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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    You have to respond to a bully. Trump showed good restraint in calling off an attack on Iran when he found out the estimated deaths of Iranians would be over 100 and that that was an over reaction response to their shooting down a drone of ours. Instead he went with more sanctions. How England handles the seizures of their tankers by Iran is their business but I doubt if they just sit back and take it. Let's remember too It is Iran that is pushing the envelope and being the aggressor.

    So what acronym are we going to use for the terror org that fills the Tehran power vacuum?

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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    @logicisforsquares said:

    So what acronym are we going to use for the terror org that fills the Tehran power vacuum?

    If you want to fight a war and do some nation building like we have tried in Iraq and Afghanistan that might apply but there are other ways to punish Iran and not going for regime change.

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      @logicisforsquares said:

      So what acronym are we going to use for the terror org that fills the Tehran power vacuum?

      If you want to fight a war and do some nation building like we have tried in Iraq and Afghanistan that might apply but there are other ways to punish Iran and not going for regime change.

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      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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      @oldbrownsfan said:

      If you want to fight a war and do some nation building like we have tried in Iraq and Afghanistan that might apply but there are other ways to punish Iran and not going for regime change.

      We seem to be incapable of not totally botching punishing ME countries. We didn’t put boots on the ground and still found a way to turn Libya into a complete disaster. 

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        @oldbrownsfan said:

        If you want to fight a war and do some nation building like we have tried in Iraq and Afghanistan that might apply but there are other ways to punish Iran and not going for regime change.

        We seem to be incapable of not totally botching punishing ME countries. We didn’t put boots on the ground and still found a way to turn Libya into a complete disaster. 

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        @logicisforsquares said:

        We seem to be incapable of not totally botching punishing ME countries. We didn’t put boots on the ground and still found a way to turn Libya into a complete disaster. 

        those middle east countries can be crapholes, and getting rid of the outhouse doesn't make it all clean in the pit. But sometimes, when the outhouse users are terrorists going to kill you..... it's time to drop a big bomb and take out the outhouse and blow the pit out, and let the remaining outhouse users rebuild it.

        something like that.

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          @logicisforsquares said:

          We seem to be incapable of not totally botching punishing ME countries. We didn’t put boots on the ground and still found a way to turn Libya into a complete disaster. 

          those middle east countries can be crapholes, and getting rid of the outhouse doesn't make it all clean in the pit. But sometimes, when the outhouse users are terrorists going to kill you..... it's time to drop a big bomb and take out the outhouse and blow the pit out, and let the remaining outhouse users rebuild it.

          something like that.

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          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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          @calfoxwc said:

          those middle east countries can be crapholes, and getting rid of the outhouse doesn't make it all clean in the pit. But sometimes, when the outhouse users are terrorists going to kill you..... it's time to drop a big bomb and take out the outhouse and blow the pit out, and let the remaining outhouse users rebuild it.

          something like that.

          That is how Israel does it and they have lots of experience dealing with terrorism. In Libya we really didn't have any business getting involved and hindsight being 20/20 Libya was better off with the dictator anyway.

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            @logicisforsquares said:

            We seem to be incapable of not totally botching punishing ME countries. We didn’t put boots on the ground and still found a way to turn Libya into a complete disaster. 

            those middle east countries can be crapholes, and getting rid of the outhouse doesn't make it all clean in the pit. But sometimes, when the outhouse users are terrorists going to kill you..... it's time to drop a big bomb and take out the outhouse and blow the pit out, and let the remaining outhouse users rebuild it.

            something like that.

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            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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            @calfoxwc said:

            those middle east countries can be crapholes, and getting rid of the outhouse doesn't make it all clean in the pit. But sometimes, when the outhouse users are terrorists going to kill you..... it's time to drop a big bomb and take out the outhouse and blow the pit out, and let the remaining outhouse users rebuild it.

            something like that.

            Overthrowing the dickheads that were in charge didn’t make us any safer. Instead of terrorists focusing on the dictators (i.e. Assad) they were left with lots of territory to control and only the West to think about. I would rather they stay in perpetual conflict in their shitty sandbox.

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            • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

              @calfoxwc said:

              those middle east countries can be crapholes, and getting rid of the outhouse doesn't make it all clean in the pit. But sometimes, when the outhouse users are terrorists going to kill you..... it's time to drop a big bomb and take out the outhouse and blow the pit out, and let the remaining outhouse users rebuild it.

              something like that.

              Overthrowing the dickheads that were in charge didn’t make us any safer. Instead of terrorists focusing on the dictators (i.e. Assad) they were left with lots of territory to control and only the West to think about. I would rather they stay in perpetual conflict in their shitty sandbox.

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              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              @logicisforsquares said:

              Overthrowing the dickheads that were in charge didn’t make us any safer. Instead of terrorists focusing on the dictators (i.e. Assad) they were left with lots of territory to control and only the West to think about. I would rather they stay in perpetual conflict in their shitty sandbox.

