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  • If I am replacing one starter, it is Coley at DT.

    Kirksey is probably next (sadly, because I like him) and we need to take a hard look at the OT situation.

    Love another big WR, gonna need another corner, and can't have enough pass rushers...

    BUT everything changes with a new coaching staff, the schemes they run, the type of players they want ... Prepare for change!

    Zombo

  • Z Zombo

    If I am replacing one starter, it is Coley at DT.

    Kirksey is probably next (sadly, because I like him) and we need to take a hard look at the OT situation.

    Love another big WR, gonna need another corner, and can't have enough pass rushers...

    BUT everything changes with a new coaching staff, the schemes they run, the type of players they want ... Prepare for change!

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    If I am replacing one starter, it is Coley at DT.

    Kirksey is probably next (sadly, because I like him) and we need to take a hard look at the OT situation.

    Love another big WR, gonna need another corner, and can't have enough pass rushers...

    BUT everything changes with a new coaching staff, the schemes they run, the type of players they want ... Prepare for change!

    Zombo

    Prefer the term prepare for upgrade rather than change 🙂  a lot less needs changing now compared to recent off seasons 🙂

  • If there is a change in coaching.  There will be a big change in players and a four win season.  It will take any squad time to adjust to a new coach and scheme.  Learning curve will last into week six of regular season.

  • darren15D darren15

    Any decent run stoppers in FA ?

    @darren15 said:

    Any decent run stoppers in FA ?

    Danny Shelton if a FA....😆

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  • darren15D darren15

    Any decent run stoppers in FA ?

    @darren15 said:

    Any decent run stoppers in FA ?

    Hunt is, ansah i think is too. Hunt could play all over the line he's a beast ..ansah is a LDE, and a good one. Id sign both honestly. Then we can target a rookie DT with no worries. 

  • Not surprised at Interior DL being #1, but surprised at:

    • how close LB finished, and
    • how low CB finished.

    I've been beating the 3-down LB drum for years, but voted CB after seeing what Ward brought and feeling like he might not be available enough going forward. Plus while I've always believed Wilson (remember him?) had a chance to be very, very good two years on the shelf has reduced his odds of impacting the game.

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  • A bad ass lb would go along way for the run defense 

    also they need a kicker

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • Let's go Linebacker!

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • LB'er is the last thing on that front 7 that needs anything right now. The DL needs help first, than we have to see what's up with Ward. I'm happy with Kirk, Collins, Schobert, Avery and Vallejo. Infact I think Vallejo might push one of those guys hard next year for the starting job. If Collins leaves than im open to signing or drafting someone .

  • C Clevfan4life

    LB'er is the last thing on that front 7 that needs anything right now. The DL needs help first, than we have to see what's up with Ward. I'm happy with Kirk, Collins, Schobert, Avery and Vallejo. Infact I think Vallejo might push one of those guys hard next year for the starting job. If Collins leaves than im open to signing or drafting someone .

    @clevfan4life said:

    LB'er is the last thing on that front 7 that needs anything right now. The DL needs help first, than we have to see what's up with Ward. I'm happy with Kirk, Collins, Schobert, Avery and Vallejo. Infact I think Vallejo might push one of those guys hard next year for the starting job. If Collins leaves than im open to signing or drafting someone .

    Vallejo is just a guy.

    Part of us moving into the "good" category of teams means we need to not put average players on mantles 

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @clevfan4life said:

    LB'er is the last thing on that front 7 that needs anything right now. The DL needs help first, than we have to see what's up with Ward. I'm happy with Kirk, Collins, Schobert, Avery and Vallejo. Infact I think Vallejo might push one of those guys hard next year for the starting job. If Collins leaves than im open to signing or drafting someone .

    Vallejo is just a guy.

    Part of us moving into the "good" category of teams means we need to not put average players on mantles 

    @mld-woody said:

    Vallejo is just a guy.

    Part of us moving into the "good" category of teams means we need to not put average players on mantles 

    Maybe, i cant know for sure....but i saw flashes from him that were elite level read and react. And he seemed to shed OL better than schobert. But thats eye test based on the TV angle....cant always see how he covers downfield. Speed and strength at the LOS seemed to be superior to our LB'ers including collins. 

    As for drafting a LB'er, im assuming theres a player u have in mind.....and im assuming i can guess where he plays...?

