IMO Our def scheme sucks...
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Look Cleve fan can bitch about our defense, but let's get real what the Ravens were doing in the run game of late. In the last seven games they topped 200 yards rushing in five of them, and the LOW was 159. It's wasn't just the Browns they were tearing up running the ball- it was everybody.
Only an elite defense stacked with talent and experience is stopping that run game. It’s basixally unstoppable when Lamar is accurate as a passer, too
Only an elite defense stacked with talent and experience is stopping that run game. It’s basixally unstoppable when Lamar is accurate as a passer, too
What makes that run game go is the gaps the interior lineman open up. Ofc lamar is still gonna get yds beating everyone to the edge, but if u plug those interior holes u "control" that run game...not completely stop it. Dont listen to these plethora of goofballs thst populate this board, go back and watch the game and see how easily those lineman got to our 2nd level.
Its not all on our players either, frankly i think the defensive play calling for 3.5 quarters was atrocious.
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Only an elite defense stacked with talent and experience is stopping that run game. It’s basixally unstoppable when Lamar is accurate as a passer, too
What makes that run game go is the gaps the interior lineman open up. Ofc lamar is still gonna get yds beating everyone to the edge, but if u plug those interior holes u "control" that run game...not completely stop it. Dont listen to these plethora of goofballs thst populate this board, go back and watch the game and see how easily those lineman got to our 2nd level.
Its not all on our players either, frankly i think the defensive play calling for 3.5 quarters was atrocious.
What makes that run game go is the gaps the interior lineman open up. Ofc lamar is still gonna get yds beating everyone to the edge, but if u plug those interior holes u "control" that run game...not completely stop it. Dont listen to these plethora of goofballs thst populate this board, go back and watch the game and see how easily those lineman got to our 2nd level.
Its not all on our players either, frankly i think the defensive play calling for 3.5 quarters was atrocious.
3,5 is right atleast that was when i noticed are D line shifting from side to side to get them a punting situation
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Only an elite defense stacked with talent and experience is stopping that run game. It’s basixally unstoppable when Lamar is accurate as a passer, too
What makes that run game go is the gaps the interior lineman open up. Ofc lamar is still gonna get yds beating everyone to the edge, but if u plug those interior holes u "control" that run game...not completely stop it. Dont listen to these plethora of goofballs thst populate this board, go back and watch the game and see how easily those lineman got to our 2nd level.
Its not all on our players either, frankly i think the defensive play calling for 3.5 quarters was atrocious.
What makes that run game go is the gaps the interior lineman open up. Ofc lamar is still gonna get yds beating everyone to the edge, but if u plug those interior holes u "control" that run game...not completely stop it. Dont listen to these plethora of goofballs thst populate this board, go back and watch the game and see how easily those lineman got to our 2nd level.
Its not all on our players either, frankly i think the defensive play calling for 3.5 quarters was atrocious.
Generally when you leave an unblocked defender you'll see a lineman immediately at the second level.
No? Not really something you considered?
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What makes that run game go is the gaps the interior lineman open up. Ofc lamar is still gonna get yds beating everyone to the edge, but if u plug those interior holes u "control" that run game...not completely stop it. Dont listen to these plethora of goofballs thst populate this board, go back and watch the game and see how easily those lineman got to our 2nd level.
Its not all on our players either, frankly i think the defensive play calling for 3.5 quarters was atrocious.
3,5 is right atleast that was when i noticed are D line shifting from side to side to get them a punting situation
3,5 is right atleast that was when i noticed are D line shifting from side to side to get them a punting situation
So at least one person noticed what happened when our front 4 all put their hands down and lined up helmet to helmet like the great skywizard intended. Not like romo didnt "immediately" point the shift or anything....
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What makes that run game go is the gaps the interior lineman open up. Ofc lamar is still gonna get yds beating everyone to the edge, but if u plug those interior holes u "control" that run game...not completely stop it. Dont listen to these plethora of goofballs thst populate this board, go back and watch the game and see how easily those lineman got to our 2nd level.
