teams play in hoorta?
They figure out a way to get us working stiffs to pay for it.
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And to those wishin' and a hopein' for a dome in Cleveland- please come up with a rational plan on how to come up with the $200 million to make it happen. I'll be waiting for suggestions....
How do the insanely rich folks who own professional sports teams usually get their palaces built that their teams play in hoorta?
They figure out a way to get us working stiffs to pay for it.
How do the insanely rich folks who own professional sports teams usually get their palaces built that their teams play in hoorta?
They figure out a way to get us working stiffs to pay for it.
I said rational plan.
That's sort of my point. MHO there's no way the City of Cleveland or Cuyahoga County are going to fork out $200 million, just to put a Dome over the stadium. You'd have to get state money involved- even less likely- Ohio isn't Nevada. Haslam can't pull the extortion trick until 2024 either. Eventually- the affected communities- i.e. the working stiffs- are going to say a billion or two for a new NFL pleasure palace is too damn rich for our blood. San Diego and Oakland already did. What is it with these guys, you have a 20 year old stadium and it's already obsolete? & anyhow looks like Jimmy is\was just doing a feasibility study that will amount to nothing. The majority of us well knew when they built CBS, now known as First Energy- it was never designed to be retrofitted with a dome.
If you've been following this thread, going to an NFL game for a family of four has already been priced out of the reach of a lot of fans. So follow along- why would Joe Six Pack vote money to build, or improve a stadium that he can't even afford the price of admission to?
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How do the insanely rich folks who own professional sports teams usually get their palaces built that their teams play in hoorta?
They figure out a way to get us working stiffs to pay for it.
I said rational plan.
That's sort of my point. MHO there's no way the City of Cleveland or Cuyahoga County are going to fork out $200 million, just to put a Dome over the stadium. You'd have to get state money involved- even less likely- Ohio isn't Nevada. Haslam can't pull the extortion trick until 2024 either. Eventually- the affected communities- i.e. the working stiffs- are going to say a billion or two for a new NFL pleasure palace is too damn rich for our blood. San Diego and Oakland already did. What is it with these guys, you have a 20 year old stadium and it's already obsolete? & anyhow looks like Jimmy is\was just doing a feasibility study that will amount to nothing. The majority of us well knew when they built CBS, now known as First Energy- it was never designed to be retrofitted with a dome.
If you've been following this thread, going to an NFL game for a family of four has already been priced out of the reach of a lot of fans. So follow along- why would Joe Six Pack vote money to build, or improve a stadium that he can't even afford the price of admission to?
I said rational plan.
That's sort of my point. MHO there's no way the City of Cleveland or Cuyahoga County are going to fork out $200 million, just to put a Dome over the stadium. You'd have to get state money involved- even less likely- Ohio isn't Nevada. Haslam can't pull the extortion trick until 2024 either. Eventually- the affected communities- i.e. the working stiffs- are going to say a billion or two for a new NFL pleasure palace is too damn rich for our blood. San Diego and Oakland already did. What is it with these guys, you have a 20 year old stadium and it's already obsolete? & anyhow looks like Jimmy is\was just doing a feasibility study that will amount to nothing. The majority of us well knew when they built CBS, now known as First Energy- it was never designed to be retrofitted with a dome.
If you've been following this thread, going to an NFL game for a family of four has already been priced out of the reach of a lot of fans. So follow along- why would Joe Six Pack vote money to build, or improve a stadium that he can't even afford the price of admission to?
If I'm not mistaken.. Isnt the sin tax still in place?
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Baker came out and said he wants more fans in the stands. I don’t blame him for than he’s kept his ends of the bargain, but dam it’s cold this time of year. We have all been there this time of year and it’s cold but when the wind is blowing which is always fuk me I’m out sorry baker. So jimmy how bout you bust out some cash and put a roof on the stadium and enclose the sides. Hell he wouldn’t have to heat the dam place. But if this is a glimps of the future it’s time to sweeten the put and treat the fans just a little more
Baker came out and said he wants more fans in the stands. I don’t blame him for than he’s kept his ends of the bargain, but dam it’s cold this time of year. We have all been there this time of year and it’s cold but when the wind is blowing which is always fuk me I’m out sorry baker. So jimmy how bout you bust out some cash and put a roof on the stadium and enclose the sides. Hell he wouldn’t have to heat the dam place. But if this is a glimps of the future it’s time to sweeten the put and treat the fans just a little more
Hey Babernuts. and I say that with love. I am now worried about you. If you say blasphemous shit like this in public, you would get hung outside naked by your peepee and spray painted orange and Brown. As you can see from the reaction, to a real Browns fan the thought of a roof and an enclosed stadium is as appealing as offering free testicle removal using a football tee. Here are some statistics for you....
- Men who attend home games in a domed stadium are 137.288 % likely to become homosexual, if they already aren't.
- Women who attend home games in a domed stadium are whores, and 204.3 % more likely to have adultery in the bathrooms.
