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  • I'm probably going to shut this thread down soon- it's going nowhere, those that want living room comfort going to a game when it's in the 20s can travel to warmer climes and domed stadiums to watch the Browns when the weather gets cold. As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran and the Cardinals in Arizona. Subject to change- the Broncos (again) and the Titans. 

    And to those wishin' and a hopein' for a dome in Cleveland- please come up with a rational plan on how to come up with the $200 million to make it happen. I'll be waiting for suggestions....   

    @hoorta said:

     As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran.

    Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play.  Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate.   Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.

  • @hoorta said:

     As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran.

    Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play.  Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate.   Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.

    @mark-o said:

    Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play.  Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate.   Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.

    LOL, what Mark Twain said- "the coldest winter I ever had was a summer in San Francisco."  Well aware of that Mark when the fog rolls in off the ocean- 50 degrees is a pretty miserable cold and damp in those conditions...   

  • @mark-o said:

    Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play.  Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate.   Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.

    LOL, what Mark Twain said- "the coldest winter I ever had was a summer in San Francisco."  Well aware of that Mark when the fog rolls in off the ocean- 50 degrees is a pretty miserable cold and damp in those conditions...   

    @hoorta said:

    LOL, what Mark Twain said- "the coldest winter I ever had was a summer in San Francisco."  Well aware of that Mark when the fog rolls in off the ocean- 50 degrees is a pretty miserable cold and damp in those conditions...   

    Coldest I've ever been at a sporting event.   The January 1981 Browns/Raiders playoff game, Browns/Chargers in early December 2009 (WTF was I thinking), and Padres/Giants at Candlestink in September 1998, it was 80 degrees during the day that day and it was in the 40's during the game and felt colder.  Ordered coffee, not to drink...just to hold onto it so it would keep my hands warm for awhile.

  • I'm probably going to shut this thread down soon- it's going nowhere, those that want living room comfort going to a game when it's in the 20s can travel to warmer climes and domed stadiums to watch the Browns when the weather gets cold. As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran and the Cardinals in Arizona. Subject to change- the Broncos (again) and the Titans. 

    And to those wishin' and a hopein' for a dome in Cleveland- please come up with a rational plan on how to come up with the $200 million to make it happen. I'll be waiting for suggestions....   

    @hoorta said:

    And to those wishin' and a hopein' for a dome in Cleveland- please come up with a rational plan on how to come up with the $200 million to make it happen. I'll be waiting for suggestions....   

    How do the insanely rich folks who own professional sports teams usually get their palaces built that their teams play in hoorta?

    They figure out a way to get us working stiffs to pay for it. 

  • @hoorta said:

    And to those wishin' and a hopein' for a dome in Cleveland- please come up with a rational plan on how to come up with the $200 million to make it happen. I'll be waiting for suggestions....   

    How do the insanely rich folks who own professional sports teams usually get their palaces built that their teams play in hoorta?

    They figure out a way to get us working stiffs to pay for it. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    How do the insanely rich folks who own professional sports teams usually get their palaces built that their teams play in hoorta?

    They figure out a way to get us working stiffs to pay for it. 

    I said rational plan. 

    That's sort of my point. MHO there's no way the City of Cleveland or Cuyahoga County are going to fork out $200 million, just to put a Dome over the stadium. You'd have to get state money involved- even less likely- Ohio isn't Nevada.  Haslam can't pull the extortion trick until 2024 either. Eventually- the affected communities- i.e. the working stiffs- are going to say a billion or two for a new NFL pleasure palace is too damn rich for our blood. San Diego and Oakland already did. What is it with these guys, you have a 20 year old stadium and it's already obsolete? & anyhow looks like Jimmy is\was just doing a feasibility study that will amount to nothing. The majority of us well knew when they built CBS, now known as First Energy- it was never designed to be retrofitted with a dome. 

    If you've been following this thread, going to an NFL game for a family of four has already been priced out of the reach of a lot of fans. So follow along- why would Joe Six Pack vote money to build, or improve a stadium that he can't even afford the price of admission to? 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    How do the insanely rich folks who own professional sports teams usually get their palaces built that their teams play in hoorta?

