Dem state lawmaker records himself harassing pro-life woman outside Planned Parenthood
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I remember seeing a show on television many years ago where they had a number of young people who were born from mothers who had been raped and they didn't abort them. They were now young adults and were in school to be doctors, nurses, lawyers etc...some were excited about marriage and having their own families. They all had dreams and goals in life. They were some amazing young people whose mothers who had been raped gave them the gift of life.
Fantastic, success is possible and nobody is doubting that. My argument is that the mother should still retain the legal right to not have to carry that baby. She didn't choose to be raped. Bottom line. Anything else and you're simply saying your God is the state and they should have complete say over your body.
Dems = Repubs. Same coin just a different face.
Fantastic, success is possible and nobody is doubting that. My argument is that the mother should still retain the legal right to not have to carry that baby. She didn't choose to be raped. Bottom line. Anything else and you're simply saying your God is the state and they should have complete say over your body.
Dems = Repubs. Same coin just a different face.
These cases are difficult and fortunately not the norm but let me ask you about cases that are not so difficult. Should a woman be allowed to have an abortion right up to time of delivery as New York and other states have done? Should a woman be allowed an abortion because the sex of the child is not what she preferred? Should a baby born alive after an attempted abortion be killed? The demonRats who always try to hide from the public what they really believe said at first after Roe they wanted abortions to be safe, legal and rare but they never meant that rare part.
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And you would murder an innocent child for the crimes of his father.
and u would force a woman, or girl in this case, to go through 9 months of despair with an operating table at the end, because of her fathers crime. Ur scum. This not the "procreation" jesus hsd in mind. This is the pure filth of swine. No more no less.
and u would force a woman, or girl in this case, to go through 9 months of despair with an operating table at the end, because of her fathers crime. Ur scum. This not the "procreation" jesus hsd in mind. This is the pure filth of swine. No more no less.
So being pregnant is despair. A woman’s body doing what it was designed to do it despair?
Crime is heinous. Victims of crime cannot always be made whole. It’s an unfortunate fact of life. The innocent do not need to be killed because of someone else’s crime.
Don’t speak for Jesus. It’s clear you know nothing about his life or teachings.
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The question which I posed was never about any Individual poster here, it was never about religion, it was never about the crime or the grim prospect of carrying an unwanted child to birth.
the question never changed.
The question which I posed was never about any Individual poster here, it was never about religion, it was never about the crime or the grim prospect of carrying an unwanted child to birth.
the question never changed.
If the raped kid doesn't want to carry the baby, they shouldn't have to. Simple enough for you to grasp. I don't think the kid will know what it missed.
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and u would force a woman, or girl in this case, to go through 9 months of despair with an operating table at the end, because of her fathers crime. Ur scum. This not the "procreation" jesus hsd in mind. This is the pure filth of swine. No more no less.
So being pregnant is despair. A woman’s body doing what it was designed to do it despair?
Crime is heinous. Victims of crime cannot always be made whole. It’s an unfortunate fact of life. The innocent do not need to be killed because of someone else’s crime.
Don’t speak for Jesus. It’s clear you know nothing about his life or teachings.
So being pregnant is despair. A woman’s body doing what it was designed to do it despair?
Crime is heinous. Victims of crime cannot always be made whole. It’s an unfortunate fact of life. The innocent do not need to be killed because of someone else’s crime.
Don’t speak for Jesus. It’s clear you know nothing about his life or teachings.
I like telling other people what to do as well.
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So being pregnant is despair. A woman’s body doing what it was designed to do it despair?
Crime is heinous. Victims of crime cannot always be made whole. It’s an unfortunate fact of life. The innocent do not need to be killed because of someone else’s crime.
Don’t speak for Jesus. It’s clear you know nothing about his life or teachings.
I like telling other people what to do as well.
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Face it, we all do.
WSS
Not all of us. I like mocking hypocrisy but hypocrites can live however they wish. I am not implying you are one but that we have a lot of people who complain about having others and the government having too much say in their lives then actively choose to try to exert their social values on everyone else. That is why I think both parties are full of shit including the people who treat politicians like they are heroes.
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The question which I posed was never about any Individual poster here, it was never about religion, it was never about the crime or the grim prospect of carrying an unwanted child to birth.
the question never changed.
If the raped kid doesn't want to carry the baby, they shouldn't have to. Simple enough for you to grasp. I don't think the kid will know what it missed.
