Vernon traded to Browns In Exchange For Kevin Zeitler
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I thought we were supposed to get OBJ for Zeitler?
Instead, we get V.O.
EERRRR wait.....did we get Vernon Olivier? Or Olivier Vernon.
Did we have Cameron Jordan, or Jordan Cameron?
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I thought we were supposed to get OBJ for Zeitler?
Instead, we get V.O.
EERRRR wait.....did we get Vernon Olivier? Or Olivier Vernon.
Did we have Cameron Jordan, or Jordan Cameron?
I thought we were supposed to get OBJ for Zeitler?
Instead, we get V.O.
Well it was going to be Zeitler a 1st round pick in 2020 a 3rd round pick and a 4th round pick this year and Ogbah apparently for OBJ
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Zietler and Bito pair to form one of the best pass pro interiors in the NFL.
Vernon is on the downside of his career.
Not feeling this.
depending on one's opinion of PFF...
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-giants-browns-both-win-in-blockbuster-vernon-zeitler-trade
still productive regardless of where his is in his career arc
depending on one's opinion of PFF...
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-giants-browns-both-win-in-blockbuster-vernon-zeitler-trade
still productive regardless of where his is in his career arc
I think highly of Vernon and knew he would be good when NY picked him up.
However I don't like messing with the line cohesion for a young QB. That said, identify who we want there now and that will help to ease my mind.
Pass rush just got a lot better.
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OK, but, can this Olivier play Hamlet?
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$71m left if cap space after the trade I read somewhere, maybe we go for Mosely next. Things seem to be hotting up
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Where does he play?
DT
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I would've kept Zeitler for continuity alone, but i guess dorsey figures zeitler would eventually leave us.
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Last seasons top edge rushers .....Vernon played 11 games
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depending on one's opinion of PFF...
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-giants-browns-both-win-in-blockbuster-vernon-zeitler-trade
still productive regardless of where his is in his career arc
I think highly of Vernon and knew he would be good when NY picked him up.
However I don't like messing with the line cohesion for a young QB. That said, identify who we want there now and that will help to ease my mind.
Pass rush just got a lot better.
I think highly of Vernon and knew he would be good when NY picked him up.
However I don't like messing with the line cohesion for a young QB. That said, identify who we want there now and that will help to ease my mind.
Pass rush just got a lot better.
That was my firsts reaction...the iOL certainly dictated the offense, and was great by most measures. But that was an awful lot of money to have tied up in OG. Question will be if Corbett is at replacement level, and looks like buddy boy has pushed in those chips (kinda explains the headscratcher of the pick at the time). Knew he had too much salary in guards, and prepped a replacement for one of them.
Salary being almost a wash, pash rush has been upgraded and improved draft position at the cost of perceived OL continuity/regression, which redistributing salary to the appropriate positions. While it's easy to worry about Corbett, I'll save my hand ringing for TC when we can see how things are meshing.
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I think highly of Vernon and knew he would be good when NY picked him up.
However I don't like messing with the line cohesion for a young QB. That said, identify who we want there now and that will help to ease my mind.
Pass rush just got a lot better.
That was my firsts reaction...the iOL certainly dictated the offense, and was great by most measures. But that was an awful lot of money to have tied up in OG. Question will be if Corbett is at replacement level, and looks like buddy boy has pushed in those chips (kinda explains the headscratcher of the pick at the time). Knew he had too much salary in guards, and prepped a replacement for one of them.
Salary being almost a wash, pash rush has been upgraded and improved draft position at the cost of perceived OL continuity/regression, which redistributing salary to the appropriate positions. While it's easy to worry about Corbett, I'll save my hand ringing for TC when we can see how things are meshing.
That was my firsts reaction...the iOL certainly dictated the offense, and was great by most measures. But that was an awful lot of money to have tied up in OG. Question will be if Corbett is at replacement level, and looks like buddy boy has pushed in those chips (kinda explains the headscratcher of the pick at the time). Knew he had too much salary in guards, and prepped a replacement for one of them.
Salary being almost a wash, pash rush has been upgraded and improved draft position at the cost of perceived OL continuity/regression, which redistributing salary to the appropriate positions. While it's easy to worry about Corbett, I'll save my hand ringing for TC when we can see how things are meshing.
And, as many have said, who is to say that they won't pick up an OG here. There are a few out there in FA: Saffold was mentioned. Age 31 Jamon Brown (formerly of Giants) age 27. AJ Cann of Jags also 27
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This was our big move to help shore up the LDE spot? a 28 yr old going on his 3rd contract? I wanna hear that Ansah and Flowers were approached but either didn't want to come to Clev or wanted too much. And yeah, giving up an OL just when our OL started to gel? another head scratcher.
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Am l crazy for thinking Watford was a decent guard? I know we didn’t see him much during the regular season but he got in a few packages as an extra blocker.
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Am l crazy for thinking Watford was a decent guard? I know we didn’t see him much during the regular season but he got in a few packages as an extra blocker.
Am l crazy for thinking Watford was a decent guard? I know we didn’t see him much during the regular season but he got in a few packages as an extra blocker.
You probably are crazy.....for thinking that, and for many other reasons
But, who knows, you may be right.
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So Moving Zeitler was right, hate to see him leave, great in pass pro. Wrong player though. Knew the Giants wouldn't move OBJ for anything less than a team offering a crackhead deal. Corbett has some big shoes to fill at guard, he better be ready.
So Moving Zeitler was right, hate to see him leave, great in pass pro. Wrong player though. Knew the Giants wouldn't move OBJ for anything less than a team offering a crackhead deal. Corbett has some big shoes to fill at guard, he better be ready.
I imagine there will be a guard drafted as well and it looks good for guards this year.
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Vernon is one twitchy ass mofo. That being said, every single snap is from the RDE spot in 2019. I hope that's just the way it happened and that he's not like Forest Gumpy out there on the other side. Cause Garrett is like half the edge rusher from the LDE spot. There's just some dudes who HAVE to come off one side or the other, they are not "ambidextrous".
But if Vernon can give us that level of productivity, im ok with the trade. Especially since we have depth there with Smith and Avery.
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