Gerald McCoy/ Mike Daniels
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Mccoy wussed out - the weather is a lot nicer down in the Carolinas....lol
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rumor is the Browns offered him 8. They don't know if that was after incentives. And signing with Carolina he gets to play the Bucs twice a year. Ah well, at least he didn't stiff us for the shitbirds. Still tho...i'm not comfortable with our interior D if either Sheldon or Jobi get hurt. I don't want to see Jobi out there playing hurt like he had to last year.
rumor is the Browns offered him 8.
Still tho...i'm not comfortable with our interior D if either Sheldon or Jobi get hurt. I don't want to see Jobi out there playing hurt like he had to last year.
How about Chris Smith?
“Chris Smith can play on the edge, but his value has always been more on the interior over the course of his career. This will be worth keeping an eye on under Steve Wilks as to where they try to utilize him. His box score hasn’t been great there, but his rate for generating pressure has been substantially higher inside.”
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rumor is the Browns offered him 8.
Still tho...i'm not comfortable with our interior D if either Sheldon or Jobi get hurt. I don't want to see Jobi out there playing hurt like he had to last year.
How about Chris Smith?
“Chris Smith can play on the edge, but his value has always been more on the interior over the course of his career. This will be worth keeping an eye on under Steve Wilks as to where they try to utilize him. His box score hasn’t been great there, but his rate for generating pressure has been substantially higher inside.”
How about Chris Smith?
“Chris Smith can play on the edge, but his value has always been more on the interior over the course of his career. This will be worth keeping an eye on under Steve Wilks as to where they try to utilize him. His box score hasn’t been great there, but his rate for generating pressure has been substantially higher inside.”
Glad somone else is mentioning Smith. He, much like Zettel, brings great flexibility to this dline in the mold that both are edge defenders with the strength to move inside in sub packages, passing downs and 4end looks.
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rumor is the Browns offered him 8.
Still tho...i'm not comfortable with our interior D if either Sheldon or Jobi get hurt. I don't want to see Jobi out there playing hurt like he had to last year.
How about Chris Smith?
“Chris Smith can play on the edge, but his value has always been more on the interior over the course of his career. This will be worth keeping an eye on under Steve Wilks as to where they try to utilize him. His box score hasn’t been great there, but his rate for generating pressure has been substantially higher inside.”
How about Chris Smith?
“Chris Smith can play on the edge, but his value has always been more on the interior over the course of his career. This will be worth keeping an eye on under Steve Wilks as to where they try to utilize him. His box score hasn’t been great there, but his rate for generating pressure has been substantially higher inside.”
i prefer smith at DE
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from what am hearing from Duke..How much does DT Damon 'Snacks' Harrison want at Lions? Snacks,is sitting it out in detroit..
from what am hearing from Duke..How much does DT Damon 'Snacks' Harrison want at Lions? Snacks,is sitting it out in detroit..
Wanting a long term contract extension... Not sure the Browns are willing to offer him that.
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How about Chris Smith?
“Chris Smith can play on the edge, but his value has always been more on the interior over the course of his career. This will be worth keeping an eye on under Steve Wilks as to where they try to utilize him. His box score hasn’t been great there, but his rate for generating pressure has been substantially higher inside.”
i prefer smith at DE
i prefer smith at DE
And like Zettel, is his base position. I'm merely saying they offer flexibility along the front by being able to move around.
tell the man he's age 30..just looked..he wants more than 6.7M this season & 1 more season, really pending
You can tell whatever you like to some people - doesn't mean they listen.
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i prefer smith at DE
And like Zettel, is his base position. I'm merely saying they offer flexibility along the front by being able to move around.
tell the man he's age 30..just looked..he wants more than 6.7M this season & 1 more season, really pending
You can tell whatever you like to some people - doesn't mean they listen.
And like Zettel, is his base position. I'm merely saying they offer flexibility along the front by being able to move around.