If the raped kid doesn't want to carry the baby, they shouldn't have to. Simple enough for you to grasp. I don't think the kid will know what it missed.
Then come right out with it and say how it is.
You feel murder is justified in this case. Is that true?
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If the raped kid doesn't want to carry the baby, they shouldn't have to. Simple enough for you to grasp. I don't think the kid will know what it missed.
Then come right out with it and say how it is.
You feel murder is justified in this case. Is that true?
Then come right out with it and say how it is.
You feel murder is justified in this case. Is that true?
Murder and abortion are different. You can use whichever terms you wish. Call it super duper holocaust destructo-murder to frame your argument and it still isn't the same.
If an expecting mother wrecks a car while speeding and miscarries, did she commit manslaughter?
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Then come right out with it and say how it is.
You feel murder is justified in this case. Is that true?
Murder and abortion are different. You can use whichever terms you wish. Call it super duper holocaust destructo-murder to frame your argument and it still isn't the same.
If an expecting mother wrecks a car while speeding and miscarries, did she commit manslaughter?
Murder and abortion are different. You can use whichever terms you wish. Call it super duper holocaust destructo-murder to frame your argument and it still isn't the same.
If an expecting mother wrecks a car while speeding and miscarries, did she commit manslaughter?
Different?
Your killing a baby. How is that not murder?
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Murder and abortion are different. You can use whichever terms you wish. Call it super duper holocaust destructo-murder to frame your argument and it still isn't the same.
If an expecting mother wrecks a car while speeding and miscarries, did she commit manslaughter?
Different?
Your killing a baby. How is that not murder?
Different?
Your killing a baby. How is that not murder?
Is that mother guilty of manslaughter? That will help you figure out the difference.
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Different?
Your killing a baby. How is that not murder?
Is that mother guilty of manslaughter? That will help you figure out the difference.
Good luck.
Another example of government overreach.
These parents are Retarded, but it's their right to seek what they feel best for their child. Whether I would find it as negligence/manslaughter is another topic entirely. (At worst forced sterilization)
Now, I must ask - if you find this to be government over reach like myself, why do you not feel the same about the judge denying an 11 year old her choice to avoid carrying a child of rape? (Something forced upon her) not because of "inconvenience". Rape isn't "inconvenient"...
(Rhetorical, the bulk of you are hypocrites and the alt profiles are on ignore)
.... Like I said, I'm far more consistent in the application of my ideals.
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Then come right out with it and say how it is.
You feel murder is justified in this case. Is that true?
Murder and abortion are different. You can use whichever terms you wish. Call it super duper holocaust destructo-murder to frame your argument and it still isn't the same.
If an expecting mother wrecks a car while speeding and miscarries, did she commit manslaughter?
If an expecting mother wrecks a car while speeding and miscarries, did she commit manslaughter?
Not sure, but if someone murders a pregnant woman and the baby dies he is charged with a double homicide is he not?
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Different?
Your killing a baby. How is that not murder?
Is that mother guilty of manslaughter? That will help you figure out the difference.
Is that mother guilty of manslaughter? That will help you figure out the difference.
If abortion was illegal, then yes.
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Good luck.
Another example of government overreach.
These parents are Retarded, but it's their right to seek what they feel best for their child. Whether I would find it as negligence/manslaughter is another topic entirely. (At worst forced sterilization)
Now, I must ask - if you find this to be government over reach like myself, why do you not feel the same about the judge denying an 11 year old her choice to avoid carrying a child of rape? (Something forced upon her) not because of "inconvenience". Rape isn't "inconvenient"...
(Rhetorical, the bulk of you are hypocrites and the alt profiles are on ignore)
.... Like I said, I'm far more consistent in the application of my ideals.
Good luck.
Another example of government overreach.
These parents are Retarded, but it's their right to seek what they feel best for their child. Whether I would find it as negligence/manslaughter is another topic entirely. (At worst forced sterilization)
Now, I must ask - if you find this to be government over reach like myself, why do you not feel the same about the judge denying an 11 year old her choice to avoid carrying a child of rape? (Something forced upon her) not because of "inconvenience". Rape isn't "inconvenient"...
(Rhetorical, the bulk of you are hypocrites and the alt profiles are on ignore)
.... Like I said, I'm far more consistent in the application of my ideals.
Not so fast with the "hypocritical" bs. I'm not speaking for the others but I don't feel saving a kid from imminent death is govt overreach, no more than it is when social services pulls a kid out of an abusive household.