Its not all on our players either, frankly i think the defensive play calling for 3.5 quarters was atrocious.
Generally when you leave an unblocked defender you'll see a lineman immediately at the second level.
No? Not really something you considered?
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3,5 is right atleast that was when i noticed are D line shifting from side to side to get them a punting situation
So at least one person noticed what happened when our front 4 all put their hands down and lined up helmet to helmet like the great skywizard intended. Not like romo didnt "immediately" point the shift or anything....
So at least one person noticed what happened when our front 4 all put their hands down and lined up helmet to helmet like the great skywizard intended. Not like romo didnt "immediately" point the shift or anything....
i was still so damn hungover and me yelling at the t,v didnt help much romo was there ? I thought he retired
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I think by next year they’ll be able to stop that run game better than what we saw yesterday..
Matt Millers first mock has us taking a corner..Deandre Baker from Georgia..
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So at least one person noticed what happened when our front 4 all put their hands down and lined up helmet to helmet like the great skywizard intended. Not like romo didnt "immediately" point the shift or anything....
i was still so damn hungover and me yelling at the t,v didnt help much romo was there ? I thought he retired
i was still so damn hungover and me yelling at the t,v didnt help much romo was there ? I thought he retired
Romo was one of the announcers dude.....wow u really were hungover lmfao. Yeah the guy that sounded lije he kbew what the fuk was going on down ob that field....that was romo
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Romo was one of the announcers dude.....wow u really were hungover lmfao. Yeah the guy that sounded lije he kbew what the fuk was going on down ob that field....that was romo
ah fuck romo yup saturday night into sunday morning was for us are friends coming over that had family plans before I out did my self ofcourse anyway it still makes you wonder why the ajustment took so long
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I think by next year they’ll be able to stop that run game better than what we saw yesterday..
Matt Millers first mock has us taking a corner..Deandre Baker from Georgia..
I think by next year they’ll be able to stop that run game better than what we saw yesterday..
Matt Millers first mock has us taking a corner..Deandre Baker from Georgia..
Jobi needs a big brother in there with him. U see they have raekwon davis still on the board when we pick? So mot sure about taking another corner in the 1dt again. That DL needs help. I know i wanted tp trade down but if davis is there, fuck that. I know he's a DT/DE but at 6'7 well over 300lbs and reportedly would "right now" be among the strongest dudes in the NFL.....u take that. He can play all over the line
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Romo was one of the announcers dude.....wow u really were hungover lmfao. Yeah the guy that sounded lije he kbew what the fuk was going on down ob that field....that was romo
I just really do not think that Romo is very good. I know a lot of people disagree....but so what. I also think that Witten is pretty uninspiring. Joe Thomas would have been 100 times better. I don't know why these networks thought that washed up Cowboy players made good announcers.
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Romo was one of the announcers dude.....wow u really were hungover lmfao. Yeah the guy that sounded lije he kbew what the fuk was going on down ob that field....that was romo
ah fuck romo yup saturday night into sunday morning was for us are friends coming over that had family plans before I out did my self ofcourse anyway it still makes you wonder why the ajustment took so long
ah fuck romo yup saturday night into sunday morning was for us are friends coming over that had family plans before I out did my self ofcourse anyway it still makes you wonder why the ajustment took so long
I think they expected baker to score more points so they were in containment mode. Maybe williams didnt want to get his DL dinged up on the last meaningless game if the season.
I know ive brought it up before, but watching our 270lb edge rushing freak stand up a drive block by blt's LT and LG......i mean srsly? Id give myles the side of a building showing him holding off those two.......fuck that egyptian statue lookin mother fucker where lebron used to be
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Romo was one of the announcers dude.....wow u really were hungover lmfao. Yeah the guy that sounded lije he kbew what the fuk was going on down ob that field....that was romo
I just really do not think that Romo is very good. I know a lot of people disagree....but so what. I also think that Witten is pretty uninspiring. Joe Thomas would have been 100 times better. I don't know why these networks thought that washed up Cowboy players made good announcers.
