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  • Go to most any community park this time of year and see the parking lot filled with cars. Wonder why? That’s all the local kids there playing soccer. Call it what you like but it’s very popular anymore. I bet more American children play soccer now than little league baseball and youth football leagues combined. 

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Go to most any community park this time of year and see the parking lot filled with cars. Wonder why? That’s all the local kids there playing soccer. Call it what you like but it’s very popular anymore. I bet more American children play soccer now than little league baseball and youth football leagues combined. 

    You nailed it ffd. I have no doubt in my mind when all these kids are in their 20s and 30s and the old anti-soccer crowd  croaks, soccer will be  challenging the NFL in popularity here. Said way back in the late  90s when  soccer  was taking off,  we'd eventually have some homegrown stars who could  compete at the highest level. Check. When those who played as kids  started  coaching the junior  play would  improve.  Check. And Gipper is full of  shit  if he thinks there's no talent involved  to play the sport. Check. You need virtually  a marathon  runners  endurance  and plenty of  talent to play the sport  at the highest level.  Ask Chris Collinsworth about  that when a Cincinnati club soccer team creamed a group of the Bengals on a bet.

    @mjp28 said:

    Putting together a professional football, baseball even hockey and basketball team is very expensive in equipment and facilities NOT even counting the salaries.

    Soccer can be played virtually anywhere.

    Probably why soccer is  gaining  in popularity.  Shoes, uniform, and  a field. Ahem- pitch to be proper. 

    Having played hockey, it's probably the  most expensive sport of all  to get involved in.  You're not  only paying for  ice  time, equipment is crazy expensive if you're  not buying  junk. If I wanted to get back to playing goalie on a senior team, I'd be  looking at at least $3,000 in equipment, probably  more. 

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    Go to most any community park this time of year and see the parking lot filled with cars. Wonder why? That’s all the local kids there playing soccer. Call it what you like but it’s very popular anymore. I bet more American children play soccer now than little league baseball and youth football leagues combined. 

    You nailed it ffd. I have no doubt in my mind when all these kids are in their 20s and 30s and the old anti-soccer crowd  croaks, soccer will be  challenging the NFL in popularity here. Said way back in the late  90s when  soccer  was taking off,  we'd eventually have some homegrown stars who could  compete at the highest level. Check. When those who played as kids  started  coaching the junior  play would  improve.  Check. And Gipper is full of  shit  if he thinks there's no talent involved  to play the sport. Check. You need virtually  a marathon  runners  endurance  and plenty of  talent to play the sport  at the highest level.  Ask Chris Collinsworth about  that when a Cincinnati club soccer team creamed a group of the Bengals on a bet.

    @mjp28 said:

    Putting together a professional football, baseball even hockey and basketball team is very expensive in equipment and facilities NOT even counting the salaries.

    Soccer can be played virtually anywhere.

    Probably why soccer is  gaining  in popularity.  Shoes, uniform, and  a field. Ahem- pitch to be proper. 

    Having played hockey, it's probably the  most expensive sport of all  to get involved in.  You're not  only paying for  ice  time, equipment is crazy expensive if you're  not buying  junk. If I wanted to get back to playing goalie on a senior team, I'd be  looking at at least $3,000 in equipment, probably  more. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    You nailed it ffd. I have no doubt in my mind when all these kids are in their 20s and 30s and the old anti-soccer crowd  croaks, soccer will be  challenging the NFL in popularity here. Said way back in the late  90s when  soccer  was taking off,  we'd eventually have some homegrown stars who could  compete at the highest level. Check. When those who played as kids  started  coaching the junior  play would  improve.  Check. And Gipper is full of  shit  if he thinks there's no talent involved  to play the sport. Check. You need virtually  a marathon  runners  endurance  and plenty of  talent to play the sport  at the highest level.  Ask Chris Collinsworth about  that when a Cincinnati club soccer team creamed a group of the Bengals on a bet.

    I never said there was no talent...I said it did not involve the same skill level...at its basic level.   And oh...What was that bet on?  Running distances? No shit Sherlock, that is what soccer is all about...and about all they do...run around all day.  That would be like football players to challenge NBA players to a slam dunk contest.  How about the soccer players challenge the football players to like King of the Hill or Smear the Queer.   See who wins that.

    Probably why soccer is  gaining  in popularity.  Shoes, uniform, and  a field. Ahem- pitch to be proper. 

    Having played hockey, it's probably the  most expensive sport of all  to get involved in.  You're not  only paying for  ice  time, equipment is crazy expensive if you're  not buying  junk. If I wanted to get back to playing goalie on a senior team, I'd be  looking at at least $3,000 in equipment, probably  more. 