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If an expecting mother wrecks a car while speeding and miscarries, did she commit manslaughter?
Not sure, but if someone murders a pregnant woman and the baby dies he is charged with a double homicide is he not?
Not sure, but if someone murders a pregnant woman and the baby dies he is charged with a double homicide is he not?
Because it was against the will of the mother. It is a fuzzy area no doubt. If some people want the kid to be a legal person then in that scenario I laid out, the mom would be charged with manslaughter. I take the stance that because it is so morally fuzzy that I don’t feel I should be telling anyone what to do.
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Then come right out with it and say how it is.
You feel murder is justified in this case. Is that true?
Murder and abortion are different. You can use whichever terms you wish. Call it super duper holocaust destructo-murder to frame your argument and it still isn't the same.
If an expecting mother wrecks a car while speeding and miscarries, did she commit manslaughter?
Murder and abortion are different. You can use whichever terms you wish. Call it super duper holocaust destructo-murder to frame your argument and it still isn't the same.
If an expecting mother wrecks a car while speeding and miscarries, did she commit manslaughter?
two miles over the speed limit? or thirty miles over the speed limit? in heavy traffic or on a lonely highway?
high speed - I can see a case for criminally negligent homocide. 95 mph on a highway, anywhere, would be wreckless endangerment every time. Would that be intent to commit? then that is worse than "manslaughter", if a wreck occurs.
Two mph over any speed limit is NOT wreckless endangerment/criminally negligent homicide.
I could have been a lawyer.... lol
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Murder and abortion are different. You can use whichever terms you wish. Call it super duper holocaust destructo-murder to frame your argument and it still isn't the same.
If an expecting mother wrecks a car while speeding and miscarries, did she commit manslaughter?
two miles over the speed limit? or thirty miles over the speed limit? in heavy traffic or on a lonely highway?
high speed - I can see a case for criminally negligent homocide. 95 mph on a highway, anywhere, would be wreckless endangerment every time. Would that be intent to commit? then that is worse than "manslaughter", if a wreck occurs.
Two mph over any speed limit is NOT wreckless endangerment/criminally negligent homicide.
I could have been a lawyer.... lol
two miles over the speed limit? or thirty miles over the speed limit? in heavy traffic or on a lonely highway?
high speed - I can see a case for criminally negligent homocide. 95 mph on a highway, anywhere, would be wreckless endangerment every time. Would that be intent to commit? then that is worse than "manslaughter", if a wreck occurs.
Two mph over any speed limit is NOT wreckless endangerment/criminally negligent homicide.
I could have been a lawyer.... lol
It is fuzzy because manslaughter is killing someone on accident while being intentionally or unintentionally negligent and/or while breaking the law (speeding).
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Good luck.
Another example of government overreach.
These parents are Retarded, but it's their right to seek what they feel best for their child. Whether I would find it as negligence/manslaughter is another topic entirely. (At worst forced sterilization)
Now, I must ask - if you find this to be government over reach like myself, why do you not feel the same about the judge denying an 11 year old her choice to avoid carrying a child of rape? (Something forced upon her) not because of "inconvenience". Rape isn't "inconvenient"...
(Rhetorical, the bulk of you are hypocrites and the alt profiles are on ignore)
.... Like I said, I'm far more consistent in the application of my ideals.
Not so fast with the "hypocritical" bs. I'm not speaking for the others but I don't feel saving a kid from imminent death is govt overreach, no more than it is when social services pulls a kid out of an abusive household.
Not so fast with the "hypocritical" bs. I'm not speaking for the others but I don't feel saving a kid from imminent death is govt overreach, no more than it is when social services pulls a kid out of an abusive household.
So we're to save people from themselves now in cases where the end result isnt in clear sight?
You must be a proponent of red flag laws then. Since you feel the government has the ability to step in and say what is ultimately best for the individual.
Again, the parents are seeking treatment. Just not the one their doctors would like to see. Do we not have the right to refuse a doctors recommendation?
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The hypotheticals get crazy. Given the scenario where an "11 yr old gets raped" and is "held hostage by members who won't let her report it" etc etc etc
so, she gets pregnant, gets an abortion. Later in life, the guilt gets to her - and she kills herself. Does that make abortion worth arguing over?
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People here have done an amazing job of not talking about the baby.
There are no parallels when discussing putting to death an innocent child.
guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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