Inside the Browns front office, ESPN
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Of course we have to factor in that this is just an article that may just be mostly hearsay or guesswork
I mean at lot of it would have been easy to guess at the time with just a few little nuggets in
Not saying it’s fake just that this is just someone view of how things went down
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Of course we have to factor in that this is just an article that may just be mostly hearsay or guesswork
I mean at lot of it would have been easy to guess at the time with just a few little nuggets in
Not saying it’s fake just that this is just someone view of how things went down
Of course we have to factor in that this is just an article that may just be mostly hearsay or guesswork
I mean at lot of it would have been easy to guess at the time with just a few little nuggets in
Not saying it’s fake just that this is just someone view of how things went down
Well said & who the hell is Seth Wickersham anyway? Just another writer I never heard of.
..and this Jimmy "the problem" Haslam guy.....is he the one who hired John Dorsey?
To others.....It's time to let the past go folks. Things are looking positive, so let's please move on.
Lee, again...Thank You.
Mike
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As many on this board suspected, Haslam has been the driving force behind the last 6 years of Suck. The Hue Jackson Debacle was brought to you exclusively by Jimmy Haslam. As a Browns fan, this article left me feeling sick. What a shitshow.
Haslam told the front office he was pleased with the drafts and free agency but also seemed torn, wanting a heavyweight football name at the helm. He had gone from a nontraditional hire in Banner to a lifelong scout in Farmer and then swung back to an unorthodox pick in Brown. Now he wanted to swing the other way. On Dec. 7, Haslam entered Brown's office and fired him. According to people who saw him afterward, Haslam looked frayed when he exited the meeting, knowing he'd gone back on his word to Brown. Friends around the league urged Haslam to start over clean and fire Jackson too, but he refused. Dorsey was hired as GM that same day. The Browns were starting over again, with another arranged marriage between coach and GM.
"We just don't know what we are doing," Dee said in the office around that time, according to multiple sources in the building, a refrain they had heard her utter before but that she denied through a team spokesman. "If we'd known how hard it would be, we never would have bought the team."
Who knew running an NFL franchise was so complicated? Fucking hell.
Obviously, the future success of the Browns hinges on Jimmy suppressing every instinct he has and getting out of the way and letting the football guys make football decisions. But the last couple of paragraphs of the article don't instill me with high hopes of that happening.
"We just don't know what we are doing," Dee said in the office around that time, according to multiple sources in the building, a refrain they had heard her utter before but that she denied through a team spokesman. "If we'd known how hard it would be, we never would have bought the team."
We could see that Dee. What kind of looney owners fire 2 head coaches in one Calendar year? And YEARS ago Joe Banner confided that ALL outlets, scouts, consultants, front office people said to NOT draft Manziel. So he fired Banner and drafted Johnny. Haslam is a marketing guy and he wanted the Johnny Football Glitz.
At least NOW, he has stepped out of the way. And I'll give him credit for the Dorsey hire and stepping aside to let Dorsey do the drafting, coaching hire, etc.
...oh, and Dee...there's still time to sell the team.
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Someone please tell me this didn't actually happen

"Marketing executives wanted employees to see how fans were engaging with the Browns on social media, so they projected the Browns feed onto a giant wall at the facility. It was like broadcasting talk radio over the entire building, and one day in particular, it was worse than that. One of the marketing staffers entered a search for #dp — for Dawg Pound. The problem was, that hashtag carried a few different meanings, one of which triggered an array of porn to be broadcast onto a wall for the entire office to see for more than 20 minutes, until a tech employee killed the feed."
20 minutes eh?
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Someone please tell me this didn't actually happen