Smith can move inside on passing downs but im not comfortable with.him full time at DT if one ofvthe other 2 get hurt. That was my point. Love that we have him at DE depth.
As fir zettel...he prob wont make final roster. He's not beating out smith or Avery.
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And like Zettel, is his base position. I'm merely saying they offer flexibility along the front by being able to move around.
Smith can move inside on passing downs but im not comfortable with.him full time at DT if one ofvthe other 2 get hurt. That was my point. Love that we have him at DE depth.
As fir zettel...he prob wont make final roster. He's not beating out smith or Avery.
Smith can move inside on passing downs but im not comfortable with.him full time at DT if one ofvthe other 2 get hurt. That was my point. Love that we have him at DE depth.
As fir zettel...he prob wont make final roster. He's not beating out smith or Avery.
Avery is listed and will be carried on roster as a linebacker - rightfully so. In that regard neither are contending against Avery for a spot.
The ends listed on roster are Myles, Jarrel Owens, Wyatt Ray, Chris Smith, Chad Thomas, Vernon and Zettel.
So you can earkmark Myles & Vernon. Leaving at least two spots open for a 2 deep, then if you're feeling froggy - toss in Avery. Zettel and Smith have shown work in real NFL minutes. The rest are rookies and practice squad players.
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Smith can move inside on passing downs but im not comfortable with.him full time at DT if one ofvthe other 2 get hurt. That was my point. Love that we have him at DE depth.
As fir zettel...he prob wont make final roster. He's not beating out smith or Avery.
Avery is listed and will be carried on roster as a linebacker - rightfully so. In that regard neither are contending against Avery for a spot.
The ends listed on roster are Myles, Jarrel Owens, Wyatt Ray, Chris Smith, Chad Thomas, Vernon and Zettel.
So you can earkmark Myles & Vernon. Leaving at least two spots open for a 2 deep, then if you're feeling froggy - toss in Avery. Zettel and Smith have shown work in real NFL minutes. The rest are rookies and practice squad players.
Avery is listed and will be carried on roster as a linebacker - rightfully so. In that regard neither are contending against Avery for a spot.
The ends listed on roster are Myles, Jarrel Owens, Wyatt Ray, Chris Smith, Chad Thomas, Vernon and Zettel.
So you can earkmark Myles & Vernon. Leaving at least two spots open for a 2 deep, then if you're feeling froggy - toss in Avery. Zettel and Smith have shown work in real NFL minutes. The rest are rookies and practice squad players.
avery is technically labeled as olb'er mainly because he was the edge in gw's 34 packages. Not sure how wilks will use him....but he is absolutely our best pure edge rusher. He's not a 3 down 43 DE......obviously. But he's absolutely ahead on the chart over all those names save smith
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i prefer smith at DE
And like Zettel, is his base position. I'm merely saying they offer flexibility along the front by being able to move around.
tell the man he's age 30..just looked..he wants more than 6.7M this season & 1 more season, really pending
You can tell whatever you like to some people - doesn't mean they listen.
And like Zettel, is his base position. I'm merely saying they offer flexibility along the front by being able to move around.
You can tell whatever you like to some people - doesn't mean they listen.
Well, perhaps under the circumstances, those guys...Zettel and Smith may have to man the middle some.
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And like Zettel, is his base position. I'm merely saying they offer flexibility along the front by being able to move around.
You can tell whatever you like to some people - doesn't mean they listen.
Well, perhaps under the circumstances, those guys...Zettel and Smith may have to man the middle some.
Well, perhaps under the circumstances, those guys...Zettel and Smith may have to man the middle some.
And I'm certain they will when the situation calls for it. But it won't be in the same capacity that Jobi, Sheldon, Davis and Coley are.
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Avery is listed and will be carried on roster as a linebacker - rightfully so. In that regard neither are contending against Avery for a spot.
The ends listed on roster are Myles, Jarrel Owens, Wyatt Ray, Chris Smith, Chad Thomas, Vernon and Zettel.
