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Good teams overcome bad calls...
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Boo hoo. The Browns got shafted by a mile offside against the Chargers no call that gave them a gift TD, a lousy spot against the Raiders that prevented us running out the clock, and a head shot to Baker aginst the Bucs that wasn't called.
You however got a gift from the Refs that the league apologized for when Garrett tackled Saint Ben, in case you forgot.
We'll see how Ju-Ju does this year when he's drawing double teams, and your #2 wr is Shazier?
I think for that first one you meant the Ravens, not the Chargers. (which made the difference in the game).
So, in essence, the refs indeed screwed the Steelers out of a playoff berth. If not for that bad call, the Browns win that last game....and the Spermsuckers win the division and the Ratfuckers stay home.
I think for that first one you meant the Ravens, not the Chargers. (which made the difference in the game).
So, in essence, the refs indeed screwed the Steelers out of a playoff berth. If not for that bad call, the Browns win that last game....and the Spermsuckers win the division and the Ratfuckers stay home.
Chargers and saints. The ravens/browns game was a shit show too.
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I think for that first one you meant the Ravens, not the Chargers. (which made the difference in the game).
So, in essence, the refs indeed screwed the Steelers out of a playoff berth. If not for that bad call, the Browns win that last game....and the Spermsuckers win the division and the Ratfuckers stay home.
Yeah that one too... NFLN replayed the game, and I have it on DVR- I'll watch it again when I have some time.
Nope, my memory is fine, sorry it was a false start, not an offside- and it got the Ref who missed it fired... It was so flagrant, the Browns quit on the play, waiting for the whistle that never came...
Yeah that one too... NFLN replayed the game, and I have it on DVR- I'll watch it again when I have some time.
Nope, my memory is fine, sorry it was a false start, not an offside- and it got the Ref who missed it fired... It was so flagrant, the Browns quit on the play, waiting for the whistle that never came...
I guess because that game was pretty much a blowout it didn't make that much of a difference....unlike Oakland and Baltimore games.
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I think for that first one you meant the Ravens, not the Chargers. (which made the difference in the game).
So, in essence, the refs indeed screwed the Steelers out of a playoff berth. If not for that bad call, the Browns win that last game....and the Spermsuckers win the division and the Ratfuckers stay home.
Chargers and saints. The ravens/browns game was a shit show too.
Chargers and saints. The ravens/browns game was a shit show too.
Again, no sympathy for you. None whatsoever, going all the way back.
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Again, no sympathy for you. None whatsoever, going all the way back.
I remember that game.. we had to play the fucking refs too.. Just watching this makes my blood boil...Everyone of those calls was completely fabricated and bogus... Good or bad teams can't overcome made up calls...
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Again, no sympathy for you. None whatsoever, going all the way back.
I remember that game.. we had to play the fucking refs too.. Just watching this makes my blood boil...Everyone of those calls was completely fabricated and bogus... Good or bad teams can't overcome made up calls...
I remember that game.. we had to play the fucking refs too.. Just watching this makes my blood boil...Everyone of those calls was completely fabricated and bogus... Good or bad teams can't overcome made up calls...
Two TDs overturned on phantom holding calls. And the fumble in OT "blown dead"? If ever a game was fixed.
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I remember that game.. we had to play the fucking refs too.. Just watching this makes my blood boil...Everyone of those calls was completely fabricated and bogus... Good or bad teams can't overcome made up calls...
Two TDs overturned on phantom holding calls. And the fumble in OT "blown dead"? If ever a game was fixed.
Two TDs overturned on phantom holding calls. And the fumble in OT "blown dead"? If ever a game was fixed.
It'll be interesting with all of the star power we have now , how the calls will shake out.. Especially now everyone acknowledges that were "Americas Team".. We always have been Americas team.. We just sucked for the last 1/4 century.... There is no other team with the world wide backers clubs like the Browns do.. And please.. I don't need some idiot saying.. "Steelers fans travel well".. My cousin darren was born here and raised in the dakotas and now lives in the seattle area.. Sadly.. He is a Stooler FRAK.. And I let him know it!
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Two TDs overturned on phantom holding calls. And the fumble in OT "blown dead"? If ever a game was fixed.
It'll be interesting with all of the star power we have now , how the calls will shake out.. Especially now everyone acknowledges that were "Americas Team".. We always have been Americas team.. We just sucked for the last 1/4 century.... There is no other team with the world wide backers clubs like the Browns do.. And please.. I don't need some idiot saying.. "Steelers fans travel well".. My cousin darren was born here and raised in the dakotas and now lives in the seattle area.. Sadly.. He is a Stooler FRAK.. And I let him know it!
