Browns Owner screwing it up again
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...and why is Grossi getting the blame?....that's not where I heard it.
Grossi isn't getting the blame....it is just one guy on here that has a hard on for him.
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Grossi isn't getting the blame....it is just one guy on here that has a hard on for him.
Though there are legit questions how many sources (if any) Grossi has left inside the organization. Would it be a stretch to say MKC has more?
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Grossi isn't getting the blame....it is just one guy on here that has a hard on for him.
Though there are legit questions how many sources (if any) Grossi has left inside the organization. Would it be a stretch to say MKC has more?
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The owner(management, director, GM, etc) can’t please everybody. It was common knowledge that this was gonna be difficult offseason, the most challenging in a long time.
This thread is a microcosm of that
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Gee, nobody seems to mention Bill Parcells in this. He is consulting with the Haslams.
could you see Parcells asking his wife anything about football? thanks for stepping in Bill !!
could you see Parcells asking his wife anything about football? thanks for stepping in Bill !!
He has been “consulting” with jimmy for some time now. I’m thinking about the same time that haslam started showing a working brain cell. BP strongly suggested Dorsey. Jimmy listened
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He has been “consulting” with jimmy for some time now. I’m thinking about the same time that haslam started showing a working brain cell. BP strongly suggested Dorsey. Jimmy listened
Remember when Art Modell hired Bill Belichick.......on the advice of Bobby Knight?
I mean, that could have worked out....but what we got instead was a heaping helping of Turdle soup.
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He has been “consulting” with jimmy for some time now. I’m thinking about the same time that haslam started showing a working brain cell. BP strongly suggested Dorsey. Jimmy listened
Remember when Art Modell hired Bill Belichick.......on the advice of Bobby Knight?
I mean, that could have worked out....but what we got instead was a heaping helping of Turdle soup.
Remember when Art Modell hired Bill Belichick.......on the advice of Bobby Knight?
I mean, that could have worked out....but what we got instead was a heaping helping of Turdle soup.
I'd say it did work out. Made the playoffs and won a playoff game in the 3rd or 4th season with the Browns, team was trending in the right direction until the announcement in November 95 and the season went in the shitter after that. I'd say it was a hire that worked out and should've worked out for a longer term if not for Art and his money problems.
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Remember when Art Modell hired Bill Belichick.......on the advice of Bobby Knight?
I mean, that could have worked out....but what we got instead was a heaping helping of Turdle soup.
I'd say it did work out. Made the playoffs and won a playoff game in the 3rd or 4th season with the Browns, team was trending in the right direction until the announcement in November 95 and the season went in the shitter after that. I'd say it was a hire that worked out and should've worked out for a longer term if not for Art and his money problems.
I'd say it did work out. Made the playoffs and won a playoff game in the 3rd or 4th season with the Browns, team was trending in the right direction until the announcement in November 95 and the season went in the shitter after that. I'd say it was a hire that worked out and should've worked out for a longer term if not for Art and his money problems.
Meh.....maybe....I think it should have worked out that I would have won that 1.6 billion dollar lottery. Can't change history . We had 4 out of 5 losing seasons with BB......and of course we had all the drama and bile that came with him.
SOME claim that the animosity that the fans had toward BB enable Modell to make the decision to try to move. I don't know about that.
I do know that Modell did not want the Bitter Beer face to be the face of his new franchise in Baltimore...so he canned him.
In some respects...things worked out for both of them. While Modell's money problems never got any better, he did get his money out of the team when he was forced to sell it and found Biscotti to buy it. It worked out for B-more...in that Biscotti brought them 2 titles (yes...I give credit to Biscotti...NOT to ElCid Modell). It worked out for BB because he eventually made it to NE....and he got extremely lucky having a 6th round pick become the plausible GOAT. In sense...the only ones who got screwed heavily were the fans of Cleveland! Three years no team...and 20 years of a shit show with the owners we have had.
But! Now....the Browns are going to roll through the NFL like a Panzer Unit:
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Most all local reports have the Haslams as part of John Dorsey’s search committee for head coach candidates. But where the rubber hits the road, Kitchens reports to Dorsey. The haslams have been and are letting Dorsey run the Browns. The national media are a bunch of liars.