    We used to play hockey in the winter on the nearby swamp.  Didn't need any of that.  As long as the ice was frozen.  We played in our boots, no skates. Used sticks we found off trees. Used a rock for a puck and just like an old chair or a bucket for the goal.

  • @hoorta said:

    You nailed it ffd. I have no doubt in my mind when all these kids are in their 20s and 30s and the old anti-soccer crowd  croaks, soccer will be  challenging the NFL in popularity here. Said way back in the late  90s when  soccer  was taking off,  we'd eventually have some homegrown stars who could  compete at the highest level. Check. When those who played as kids  started  coaching the junior  play would  improve.  Check. And Gipper is full of  shit  if he thinks there's no talent involved  to play the sport. Check. You need virtually  a marathon  runners  endurance  and plenty of  talent to play the sport  at the highest level.  Ask Chris Collinsworth about  that when a Cincinnati club soccer team creamed a group of the Bengals on a bet.

    I never said there was no talent...I said it did not involve the same skill level...at its basic level.   And oh...What was that bet on?  Running distances? No shit Sherlock, that is what soccer is all about...and about all they do...run around all day.  That would be like football players to challenge NBA players to a slam dunk contest.  How about the soccer players challenge the football players to like King of the Hill or Smear the Queer.   See who wins that.

    Probably why soccer is  gaining  in popularity.  Shoes, uniform, and  a field. Ahem- pitch to be proper. 

    Having played hockey, it's probably the  most expensive sport of all  to get involved in.  You're not  only paying for  ice  time, equipment is crazy expensive if you're  not buying  junk. If I wanted to get back to playing goalie on a senior team, I'd be  looking at at least $3,000 in equipment, probably  more. 

    We used to play hockey in the winter on the nearby swamp.  Didn't need any of that.  As long as the ice was frozen.  We played in our boots, no skates. Used sticks we found off trees. Used a rock for a puck and just like an old chair or a bucket for the goal.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    I never said there was no talent...I said it did not involve the same skill level...at its basic level.   And oh...What was that bet on?  Running distances? No shit Sherlock, that is what soccer is all about...and about all they do...run around all day.  That would be like football players to challenge NBA players to a slam dunk contest.  How about the soccer players challenge the football players to like King of the Hill or Smear the Queer.   See who wins that.

    We used to play hockey in the winter on the nearby swamp.  Didn't need any of that.  As long as the ice was frozen.  We played in our boots, no skates. Used sticks we found off trees. Used a rock for a puck and just like an old chair or a bucket for the goal.

    It was the Cinci slugs against the Bengals- real soccer match kiddo. Bengals even had their kicker Horst Muhlman who played soccer in Germany as their goalie. The Bengals quit when they were down 10-0. Their far superior athletic ability got trumped by superior talent. In case you're wondering I didn't make this up. I heard it from Collinsworth himself.   Wah, wah. And every pro soccer player would gas 99% of NFL players and do a horizon job on them in a 10k race. You're so anti soccer- why not have soccer players get challenged to a 225 bench press contest with NFL linemen? More selective BS on your part, if you want to pick one facet of ability. 

    Yeah, I learned to play hockey the same way on a frozen pond- but we at least had skates, and real hockey sticks. Some of those guys couldn't skate too well. I'll tell you this- the level of skating now in HS hockey is in a different world than what it was in 1970. And playing organized hockey now entails a significant financial outlay. Just a pair of skates costs at least $150 bucks. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    I never said there was no talent...I said it did not involve the same skill level...at its basic level.   And oh...What was that bet on?  Running distances? No shit Sherlock, that is what soccer is all about...and about all they do...run around all day.  That would be like football players to challenge NBA players to a slam dunk contest.  How about the soccer players challenge the football players to like King of the Hill or Smear the Queer.   See who wins that.

    We used to play hockey in the winter on the nearby swamp.  Didn't need any of that.  As long as the ice was frozen.  We played in our boots, no skates. Used sticks we found off trees. Used a rock for a puck and just like an old chair or a bucket for the goal.

    It was the Cinci slugs against the Bengals- real soccer match kiddo. Bengals even had their kicker Horst Muhlman who played soccer in Germany as their goalie. The Bengals quit when they were down 10-0. Their far superior athletic ability got trumped by superior talent. In case you're wondering I didn't make this up. I heard it from Collinsworth himself.   Wah, wah. And every pro soccer player would gas 99% of NFL players and do a horizon job on them in a 10k race. You're so anti soccer- why not have soccer players get challenged to a 225 bench press contest with NFL linemen? More selective BS on your part, if you want to pick one facet of ability. 