I just really do not think that Romo is very good. I know a lot of people disagree....but so what. I also think that Witten is pretty uninspiring. Joe Thomas would have been 100 times better. I don't know why these networks thought that washed up Cowboy players made good announcers.
Oh i agree on whitten, he's terrible. But i do like tony.
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I think by next year they’ll be able to stop that run game better than what we saw yesterday..
Matt Millers first mock has us taking a corner..Deandre Baker from Georgia..
Jobi needs a big brother in there with him. U see they have raekwon davis still on the board when we pick? So mot sure about taking another corner in the 1dt again. That DL needs help. I know i wanted tp trade down but if davis is there, fuck that. I know he's a DT/DE but at 6'7 well over 300lbs and reportedly would "right now" be among the strongest dudes in the NFL.....u take that. He can play all over the line
Jobi needs a big brother in there with him. U see they have raekwon davis still on the board when we pick? So mot sure about taking another corner in the 1dt again. That DL needs help.
Yea they have him going at 19 to Tennessee
“That seems to point to a best-player-available approach, which is why defensive lineman Raekwon Davis fits the bill in Round 1.
Davis, a 6'7" and 306-pound defensive end in the Alabama base 3-4 defense, fits both a three- and four-man front thanks to his size and his athleticism. Davis is also a finished product coming out of the Alabama defense, and that's something both Vrabel and Robinson seemed to value in their first draft together.
With no wide receiver worth drafting here and the team trying to build up a fierce defense, Davis is a great addition. “ https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2812782-2019-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-post-regular-season-predictions?share=other#slide19
Interesting: Dwayne Haskins as number 1 QB to Giants at 6...
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I still think they should try to trade Collins - preferably by fleecing Mayock - to get more round 1/2 help for the D. But it should be clear our need is front7 and perhaps a 2nd-round CB as well.
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Ive been questioning our scheme, or lack thereof...for weeks now. And Blt exploited the fuk out of personnel alignments ive been skeptical about now for awhile. Now i know some guys gere were like relax, its a hybrid defense williams is being crafty etc,etc.
Well today, Blt lined up and put their dicks right in the front 7's ear. It took till late in the 4th quarter for Williams to essentially 2 gap the whole front 4 by lining them up heads up. Then finally some of those gaping pornstar holes were being plugged "somewhat" and our LB'ers were free to flow around the edges to cover the outside runs. Till then there were Blt OL routinely at the 2nd level swallowing up our LB'ers. And also routinely drive blocking our interior lineman 5 yds back.
Anyway, what i saw today was a defense thats been unsettled for weeks face an offense that was willing to play old school come get some football and our defensive front 4 was being gimmicky schemed almost like we were playing some top level qb we needed to keep from throwing instead of a college type running game we needed to plug all the gaps on. I couldnt count how many times myles was standing today. When we only had 2 other DL at the line. The gaping holes we left this offense we knew were gonna come like they did.....it just defies sense. I dont understand, williams is supposed to be better than this. I understand doing some weird things with ur edge freak myles who's an elite athlete, but standing up the rotational DL depth like zettel....again, its ridiculous. Guys were just getting blown off the line.
We were better last year. We had an identity on the defense. We were stout against the run but weak on the pass.....we could have worked on that.
Ive been questioning our scheme, or lack thereof...for weeks now. And Blt exploited the fuk out of personnel alignments ive been skeptical about now for awhile. Now i know some guys gere were like relax, its a hybrid defense williams is being crafty etc,etc.
Well today, Blt lined up and put their dicks right in the front 7's ear. It took till late in the 4th quarter for Williams to essentially 2 gap the whole front 4 by lining them up heads up. Then finally some of those gaping pornstar holes were being plugged "somewhat" and our LB'ers were free to flow around the edges to cover the outside runs. Till then there were Blt OL routinely at the 2nd level swallowing up our LB'ers. And also routinely drive blocking our interior lineman 5 yds back.
