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Could be a good move, but kicking in a dome, compared to the elements and wind. Like to see some stats comparing his dome/outside efficiency
Could be a good move, but kicking in a dome, compared to the elements and wind. Like to see some stats comparing his dome/outside efficiency
2018
20 FG made, 21 attempted (95.2%) ... 6/7 outdoors (85.7%)
2017
34/39 (87.2%) ---- 16/19 (84.2%)
2016
34/37 (91.9%) ---- 16/18 (88.8%)
I don't know if those numbers are scary or not, I'd say all the kickers have better stats in doomed stadiums so the drop is not that bad. I guess that injuries and missing games have something to do with it. He missed 3 weeks last season (and he had the bye in between).
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he's 44, and couldn't do kickoffs last year as he has a hard time reaching the end zone. not sure how much of an upgrade he is...wanna see joseph in camp to evaluate if he improved over the offseason.
dont forget it took dawson a couple years to become dawson. browns (and fans by extension) gotta reverse the "he sucks after one year so move on" mentality.
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I hear that the Browns also released Tanner Vallejo.....and that the Cardinals ...who have first dibs, picked him up in a microsecond.
Considering what we all believe to be a problem at that position...I am not sure why the Browns would have chopped this guy.
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Tanner Vallejo was a 6th round draft pick in 2017. He's a decent depth LB, but he also got hurt playing LB at only like 210lbs. Maybe Dorsey see's better options? Wilks didn't like his tape? Maybe Tanner just wanted out? Kicker Matt Bryant is way past 4 years vested. Bryant will pick & choose where he wants to play. Dorsey can only combine tamper with his agent
.. Guys that fall under 4 years played(6 games/yr.), fall under wavier wire claim system.. Players over 4 yrs. vested, cut their own deals with team of choice or just the amount of money. The Wire falls close or same as the draft order for those under 4 season's vested only.. as of now Cinn.#11/Brns.#17/Pitt #20/Ravens #22..
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somewhere around the start of 2016 and 2017 season I wanted to kick Chris Tabor (or whomever ?) square the ballsacks from a kicker tee
..We worked out K Robbie Gould before Giants & after Giants...The Gould has missed next to nothing in the Bay at 9'ers & Shanny won't return 'My' Text Messages ?
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Doesn't some guy called Phil Dawson have a contract expiring soon also ?
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Zombo said:
Yes, Dawson, Bryant and Jan Stenerud are all available.
Dont think Dorsey cares.
Z
Lou Groza is not...due to death....I believe.
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No thanks. He'll be 44 in May, kicked in a dome in the south. Moving north, kicking outside in some of the toughest winds (if not THE toughest) at his age?
Bring a young guy in to push & compete with Joseph.
Mike
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Zombo said:
Yes, Dawson, Bryant and Jan Stenerud are all available.
Dont think Dorsey cares.
Z
Lou Groza is not...due to death....I believe.
Lou Groza is not...due to death....I believe.
Then cross him off the list then! ?
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Bryant is a top notch kicker, even at 44. He is an upgrade over Joseph, every time Joseph kicks I have serious doubts he will make it. That said he obviously would only be a short term solution. But he is an upgrade over Joseph.
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Bryant is a top notch kicker, even at 44. He is an upgrade over Joseph, every time Joseph kicks I have serious doubts he will make it. That said he obviously would only be a short term solution. But he is an upgrade over Joseph.
Bryant is a top notch kicker, even at 44. He is an upgrade over Joseph, every time Joseph kicks I have serious doubts he will make it. That said he obviously would only be a short term solution. But he is an upgrade over Joseph.
Joseph was a soccer player that's trying to be an NFL kicker...he can, in theory get better. Has a huge leg,hasn't learned to control it yet. In my estimation, I hope it's due to kicking a sphere vs kicking a football his entire life. I'm willing to give him a shot to figure out that difference.
Bryant knows how to kick a football for sure. But he's on the wrong side of age, spoiled with good weather, and already shown significant decline in leg strength.
I don't think its time to start bringing in declining FAs, regardless of position. A declining pass rusher in a playoff push, sure. Now?
As we've seen this season, there's no such thing as an automatic kicker anymore. They moved back the XP, people lose their minds missing an "XP". Hell, stools paid Boswell for last year, and he was one of the worst kickers this year. But they paid him, couldn't cut him.
Bring in competition. Best kicker wins, don't care about the Jersey #
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IMO they should do away with field goals completely. You have one guy that does the punts and kickoffs. Extra points are from scrimmage. 1 point from the 1 yard line. 2 points is from the 5 yard line.
OR
If you must have FG's, then you cannot attempt one unless you reach the 30 yard line. No more 50+ yard FG's.
All in favor say Aye. All opposed remain quiet. - The Ayes have it.
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I'd rather go with a young kid with upside... I'm tired of paying end of the road vets who perform like Devon Bess , Dwayne Bowe and Kenny Shitt..
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