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Most all local reports have the Haslams as part of John Dorsey’s search committee for head coach candidates. But where the rubber hits the road, Kitchens reports to Dorsey. The haslams have been and are letting Dorsey run the Browns. The national media are a bunch of liars.
Most all local reports have the Haslams as part of John Dorsey’s search committee for head coach candidates. But where the rubber hits the road, Kitchens reports to Dorsey. The haslams have been and are letting Dorsey run the Browns. The national media are a bunch of liars.
here we go again
..Wilks or from out of nowhere (Parcells to Jimmy "try another gift") Steve Spagnuolo..tick tock... (my recent late father would have picked Spag's up at the airport 
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Most all local reports have the Haslams as part of John Dorsey’s search committee for head coach candidates. But where the rubber hits the road, Kitchens reports to Dorsey. The haslams have been and are letting Dorsey run the Browns. The national media are a bunch of liars.
here we go again
..Wilks or from out of nowhere (Parcells to Jimmy "try another gift") Steve Spagnuolo..tick tock... (my recent late father would have picked Spag's up at the airport )
here we go again
..Wilks or from out of nowhere (Parcells to Jimmy "try another gift") Steve Spagnuolo..tick tock...
One guy said the Browns had the most attractive HC job because of Baker Mayfield. Another sez it’s the worst HC job because of Baker Mayfield....... hilarious
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One guy said the Browns had the most attractive HC job because of Baker Mayfield. Another sez it’s the worst HC job because of Baker Mayfield....... hilarious
Two people have different opinions on the same subject?
Earth shattering news there.
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@dutch-oven said:
Your sense of humor needs work.
Especially if his humerus is connected to the funny bone...
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@flyingfooldoug said:
Look up the word hilarious
@dutch-oven said:
Your sense of humor needs work.
And this has what to do with the Browns? cool it guys...
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Browns Owner screwing it up again
I've stayed out of this thread up until now. I'm not a big Haslam fan. But it didn't seem to me that he was 'screwing it up' too much this time around. Of course we can't know how involved he was. We don't know if Freddie was Haslam's mandate. But it seems like it could've been Dorsey's show. We DO KNOW that Haslam wan't on stage for today's presser introducing Freddie. Perhaps, in Dorsey, he has someone he feels he can trust and has turned more of the reigns over to him.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
It is true that people believe conspiracy theories. Still waiting on that actual evidence of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction..
I have yet to see one piece of evidence that could even be construed to be interference by Haslam. Until then, I don't believe assertions.
Like every single other fan....including every single one of all of you.....we only get our information from them media. If they make a statement...we have no way to confirm it. If they make a mistake...we have no way to correct it. We have to wait until other media.....or the same media, comes out with corrections.
So, unless you were one of the 8-10 motherfuckers who sat in on that search committee...your information was not one goddamned farthing better than anything that I or anyone else has heard about what went on. If there are speculations...we may repeat them...until we know the actual truth.
And, by the way....the Mafia killed JFK. There were no weapons of mass destruction...that was just a prevarication for an excuse to go after Saddam.
And there are beings on other planets (but that does not mean that they have visited us)
Like every single other fan....including every single one of all of you.....we only get our information from them media. If they make a statement...we have no way to confirm it. If they make a mistake...we have no way to correct it. We have to wait until other media.....or the same media, comes out with corrections.
So, unless you were one of the 8-10 motherfuckers who sat in on that search committee...your information was not one goddamned farthing better than anything that I or anyone else has heard about what went on. If there are speculations...we may repeat them...until we know the actual truth.
And, by the way....the Mafia killed JFK. There were no weapons of mass destruction...that was just a prevarication for an excuse to go after Saddam.
And there are beings on other planets (but that does not mean that they have visited us)
you are correct however, we should have kept kitchens as our oc as now he will not have as much time with baker as he did when he was oc...big mistake....and very seldom does this shit work when you hire within for a hc....stupid move in my opinion whoever made it...watch and see....
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I am guessing some of you feel silly in hind sight ?, trust the process
Maybe Jimmy didn't fuck it up this time....but apparently not without trying. I heard that Depo and maybe Berry wanted Stefanski....but that Dorsey stuck to his guns with Kitchen....and got his way.