              Northern Iran:

              Image result for IRAN BEAUTIFUL PLACES PICS

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                @logicisforsquares said:

                Overthrowing the dickheads that were in charge didn’t make us any safer. Instead of terrorists focusing on the dictators (i.e. Assad) they were left with lots of territory to control and only the West to think about. I would rather they stay in perpetual conflict in their shitty sandbox.

                Northern Iran:

                Image result for IRAN BEAUTIFUL PLACES PICS

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                LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                Northern Iran:

                Image result for IRAN BEAUTIFUL PLACES PICS

                Had no idea. Too bad it is filled with Iranians.

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  wheres my strategic analysis of the uk's navy vs irans?

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                    wheres my strategic analysis of the uk's navy vs irans?

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                    GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by
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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    wheres my strategic analysis of the uk's navy vs irans?

                    You shoulda stopped while you were never ahead, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to embarrass you again.

                    You sourced a link that ranked Great Britain 5th.

                    I sourced two links. Neither rank GB in the top 10...the 1st link GB is ranked 32nd LOL.

                    Iran blows GB away,  both consistent in ranking Iran 4th.

                    https://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-ships.asp

                    https://www.businessinsider.com/biggest-navies-in-the-world-2018-4

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                    • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                      Iran’s fleet consists of canoes and guys in water wings.

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                      GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by Gorka
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                      @logicisforsquares said:

                      Iran’s fleet consists of canoes and guys in water wings.

                      Look up. ^^^ You might want to check the post right above this one.

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                        @logicisforsquares said:

                        Iran’s fleet consists of canoes and guys in water wings.

                        Look up. ^^^ You might want to check the post right above this one.

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        @gorka said:

                        Look up. ^^^ You might want to check the post right above this one.

                        Dig into the numbers supplied by that site. They count a patrol boat the same as you would an aircraft carrier.

                        Iran has zero aircraft carriers, zero destroyers, 88 patrol boats, and a ton of auxiliary and amphibious vehicles that make up the bulk of the 398. The site also said it doesn’t account for technology level. I don’t think the Brits would be concerned.

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                          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                          The business insider said 230 of their vessels were patrol boats. Quantity =\= quality here.

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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            wheres my strategic analysis of the uk's navy vs irans?

                            You shoulda stopped while you were never ahead, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to embarrass you again.

                            You sourced a link that ranked Great Britain 5th.

                            I sourced two links. Neither rank GB in the top 10...the 1st link GB is ranked 32nd LOL.

                            Iran blows GB away,  both consistent in ranking Iran 4th.

                            https://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-ships.asp

                            https://www.businessinsider.com/biggest-navies-in-the-world-2018-4

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                            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by Clevfan4life
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                            @gorka said:

                            You shoulda stopped while you were never ahead, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to embarrass you again.

                            You sourced a link that ranked Great Britain 5th.

                            I sourced two links. Neither rank GB in the top 10...the 1st link GB is ranked 32nd LOL.

                            Iran blows GB away,  both consistent in ranking Iran 4th.

                            https://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-ships.asp

                            https://www.businessinsider.com/biggest-navies-in-the-world-2018-4

                            omfg ur now the stupidest individual ive interacted with here. Im serious im not trolling. U provided a link based on volume, not strength. Iran has legions of rubber dinghies while the UK has nuclear powered nimitz class like aircraft carriers with stste of the art aircraft, nuclear powered frigates and battleships replete with state of the art cruise missiles from the u.s and france...and ballistic misdile nuclear fucking submarines.

                            Are fucking Retarded for real? and u think u've embarrassed me with this utter rubbish u dotard? how fucking stupid can an alleged grown up be? The other week u accused the obama admin of having ties to the guevara admin....a man who's been dead since 1967. If i didnt know better id swear u were a kid vecause no way a grownup can be this consistently ignorant.

                            im glad i got ur post quoted before it might have dawned on u what a mental fuckrunt u are......jesus christ man what in the all fuck is going on in ur brain dude?

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                              @clevfan4life said:

                              wheres my strategic analysis of the uk's navy vs irans?

                              You shoulda stopped while you were never ahead, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to embarrass you again.

                              You sourced a link that ranked Great Britain 5th.

                              I sourced two links. Neither rank GB in the top 10...the 1st link GB is ranked 32nd LOL.

                              Iran blows GB away,  both consistent in ranking Iran 4th.

                              https://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-ships.asp

                              https://www.businessinsider.com/biggest-navies-in-the-world-2018-4

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                              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                              @gorka said:

                              You shoulda stopped while you were never ahead, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to embarrass you again.

                              You sourced a link that ranked Great Britain 5th.

                              I sourced two links. Neither rank GB in the top 10...the 1st link GB is ranked 32nd LOL.

                              Iran blows GB away,  both consistent in ranking Iran 4th.

