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  • Doesn't some guy called Phil Dawson have a contract expiring soon also ?

  • Doesn't some guy called Phil Dawson have a contract expiring soon also ?

    @darren15 said:

    Doesn't some guy called Phil Dawson have a contract expiring soon also ?

    I believe he finished the year on IR so beyond that i have no idea

  • Yes, Dawson, Bryant and Jan Stenerud are all available.

    Dont think Dorsey cares.

    Z

  • Yes, Dawson, Bryant and Jan Stenerud are all available.

    Dont think Dorsey cares.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    Yes, Dawson, Bryant and Jan Stenerud are all available.

    Dont think Dorsey cares.

    Z

    Lou Groza is not...due to death....I believe.

  • No thanks. He'll be 44 in May, kicked in a dome in the south. Moving north, kicking outside in some of the toughest winds (if not THE toughest) at his age?

    Bring a young guy in to push & compete with Joseph.

    Mike

  • Zombo said:

    Yes, Dawson, Bryant and Jan Stenerud are all available.

    Dont think Dorsey cares.

    Z

    Lou Groza is not...due to death....I believe.

    @the-gipper said:

    Lou Groza is not...due to death....I believe.

    Then cross him off the list then! ?

  • Bryant is a top notch kicker, even at 44. He is an upgrade over Joseph, every time Joseph kicks I have serious doubts he will make it. That said he obviously would only be a short term solution. But he is an upgrade over Joseph.

  • Bryant is a top notch kicker, even at 44. He is an upgrade over Joseph, every time Joseph kicks I have serious doubts he will make it. That said he obviously would only be a short term solution. But he is an upgrade over Joseph.

    @runyon27 said:

    Bryant is a top notch kicker, even at 44. He is an upgrade over Joseph, every time Joseph kicks I have serious doubts he will make it. That said he obviously would only be a short term solution. But he is an upgrade over Joseph.

    Joseph was a soccer player that's trying to be an NFL kicker...he can, in theory get better. Has a huge leg,hasn't learned to control it yet. In my estimation, I hope it's due to kicking a sphere vs kicking a football his entire life. I'm willing to give him a shot to figure out that difference.

    Bryant knows how to kick a football for sure. But he's on the wrong side of age, spoiled with good weather, and already shown significant decline in leg strength.

    I don't think its time to start bringing in declining FAs, regardless of position. A declining pass rusher in a playoff push, sure. Now? 

    As we've seen this season, there's no such thing as an automatic kicker anymore. They moved back the XP, people lose their minds missing an "XP".  Hell, stools paid Boswell for last year, and he was one of the worst kickers this year. But they paid him, couldn't cut him.

    Bring in competition. Best kicker wins, don't care about the Jersey #

  • IMO they should do away with field goals completely.  You have one guy that does the punts and kickoffs.  Extra points are from scrimmage.  1 point from the 1 yard line.  2 points is from the 5 yard line.

    OR

    If you must have FG's, then you cannot attempt one unless you reach the 30 yard line.  No more 50+ yard FG's.

    All in favor say Aye.   All opposed remain quiet.  -  The Ayes have it.

  • I'd rather go with a young kid with upside... I'm tired of paying end of the road vets who perform like Devon Bess , Dwayne Bowe and Kenny Shitt..

  • I'd rather go with a young kid with upside... I'm tired of paying end of the road vets who perform like Devon Bess , Dwayne Bowe and Kenny Shitt..

    @nickers said:

    I'd rather go with a young kid with upside... I'm tired of paying end of the road vets who perform like Devon Bess , Dwayne Bowe and Kenny Shitt..

    I agree with you with the exception of kickers.  I think I'd rather pay for someone reliable then hoping that the young kid gets better.  

  • Doesn't some guy called Phil Dawson have a contract expiring soon also ?

    @darren15 said:

    Doesn't some guy called Phil Dawson have a contract expiring soon also ?

    Dawson is even older.... 🙂

  • IMO they should do away with field goals completely.  You have one guy that does the punts and kickoffs.  Extra points are from scrimmage.  1 point from the 1 yard line.  2 points is from the 5 yard line.

    OR

    If you must have FG's, then you cannot attempt one unless you reach the 30 yard line.  No more 50+ yard FG's.

    All in favor say Aye.   All opposed remain quiet.  -  The Ayes have it.

    @orion said:

    IMO they should do away with field goals completely.  You have one guy that does the punts and kickoffs.  Extra points are from scrimmage.  1 point from the 1 yard line.  2 points is from the 5 yard line.

    OR

    If you must have FG's, then you cannot attempt one unless you reach the 30 yard line.  No more 50+ yard FG's.

    All in favor say Aye.   All opposed remain quiet.  -  The Ayes have it.

    NAY!!! The NFL has changed the rules, as players have gotten better. Not so the NBA. They should have raised the basket height to at least 11' long ago. Some guys can about dunk without even having to jump.