    They figure out a way to get us working stiffs to pay for it. 

    I said rational plan. 

    That's sort of my point. MHO there's no way the City of Cleveland or Cuyahoga County are going to fork out $200 million, just to put a Dome over the stadium. You'd have to get state money involved- even less likely- Ohio isn't Nevada.  Haslam can't pull the extortion trick until 2024 either. Eventually- the affected communities- i.e. the working stiffs- are going to say a billion or two for a new NFL pleasure palace is too damn rich for our blood. San Diego and Oakland already did. What is it with these guys, you have a 20 year old stadium and it's already obsolete? & anyhow looks like Jimmy is\was just doing a feasibility study that will amount to nothing. The majority of us well knew when they built CBS, now known as First Energy- it was never designed to be retrofitted with a dome. 

    If you've been following this thread, going to an NFL game for a family of four has already been priced out of the reach of a lot of fans. So follow along- why would Joe Six Pack vote money to build, or improve a stadium that he can't even afford the price of admission to? 

    @hoorta said:

    I said rational plan. 

    That's sort of my point. MHO there's no way the City of Cleveland or Cuyahoga County are going to fork out $200 million, just to put a Dome over the stadium. You'd have to get state money involved- even less likely- Ohio isn't Nevada.  Haslam can't pull the extortion trick until 2024 either. Eventually- the affected communities- i.e. the working stiffs- are going to say a billion or two for a new NFL pleasure palace is too damn rich for our blood. San Diego and Oakland already did. What is it with these guys, you have a 20 year old stadium and it's already obsolete? & anyhow looks like Jimmy is\was just doing a feasibility study that will amount to nothing. The majority of us well knew when they built CBS, now known as First Energy- it was never designed to be retrofitted with a dome. 

    If you've been following this thread, going to an NFL game for a family of four has already been priced out of the reach of a lot of fans. So follow along- why would Joe Six Pack vote money to build, or improve a stadium that he can't even afford the price of admission to? 

    If I'm not mistaken.. Isnt the sin tax still in place?

  • Baker came out and said he wants more fans in the stands. I don’t blame him for than he’s kept his ends of the bargain, but dam it’s cold this time of year. We have all been there this time of year and it’s cold but when the wind is blowing which is always fuk me I’m out sorry baker. So jimmy how bout you bust out some cash and put a roof on the stadium and enclose the sides. Hell he wouldn’t have to heat the dam place. But if this is a glimps of the future it’s time to sweeten the put and treat the fans just a little more 

    @babernakle said:

    Baker came out and said he wants more fans in the stands. I don’t blame him for than he’s kept his ends of the bargain, but dam it’s cold this time of year. We have all been there this time of year and it’s cold but when the wind is blowing which is always fuk me I’m out sorry baker. So jimmy how bout you bust out some cash and put a roof on the stadium and enclose the sides. Hell he wouldn’t have to heat the dam place. But if this is a glimps of the future it’s time to sweeten the put and treat the fans just a little more 

    Hey Babernuts. and I say that with love. I am now worried about you. If you say blasphemous shit like this in public, you would get hung outside naked by your peepee and spray painted orange and Brown. As you can see from the reaction, to a real Browns fan the thought of a roof and an enclosed stadium is as appealing as offering free testicle removal using a football tee. Here are some statistics for you....

    • Men who attend home games in a domed stadium are 137.288 % likely to become homosexual, if they already aren't. 
    • Women who attend home games in a domed stadium are whores, and 204.3 % more likely to have adultery in the bathrooms.
    • Browns fans who talk about wanting a dome stadium are 3,751% more likely to be deported and/or have big things shoved up their ass

    Don't be that guy. Go get yourself some battery headed underwear, put your granrled off, nubby divk into a thimble, cover it with a sock and go watch you some browns out in the elements. It'll make a man out of you.

    ?  Nuthin but love, dude.

  • @hoorta said:

    I said rational plan. 