Anyway, what i saw today was a defense thats been unsettled for weeks face an offense that was willing to play old school come get some football and our defensive front 4 was being gimmicky schemed almost like we were playing some top level qb we needed to keep from throwing instead of a college type running game we needed to plug all the gaps on. I couldnt count how many times myles was standing today. When we only had 2 other DL at the line. The gaping holes we left this offense we knew were gonna come like they did.....it just defies sense. I dont understand, williams is supposed to be better than this. I understand doing some weird things with ur edge freak myles who's an elite athlete, but standing up the rotational DL depth like zettel....again, its ridiculous. Guys were just getting blown off the line.
We were better last year. We had an identity on the defense. We were stout against the run but weak on the pass.....we could have worked on that.
are you Retarded?
Let me clue you on in something- in today's nfl, stopping the pass is about 10x as important as stopping the run.
We need to get even better in stopping modern passing games. We have 1 good secondary player or with the potential to be good(ward) and one ok one(randall). We need to upgrade the other 2. We also need to upgrade a linebacker spot by bringing in someone in the mold of a bobby wagner(obviously not someone as great as him) who has the potential to be dominant in thepass game like him.
Adding lbers or defensive tackles(who cant rush the passer effectively like a gilbert brown type) in the nfl is about the dumbest thing you can do in 2019
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Ive been questioning our scheme, or lack thereof...for weeks now. And Blt exploited the fuk out of personnel alignments ive been skeptical about now for awhile. Now i know some guys gere were like relax, its a hybrid defense williams is being crafty etc,etc.
Well today, Blt lined up and put their dicks right in the front 7's ear. It took till late in the 4th quarter for Williams to essentially 2 gap the whole front 4 by lining them up heads up. Then finally some of those gaping pornstar holes were being plugged "somewhat" and our LB'ers were free to flow around the edges to cover the outside runs. Till then there were Blt OL routinely at the 2nd level swallowing up our LB'ers. And also routinely drive blocking our interior lineman 5 yds back.
Anyway, what i saw today was a defense thats been unsettled for weeks face an offense that was willing to play old school come get some football and our defensive front 4 was being gimmicky schemed almost like we were playing some top level qb we needed to keep from throwing instead of a college type running game we needed to plug all the gaps on. I couldnt count how many times myles was standing today. When we only had 2 other DL at the line. The gaping holes we left this offense we knew were gonna come like they did.....it just defies sense. I dont understand, williams is supposed to be better than this. I understand doing some weird things with ur edge freak myles who's an elite athlete, but standing up the rotational DL depth like zettel....again, its ridiculous. Guys were just getting blown off the line.
We were better last year. We had an identity on the defense. We were stout against the run but weak on the pass.....we could have worked on that.
are you Retarded?
Let me clue you on in something- in today's nfl, stopping the pass is about 10x as important as stopping the run.
We need to get even better in stopping modern passing games. We have 1 good secondary player or with the potential to be good(ward) and one ok one(randall). We need to upgrade the other 2. We also need to upgrade a linebacker spot by bringing in someone in the mold of a bobby wagner(obviously not someone as great as him) who has the potential to be dominant in thepass game like him.
Adding lbers or defensive tackles(who cant rush the passer effectively like a gilbert brown type) in the nfl is about the dumbest thing you can do in 2019
are you Retarded?
We have 1 good secondary player or with the potential to be good(ward) and one ok one(randall). We need to upgrade the other 2. We also need to upgrade a linebacker spot by bringing in someone in the mold of a bobby wagner(obviously not someone as great as him) who has the potential to be dominant in thepass game like him.
Adding lbers or defensive tackles(who cant rush the passer effectively like a gilbert brown type) in the nfl is about the dumbest thing you can do in 2019
You are some kind of special for not thinking Peppers has the ability to be really good.
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are you Retarded?
We have 1 good secondary player or with the potential to be good(ward) and one ok one(randall). We need to upgrade the other 2. We also need to upgrade a linebacker spot by bringing in someone in the mold of a bobby wagner(obviously not someone as great as him) who has the potential to be dominant in thepass game like him.