    Yeah, I learned to play hockey the same way on a frozen pond- but we at least had skates, and real hockey sticks. Some of those guys couldn't skate too well. I'll tell you this- the level of skating now in HS hockey is in a different world than what it was in 1970. And playing organized hockey now entails a significant financial outlay. Just a pair of skates costs at least $150 bucks. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #31

    @hoorta said:

    It was the Cinci slugs against the Bengals- real soccer match kiddo. Bengals even had their kicker Horst Muhlman who played soccer in Germany as their goalie. The Bengals quit when they were down 10-0. Their far superior athletic ability got trumped by superior talent. In case you're wondering I didn't make this up. I heard it from Collinsworth himself.   Wah, wah. And every pro soccer player would gas 99% of NFL players and do a horizon job on them in a 10k race. You're so anti soccer- why not have soccer players get challenged to a 225 bench press contest with NFL linemen? More selective BS on your part, if you want to pick one facet of ability. 

    Well...yea.   The professional soccer challenges the football team..at soccer...and surprise, surprise, surprise...the pro soccer players win big.   How about this....the football team plays the soccer team...at football. What do you think would happen?   Mayhem for the soccer team of course.

    Maybe they should have played a baseball game?

    Yeah, I learned to play hockey the same way on a frozen pond- but we at least had skates, and real hockey sticks. Some of those guys couldn't skate too well. I'll tell you this- the level of skating now in HS hockey is in a different world than what it was in 1970. And playing organized hockey now entails a significant financial outlay. Just a pair of skates costs at least $150 bucks. 

    A kids soccer ball costs what?  10-12 bucks?  A baseball costs about 6-7 bucks.  A glove a lot more.  

    A kids football is about 20 bucks.   I checked the prices from Dick's.

  • @hoorta said:

    It was the Cinci slugs against the Bengals- real soccer match kiddo. Bengals even had their kicker Horst Muhlman who played soccer in Germany as their goalie. The Bengals quit when they were down 10-0. Their far superior athletic ability got trumped by superior talent. In case you're wondering I didn't make this up. I heard it from Collinsworth himself.   Wah, wah. And every pro soccer player would gas 99% of NFL players and do a horizon job on them in a 10k race. You're so anti soccer- why not have soccer players get challenged to a 225 bench press contest with NFL linemen? More selective BS on your part, if you want to pick one facet of ability. 

    Well...yea.   The professional soccer challenges the football team..at soccer...and surprise, surprise, surprise...the pro soccer players win big.   How about this....the football team plays the soccer team...at football. What do you think would happen?   Mayhem for the soccer team of course.

    Maybe they should have played a baseball game?

    Yeah, I learned to play hockey the same way on a frozen pond- but we at least had skates, and real hockey sticks. Some of those guys couldn't skate too well. I'll tell you this- the level of skating now in HS hockey is in a different world than what it was in 1970. And playing organized hockey now entails a significant financial outlay. Just a pair of skates costs at least $150 bucks. 

    A kids soccer ball costs what?  10-12 bucks?  A baseball costs about 6-7 bucks.  A glove a lot more.  

    A kids football is about 20 bucks.   I checked the prices from Dick's.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
    #32

    @the-gipper said:

    Well...yea.   The professional soccer challenges the football team..at soccer...and surprise, surprise, surprise...the pro soccer players win big.   How about this....the football team plays the soccer team...at football. What do you think would happen?   Mayhem for the soccer team of course.

    Maybe they should have played a baseball game?

    It was low amateur soccer doofus. The point being the Bengal players thought they were hot shit, and soccer players were a bunch of pansies. Just like you apparently do. 😁 

    Just give it up already, you're fighting a losing battle, and the Millennials are going to win it.  It's inevitable as the tide coming in. Baseball used to be "The National Pastime", now for the majority of sports fans it just "passes time" until football starts.  The same could well happen to the NFL- a victim of it's own success. 

  • KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
    #33

    Funny thing....im the last teacher in my high school with a comorehensive science degree...i am certified for all sciences.  Every other teacher is life or earth science.  We have teachers teaching classes they arent even certified for.  I swear I should hold out for a bigger contract...they havent been able to find another certified physics or chem teacher for 2 years.  I should hold out and see what the market offers lol.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well...yea.   The professional soccer challenges the football team..at soccer...and surprise, surprise, surprise...the pro soccer players win big.   How about this....the football team plays the soccer team...at football. What do you think would happen?   Mayhem for the soccer team of course.

    Maybe they should have played a baseball game?