    That's sort of my point. MHO there's no way the City of Cleveland or Cuyahoga County are going to fork out $200 million, just to put a Dome over the stadium. You'd have to get state money involved- even less likely- Ohio isn't Nevada.  Haslam can't pull the extortion trick until 2024 either. Eventually- the affected communities- i.e. the working stiffs- are going to say a billion or two for a new NFL pleasure palace is too damn rich for our blood. San Diego and Oakland already did. What is it with these guys, you have a 20 year old stadium and it's already obsolete? & anyhow looks like Jimmy is\was just doing a feasibility study that will amount to nothing. The majority of us well knew when they built CBS, now known as First Energy- it was never designed to be retrofitted with a dome. 

    If you've been following this thread, going to an NFL game for a family of four has already been priced out of the reach of a lot of fans. So follow along- why would Joe Six Pack vote money to build, or improve a stadium that he can't even afford the price of admission to? 

    If I'm not mistaken.. Isnt the sin tax still in place?

    @nickers said:

    If I'm not mistaken.. Isnt the sin tax still in place?

    Those 'temporary' sin taxes are still going since Jacobs (Progressive Field) was built.  They will always find a reason to extend or increase them.

  • @hoorta said:

    I said rational plan. 

    That's sort of my point. MHO there's no way the City of Cleveland or Cuyahoga County are going to fork out $200 million, just to put a Dome over the stadium. You'd have to get state money involved- even less likely- Ohio isn't Nevada.  Haslam can't pull the extortion trick until 2024 either. Eventually- the affected communities- i.e. the working stiffs- are going to say a billion or two for a new NFL pleasure palace is too damn rich for our blood. San Diego and Oakland already did. What is it with these guys, you have a 20 year old stadium and it's already obsolete? & anyhow looks like Jimmy is\was just doing a feasibility study that will amount to nothing. The majority of us well knew when they built CBS, now known as First Energy- it was never designed to be retrofitted with a dome. 

    If you've been following this thread, going to an NFL game for a family of four has already been priced out of the reach of a lot of fans. So follow along- why would Joe Six Pack vote money to build, or improve a stadium that he can't even afford the price of admission to? 

    If I'm not mistaken.. Isnt the sin tax still in place?

    @nickers said:

    If I'm not mistaken.. Isnt the sin tax still in place?

    Yes, it is. Did a little research for you. It's a relative drop in the bucket. Generates $15 million a year. Not only that, it gets split three ways between the Browns, Indians, and Cavs. Pays for ongoing maintenance (like a new roof for the Q) and not much more.

  • I'm probably going to shut this thread down soon- it's going nowhere, those that want living room comfort going to a game when it's in the 20s can travel to warmer climes and domed stadiums to watch the Browns when the weather gets cold. As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran and the Cardinals in Arizona. Subject to change- the Broncos (again) and the Titans. 

    And to those wishin' and a hopein' for a dome in Cleveland- please come up with a rational plan on how to come up with the $200 million to make it happen. I'll be waiting for suggestions....   

    @hoorta said:

    I'm probably going to shut this thread down soon- it's going nowhere, those that want living room comfort going to a game when it's in the 20s can travel to warmer climes and domed stadiums to watch the Browns when the weather gets cold. As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran and the Cardinals in Arizona. Subject to change- the Broncos (again) and the Titans. 

    Fairly stated,   but....for that, we have to rely on the schedule makers.  

    As you know, my main hobby really is travel....and like I did just a couple of weeks ago, where I combined my attendance at the Houston game with a week long excursion into parts of east Texas, Mississippi and Louisiana, I would think about doing the same again next year, if possible.  I already have trips planned for next September and October to Lake Ozark, Missouri  (we won't be playing the Chiefs) and Jackson Hole Wyo. respectively.   But....if the schedule makers were to put the Browns into either Arizona or SF in like that first week of December, it is road game trip that I would highly consider to combine with other travel. And though as you know, I have complained about the stadium experience, I would put up with it for 3.5 hours in order to do the thing.