Adding lbers or defensive tackles(who cant rush the passer effectively like a gilbert brown type) in the nfl is about the dumbest thing you can do in 2019
You are some kind of special for not thinking Peppers has the ability to be really good.
You are some kind of special for not thinking Peppers has the ability to be really good.
you're talking about jabril peppers? He's not even a full time player....no he's not going to be 'really good'. He's not a key piece of the defense going forward(like a ward or garrett).
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Ive been questioning our scheme, or lack thereof...for weeks now. And Blt exploited the fuk out of personnel alignments ive been skeptical about now for awhile. Now i know some guys gere were like relax, its a hybrid defense williams is being crafty etc,etc.
Well today, Blt lined up and put their dicks right in the front 7's ear. It took till late in the 4th quarter for Williams to essentially 2 gap the whole front 4 by lining them up heads up. Then finally some of those gaping pornstar holes were being plugged "somewhat" and our LB'ers were free to flow around the edges to cover the outside runs. Till then there were Blt OL routinely at the 2nd level swallowing up our LB'ers. And also routinely drive blocking our interior lineman 5 yds back.
Anyway, what i saw today was a defense thats been unsettled for weeks face an offense that was willing to play old school come get some football and our defensive front 4 was being gimmicky schemed almost like we were playing some top level qb we needed to keep from throwing instead of a college type running game we needed to plug all the gaps on. I couldnt count how many times myles was standing today. When we only had 2 other DL at the line. The gaping holes we left this offense we knew were gonna come like they did.....it just defies sense. I dont understand, williams is supposed to be better than this. I understand doing some weird things with ur edge freak myles who's an elite athlete, but standing up the rotational DL depth like zettel....again, its ridiculous. Guys were just getting blown off the line.
We were better last year. We had an identity on the defense. We were stout against the run but weak on the pass.....we could have worked on that.
are you Retarded?
Let me clue you on in something- in today's nfl, stopping the pass is about 10x as important as stopping the run.
We need to get even better in stopping modern passing games. We have 1 good secondary player or with the potential to be good(ward) and one ok one(randall). We need to upgrade the other 2. We also need to upgrade a linebacker spot by bringing in someone in the mold of a bobby wagner(obviously not someone as great as him) who has the potential to be dominant in thepass game like him.
Adding lbers or defensive tackles(who cant rush the passer effectively like a gilbert brown type) in the nfl is about the dumbest thing you can do in 2019
are you Retarded?
Let me clue you on in something- in today's nfl, stopping the pass is about 10x as important as stopping the run.
We need to get even better in stopping modern passing games. We have 1 good secondary player or with the potential to be good(ward) and one ok one(randall). We need to upgrade the other 2. We also need to upgrade a linebacker spot by bringing in someone in the mold of a bobby wagner(obviously not someone as great as him) who has the potential to be dominant in thepass game like him.
Adding lbers or defensive tackles(who cant rush the passer effectively like a gilbert brown type) in the nfl is about the dumbest thing you can do in 2019
Guess what's gonna happen next year if we change nothing smart guy....teams are gonna keep Baker off the field by running right up our asses. We add a competent LDE, like Ansah, who can get to the QB....but solidy that interior by giving Jobi someone to help with the heavy lifting...we don't have to be "historically" good at stopping the run, but we'll stop it enough that teams can't use it to control us. YOU are Retarded if you think you can play competent defense in the NFL giving up the amt of yds we did Sunday. We are almost dead last in rush defense, lower echelon in pass defense, and overall only two teams worse defensively than us. One of those teams is the Chiefs. Guess what these playoff teams are gonna do to try to keep Mahommes off the field?
Again im not saying we need to be top 5 rushing defense, but pls spare me you don't have to stop the run in the NFL....here's the top 10 rush defenses in the NFL this year...
