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Yet that is exactly what JD did when he swapped Zeitler for Vernon.
You have to give value to get value.
Maybe he did, and it still remains to be seen if that was the right move.
On the other hand, the trade of Zeitler may be compared to the trade of Carlos Hyde. That trade opened things up for Chubb to become the starting RB. He may see trading Zeitler as a way of opening things up for Corbett....whom, perhaps (like Chubb) he sees as a person with more potential than the person he traded.
Maybe he did, and it still remains to be seen if that was the right move.
On the other hand, the trade of Zeitler may be compared to the trade of Carlos Hyde. That trade opened things up for Chubb to become the starting RB. He may see trading Zeitler as a way of opening things up for Corbett....whom, perhaps (like Chubb) he sees as a person with more potential than the person he traded.
Minus the fact that Chubb had already taken meaningful regular season snaps and flashed when doing so.
Not your finest equivalency.
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Maybe he did, and it still remains to be seen if that was the right move.
On the other hand, the trade of Zeitler may be compared to the trade of Carlos Hyde. That trade opened things up for Chubb to become the starting RB. He may see trading Zeitler as a way of opening things up for Corbett....whom, perhaps (like Chubb) he sees as a person with more potential than the person he traded.
Minus the fact that Chubb had already taken meaningful regular season snaps and flashed when doing so.
Not your finest equivalency.
Minus the fact that Chubb had already taken meaningful regular season snaps and flashed when doing so.
Not your finest equivalency.
Well...remains to be seen. And it wouldn't be my equivalency...it would be Dorsey's. Lets just say that because he apparently felt that Zeitler was expendable that he must have had some idea that he had a plan to have a quality replacement available for him.
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Yet that is exactly what JD did when he swapped Zeitler for Vernon.
You have to give value to get value.
Maybe he did, and it still remains to be seen if that was the right move.
On the other hand, the trade of Zeitler may be compared to the trade of Carlos Hyde. That trade opened things up for Chubb to become the starting RB. He may see trading Zeitler as a way of opening things up for Corbett....whom, perhaps (like Chubb) he sees as a person with more potential than the person he traded.
Maybe he did, and it still remains to be seen if that was the right move.
Or fighting for the job as the second-string center
On the other hand, the trade of Zeitler may be compared to the trade of Carlos Hyde. That trade opened things up for Chubb to become the starting RB. He may see trading Zeitler as a way of opening things up for Corbett....whom, perhaps (like Chubb) he sees as a person with more potential than the person he traded.
So you think that's the most likely scenario? Or just yapping to hear to hear yourself yapp? ?
WSS
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Maybe he did, and it still remains to be seen if that was the right move.
Or fighting for the job as the second-string center
On the other hand, the trade of Zeitler may be compared to the trade of Carlos Hyde. That trade opened things up for Chubb to become the starting RB. He may see trading Zeitler as a way of opening things up for Corbett....whom, perhaps (like Chubb) he sees as a person with more potential than the person he traded.
So you think that's the most likely scenario? Or just yapping to hear to hear yourself yapp? ?
WSS
Well, I have certainly gone out of my way to listen to you yap just to hear yourself yap enough in my life. Haven't I.
But really...give it some thought. Do you really think that Dorsey let Zeitler go if he did not think that he had a plan to adequately replace him?
Or do you think it is just a case of Dorsey dumping someone who he was thinking was not "my guy" for someone who is "my guy"....regardless of the respective talents? (It would not be the first or last time an NFL GM did that)
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for what?
Hey man how long have you had that???
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how long have i had what?
I think he is talking about your crush on Ziggy Ansah.
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Looks like the fucking Ratfuckers are going heavy after McCoy.
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Looks like the fucking Ratfuckers are going heavy after McCoy.
Looks like the fucking Ratfuckers are going heavy after McCoy.
“Sources” saying he wants to play for a contender and BAL fits better. My unbiased opinion and money would say CLE is more of a contender right now.
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Yet that is exactly what JD did when he swapped Zeitler for Vernon.
You have to give value to get value.
Maybe he did, and it still remains to be seen if that was the right move.
On the other hand, the trade of Zeitler may be compared to the trade of Carlos Hyde. That trade opened things up for Chubb to become the starting RB. He may see trading Zeitler as a way of opening things up for Corbett....whom, perhaps (like Chubb) he sees as a person with more potential than the person he traded.
On the other hand, the trade of Zeitler may be compared to the trade of Carlos Hyde. That trade opened things up for Chubb to become the starting RB. He may see trading Zeitler as a way of opening things up for Corbett....whom, perhaps (like Chubb) he sees as a person with more potential than the person he traded.