    Can't move the goal posts back any farther (us oldsters remember when they were on the goal line) so make 'em Arena League wide instead. Think that might make more teams go for two after a touchdown instead?

  • @orion said:

    IMO they should do away with field goals completely.  You have one guy that does the punts and kickoffs.  Extra points are from scrimmage.  1 point from the 1 yard line.  2 points is from the 5 yard line.

    OR

    If you must have FG's, then you cannot attempt one unless you reach the 30 yard line.  No more 50+ yard FG's.

    All in favor say Aye.   All opposed remain quiet.  -  The Ayes have it.

    NAY!!! The NFL has changed the rules, as players have gotten better. Not so the NBA. They should have raised the basket height to at least 11' long ago. Some guys can about dunk without even having to jump.

    Can't move the goal posts back any farther (us oldsters remember when they were on the goal line) so make 'em Arena League wide instead. Think that might make more teams go for two after a touchdown instead?

    @hoorta said:

    so make 'em Arena League wide instead. Think that might make more teams go for two after a touchdown instead?

    I thought they might have done that, but instead they moved the extra point back farther.  -  It would also make you go for the first down in windy conditions.  

  • Letting vallejo go was a mistake imo, but it prob points to collins and kirk goung nowhere. Theres a reason he got picked up instantaneously by the cards, he'll prob be a starting ilb'er for them next year as i think they're going back to the 34 following wilks departure

  • Letting vallejo go was a mistake imo, but it prob points to collins and kirk goung nowhere. Theres a reason he got picked up instantaneously by the cards, he'll prob be a starting ilb'er for them next year as i think they're going back to the 34 following wilks departure

    @clevfan4life said:

    Theres a reason he got picked up instantaneously by the cards, he'll prob be a starting ilb'er for them next year as i think they're going back to the 34 following wilks departure

    or Zona's next Scooby Wright to play ST's😉..Tanner is listed as the 3rd Sam LB behind Haason Reddick.so am not seeing him starting there, but Zona certainly needs LB talent, and Zona,Jets,NYG,Cinn,Minn & LAC's all put a bid in also..While i got you, who was the Mich.St DE/LB that motored up against the Buckeyes last season? Did he come out for this draft? EDit--BTW Scooby Wright is now playing for the Arizona Hotshots in new AAF league starting up this weekend.. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Lou Groza is not...due to death....I believe.

    Then cross him off the list then! ?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Then cross him off the list then! ?

    ........from the grestest sports movie of all time.

  • @orion said:

    IMO they should do away with field goals completely.  You have one guy that does the punts and kickoffs.  Extra points are from scrimmage.  1 point from the 1 yard line.  2 points is from the 5 yard line.

    OR

    If you must have FG's, then you cannot attempt one unless you reach the 30 yard line.  No more 50+ yard FG's.

    All in favor say Aye.   All opposed remain quiet.  -  The Ayes have it.

    NAY!!! The NFL has changed the rules, as players have gotten better. Not so the NBA. They should have raised the basket height to at least 11' long ago. Some guys can about dunk without even having to jump.

    Can't move the goal posts back any farther (us oldsters remember when they were on the goal line) so make 'em Arena League wide instead. Think that might make more teams go for two after a touchdown instead?

    @hoorta said:

    NAY!!! The NFL has changed the rules, as players have gotten better. Not so the NBA. They should have raised the basket height to at least 11' long ago. Some guys can about dunk without even having to jump.

    Can't move the goal posts back any farther (us oldsters remember when they were on the goal line) so make 'em Arena League wide instead. Think that might make more teams go for two after a touchdown instead?

    Larry, I LOL at the memory of receivers crashing into the goalposts. It took brass balls to run a post pattern!...Gary Collins' signature play!!

    Mike

  • Letting vallejo go was a mistake imo, but it prob points to collins and kirk goung nowhere. Theres a reason he got picked up instantaneously by the cards, he'll prob be a starting ilb'er for them next year as i think they're going back to the 34 following wilks departure

    @clevfan4life said:

    Letting vallejo go was a mistake imo, but it prob points to collins and kirk going nowhere. There's a reason he got picked up instantaneously by the cards, he'll prob be a starting ilb'er for them next year as i think they're going back to the 34 following wilks departure

    Regarding Vallejo- The Cards are a talentless mess... You know you're improving as a team when your cuts start getting picked up by the bottom feeders... 

    Regarding Collins... I still think it's mighty likely Collins either gets traded or cut. We only take a $2.5 million cap hit to release him. We sure aren't paying him $12 million his contract calls for this year for below average production... Now if he's willing to take a substantial pay cut- different story....  

  • @darren15 said:

    Doesn't some guy called Phil Dawson have a contract expiring soon also ?

    Dawson is even older.... 🙂

    @hoorta said:

    Dawson is even older.... 🙂

    If we hired people based on how young they are we may as well of kept Zane Gonzales