- Browns fans who talk about wanting a dome stadium are 3,751% more likely to be deported and/or have big things shoved up their ass
Don't be that guy. Go get yourself some battery headed underwear, put your granrled off, nubby divk into a thimble, cover it with a sock and go watch you some browns out in the elements. It'll make a man out of you.
? Nuthin but love, dude.
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I said rational plan.
That's sort of my point. MHO there's no way the City of Cleveland or Cuyahoga County are going to fork out $200 million, just to put a Dome over the stadium. You'd have to get state money involved- even less likely- Ohio isn't Nevada. Haslam can't pull the extortion trick until 2024 either. Eventually- the affected communities- i.e. the working stiffs- are going to say a billion or two for a new NFL pleasure palace is too damn rich for our blood. San Diego and Oakland already did. What is it with these guys, you have a 20 year old stadium and it's already obsolete? & anyhow looks like Jimmy is\was just doing a feasibility study that will amount to nothing. The majority of us well knew when they built CBS, now known as First Energy- it was never designed to be retrofitted with a dome.
If you've been following this thread, going to an NFL game for a family of four has already been priced out of the reach of a lot of fans. So follow along- why would Joe Six Pack vote money to build, or improve a stadium that he can't even afford the price of admission to?
If I'm not mistaken.. Isnt the sin tax still in place?
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I said rational plan.
That's sort of my point. MHO there's no way the City of Cleveland or Cuyahoga County are going to fork out $200 million, just to put a Dome over the stadium. You'd have to get state money involved- even less likely- Ohio isn't Nevada. Haslam can't pull the extortion trick until 2024 either. Eventually- the affected communities- i.e. the working stiffs- are going to say a billion or two for a new NFL pleasure palace is too damn rich for our blood. San Diego and Oakland already did. What is it with these guys, you have a 20 year old stadium and it's already obsolete? & anyhow looks like Jimmy is\was just doing a feasibility study that will amount to nothing. The majority of us well knew when they built CBS, now known as First Energy- it was never designed to be retrofitted with a dome.
If you've been following this thread, going to an NFL game for a family of four has already been priced out of the reach of a lot of fans. So follow along- why would Joe Six Pack vote money to build, or improve a stadium that he can't even afford the price of admission to?
If I'm not mistaken.. Isnt the sin tax still in place?
If I'm not mistaken.. Isnt the sin tax still in place?
Yes, it is. Did a little research for you. It's a relative drop in the bucket. Generates $15 million a year. Not only that, it gets split three ways between the Browns, Indians, and Cavs. Pays for ongoing maintenance (like a new roof for the Q) and not much more.
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I'm probably going to shut this thread down soon- it's going nowhere, those that want living room comfort going to a game when it's in the 20s can travel to warmer climes and domed stadiums to watch the Browns when the weather gets cold. As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran and the Cardinals in Arizona. Subject to change- the Broncos (again) and the Titans.
And to those wishin' and a hopein' for a dome in Cleveland- please come up with a rational plan on how to come up with the $200 million to make it happen. I'll be waiting for suggestions....
I'm probably going to shut this thread down soon- it's going nowhere, those that want living room comfort going to a game when it's in the 20s can travel to warmer climes and domed stadiums to watch the Browns when the weather gets cold. As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran and the Cardinals in Arizona. Subject to change- the Broncos (again) and the Titans.
Fairly stated, but....for that, we have to rely on the schedule makers.
As you know, my main hobby really is travel....and like I did just a couple of weeks ago, where I combined my attendance at the Houston game with a week long excursion into parts of east Texas, Mississippi and Louisiana, I would think about doing the same again next year, if possible. I already have trips planned for next September and October to Lake Ozark, Missouri (we won't be playing the Chiefs) and Jackson Hole Wyo. respectively. But....if the schedule makers were to put the Browns into either Arizona or SF in like that first week of December, it is road game trip that I would highly consider to combine with other travel. And though as you know, I have complained about the stadium experience, I would put up with it for 3.5 hours in order to do the thing.
Are you in to go to one of those spots? (I would not be in to going to Denver in Dec....or to the Tits game)
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As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran.
Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play. Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate. Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.
Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play. Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate. Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.
Mark Twain said that the coldest winter he ever spent was a summer in San Francisco......nevertheless....it actually has seemed that that area is less blustery in like December. I have only ever been there in spring. As noted, I would combine it with a trip to some other parts of CAL. Take a drive down the Big Sur coast. Over to Pinnacles NP. Into the central Valley over by Bakersfield for another NP.
What would such a trip there be like in December?
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Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play. Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate. Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.
Mark Twain said that the coldest winter he ever spent was a summer in San Francisco......nevertheless....it actually has seemed that that area is less blustery in like December. I have only ever been there in spring. As noted, I would combine it with a trip to some other parts of CAL. Take a drive down the Big Sur coast. Over to Pinnacles NP. Into the central Valley over by Bakersfield for another NP.
What would such a trip there be like in December?
What would such a trip there be like in December?
Probably in the 50s and rainy.
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