It'll be interesting with all of the star power we have now , how the calls will shake out.. Especially now everyone acknowledges that were "Americas Team".. We always have been Americas team.. We just sucked for the last 1/4 century.... There is no other team with the world wide backers clubs like the Browns do.. And please.. I don't need some idiot saying.. "Steelers fans travel well".. My cousin darren was born here and raised in the dakotas and now lives in the seattle area.. Sadly.. He is a Stooler FRAK.. And I let him know it!
Actually the steelers turned down the whole america's team mantra and then it became the Cowboys.
And you are going to hear about the steelers traveling well because when the steel industry collapsed families were displaced for work reasons and the steelers had just come off four super bowl wins. The Fandom went with those families all over the country.
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It'll be interesting with all of the star power we have now , how the calls will shake out.. Especially now everyone acknowledges that were "Americas Team".. We always have been Americas team.. We just sucked for the last 1/4 century.... There is no other team with the world wide backers clubs like the Browns do.. And please.. I don't need some idiot saying.. "Steelers fans travel well".. My cousin darren was born here and raised in the dakotas and now lives in the seattle area.. Sadly.. He is a Stooler FRAK.. And I let him know it!
Actually the steelers turned down the whole america's team mantra and then it became the Cowboys.
And you are going to hear about the steelers traveling well because when the steel industry collapsed families were displaced for work reasons and the steelers had just come off four super bowl wins. The Fandom went with those families all over the country.
Actually the steelers turned down the whole america's team mantra and then it became the Cowboys.
And you are going to hear about the steelers traveling well because when the steel industry collapsed families were displaced for work reasons and the steelers had just come off four super bowl wins. The Fandom went with those families all over the country.
Whatevs.. More bullshit spewing from your mouth as usual..
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It'll be interesting with all of the star power we have now , how the calls will shake out.. Especially now everyone acknowledges that were "Americas Team".. We always have been Americas team.. We just sucked for the last 1/4 century.... There is no other team with the world wide backers clubs like the Browns do.. And please.. I don't need some idiot saying.. "Steelers fans travel well".. My cousin darren was born here and raised in the dakotas and now lives in the seattle area.. Sadly.. He is a Stooler FRAK.. And I let him know it!
Actually the steelers turned down the whole america's team mantra and then it became the Cowboys.
And you are going to hear about the steelers traveling well because when the steel industry collapsed families were displaced for work reasons and the steelers had just come off four super bowl wins. The Fandom went with those families all over the country.
Actually the steelers turned down the whole america's team mantra and then it became the Cowboys.
And you are going to hear about the steelers traveling well because when the steel industry collapsed families were displaced for work reasons and the steelers had just come off four super bowl wins. The Fandom went with those families all over the country.
Yes, to an extent. The same was true for the Browns during the 80s. (manufacturing economy collapse..thanks Reagan). Browns fan dominated many away games. But when you have 25 years of suck....that trailed off a bit.
If the Browns do get back to a position of dominance, it could be like nothing you have seen before.
And I always hated the whole America's Team label. I never want to see that use with the Browns.
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Actually the steelers turned down the whole america's team mantra and then it became the Cowboys.
And you are going to hear about the steelers traveling well because when the steel industry collapsed families were displaced for work reasons and the steelers had just come off four super bowl wins. The Fandom went with those families all over the country.
Whatevs.. More bullshit spewing from your mouth as usual..
Whatevs.. More bullshit spewing from your mouth as usual..
No, he is right. A lot of that did in fact happen....and as I said, the same with Cleveland are people being disbursed.
The Steelers did get a lot more FRAKs to jump on board....because they won. But they will likely quickly jump off if the Steelers go bad. And if the Browns go good there will certainly be a share of FRAKs on our bandwagon.
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Whatevs.. More bullshit spewing from your mouth as usual..
No, he is right. A lot of that did in fact happen....and as I said, the same with Cleveland are people being disbursed.
The Steelers did get a lot more FRAKs to jump on board....because they won. But they will likely quickly jump off if the Steelers go bad. And if the Browns go good there will certainly be a share of FRAKs on our bandwagon.
No, he is right. A lot of that did in fact happen....and as I said, the same with Cleveland are people being disbursed.
The Steelers did get a lot more FRAKs to jump on board....because they won. But they will likely quickly jump off if the Steelers go bad. And if the Browns go good there will certainly be a share of FRAKs on our bandwagon.