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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @clevfan4life said:

    LB'er is the last thing on that front 7 that needs anything right now. The DL needs help first, than we have to see what's up with Ward. I'm happy with Kirk, Collins, Schobert, Avery and Vallejo. Infact I think Vallejo might push one of those guys hard next year for the starting job. If Collins leaves than im open to signing or drafting someone .

    Vallejo is just a guy.

    Part of us moving into the "good" category of teams means we need to not put average players on mantles 

    @mld-woody said:

    Vallejo is just a guy.

    Part of us moving into the "good" category of teams means we need to not put average players on mantles 

    And if there's someone who knows a ton about this, it would be a TTUN fan. 😉

  • Vallejo? Ray-Ray Armstrong is the next LB to look out for next year! Rated number 2 defender per PFF our last game against Baltimore.

    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2019/1/3/18165544/browns-defensive-snap-counts-stats-and-pff-notes-week-17

    Plus, his name is Ray-Ray!! Ray Squared! Boxing you in, walling you off.

  • Has anyone thought about special teams. They were horrible. A real good special teamer and maybe a special coach to go with him? We haven’t even been a bit special there

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug

    Has anyone thought about special teams. They were horrible. A real good special teamer and maybe a special coach to go with him? We haven’t even been a bit special there

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Has anyone thought about special teams. They were horrible. A real good special teamer and maybe a special coach to go with him? We haven’t even been a bit special there

    Yes we have. We have been specially bad.

    I agree that Dline needs help and I've always thought that Myles had to stay way too much time on the field thus not being as effective. But I remember that last year's draft was heavy on RB and not on CB, so maybe going for the smaller group of LB in first round and Dline on second could work. 

    I would address the CB position too. For example, it was crazy playing against the Chiefs with Mitchell and Ward out.

  • NeroN Nero

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Has anyone thought about special teams. They were horrible. A real good special teamer and maybe a special coach to go with him? We haven’t even been a bit special there

    Yes we have. We have been specially bad.

    I agree that Dline needs help and I've always thought that Myles had to stay way too much time on the field thus not being as effective. But I remember that last year's draft was heavy on RB and not on CB, so maybe going for the smaller group of LB in first round and Dline on second could work. 

    I would address the CB position too. For example, it was crazy playing against the Chiefs with Mitchell and Ward out.

    @nero said:

    Yes we have. We have been specially bad.

    I agree that Dline needs help and I've always thought that Myles had to stay way too much time on the field thus not being as effective. But I remember that last year's draft was heavy on RB and not on CB, so maybe going for the smaller group of LB in first round and Dline on second could work. 

    I would address the CB position too. For example, it was crazy playing against the Chiefs with Mitchell and Ward out.

    Special teams was hand cuffing both the D and O. That will be overhauled. Which will then help the Whole team. Sure, a player here or there on D can help but nothing has killed us like that unit has

  • maybe? getting Robbie Gould out of san fran would interest me? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/kicker   drafting them, than expecting a rookie kicker to play beside a frozen lake with wind or anywhere in AFCN..i think it's time to pass on that one.Get a Vet (if he's there)

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  • C Clevfan4life

    @mld-woody said:

    Vallejo is just a guy.

    Part of us moving into the "good" category of teams means we need to not put average players on mantles 

    Maybe, i cant know for sure....but i saw flashes from him that were elite level read and react. And he seemed to shed OL better than schobert. But thats eye test based on the TV angle....cant always see how he covers downfield. Speed and strength at the LOS seemed to be superior to our LB'ers including collins. 

    As for drafting a LB'er, im assuming theres a player u have in mind.....and im assuming i can guess where he plays...?

    @clevfan4life said:

    Maybe, i cant know for sure....but i saw flashes from him that were elite level read and react. And he seemed to shed OL better than schobert. But thats eye test based on the TV angle....cant always see how he covers downfield. Speed and strength at the LOS seemed to be superior to our LB'ers including collins. 

    As for drafting a LB'er, im assuming theres a player u have in mind.....and im assuming i can guess where he plays...?

    Maaaayyybbbeeee

    But, regardless, I think LB would be a smart move in the draft

    - We can get our DT in FA

    - Top DL will be gone by the time we pick

    (Unless, like, Ed Oliver falls or something. Then pick him)

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • Went with interior Dline.

  • Wonder if Dexter Lawrence's PED issue makes him fall...

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