Imagine Saquon at 1 and Mayfield at 4
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Yeah.. I saw an interesting rant from Mike Francesca... basically saying guys like OBJ,Julio Jones and Antonio brown have 0 SB rings... And do nothing for your team but impart drama and bad feelings.. Like we keep saying "Football is a TEAM sport"
We just saw that yesterday. The GOAT Brady (gosh, I hate to say that) has Edelman (the Patriots version of our Jarvis Landry)- and a bunch nobodies at WR and just won another Super Bowl...
Franchise QB trumps franchise running back, every time. I tried to tell you-know-who- Brady now has six rings, that's more than Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Ladainian Tomlinson, and Adrian Peterson- combined.
We just saw that yesterday. The GOAT Brady (gosh, I hate to say that) has Edelman (the Patriots version of our Jarvis Landry)- and a bunch nobodies at WR and just won another Super Bowl...
Franchise QB trumps franchise running back, every time. I tried to tell you-know-who- Brady now has six rings, that's more than Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Ladainian Tomlinson, and Adrian Peterson- combined.
Curious on who may have been the RB that really lead a team to multiple championships.....I will try to check it out.
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We just saw that yesterday. The GOAT Brady (gosh, I hate to say that) has Edelman (the Patriots version of our Jarvis Landry)- and a bunch nobodies at WR and just won another Super Bowl...
Franchise QB trumps franchise running back, every time. I tried to tell you-know-who- Brady now has six rings, that's more than Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Ladainian Tomlinson, and Adrian Peterson- combined.
Curious on who may have been the RB that really lead a team to multiple championships.....I will try to check it out.
Curious on who may have been the RB that really lead a team to multiple championships.....I will try to check it out.
I'll guess probably none... Of the best all time running backs- Emmett Smith, Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, Marcus Allen, Franco Harris who won Super Bowls- the common denominator is they all played on teams loaded with HOF talent at other positions...
The closest I can come up with is John Riggins....
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From what I can garner....the following are the only RBs who may be argued to have "Led" their team to multiple championships in the Super Bowl era, in that they had some major impact on two or more SB games:
Franco Harris
Emmit Smith
Larry Csonka
Roger Craig
Terrell Davis
John Riggins.
But...as Hoorta said....these teams had a lot of other talent going for them in the games they played.
(Steelers: Bradshaw/Swann/Stallworth; Dolphins: Griese/Warfield/Morris; 49ers: Montana/Rice; Davis: Elway; Smith: Aikman/Irvin.)
I DO think that Riggins WAS the leader of the Redskins team that won the title in 1983. Also.....Marcus Allen was the leader of the Raiders in 1983
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We just saw that yesterday. The GOAT Brady (gosh, I hate to say that) has Edelman (the Patriots version of our Jarvis Landry)- and a bunch nobodies at WR and just won another Super Bowl...
Franchise QB trumps franchise running back, every time. I tried to tell you-know-who- Brady now has six rings, that's more than Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Ladainian Tomlinson, and Adrian Peterson- combined.
Curious on who may have been the RB that really lead a team to multiple championships.....I will try to check it out.
Curious on who may have been the RB that really lead a team to multiple championships.....I will try to check it out.
Terrell Davis.
Zombo
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Curious on who may have been the RB that really lead a team to multiple championships.....I will try to check it out.
Terrell Davis.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Terrell Davis.
Zombo
He was a major factor in one game......scored 3 TDs. In the other, not so much, No TDs...though he did like do a job of running out the clock. That was Elway's game.
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I guess this is the first "I'm bored, let's discuss about the weather" topic of the offseason.
It came earlier than I expected.
I guess this is the first "I'm bored, let's discuss about the weather" topic of the offseason.
It came earlier than I expected.
I don't think this is boring....it is much more interesting to me than most of the shit that is piled on here.
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I don't think this is boring....it is much more interesting to me than most of the shit that is piled on here.
The topic is one year late...
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Zombo said:
Terrell Davis.
Zombo
He was a major factor in one game......scored 3 TDs. In the other, not so much, No TDs...though he did like do a job of running out the clock. That was Elway's game.
He was a major factor in one game......scored 3 TDs. In the other, not so much, No TDs...though he did like do a job of running out the clock. That was Elway's game.
You are talking about the actual game?
By "leading a team to multiple championships" it took it to mean the MVP of the team, Davis was their best player both years they won.
Zombo
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I don't think this is boring....it is much more interesting to me than most of the shit that is piled on here.
The topic is one year late...
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He was a major factor in one game......scored 3 TDs. In the other, not so much, No TDs...though he did like do a job of running out the clock. That was Elway's game.
You are talking about the actual game?
By "leading a team to multiple championships" it took it to mean the MVP of the team, Davis was their best player both years they won.
Zombo
Zombo said:
You are talking about the actual game?
By "leading a team to multiple championships" it took it to mean the MVP of the team, Davis was their best player both years they won.
Zombo
I was basically talking about the actual Super Bowl game yes. But, if you want to extrapolate it out to the entire seasons....OK. Was TD really the MVP of that team BOTH of those seasons? Even over Elway both years?
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Zombo said:
You are talking about the actual game?
By "leading a team to multiple championships" it took it to mean the MVP of the team, Davis was their best player both years they won.