Chicago Bears 16 339 1280 3.78 5 67 80.0 New Orleans Saints 16 356 1283 3.60 12 72 80.2 Houston Texans 16 385 1323 3.44 8 76 82.7 Baltimore Ravens 16 354 1327 3.75 11 82 82.9 Dallas Cowboys 16 400 1513 3.78 12 89 94.6 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 369 1538 4.17 13 84 96.1 Philadelphia Eagles 16 332 1551 4.67 14 71 96.9 Indianapolis Colts 16 415 1626 3.92 12 87 101.6 Los Angeles Chargers 16 395 1693 4.29 11 101 105.8 Detroit Lions notice a trend here? with the exception I think of the Lions and the Steelers...aren't all these teams seasons still going? And those two just barely missed the playoffs. You're looking at the upper echelon of the NFL...and they all stop the run. Anything else you need clarified?
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Baltimore RavensBaltimore Buffalo BillsBuffalo 1 Chicago BearsChicago 16 283 17.7 1280 80.0 3515 219.7 4795 299.7 Minnesota VikingsMinnesota 16 341 21.3 1815 113.4 3140 196.2 4955 309.7 Jacksonville JaguarsJacksonville 16 316 19.8 1870 116.9 3113 194.6 4983 311.4 Pittsburgh SteelersPittsburgh 16 360 22.5 1538 96.1 3697 231.1 5235 327.2 Dallas CowboysDallas 16 324 20.2 1513 94.6 3755 234.7 5268 329.2 Tennessee TitansTennessee 16 303 18.9 1863 116.4 3471 216.9 5334 333.4 Los Angeles ChargersLA Chargers 16 329 20.6 1693 105.8 3646 227.9 5339 333.7 Detroit LionsDetroit 16 360 22.5 1761 110.1 3599 224.9 5360 335.0 Indianapolis ColtsIndianapolis 16 344 21.5 1626 101.6 3805 237.8 5431 339.4 Houston TexansHouston 16 316 19.8 1323 82.7 4167 260.4 5490 343.1 San Francisco 49ersSan Francisco 16 435 27.2 1814 113.4 3732 233.2 5546 346.6 New Orleans SaintsNew Orleans 16 353 22.1 1283 80.2 4302 268.9 5585 349.1 Carolina PanthersCarolina 16 382 23.9 1804 112.8 3847 240.4 5651 353.2 Seattle SeahawksSeattle 16 347 21.7 1811 113.2 3842 240.1 5653 353.3 Washington RedskinsWashington 16 359 22.4 1860 116.2 3794 237.1 5654 353.4 Green Bay PackersGreen Bay 16 400 25.0 1918 119.9 3752 234.5 5670 354.4 Los Angeles RamsLA Rams 16 384 24.0 1957 122.3 3780 236.2 5737 358.6 Arizona CardinalsArizona 16 425 26.6 2479 154.9 3262 203.9 5741 358.8 New England PatriotsNew England 16 325 20.3 1803 112.7 3943 246.4 5746 359.1 Denver BroncosDenver 16 349 21.8 1913 119.6 3929 245.6 5842 365.1 Philadelphia EaglesPhiladelphia 16 348 21.8 1551 96.9 4308 269.2 5859 366.2 New York GiantsNY Giants 16 412 25.8 1898 118.6 4044 252.8 5942 371.4 New York JetsNY Jets 16 441 27.6 2021 126.3 4065 254.1 6086 380.4 Oakland RaidersOakland 16 467 29.2 2249 140.6 3853 240.8 6102 381.4 Tampa Bay BuccaneersTampa Bay 16 464 29.0 1983 123.9 4151 259.4 6134 383.4 Atlanta FalconsAtlanta Miami DolphinsMiami 1 Cleveland BrownsCleveland 1 Kansas City ChiefsKansas City bad copy and paste job but there you go, and this is why I think Williams might be gone. Our defense has regressed and without Baker this year...I would have been playing ice shuffleboard on sundays months ago. No way I would have watched that shitfest. And without Baker keeping the defense fresh, we would have had an entire season of 3 and outs...we'd have multiple players on IR by now. Despite how this season has gone, defensivlely it's not been good. They made plays in key spurts here and there, and that I think is on the talent....but I don't think they were helped by the scheme. Too much cute shit, too many weird looks..players looking not entirely certain wtf they're doing.
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