    Are you in to go to one of those spots?  (I would not be in to going to Denver in Dec....or to the Tits game)

  • @hoorta said:

     As of now the 2019 warm away games would be the 49ers in San Fran.

    Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play.  Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate.   Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.

    @mark-o said:

    Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play.  Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate.   Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.

    Mark Twain said that the coldest winter he ever spent was a summer in San Francisco......nevertheless....it actually has seemed that  that area is less blustery in like December.  I have only ever been there in spring.  As noted, I would combine it with a trip to some other parts of CAL.   Take a drive down the Big Sur coast. Over to Pinnacles NP. Into the central Valley over by Bakersfield for another NP. 

    What would such a trip there be like in December?

  • @mark-o said:

    Ummm...its not exactly warm in Santa Clara where the 49ers play.  Not as bad as it used to be at old Candlestink Park but its not exactly a warm climate.   Though it might be a game for me to make the trip up the coast for....pretty cheap flights on Southwest to the bay area if you plan ahead.

    Mark Twain said that the coldest winter he ever spent was a summer in San Francisco......nevertheless....it actually has seemed that  that area is less blustery in like December.  I have only ever been there in spring.  As noted, I would combine it with a trip to some other parts of CAL.   Take a drive down the Big Sur coast. Over to Pinnacles NP. Into the central Valley over by Bakersfield for another NP. 

    What would such a trip there be like in December?

    @the-gipper said:

    What would such a trip there be like in December?

    Probably in the 50s and rainy.  

  • lol at all the old "snowflakes" now complaining about Cleveland weather. In my day, browns fans went to games in nov/dec in a loincloth with a sack full of D batteries ready for that Elway Twat to come near enough to em……..

  • @the-gipper said:

    What would such a trip there be like in December?

    Probably in the 50s and rainy.  

    @mark-o said:

    Probably in the 50s and rainy.  

    50s would be OK, but, I would have to hope to time it so that it was a clear day when traveling down the Big Sur coast.   Ever done that?

  • @mark-o said:

    Probably in the 50s and rainy.  

    50s would be OK, but, I would have to hope to time it so that it was a clear day when traveling down the Big Sur coast.   Ever done that?

    @the-gipper said:

    I would have to hope to time it so that it was a clear day when traveling down the Big Sur coast.   Ever done that?

    I have not.    I've heard good things though.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    How do the insanely rich folks who own professional sports teams usually get their palaces built that their teams play in hoorta?

    They figure out a way to get us working stiffs to pay for it. 

    I said rational plan. 

    That's sort of my point. MHO there's no way the City of Cleveland or Cuyahoga County are going to fork out $200 million, just to put a Dome over the stadium. You'd have to get state money involved- even less likely- Ohio isn't Nevada.  Haslam can't pull the extortion trick until 2024 either. Eventually- the affected communities- i.e. the working stiffs- are going to say a billion or two for a new NFL pleasure palace is too damn rich for our blood. San Diego and Oakland already did. What is it with these guys, you have a 20 year old stadium and it's already obsolete? & anyhow looks like Jimmy is\was just doing a feasibility study that will amount to nothing. The majority of us well knew when they built CBS, now known as First Energy- it was never designed to be retrofitted with a dome. 

    If you've been following this thread, going to an NFL game for a family of four has already been priced out of the reach of a lot of fans. So follow along- why would Joe Six Pack vote money to build, or improve a stadium that he can't even afford the price of admission to? 

    @hoorta said:

    If you've been following this thread, going to an NFL game for a family of four has already been priced out of the reach of a lot of fans. So follow along- why would Joe Six Pack vote money to build, or improve a stadium that he can't even afford the price of admission to? 

    You're right hoorta, Joe Six Pack would never vote against his own best interests. 

    Even if it was sold by a conman from New York City with a stupid mantra printed on cheap, shitty red hats. 

  • @hoorta said:

    If you've been following this thread, going to an NFL game for a family of four has already been priced out of the reach of a lot of fans. So follow along- why would Joe Six Pack vote money to build, or improve a stadium that he can't even afford the price of admission to? 