Zombo
I was basically talking about the actual Super Bowl game yes. But, if you want to extrapolate it out to the entire seasons....OK. Was TD really the MVP of that team BOTH of those seasons? Even over Elway both years?
I was basically talking about the actual Super Bowl game yes. But, if you want to extrapolate it out to the entire seasons....OK. Was TD really the MVP of that team BOTH of those seasons? Even over Elway both years?
Davis was First Team All Pro Both Seasons and MVP of the League in 98.
He ran for 3,758 yards and 36 TDs over the two championship seasons. Elway, while stile very effective, was coming off some .500 seasons before they found a running game with Davis.
Zombo
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Zombo said:
Terrell Davis.
Zombo
He was a major factor in one game......scored 3 TDs. In the other, not so much, No TDs...though he did like do a job of running out the clock. That was Elway's game.
He was a major factor in one game......scored 3 TDs. In the other, not so much, No TDs...though he did like do a job of running out the clock. That was Elway's game.
Zombo said:
Davis was First Team All Pro Both Seasons and MVP of the League in 98.
He ran for 3,758 yards and 36 TDs over the two championship seasons. Elway, while stile very effective, was coming off some .500 seasons before they found a running game with Davis.
Zombo
OK, I'll buy that one... My initial thought was not just MVP of the Super Bowl- it was which running back was the de facto leader of the offense that got them there besides.... That narrows it down to Davis and Riggins....
Which reinforces what my initial point was. Having a top running back is nice, but it's rarely the ticket to the Super Bowl.... And as WSS (sort of) said, you can bet it would take the Giants about two seconds to decide to trade Saquon to the Browns for Mayfield straight up....
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Droooooooolllll
Discuss
No thanks. Mayfield/Ward/Chubb is better than Barkley and hoping that Mayfield would be there at 4. Stupid topic a year later....why not imagine the players we have getting better instead of always focusing on the players who don't play here. I don't understand it. The Browns are a good young team and should only get better next season and in the years to come but some of you still want to live in the past and wish and hope for other players. Blows my mind..
No thanks. Mayfield/Ward/Chubb is better than Barkley and hoping that Mayfield would be there at 4. Stupid topic a year later....why not imagine the players we have getting better instead of always focusing on the players who don't play here. I don't understand it. The Browns are a good young team and should only get better next season and in the years to come but some of you still want to live in the past and wish and hope for other players. Blows my mind..
Perfectly stated Mark & I'll never be able to prove it, but there is no way Baker would be there at 4.
BTW, Baker, Ward, & Chubb were the 3 I wanted, in that order. I sweated bullets when we didn't grab Chubb with our FIRST 2nd round pick. I was elated he was still there for us with our 2nd round 2 pick & ecstatic when we took him.
Mike
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Another Ghoolie feeble attempt see- I was right. I'm done arguing with the flamebaiter... I'm so glad we don't have to deal with his crap anymore... His audience is continually shrinking... If you wouldn't mind- please don't repost his doings over here, I and most other folks could care less... Next time you see him, tell him OROY Barkley improved the Giants by two wins, 3-13 to 5-11. #2 in the draft to #6... Baker improved the Browns from 0-16 to 7-8-1. #1 in the draft to #17. Baker had far more impact in the W-L column than Barkley.
Also next time you see him tell him Paxton Lynch is a surefire fucktard bust
Also next time you see him tell him Paxton Lynch is a surefire fucktard bust
And just how washed up Brady is.. Wasn't even supposed to get to another Super Bowl, much less win one...
Ooohhhh!!! Looks like someone unfriended me on FaceBook.... I'm so crushed...
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Yeah.. I saw an interesting rant from Mike Francesca... basically saying guys like OBJ,Julio Jones and Antonio brown have 0 SB rings... And do nothing for your team but impart drama and bad feelings.. Like we keep saying "Football is a TEAM sport"
We just saw that yesterday. The GOAT Brady (gosh, I hate to say that) has Edelman (the Patriots version of our Jarvis Landry)- and a bunch nobodies at WR and just won another Super Bowl...
Franchise QB trumps franchise running back, every time. I tried to tell you-know-who- Brady now has six rings, that's more than Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Ladainian Tomlinson, and Adrian Peterson- combined.
We just saw that yesterday. The GOAT Brady (gosh, I hate to say that) has Edelman (the Patriots version of our Jarvis Landry)- and a bunch nobodies at WR and just won another Super Bowl...
Franchise QB trumps franchise running back, every time. I tried to tell you-know-who- Brady now has six rings, that's more than Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Ladainian Tomlinson, and Adrian Peterson- combined.
I have always said and maintain that teams go as they're respective QB goes.. not the other way around.. Not the RB.. All a RB does is wear down defenses down.. move the chains when needed.. its mostly on your QB.. Baker proved that this past season.. .. I believe Emmitt Smith has 3 rings if I'm not mistaken... But that Dallas team was sure loaded with a stalwart roster...
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This is a silly post.
Imagine your dick was 4 inches longer!
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This is a silly post.
Imagine your dick was 4 inches longer!
This is a silly post.
Imagine your dick was 4 inches longer!
May I say that 20'' is way too much...
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