So you can earkmark Myles & Vernon. Leaving at least two spots open for a 2 deep, then if you're feeling froggy - toss in Avery. Zettel and Smith have shown work in real NFL minutes. The rest are rookies and practice squad players.
avery is technically labeled as olb'er mainly because he was the edge in gw's 34 packages. Not sure how wilks will use him....but he is absolutely our best pure edge rusher. He's not a 3 down 43 DE......obviously. But he's absolutely ahead on the chart over all those names save smith
avery is technically labeled as olb'er mainly because he was the edge in gw's 34 packages. Not sure how wilks will use him....but he is absolutely our best pure edge rusher. He's not a 3 down 43 DE......obviously. But he's absolutely ahead on the chart over all those names save smith
He's labeled as a linebacker because aside from being a 2pt edge rusher, he was used as a classic strong side and drop role at times. He is a linebacker, he just offers a couple different skill sets as a pass rusher we utilize effectively and can align on or off ball.
I think we're speaking a different language but conveying the same things here.
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avery is technically labeled as olb'er mainly because he was the edge in gw's 34 packages. Not sure how wilks will use him....but he is absolutely our best pure edge rusher. He's not a 3 down 43 DE......obviously. But he's absolutely ahead on the chart over all those names save smith
He's labeled as a linebacker because aside from being a 2pt edge rusher, he was used as a classic strong side and drop role at times. He is a linebacker, he just offers a couple different skill sets as a pass rusher we utilize effectively and can align on or off ball.
I think we're speaking a different language but conveying the same things here.
he was used as a classic strong side and drop role at times.
what do u think his future is there? he's kind of short for much coverage duties.....and prob not fast enough to handle rb's coming out of the backfield.
edit: just saw this
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looks like wilks is having him compete for a spot on the line.
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he was used as a classic strong side and drop role at times.
what do u think his future is there? he's kind of short for much coverage duties.....and prob not fast enough to handle rb's coming out of the backfield.
edit: just saw this
what do u think his future is there? he's kind of short for much coverage duties.....and prob not fast enough to handle rb's coming out of the backfield.
edit: just saw this
He'll be a strong side backer in base - less than 10% of our snaps. Then he'll be a 2pt edge rusher the rest of the time.
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what do u think his future is there? he's kind of short for much coverage duties.....and prob not fast enough to handle rb's coming out of the backfield.
edit: just saw this
He'll be a strong side backer in base - less than 10% of our snaps. Then he'll be a 2pt edge rusher the rest of the time.
He'll be a strong side backer in base - less than 10% of our snaps. Then he'll be a 2pt edge rusher the rest of the time.
what kind of excited me about bringing mccoy in is we could have run two distinct defenses that catered to the players on the field. For a 34 We have a giant NT in Price, Mccoy as the 3T or 5T...with ofc the other guys rotating in. Hell even myles can play the 5T. There would be a def where Genard sees alot of reps.
Its no secret that i prefer overall the 43....but when ur loaded with talent like we are, being able to switch up defensive looks so that guys can come in and not just give other guys a rest but also play in the positions that best suit their talent. Id rather us do that than shoehorn genard in at a position in the 43 he might not be that good at.
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"If he would have came, it would have helped us, if not, we’re fine where we’re at,” defensive tackle Sheldon Richardson said. “I like our potential already. And no one’s taking my spot.”
Best response yet.
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"If he would have came, it would have helped us, if not, we’re fine where we’re at,” defensive tackle Sheldon Richardson said. “I like our potential already. And no one’s taking my spot.”
Best response yet.
"If he would have came, it would have helped us, if not, we’re fine where we’re at,” defensive tackle Sheldon Richardson said. “I like our potential already. And no one’s taking my spot.”
Best response yet.
i agree that they can stop asking the pkayers about him. Its not like we "needed" him. It just would have given wilks an amazing flexibility in scheme from week to week
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