    You're right hoorta, Joe Six Pack would never vote against his own best interests. 

    Even if it was sold by a conman from New York City with a stupid mantra printed on cheap, shitty red hats. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    You're right hoorta, Joe Six Pack would never vote against his own best interests. 

    Even if it was sold by a conman from New York City with a stupid mantra printed on cheap, shitty red hats. 

    This guy always has to bring politics into every fucking thing.  Fucking asshole.

  • lol at all the old "snowflakes" now complaining about Cleveland weather. In my day, browns fans went to games in nov/dec in a loincloth with a sack full of D batteries ready for that Elway Twat to come near enough to em……..

    @clevfan4life said:

    lol at all the old "snowflakes" now complaining about Cleveland weather. In my day, browns fans went to games in nov/dec in a loincloth with a sack full of D batteries ready for that Elway Twat to come near enough to em……..

    Yeah, honestly the idea of being up there for a winter game doesn't phase me... I'd be more concerned with making the 40+ mile drive in bad weather - which wouldn't change regardless if there was an open-air stadium or a domed one at the end of my drive. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    You're right hoorta, Joe Six Pack would never vote against his own best interests. 

    Even if it was sold by a conman from New York City with a stupid mantra printed on cheap, shitty red hats. 

    This guy always has to bring politics into every fucking thing.  Fucking asshole.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    This guy always has to bring politics into every fucking thing.  Fucking asshole.

    Settle down, snowflake. 

  • @babernakle said:

    Baker came out and said he wants more fans in the stands. I don’t blame him for than he’s kept his ends of the bargain, but dam it’s cold this time of year. We have all been there this time of year and it’s cold but when the wind is blowing which is always fuk me I’m out sorry baker. So jimmy how bout you bust out some cash and put a roof on the stadium and enclose the sides. Hell he wouldn’t have to heat the dam place. But if this is a glimps of the future it’s time to sweeten the put and treat the fans just a little more 

    Hey Babernuts. and I say that with love. I am now worried about you. If you say blasphemous shit like this in public, you would get hung outside naked by your peepee and spray painted orange and Brown. As you can see from the reaction, to a real Browns fan the thought of a roof and an enclosed stadium is as appealing as offering free testicle removal using a football tee. Here are some statistics for you....

    • Men who attend home games in a domed stadium are 137.288 % likely to become homosexual, if they already aren't. 
    • Women who attend home games in a domed stadium are whores, and 204.3 % more likely to have adultery in the bathrooms.
    • Browns fans who talk about wanting a dome stadium are 3,751% more likely to be deported and/or have big things shoved up their ass

    Don't be that guy. Go get yourself some battery headed underwear, put your granrled off, nubby divk into a thimble, cover it with a sock and go watch you some browns out in the elements. It'll make a man out of you.

    ?  Nuthin but love, dude.

    @ghoolie said:

    Hey Babernuts. and I say that with love. I am now worried about you. If you say blasphemous shit like this in public, you would get hung outside naked by your peepee and spray painted orange and Brown. As you can see from the reaction, to a real Browns fan the thought of a roof and an enclosed stadium is as appealing as offering free testicle removal using a football tee. Here are some statistics for you....

    • Men who attend home games in a domed stadium are 137.288 % likely to become homosexual, if they already aren't. 
    • Women who attend home games in a domed stadium are whores, and 204.3 % more likely to have adultery in the bathrooms.
    • Browns fans who talk about wanting a dome stadium are 3,751% more likely to be deported and/or have big things shoved up their ass

    Don't be that guy. Go get yourself some battery headed underwear, put your granrled off, nubby divk into a thimble, cover it with a sock and go watch you some browns out in the elements. It'll make a man out of you.

    ?  Nuthin but love, dude.

    Not just the attendance on cold days would go up but why would you not want to take all  variables out of the game shitty footing wet football wind etc.  I work in the cold all year it’s nice to be some what warm on the weekends and drink a cold beer.  Just sayin.