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  • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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    As distasteful as it is I have to agree with Cleve that I think video games and other similar technology is a piece of the puzzle. A generation that grows up dealing with Society through a handheld screen doesn't become as socialized. Didn't anybody notice  a nasty turn of  a corner when Grand Theft Auto came out?  When you can play  at beating hookers to death and watching their blood spatter on the street ?  Didn't that kick it up a notch over shooting  Monsters and Aliens?  Really? Of course there are plenty of other factors one of which the instant Fame and notoriety a kid can add to his miserable and useless life takes things to a new height. Like a wild west Outlaw collecting wanted posters these kids have their life story tools to millions and millions of people every few minutes.

    I have no doubt that Woody can play any video game he wants and not be pushed any closer to mass violence. That's probably true with all but one out of 50 million people. But when we talk about mass shootings we are talking about that exact one person out of 50 million. So basically anything I say or anybody else says is going to wind up being bulshit anyhow.

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      PS on a semi-related note when the Boomers were kids somebody found a Playboy and hit it in a drawer and it was a big deal. Today 12 year olds can jerk off to some of the most violent pornography available on their Galaxy or iPhone.

      You don't think that takes a toll on society? Not that it can be stopped but still...

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        Well we definitely are the only country with video games...

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          Related to what WSS said I would echo that as well as to how much damage is being done to young people being exposed to the worst kind of porn imaginable? I think we are going to find that out going forward. 

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            As distasteful as it is I have to agree with Cleve that I think video games and other similar technology is a piece of the puzzle. A generation that grows up dealing with Society through a handheld screen doesn't become as socialized. Didn't anybody notice  a nasty turn of  a corner when Grand Theft Auto came out?  When you can play  at beating hookers to death and watching their blood spatter on the street ?  Didn't that kick it up a notch over shooting  Monsters and Aliens?  Really? Of course there are plenty of other factors one of which the instant Fame and notoriety a kid can add to his miserable and useless life takes things to a new height. Like a wild west Outlaw collecting wanted posters these kids have their life story tools to millions and millions of people every few minutes.

            I have no doubt that Woody can play any video game he wants and not be pushed any closer to mass violence. That's probably true with all but one out of 50 million people. But when we talk about mass shootings we are talking about that exact one person out of 50 million. So basically anything I say or anybody else says is going to wind up being bulshit anyhow.

            WSS

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            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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            @westside-steve said:

            As distasteful as it is I have to agree with Cleve that I think video games and other similar technology is a piece of the puzzle. A generation that grows up dealing with Society through a handheld screen doesn't become as socialized.

            Ironic given the amount of trolls and general shit talkers on this very board. Many of which, I presume to be older than my generation (or those a few years younger) which grew up with said video games and handheld screens.

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              Related to what WSS said I would echo that as well as to how much damage is being done to young people being exposed to the worst kind of porn imaginable? I think we are going to find that out going forward. 

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              @oldbrownsfan said:

              Related to what WSS said I would echo that as well as to how much damage is being done to young people being exposed to the worst kind of porn imaginable? I think we are going to find that out going forward. 

              Next thing you know we'll be taking kids to public hangings and witch burnings....

              .... Oh wait

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                @oldbrownsfan said:

                Related to what WSS said I would echo that as well as to how much damage is being done to young people being exposed to the worst kind of porn imaginable? I think we are going to find that out going forward. 

                Next thing you know we'll be taking kids to public hangings and witch burnings....

                .... Oh wait

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                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                @mld-woody said:

                Next thing you know we'll be taking kids to public hangings and witch burnings....

                .... Oh wait

                You really shouldn't point to bad behavior to justify bad behavior.

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                  @mld-woody said:

                  Next thing you know we'll be taking kids to public hangings and witch burnings....

                  .... Oh wait

                  You really shouldn't point to bad behavior to justify bad behavior.

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                  You really shouldn't point to bad behavior to justify bad behavior.

                  At no point was I justifying anything

                  Try again

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                    You really shouldn't point to bad behavior to justify bad behavior.

                    At no point was I justifying anything

                    Try again

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                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    @mld-woody said:

                    At no point was I justifying anything

                    Try again

                    Two wrongs don't make a right? What point are you making? I think we agree all those things were wrong and you agree that young people being exposed to the worst kind of porn is comparable to children in the past being exposed to public hangings or witch burning. All wrong...right? 

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                      Well we definitely are the only country with video games...

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                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                      @mld-woody said:

                      Well we definitely are the only country with video games...

                      This. These games are available everywhere yet we appear to be the only country regularly producing little psychos who want to off a bunch of people they don't know.

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                        @mld-woody said:

                        At no point was I justifying anything

                        Try again

                        Two wrongs don't make a right? What point are you making? I think we agree all those things were wrong and you agree that young people being exposed to the worst kind of porn is comparable to children in the past being exposed to public hangings or witch burning. All wrong...right? 

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                        Two wrongs don't make a right? What point are you making? I think we agree all those things were wrong and you agree that young people being exposed to the worst kind of porn is comparable to children in the past being exposed to public hangings or witch burning. All wrong...right? 

                        You were trying to make the point that things are worse now (breakdown of family or whatever) because of violence, porn, whatever. 

                        I'm saying kids have been exposed to violence forever. Probably a hell of a lot worse in the past. 

                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                          @mld-woody said:

                          Well we definitely are the only country with video games...