I don't see how families being displaced has any bearing on Fandom.. You're a fan.. Or you're not... Frak or no Frak..
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No, he is right. A lot of that did in fact happen....and as I said, the same with Cleveland are people being disbursed.
The Steelers did get a lot more FRAKs to jump on board....because they won. But they will likely quickly jump off if the Steelers go bad. And if the Browns go good there will certainly be a share of FRAKs on our bandwagon.
I don't see how families being displaced has any bearing on Fandom.. You're a fan.. Or you're not... Frak or no Frak..
I don't see how families being displaced has any bearing on Fandom.. You're a fan.. Or you're not... Frak or no Frak..
I guess you are not getting it. There are/were a lot of Browns..and Steelers fans in a lot of other parts of this country because a lot of people had to move out of this area because all those so called "Rust Belt" jobs dried up in these parts. Maybe you are too young to remember things.
Just in little old Barberton here alone, PPG went from 1500 to 150 jobs. Seiberling rubber shut down after having @1000 employees, same with Rockwell, same with Ohio Brass. B&W underwent drastic cuts. This all happened in the late 70s and early 80s.
Why did it happen? A. The oil crisis B. Companies wanting to fuck the unions and send the jobs to the south...or overseas where people would work dirt cheap and the fat cats could pocket more of the money (just look at the stats of how CEO compensation rose from like 25 times the average worker salary to 500 times) C. Technology certainly. And others
Steeler mills closed down. Auto manufacturing closed down. etc. etc. People had to go to Houston to find a job in the oil fields. The sweat belt found the miracle of air conditioning.
Here were the 10 most populous cities in the US in 1960:
US Population
RankCity State 1960 Population 1 New York New York 7,781,984 2 Chicago Illinois 3,550,404 3 Los Angeles California 2,479,015 4 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 2,002,512 5 Detroit Michigan 1,670,144 6 Baltimore Maryland 939,024 7 Houston Texas 938,219 8 Cleveland Ohio 876,050 9 Washington District of Columbia 763,956 10 St. Louis Missouri 750,026 11 Milwaukee Wisconsin 741,324
Pittsburg was #16
So, there was a "diaspora of people moving out of the midwest.
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I don't see how families being displaced has any bearing on Fandom.. You're a fan.. Or you're not... Frak or no Frak..
I guess you are not getting it. There are/were a lot of Browns..and Steelers fans in a lot of other parts of this country because a lot of people had to move out of this area because all those so called "Rust Belt" jobs dried up in these parts. Maybe you are too young to remember things.
Just in little old Barberton here alone, PPG went from 1500 to 150 jobs. Seiberling rubber shut down after having @1000 employees, same with Rockwell, same with Ohio Brass. B&W underwent drastic cuts. This all happened in the late 70s and early 80s.
Why did it happen? A. The oil crisis B. Companies wanting to fuck the unions and send the jobs to the south...or overseas where people would work dirt cheap and the fat cats could pocket more of the money (just look at the stats of how CEO compensation rose from like 25 times the average worker salary to 500 times) C. Technology certainly. And others
Steeler mills closed down. Auto manufacturing closed down. etc. etc. People had to go to Houston to find a job in the oil fields. The sweat belt found the miracle of air conditioning.
Here were the 10 most populous cities in the US in 1960:
US Population
RankCity State 1960 Population 1 New York New York 7,781,984 2 Chicago Illinois 3,550,404 3 Los Angeles California 2,479,015 4 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 2,002,512 5 Detroit Michigan 1,670,144 6 Baltimore Maryland 939,024 7 Houston Texas 938,219 8 Cleveland Ohio 876,050 9 Washington District of Columbia 763,956 10 St. Louis Missouri 750,026 11 Milwaukee Wisconsin 741,324
Pittsburg was #16
So, there was a "diaspora of people moving out of the midwest.
Today, you won't see half of these cities now in the top 10-12.I guess you are not getting it. There are/were a lot of Browns..and Steelers fans in a lot of other parts of this country because a lot of people had to move out of this area because all those so called "Rust Belt" jobs dried up in these parts. Maybe you are too young to remember things.
Just in little old Barberton here alone, PPG went from 1500 to 150 jobs. Seiberling rubber shut down after having @1000 employees, same with Rockwell, same with Ohio Brass. B&W underwent drastic cuts. This all happened in the late 70s and early 80s.