So maybe, just maybe, JimmyDee is brightening up.
Maybe Jimmy didn't fuck it up this time....but apparently not without trying. I heard that Depo and maybe Berry wanted Stefanski....but that Dorsey stuck to his guns with Kitchen....and got his way.
So maybe, just maybe, JimmyDee is brightening up.
or maybe they said it was a person that need to be considered. I don't see Depo as a decision maker.. He may be a decision breaker. I see it as he said here is another option we might need to look at.
In the end, Dorsey said that everybody was in agreement
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Like every single other fan....including every single one of all of you.....we only get our information from them media. If they make a statement...we have no way to confirm it. If they make a mistake...we have no way to correct it. We have to wait until other media.....or the same media, comes out with corrections.
So, unless you were one of the 8-10 motherfuckers who sat in on that search committee...your information was not one goddamned farthing better than anything that I or anyone else has heard about what went on. If there are speculations...we may repeat them...until we know the actual truth.
And, by the way....the Mafia killed JFK. There were no weapons of mass destruction...that was just a prevarication for an excuse to go after Saddam.
And there are beings on other planets (but that does not mean that they have visited us)
you are correct however, we should have kept kitchens as our oc as now he will not have as much time with baker as he did when he was oc...big mistake....and very seldom does this shit work when you hire within for a hc....stupid move in my opinion whoever made it...watch and see....
you are correct however, we should have kept kitchens as our oc as now he will not have as much time with baker as he did when he was oc...big mistake....and very seldom does this shit work when you hire within for a hc....stupid move in my opinion whoever made it...watch and see....
Yeah...working out terrible for the Rams having the HC call the plays and work with the QB. Would suck to have that kind of success.
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Like every single other fan....including every single one of all of you.....we only get our information from them media. If they make a statement...we have no way to confirm it. If they make a mistake...we have no way to correct it. We have to wait until other media.....or the same media, comes out with corrections.
So, unless you were one of the 8-10 motherfuckers who sat in on that search committee...your information was not one goddamned farthing better than anything that I or anyone else has heard about what went on. If there are speculations...we may repeat them...until we know the actual truth.
And, by the way....the Mafia killed JFK. There were no weapons of mass destruction...that was just a prevarication for an excuse to go after Saddam.
And there are beings on other planets (but that does not mean that they have visited us)
you are correct however, we should have kept kitchens as our oc as now he will not have as much time with baker as he did when he was oc...big mistake....and very seldom does this shit work when you hire within for a hc....stupid move in my opinion whoever made it...watch and see....
you are correct however, we should have kept kitchens as our oc as now he will not have as much time with baker as he did when he was oc...big mistake....and very seldom does this shit work when you hire within for a hc....stupid move in my opinion whoever made it...watch and see....
I don’t believe I asserted that Freddy should continue to be our OC. I don’t believe I favored anyone in particular for the head coaching job other than to say that the team we had their Williams and kitchen seem to be doing well
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Like every single other fan....including every single one of all of you.....we only get our information from them media. If they make a statement...we have no way to confirm it. If they make a mistake...we have no way to correct it. We have to wait until other media.....or the same media, comes out with corrections.
So, unless you were one of the 8-10 motherfuckers who sat in on that search committee...your information was not one goddamned farthing better than anything that I or anyone else has heard about what went on. If there are speculations...we may repeat them...until we know the actual truth.
And, by the way....the Mafia killed JFK. There were no weapons of mass destruction...that was just a prevarication for an excuse to go after Saddam.
And there are beings on other planets (but that does not mean that they have visited us)
you are correct however, we should have kept kitchens as our oc as now he will not have as much time with baker as he did when he was oc...big mistake....and very seldom does this shit work when you hire within for a hc....stupid move in my opinion whoever made it...watch and see....
you are correct however, we should have kept kitchens as our oc as now he will not have as much time with baker as he did when he was oc...big mistake....and very seldom does this shit work when you hire within for a hc....stupid move in my opinion whoever made it...watch and see....
i suppose the better idea would have been to allow kitchens to get poached next year, leaving us with nothing. way to think that one through...?
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