                          This. These games are available everywhere yet we appear to be the only country regularly producing little psychos who want to off a bunch of people they don't know.

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          @logicisforsquares said:

                          This. These games are available everywhere yet we appear to be the only country regularly producing little psychos who want to off a bunch of people they don't know.

                          Or at the very least we're the only country easily giving these little psychos the means to carry out their twisted fantasies. 

                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                            @oldbrownsfan said:

                            Two wrongs don't make a right? What point are you making? I think we agree all those things were wrong and you agree that young people being exposed to the worst kind of porn is comparable to children in the past being exposed to public hangings or witch burning. All wrong...right? 

                            You were trying to make the point that things are worse now (breakdown of family or whatever) because of violence, porn, whatever. 

                            I'm saying kids have been exposed to violence forever. Probably a hell of a lot worse in the past. 

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                            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                            @mld-woody said:

                            You were trying to make the point that things are worse now (breakdown of family or whatever) because of violence, porn, whatever. 

                            I'm saying kids have been exposed to violence forever. Probably a hell of a lot worse in the past. 

                            Stop speaking ill of our better spiritual days. *heads down to the flea market to buy people*

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              You were trying to make the point that things are worse now (breakdown of family or whatever) because of violence, porn, whatever. 

                              I'm saying kids have been exposed to violence forever. Probably a hell of a lot worse in the past. 

                              Stop speaking ill of our better spiritual days. *heads down to the flea market to buy people*

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @logicisforsquares said:

                              Stop speaking ill of our better spiritual days. *heads down to the flea market to buy people*

                              Amen brother

                              *goes to grab cleaver to cut the hands off of an adulterer*

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                @oldbrownsfan said:

                                Two wrongs don't make a right? What point are you making? I think we agree all those things were wrong and you agree that young people being exposed to the worst kind of porn is comparable to children in the past being exposed to public hangings or witch burning. All wrong...right? 

                                You were trying to make the point that things are worse now (breakdown of family or whatever) because of violence, porn, whatever. 

                                I'm saying kids have been exposed to violence forever. Probably a hell of a lot worse in the past. 

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                                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                @mld-woody said:

                                You were trying to make the point that things are worse now (breakdown of family or whatever) because of violence, porn, whatever. 

                                I'm saying kids have been exposed to violence forever. Probably a hell of a lot worse in the past. 

                                Each one of the issues involves opening a different can of worms. This is a new can of worms and now we will see how it plays out.

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                                  @logicisforsquares said:

                                  This. These games are available everywhere yet we appear to be the only country regularly producing little psychos who want to off a bunch of people they don't know.

                                  Or at the very least we're the only country easily giving these little psychos the means to carry out their twisted fantasies. 

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                                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Or at the very least we're the only country easily giving these little psychos the means to carry out their twisted fantasies. 

                                  No doubt. You know I am likely the most pro 2A person on here but we obviously have the means to give little loons the capability of causing a lot of carnage. I would hope that some changes could be made to HIPAA laws to make background checks cover mental health issues in the past. As it stands, you get a question that asks if you have or currently have been deemed "mentally adjudicated" and you can lie your ass off without any means to confirm or rule it out by the person running the background check. Felonies and domestic charges are easy to track so they pop on the check.

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                                    PS on a semi-related note when the Boomers were kids somebody found a Playboy and hit it in a drawer and it was a big deal. Today 12 year olds can jerk off to some of the most violent pornography available on their Galaxy or iPhone.

                                    You don't think that takes a toll on society? Not that it can be stopped but still...

                                    WSS

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                                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    PS on a semi-related note when the Boomers were kids somebody found a Playboy and hit it in a drawer and it was a big deal. Today 12 year olds can jerk off to some of the most violent pornography available on their Galaxy or iPhone.

                                    You don't think that takes a toll on society? Not that it can be stopped but still...

                                    WSS

                                    Ted Bundy blamed pornography for his being a serial killer.  I never look at Red Tube, or Porn Hub, or........

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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      You were trying to make the point that things are worse now (breakdown of family or whatever) because of violence, porn, whatever. 

                                      I'm saying kids have been exposed to violence forever. Probably a hell of a lot worse in the past. 

                                      Stop speaking ill of our better spiritual days. *heads down to the flea market to buy people*

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                                      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      @logicisforsquares said:

                                      Stop speaking ill of our better spiritual days. *heads down to the flea market to buy people*

                                      I'll give you an example of what I am talking about. Things weren't so great in the great depression yet with all the suffering and hardships you did not see rioting or anarchy. Why?  Do you think if we had another great depression that people would act like they did in the 30"s?. I don't. We have seen already how people will act with some of the natural disasters such as hurricane Katrina. If we have another great depression we will have anarchy and riots. I believe the reason for this difference is the spiritual condition of the people and the country at the time. Putting it simply they had more morals back then vs today.

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                                        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          Well we definitely are the only country with video games...

                                          This. These games are available everywhere yet we appear to be the only country regularly producing little psychos who want to off a bunch of people they don't know.

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                                          hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                                          @logicisforsquares said:

                                          This. These games are available everywhere yet we appear to be the only country regularly producing little psychos who want to off a bunch of people they don't know.

                                          Broaden your search.

                                          There are mass slaying going on all over the world, daily.  You just never hear about it.  Daily is probably an exaggeration but do the math and you’ll see a small fraction of a percent are affected by these killers.

                                          We advertise the psychos, they have always been around though.

                                          guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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