"Marketing executives wanted employees to see how fans were engaging with the Browns on social media, so they projected the Browns feed onto a giant wall at the facility. It was like broadcasting talk radio over the entire building, and one day in particular, it was worse than that. One of the marketing staffers entered a search for #dp — for Dawg Pound. The problem was, that hashtag carried a few different meanings, one of which triggered an array of porn to be broadcast onto a wall for the entire office to see for more than 20 minutes, until a tech employee killed the feed."
20 minutes eh?
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Of course we have to factor in that this is just an article that may just be mostly hearsay or guesswork
I mean at lot of it would have been easy to guess at the time with just a few little nuggets in
Not saying it’s fake just that this is just someone view of how things went down
Well said & who the hell is Seth Wickersham anyway? Just another writer I never heard of.
..and this Jimmy "the problem" Haslam guy.....is he the one who hired John Dorsey?
To others.....It's time to let the past go folks. Things are looking positive, so let's please move on.
Lee, again...Thank You.
Mike
Well said & who the hell is Seth Wickersham anyway? Just another writer I never heard of.
..and this Jimmy "the problem" Haslam guy.....is he the one who hired John Dorsey?
To others.....It's time to let the past go folks. Things are looking positive, so let's please move on.
Lee, again...Thank You.
Mike
If I recall correctly he is the same guy who wrote the expose on the New England Patriots talking about dysfunction and turmoil between Brady and Kraft and Bill Belichick. It seemed to work out fine for them as they are in the Super Bowl so maybe that's a sign of things to come for us.
I just looked it up he is the same guy he wrote an article on January 4th 2018 about the downfall of the Patriots in the turmoil between craft and Bill. So if all things follow suit we'll be in the Super Bowl next year
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Well said & who the hell is Seth Wickersham anyway? Just another writer I never heard of.
..and this Jimmy "the problem" Haslam guy.....is he the one who hired John Dorsey?
To others.....It's time to let the past go folks. Things are looking positive, so let's please move on.
Lee, again...Thank You.
Mike
If I recall correctly he is the same guy who wrote the expose on the New England Patriots talking about dysfunction and turmoil between Brady and Kraft and Bill Belichick. It seemed to work out fine for them as they are in the Super Bowl so maybe that's a sign of things to come for us.
I just looked it up he is the same guy he wrote an article on January 4th 2018 about the downfall of the Patriots in the turmoil between craft and Bill. So if all things follow suit we'll be in the Super Bowl next year
If I recall correctly he is the same guy who wrote the expose on the New England Patriots talking about dysfunction and turmoil between Brady and Kraft and Bill Belichick. It seemed to work out fine for them as they are in the Super Bowl so maybe that's a sign of things to come for us.
I just looked it up he is the same guy he wrote an article on January 4th 2018 about the downfall of the Patriots in the turmoil between craft and Bill. So if all things follow suit we'll be in the Super Bowl next year
EXACTLY! Just another media guy sensationalizing everything he can. What amazes me is the number of people who read media bullcrap every year yet quote the same idiots again the next year. LOL
Mike
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wtf..i had to bail.. "after F'hue learns we traded a 34 year old 'punter' for a 24 year old 'punter' & received a 4th rounder" Am telling Hue to gtf out of my office 'than' Haslam..This reads like a 4/5 way campfire circle jerk with all recent & former espn employees chiming in...Grossi,Banner,Farmer & Lombardi maybe sprinkles from even Mangini..back to plugging my nose while finishing this non breaking news.. Edit--I made it
to the best part, The End.. Dorsey privately told associate "I flexed my 'Ballsack Judge' muscles & got what I wanted" than cranked on some Pink Floyd after tearing down Jimmy's Wall..
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We better hope that Dorsey and Co. is the long-term answer, because this has painted a picture that his (what seems successful) hiring was most likely an accident. I'll give the Haslams credit enough that they've actually allowed someone to create an honest to dog football organization, where there is a legit chain of command, but I shudder at the idea of something causing a rift between Dorsey and Haslam.
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We are hoping that the great filter is behind us and that Jimmy will let Dorsey do his thing. Even when a draft pick or two doesn't work out (as is the case for every GM).
...I mean, we had Kyle Shannahan tell the Browns that he wasn't gonna finish out his contract and that he was getting out-a-here. Dysfunction to the max. (a GM texting the sidelines about play calling and player involvement during a game....nobody knew their 'place' in the organization. Phucking Embarrassing!) Of course, Kosar told us early on in Haslam's ownership that the team's problems start at the very top.
Again, perhaps as Dee said, they've realized that they don't know what they're doing so they're going to let the pros do the heaving lifting from now on.
Today, on Bull & Fox, Dorsey said that he 'Flexed his muscle and got his man' regarding hiring Kitchens. That's what we need! Dorsey calling the football shots. Now, Dorsey is on a limb with picking Freddie....because obviously it wasn't unanimous....but he said that in listening to Freddie and his views of playing the game, the type of players he wants, on what matters, he found that they both have the same views & goals. - Dorsey was asked about the hiring of coordinators and coaches and how much he had to do with Freddie's choices and he said that they worked as a team in the sense that he (Dorsey) helped with a couple of suggestions, "You might want to talk to 'this' guy or this other guy." Dorsey said that he thought Freddie put together a great staff (of course he'd say that anyway). But I DO agree that he's got some notable people around him to help him learn what he doesn't know about being a HC.
I hope Freddie is a good coach. And I hope Baker is a good QB going forward. Because I want the team to be successful. So that Dorsey can keep calling the shots and keep us Successful.
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Im still laughing that a fired head coach told the OWNER to get out of my fucking office ???
I'm still laughing that a fired head coach told the OWNER to get out of my fucking office ???
LOL- I'm the guy sitting in this chair.... " Would you like me to call security to escort you the hell out of it?" ?
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If I recall correctly he is the same guy who wrote the expose on the New England Patriots talking about dysfunction and turmoil between Brady and Kraft and Bill Belichick. It seemed to work out fine for them as they are in the Super Bowl so maybe that's a sign of things to come for us.
I just looked it up he is the same guy he wrote an article on January 4th 2018 about the downfall of the Patriots in the turmoil between craft and Bill. So if all things follow suit we'll be in the Super Bowl next year
EXACTLY! Just another media guy sensationalizing everything he can. What amazes me is the number of people who read media bullcrap every year yet quote the same idiots again the next year. LOL
Mike
EXACTLY! Just another media guy sensationalizing everything he can. What amazes me is the number of people who read media bullcrap every year yet quote the same idiots again the next year. LOL
Mike
It amazes me that idiots like Skip and Colon buy this shit. Then run with it like greedy dogs...
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EXACTLY! Just another media guy sensationalizing everything he can. What amazes me is the number of people who read media bullcrap every year yet quote the same idiots again the next year. LOL
Mike
It amazes me that idiots like Skip and Colon buy this shit. Then run with it like greedy dogs...
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Someone please tell me this didn't actually happen