Why did it happen? A. The oil crisis B. Companies wanting to fuck the unions and send the jobs to the south...or overseas where people would work dirt cheap and the fat cats could pocket more of the money (just look at the stats of how CEO compensation rose from like 25 times the average worker salary to 500 times) C. Technology certainly. And others
Steeler mills closed down. Auto manufacturing closed down. etc. etc. People had to go to Houston to find a job in the oil fields. The sweat belt found the miracle of air conditioning.
Here were the 10 most populous cities in the US in 1960:
US Population
RankCity State 1960 Population 1 New York New York 7,781,984 2 Chicago Illinois 3,550,404 3 Los Angeles California 2,479,015 4 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 2,002,512 5 Detroit Michigan 1,670,144 6 Baltimore Maryland 939,024 7 Houston Texas 938,219 8 Cleveland Ohio 876,050 9 Washington District of Columbia 763,956 10 St. Louis Missouri 750,026 11 Milwaukee Wisconsin 741,324
Pittsburg was #16
So, there was a "diaspora of people moving out of the midwest.
Today, you won't see half of these cities now in the top 10-12.I really don't care.. I'm more concerned about what's in front of as a team and a season...
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I guess you are not getting it. There are/were a lot of Browns..and Steelers fans in a lot of other parts of this country because a lot of people had to move out of this area because all those so called "Rust Belt" jobs dried up in these parts. Maybe you are too young to remember things.
Just in little old Barberton here alone, PPG went from 1500 to 150 jobs. Seiberling rubber shut down after having @1000 employees, same with Rockwell, same with Ohio Brass. B&W underwent drastic cuts. This all happened in the late 70s and early 80s.
Why did it happen? A. The oil crisis B. Companies wanting to fuck the unions and send the jobs to the south...or overseas where people would work dirt cheap and the fat cats could pocket more of the money (just look at the stats of how CEO compensation rose from like 25 times the average worker salary to 500 times) C. Technology certainly. And others
Steeler mills closed down. Auto manufacturing closed down. etc. etc. People had to go to Houston to find a job in the oil fields. The sweat belt found the miracle of air conditioning.
Here were the 10 most populous cities in the US in 1960:
US Population
RankCity State 1960 Population 1 New York New York 7,781,984 2 Chicago Illinois 3,550,404 3 Los Angeles California 2,479,015 4 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 2,002,512 5 Detroit Michigan 1,670,144 6 Baltimore Maryland 939,024 7 Houston Texas 938,219 8 Cleveland Ohio 876,050 9 Washington District of Columbia 763,956 10 St. Louis Missouri 750,026 11 Milwaukee Wisconsin 741,324
Pittsburg was #16
So, there was a "diaspora of people moving out of the midwest.
Today, you won't see half of these cities now in the top 10-12.I really don't care.. I'm more concerned about what's in front of as a team and a season...
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I don't see how families being displaced has any bearing on Fandom.. You're a fan.. Or you're not... Frak or no Frak..
I guess you are not getting it. There are/were a lot of Browns..and Steelers fans in a lot of other parts of this country because a lot of people had to move out of this area because all those so called "Rust Belt" jobs dried up in these parts. Maybe you are too young to remember things.
Just in little old Barberton here alone, PPG went from 1500 to 150 jobs. Seiberling rubber shut down after having @1000 employees, same with Rockwell, same with Ohio Brass. B&W underwent drastic cuts. This all happened in the late 70s and early 80s.
Why did it happen? A. The oil crisis B. Companies wanting to fuck the unions and send the jobs to the south...or overseas where people would work dirt cheap and the fat cats could pocket more of the money (just look at the stats of how CEO compensation rose from like 25 times the average worker salary to 500 times) C. Technology certainly. And others
Steeler mills closed down. Auto manufacturing closed down. etc. etc. People had to go to Houston to find a job in the oil fields. The sweat belt found the miracle of air conditioning.
Here were the 10 most populous cities in the US in 1960:
US Population
RankCity State 1960 Population 1 New York New York 7,781,984 2 Chicago Illinois 3,550,404 3 Los Angeles California 2,479,015 4 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 2,002,512 5 Detroit Michigan 1,670,144 6 Baltimore Maryland 939,024 7 Houston Texas 938,219 8 Cleveland Ohio 876,050 9 Washington District of Columbia 763,956 10 St. Louis Missouri 750,026 11 Milwaukee Wisconsin 741,324
Pittsburg was #16
So, there was a "diaspora of people moving out of the midwest.