Which is the definition of "a position of strength".
It usually takes you more than consecutive posts for you to contradict yourself
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any news on this? he was supposed to be signed by one or the other by today. I hope he's smart and realizes that his productivity might return to it's old form in our rotation. He's not going anywhere in the postseason with the Ravens.....not until they get a real QB. But if the Ravens throw money at him, clearly overpaying..which I suspect they will do..i can't blame him if he signs with them. If it's comparable offers tho….it's pretty clear who he should choose. But I think the Ravens are desperate to keep FA's out of Cleveland.
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any news on this? he was supposed to be signed by one or the other by today. I hope he's smart and realizes that his productivity might return to it's old form in our rotation. He's not going anywhere in the postseason with the Ravens.....not until they get a real QB. But if the Ravens throw money at him, clearly overpaying..which I suspect they will do..i can't blame him if he signs with them. If it's comparable offers tho….it's pretty clear who he should choose. But I think the Ravens are desperate to keep FA's out of Cleveland.
any news on this? he was supposed to be signed by one or the other by today. I hope he's smart and realizes that his productivity might return to it's old form in our rotation. He's not going anywhere in the postseason with the Ravens.....not until they get a real QB. But if the Ravens throw money at him, clearly overpaying..which I suspect they will do..i can't blame him if he signs with them. If it's comparable offers tho….it's pretty clear who he should choose. But I think the Ravens are desperate to keep FA's out of Cleveland.
They may be actually, didn’t think of that. We have about three times the cap room they do, so i think it should be a little easier for us to sign him.
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any news on this? he was supposed to be signed by one or the other by today. I hope he's smart and realizes that his productivity might return to it's old form in our rotation. He's not going anywhere in the postseason with the Ravens.....not until they get a real QB. But if the Ravens throw money at him, clearly overpaying..which I suspect they will do..i can't blame him if he signs with them. If it's comparable offers tho….it's pretty clear who he should choose. But I think the Ravens are desperate to keep FA's out of Cleveland.
They may be actually, didn’t think of that. We have about three times the cap room they do, so i think it should be a little easier for us to sign him.
They may be actually, didn’t think of that. We have about three times the cap room they do, so i think it should be a little easier for us to sign him.
yeah but will Dorsey overpay him?
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They may be actually, didn’t think of that. We have about three times the cap room they do, so i think it should be a little easier for us to sign him.
yeah but will Dorsey overpay him?
yeah but will Dorsey overpay him?
If it’s a one year deal, I don’t think I would mind if we overpaid a little tbh
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/free-agent-gerald-mccoy-reportedly-deciding-between-two-afc-north-teams/ why play now in a 3-4 defensive front with a QB that says he never knew his offense would change with a new OC ?..Leave your Agent in Balt-dee & ride to the Land.. Thank me later
when all your dinners are free..?
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yeah but will Dorsey overpay him?
If it’s a one year deal, I don’t think I would mind if we overpaid a little tbh
If it’s a one year deal, I don’t think I would mind if we overpaid a little tbh
well right but Blt will go either more pay or more years.
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On the other hand, the trade of Zeitler may be compared to the trade of Carlos Hyde. That trade opened things up for Chubb to become the starting RB. He may see trading Zeitler as a way of opening things up for Corbett....whom, perhaps (like Chubb) he sees as a person with more potential than the person he traded.
Which is the definition of "a position of strength".
It usually takes you more than consecutive posts for you to contradict yourself
Which is the definition of "a position of strength".
It usually takes you more than consecutive posts for you to contradict yourself
I didn't contradict myself at all....you just have comprehension/interpretation issues.
Trading Zeitler may indeed have created a weakness out of a position of strength. I simply related how it may be that Dorsey feels about it: moving someone to open up a position for someone else that he may have more confidence in. Why does he have more confidence in him? Perhaps, simply because Corbett was HIS choice.
So...no I did not contradict myself. I still do not believe you strengthen one position by weakening another. But despite what I think may have happened here....Dorsey may not think the same way as I do. Or maybe he does. Maybe he does NOT think that he has weakened the RG position by his moves. We just have to live by what he has done and hope he is right.
Will I defer to him because he has the job...and the experience and the knowlege? Absoluteley. (that does not mean that he will be proven right) And believe it or not...he even has all that over you despite what you may think.
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They are indicating he is now going to Carolina too. Can you spell distraction?
Let me know when he's a Brown......otherwise, meh....
We coulda/shoulda just dropped a 6th or 7th and it woulda been a done deal weeks ago.....
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