                              https://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-ships.asp

                              https://www.businessinsider.com/biggest-navies-in-the-world-2018-4

                              yep -

                              https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/why-irans-rag-tag-navy-would-actually-cause-lot-problems-war-66617

                              https://www.csis.org/analysis/iranian-missile-threat

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                                LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                Fellas, so because Clev said the Brits would shit on the Iranian navy, we are now bending backwards to make a large fleet of speed boats into some juggernaut. 

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                                  Fellas, so because Clev said the Brits would shit on the Iranian navy, we are now bending backwards to make a large fleet of speed boats into some juggernaut. 

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                                  @logicisforsquares said:

                                  Fellas, so because Clev said the Brits would shit on the Iranian navy, we are now bending backwards to make a large fleet of speed boats into some juggernaut. 

                                  its absolutely mental at this point. The iranian "navy" would turn into a legion of kamikaze speed boats loaded down with explosives....if u want to.call that a "powerful" navy instead of a bunch of muslim water nips......fine.. ?

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                                    Fellas, so because Clev said the Brits would shit on the Iranian navy, we are now bending backwards to make a large fleet of speed boats into some juggernaut. 

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                                    @logicisforsquares said:

                                    Fellas, so because Clev said the Brits would shit on the Iranian navy, we are now bending backwards to make a large fleet of speed boats into some juggernaut. 

                                    This is actually pretty funny.

                                    Someone let Trump know they're cheating on Omar with Cleve tho

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                                      Fellas, so because Clev said the Brits would shit on the Iranian navy, we are now bending backwards to make a large fleet of speed boats into some juggernaut. 

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                                      @logicisforsquares said:

                                      Fellas, so because Clev said the Brits would shit on the Iranian navy, we are now bending backwards to make a large fleet of speed boats into some juggernaut. 

                                      Logic.."sigh" you are thinking in terms of a standard navy confrontation. The European resistance fighters didn't have nazi equipment, either. The viet cong didn't have bombers.  The mainland communists didn't have much in the way of fancy equipment:

                                      just a giant manpowered guerilla army.

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Red_Army

                                      and it isn't Iran alone.

                                      The Russia-China-Iran Axis | UANI

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                                      Russia, China Stand as Primary Impediments to Isolating Iranian Regime. In 2018, the Trump administration withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal and initiated a “maximum .... Lastly, Russia has invested in Iran's missile defense systems.
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                                        @logicisforsquares said:

                                        Fellas, so because Clev said the Brits would shit on the Iranian navy, we are now bending backwards to make a large fleet of speed boats into some juggernaut. 

                                        Logic.."sigh" you are thinking in terms of a standard navy confrontation. The European resistance fighters didn't have nazi equipment, either. The viet cong didn't have bombers.  The mainland communists didn't have much in the way of fancy equipment:

                                        just a giant manpowered guerilla army.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Red_Army

                                        and it isn't Iran alone.

                                        The Russia-China-Iran Axis | UANI

                                        https://www.unitedagainstnucleariran.com/russia-china-iran-axis
                                        Russia, China Stand as Primary Impediments to Isolating Iranian Regime. In 2018, the Trump administration withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal and initiated a “maximum .... Lastly, Russia has invested in Iran's missile defense systems.
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                                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        Logic.."sigh" you are thinking in terms of a standard navy confrontation. The European resistance fighters didn't have nazi equipment, either. The viet cong didn't have bombers.  The mainland communists didn't have much in the way of fancy equipment:

                                        just a giant manpowered guerilla army.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Red_Army

                                        and it isn't Iran alone.

                                        The Russia-China-Iran Axis | UANI

                                        https://www.unitedagainstnucleariran.com/russia-china-iran-axis
                                         
                                        Russia, China Stand as Primary Impediments to Isolating Iranian Regime. In 2018, the Trump administration withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal and initiated a “maximum .... Lastly, Russia has invested in Iran's missile defense systems.

                                        Are we bringing up guerilla warfare when comparing two navies fighting on water? 

                                        If we are using allies in this discussion, we would have to bring up the US Navy.

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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          Logic.."sigh" you are thinking in terms of a standard navy confrontation. The European resistance fighters didn't have nazi equipment, either. The viet cong didn't have bombers.  The mainland communists didn't have much in the way of fancy equipment:

                                          just a giant manpowered guerilla army.

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Red_Army

                                          and it isn't Iran alone.

                                          The Russia-China-Iran Axis | UANI

                                          https://www.unitedagainstnucleariran.com/russia-china-iran-axis
                                           
                                          Russia, China Stand as Primary Impediments to Isolating Iranian Regime. In 2018, the Trump administration withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal and initiated a “maximum .... Lastly, Russia has invested in Iran's missile defense systems.

                                          Are we bringing up guerilla warfare when comparing two navies fighting on water? 

                                          If we are using allies in this discussion, we would have to bring up the US Navy.

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                                          @logicisforsquares said:

                                          Are we bringing up guerilla warfare 

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