Today, you won't see half of these cities now in the top 10-12.I guess you are not getting it. There are/were a lot of Browns..and Steelers fans in a lot of other parts of this country because a lot of people had to move out of this area because all those so called "Rust Belt" jobs dried up in these parts. Maybe you are too young to remember things.
Just in little old Barberton here alone, PPG went from 1500 to 150 jobs. Seiberling rubber shut down after having @1000 employees, same with Rockwell, same with Ohio Brass. B&W underwent drastic cuts. This all happened in the late 70s and early 80s.
Why did it happen? A. The oil crisis B. Companies wanting to fuck the unions and send the jobs to the south...or overseas where people would work dirt cheap and the fat cats could pocket more of the money (just look at the stats of how CEO compensation rose from like 25 times the average worker salary to 500 times) C. Technology certainly. And others
Steeler mills closed down. Auto manufacturing closed down. etc. etc. People had to go to Houston to find a job in the oil fields. The sweat belt found the miracle of air conditioning.
Here were the 10 most populous cities in the US in 1960:
US Population
RankCity State 1960 Population 1 New York New York 7,781,984 2 Chicago Illinois 3,550,404 3 Los Angeles California 2,479,015 4 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 2,002,512 5 Detroit Michigan 1,670,144 6 Baltimore Maryland 939,024 7 Houston Texas 938,219 8 Cleveland Ohio 876,050 9 Washington District of Columbia 763,956 10 St. Louis Missouri 750,026 11 Milwaukee Wisconsin 741,324
Pittsburg was #16
So, there was a "diaspora of people moving out of the midwest.
Today, you won't see half of these cities now in the top 10-12.You won't even see them in the top 25. Cleveland all the way down to #52. http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/
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I think for that first one you meant the Ravens, not the Chargers. (which made the difference in the game).
So, in essence, the refs indeed screwed the Steelers out of a playoff berth. If not for that bad call, the Browns win that last game....and the Spermsuckers win the division and the Ratfuckers stay home.
Chargers and saints. The ravens/browns game was a shit show too.
Chargers and saints. The ravens/browns game was a shit show too.
The Ravens/Browns game the Oakland/Browns game the Tampa Bay/Browns game the Chargers/Browns game the Steelers/Browns game. Do not complain about bad calls, every team gets them. Just the Oakland game and the Tampa game, which those calls were on what would have been the last drive of the game if our field goal kicker hits a chip shot against Tampa Bay, would have had the Browns with the best record in the AFC North. However had the Browns won the Oakland game maybe Hue Jackson doesn't get fired when he does so maybe the season doesn't play out the same way. My point isn't to gripe and say Browns would have been in the playoffs if not for bad calls. My point is there bad calls all throughout the NFL so you shouldn't bitch.
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I guess you are not getting it. There are/were a lot of Browns..and Steelers fans in a lot of other parts of this country because a lot of people had to move out of this area because all those so called "Rust Belt" jobs dried up in these parts. Maybe you are too young to remember things.
Just in little old Barberton here alone, PPG went from 1500 to 150 jobs. Seiberling rubber shut down after having @1000 employees, same with Rockwell, same with Ohio Brass. B&W underwent drastic cuts. This all happened in the late 70s and early 80s.
Why did it happen? A. The oil crisis B. Companies wanting to fuck the unions and send the jobs to the south...or overseas where people would work dirt cheap and the fat cats could pocket more of the money (just look at the stats of how CEO compensation rose from like 25 times the average worker salary to 500 times) C. Technology certainly. And others
Steeler mills closed down. Auto manufacturing closed down. etc. etc. People had to go to Houston to find a job in the oil fields. The sweat belt found the miracle of air conditioning.
Here were the 10 most populous cities in the US in 1960:
US Population
RankCity State 1960 Population 1 New York New York 7,781,984 2 Chicago Illinois 3,550,404 3 Los Angeles California 2,479,015 4 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 2,002,512 5 Detroit Michigan 1,670,144 6 Baltimore Maryland 939,024 7 Houston Texas 938,219 8 Cleveland Ohio 876,050 9 Washington District of Columbia 763,956 10 St. Louis Missouri 750,026 11 Milwaukee Wisconsin 741,324
Pittsburg was #16
So, there was a "diaspora of people moving out of the midwest.
Today, you won't see half of these cities now in the top 10-12.You won't even see them in the top 25. Cleveland all the way down to #52. http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/
You won't even see them in the top 25. Cleveland all the way down to #52. http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/
Kind crazy Cleveland was that large. I suspect some of that is new suburbs popping up and making the city smaller.
No wonder traffic is so good there. At least compared to anywhere in Socal.
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