"Marketing executives wanted employees to see how fans were engaging with the Browns on social media, so they projected the Browns feed onto a giant wall at the facility. It was like broadcasting talk radio over the entire building, and one day in particular, it was worse than that. One of the marketing staffers entered a search for #dp — for Dawg Pound. The problem was, that hashtag carried a few different meanings, one of which triggered an array of porn to be broadcast onto a wall for the entire office to see for more than 20 minutes, until a tech employee killed the feed."
20 minutes eh?
Someone please tell me this didn't actually happen

"Marketing executives wanted employees to see how fans were engaging with the Browns on social media, so they projected the Browns feed onto a giant wall at the facility. It was like broadcasting talk radio over the entire building, and one day in particular, it was worse than that. One of the marketing staffers entered a search for #dp — for Dawg Pound. The problem was, that hashtag carried a few different meanings, one of which triggered an array of porn to be broadcast onto a wall for the entire office to see for more than 20 minutes, until a tech employee killed the feed."
20 minutes eh?
What a load of fucking pussies
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Someone please tell me this didn't actually happen

"Marketing executives wanted employees to see how fans were engaging with the Browns on social media, so they projected the Browns feed onto a giant wall at the facility. It was like broadcasting talk radio over the entire building, and one day in particular, it was worse than that. One of the marketing staffers entered a search for #dp — for Dawg Pound. The problem was, that hashtag carried a few different meanings, one of which triggered an array of porn to be broadcast onto a wall for the entire office to see for more than 20 minutes, until a tech employee killed the feed."
20 minutes eh?
What a load of fucking pussies
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According to Justin Fox, it wasn't 20 minutes. It was an oversight and was corrected promptly once word got to the techey people. lol
Can you imagine being in the office. "Hey Bud, should we report this? - Report what?"
Do you really think that all these football players had not seen porn before?
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According to Justin Fox, it wasn't 20 minutes. It was an oversight and was corrected promptly once word got to the techey people. lol
Can you imagine being in the office. "Hey Bud, should we report this? - Report what?"
Do you really think that all these football players had not seen porn before?
Do you really think that all these football players had not seen porn before?
I don't believe it was in the locker room where the players are. It was in the office where the front office people are the marketing people are the white-collar workers of the organization. Also yes I imagine even most of them had seen porn before but it's not something you would expect to see in a workplace. As someone said 20 minutes was an exaggeration, if it went on for that long I would assume that people were intentionally leaving it up.
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Best comment I've seen so far that sums up Jimmah's ownership:
"Comrade Haslam and his "Reign of Error".
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So you have wonder who thw source was. This was someone clealry on the inside. My guess is Sashi
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