Top Offseason Need - Poll
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Not surprised at Interior DL being #1, but surprised at:
- how close LB finished, and
- how low CB finished.
I've been beating the 3-down LB drum for years, but voted CB after seeing what Ward brought and feeling like he might not be available enough going forward. Plus while I've always believed Wilson (remember him?) had a chance to be very, very good two years on the shelf has reduced his odds of impacting the game.
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A bad ass lb would go along way for the run defense
also they need a kicker
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Let's go Linebacker!
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LB'er is the last thing on that front 7 that needs anything right now. The DL needs help first, than we have to see what's up with Ward. I'm happy with Kirk, Collins, Schobert, Avery and Vallejo. Infact I think Vallejo might push one of those guys hard next year for the starting job. If Collins leaves than im open to signing or drafting someone .
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LB'er is the last thing on that front 7 that needs anything right now. The DL needs help first, than we have to see what's up with Ward. I'm happy with Kirk, Collins, Schobert, Avery and Vallejo. Infact I think Vallejo might push one of those guys hard next year for the starting job. If Collins leaves than im open to signing or drafting someone .
LB'er is the last thing on that front 7 that needs anything right now. The DL needs help first, than we have to see what's up with Ward. I'm happy with Kirk, Collins, Schobert, Avery and Vallejo. Infact I think Vallejo might push one of those guys hard next year for the starting job. If Collins leaves than im open to signing or drafting someone .
Vallejo is just a guy.
Part of us moving into the "good" category of teams means we need to not put average players on mantles
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
LB'er is the last thing on that front 7 that needs anything right now. The DL needs help first, than we have to see what's up with Ward. I'm happy with Kirk, Collins, Schobert, Avery and Vallejo. Infact I think Vallejo might push one of those guys hard next year for the starting job. If Collins leaves than im open to signing or drafting someone .
Vallejo is just a guy.
Part of us moving into the "good" category of teams means we need to not put average players on mantles
Vallejo is just a guy.
Part of us moving into the "good" category of teams means we need to not put average players on mantles
Maybe, i cant know for sure....but i saw flashes from him that were elite level read and react. And he seemed to shed OL better than schobert. But thats eye test based on the TV angle....cant always see how he covers downfield. Speed and strength at the LOS seemed to be superior to our LB'ers including collins.
As for drafting a LB'er, im assuming theres a player u have in mind.....and im assuming i can guess where he plays...?
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LB'er is the last thing on that front 7 that needs anything right now. The DL needs help first, than we have to see what's up with Ward. I'm happy with Kirk, Collins, Schobert, Avery and Vallejo. Infact I think Vallejo might push one of those guys hard next year for the starting job. If Collins leaves than im open to signing or drafting someone .
Vallejo is just a guy.
Part of us moving into the "good" category of teams means we need to not put average players on mantles
Vallejo is just a guy.
Part of us moving into the "good" category of teams means we need to not put average players on mantles
And if there's someone who knows a ton about this, it would be a TTUN fan.
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Vallejo? Ray-Ray Armstrong is the next LB to look out for next year! Rated number 2 defender per PFF our last game against Baltimore.
Plus, his name is Ray-Ray!! Ray Squared! Boxing you in, walling you off.
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Has anyone thought about special teams. They were horrible. A real good special teamer and maybe a special coach to go with him? We haven’t even been a bit special there
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Has anyone thought about special teams. They were horrible. A real good special teamer and maybe a special coach to go with him? We haven’t even been a bit special there
Has anyone thought about special teams. They were horrible. A real good special teamer and maybe a special coach to go with him? We haven’t even been a bit special there
Yes we have. We have been specially bad.
I agree that Dline needs help and I've always thought that Myles had to stay way too much time on the field thus not being as effective. But I remember that last year's draft was heavy on RB and not on CB, so maybe going for the smaller group of LB in first round and Dline on second could work.
I would address the CB position too. For example, it was crazy playing against the Chiefs with Mitchell and Ward out.
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Has anyone thought about special teams. They were horrible. A real good special teamer and maybe a special coach to go with him? We haven’t even been a bit special there
Yes we have. We have been specially bad.
I agree that Dline needs help and I've always thought that Myles had to stay way too much time on the field thus not being as effective. But I remember that last year's draft was heavy on RB and not on CB, so maybe going for the smaller group of LB in first round and Dline on second could work.
I would address the CB position too. For example, it was crazy playing against the Chiefs with Mitchell and Ward out.
Yes we have. We have been specially bad.
I agree that Dline needs help and I've always thought that Myles had to stay way too much time on the field thus not being as effective. But I remember that last year's draft was heavy on RB and not on CB, so maybe going for the smaller group of LB in first round and Dline on second could work.
I would address the CB position too. For example, it was crazy playing against the Chiefs with Mitchell and Ward out.
Special teams was hand cuffing both the D and O. That will be overhauled. Which will then help the Whole team. Sure, a player here or there on D can help but nothing has killed us like that unit has
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maybe? getting Robbie Gould out of san fran would interest me? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/kicker drafting them, than expecting a rookie kicker to play beside a frozen lake with wind or anywhere in AFCN..i think it's time to pass on that one.Get a Vet (if he's there)
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Vallejo is just a guy.
Part of us moving into the "good" category of teams means we need to not put average players on mantles
Maybe, i cant know for sure....but i saw flashes from him that were elite level read and react. And he seemed to shed OL better than schobert. But thats eye test based on the TV angle....cant always see how he covers downfield. Speed and strength at the LOS seemed to be superior to our LB'ers including collins.
As for drafting a LB'er, im assuming theres a player u have in mind.....and im assuming i can guess where he plays...?
Maybe, i cant know for sure....but i saw flashes from him that were elite level read and react. And he seemed to shed OL better than schobert. But thats eye test based on the TV angle....cant always see how he covers downfield. Speed and strength at the LOS seemed to be superior to our LB'ers including collins.
As for drafting a LB'er, im assuming theres a player u have in mind.....and im assuming i can guess where he plays...?
Maaaayyybbbeeee
But, regardless, I think LB would be a smart move in the draft
- We can get our DT in FA
- Top DL will be gone by the time we pick
(Unless, like, Ed Oliver falls or something. Then pick him)
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Went with interior Dline.
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Wonder if Dexter Lawrence's PED issue makes him fall...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Wonder if Dexter Lawrence's PED issue makes him fall...
Does a fat puppy hate fast cars?
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Wonder if Dexter Lawrence's PED issue makes him fall...
Yeah precisely my first thought when it came out. Come to clev lawrence we got ur ostarine right here niggy....?
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Yeah precisely my first thought when it came out. Come to clev lawrence we got ur ostarine right here niggy....?
He has a team mate I wouldn't mind taking a long look at though.
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Yeah precisely my first thought when it came out. Come to clev lawrence we got ur ostarine right here....?
FIFY... no reason for the omitted word.
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A tackle would be nice to see Baker be able to operate in the pocket more.
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