    It was low amateur soccer doofus. The point being the Bengal players thought they were hot shit, and soccer players were a bunch of pansies. Just like you apparently do. 😁 

    Just give it up already, you're fighting a losing battle, and the Millennials are going to win it.  It's inevitable as the tide coming in. Baseball used to be "The National Pastime", now for the majority of sports fans it just "passes time" until football starts.  The same could well happen to the NFL- a victim of it's own success. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #34

    @hoorta said:

    It was low amateur soccer doofus. The point being the Bengal players thought they were hot shit, and soccer players were a bunch of pansies. Just like you apparently do. 😁 

    They were still playing fucking soccer.  And they were still playing a soccer team. Of course the Bengals would lose. If the Bengals challenged the Wittenberg basketball team to a basketball game they would get their hats handed to them. 

    They should have played baseball.

    Just give it up already, you're fighting a losing battle, and the Millennials are going to win it.  It's inevitable as the tide coming in. Baseball used to be "The National Pastime", now for the majority of sports fans it just "passes time" until football starts.  The same could well happen to the NFL- a victim of it's own success. 

    Really.....Average MLB attendance:  28,830 per game....for a game played every day.  MLS...avg attendance...21,692.  for a game played once per week.  

    And Lacrosse may eventually overtake them all.  I have seen something that said they had a 73,000 some crowd for a lacrosse game in Denver.  An outlier, certainly...but maybe a trend.

  • @hoorta said:

    It was low amateur soccer doofus. The point being the Bengal players thought they were hot shit, and soccer players were a bunch of pansies. Just like you apparently do. 😁 

    They were still playing fucking soccer.  And they were still playing a soccer team. Of course the Bengals would lose. If the Bengals challenged the Wittenberg basketball team to a basketball game they would get their hats handed to them. 

    They should have played baseball.

    Just give it up already, you're fighting a losing battle, and the Millennials are going to win it.  It's inevitable as the tide coming in. Baseball used to be "The National Pastime", now for the majority of sports fans it just "passes time" until football starts.  The same could well happen to the NFL- a victim of it's own success. 

    Really.....Average MLB attendance:  28,830 per game....for a game played every day.  MLS...avg attendance...21,692.  for a game played once per week.  

    And Lacrosse may eventually overtake them all.  I have seen something that said they had a 73,000 some crowd for a lacrosse game in Denver.  An outlier, certainly...but maybe a trend.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
    #35

    @the-gipper said:

    As bad as Ghoolie- just have to get the last word in... 

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
    #36

    All you got to do is be around some children to see the future. Not the millennial generation. The youth. Soccer will be the next big thing here. Teens and preteens are flocking to it. It’s been growing and zero sign of it regressing here the past 50 years. And with Goodhell and his idea of the National Feline League, it’s not hard to see what the future of pro sports will be like here in 50 years. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    As bad as Ghoolie- just have to get the last word in... 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
    #37

    @hoorta said:

    As bad as Ghoolie- just have to get the last word in... 

    Yep - see evaluation of kickers from college to pro vs his QB comparison as the same.  LOL!?

    And he will never admit that there was contact of chest to helmet in the roughing the QB call either.?

  • @hoorta said:

    As bad as Ghoolie- just have to get the last word in... 

    Yep - see evaluation of kickers from college to pro vs his QB comparison as the same.  LOL!?

    And he will never admit that there was contact of chest to helmet in the roughing the QB call either.?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #38

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yep - see evaluation of kickers from college to pro vs his QB comparison as the same.  LOL!?

    And he will never admit that there was contact of chest to helmet in the roughing the QB call either.?

    I said I would have to see the tape again...because I must have missed something.  Show the video. 

    On the other thing...I was just jumping in your shit because you have become Woody like....slavering over every TAMU player that might even see a cup of coffee.   But actually, no, I don't think that just because a punter ...or any other position...is great in college means he will turn out great in the pros.

    I mean, what is the reason you were here in the first place?  Hello Johnny Fucking Football!!

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Yep - see evaluation of kickers from college to pro vs his QB comparison as the same.  LOL!?

    And he will never admit that there was contact of chest to helmet in the roughing the QB call either.?

    I said I would have to see the tape again...because I must have missed something.  Show the video. 

    On the other thing...I was just jumping in your shit because you have become Woody like....slavering over every TAMU player that might even see a cup of coffee.   But actually, no, I don't think that just because a punter ...or any other position...is great in college means he will turn out great in the pros.

    I mean, what is the reason you were here in the first place?  Hello Johnny Fucking Football!!

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #39

    @the-gipper said:

    I said I would have to see the tape again...because I must have missed something.  Show the video. 

    On the other thing...I was just jumping in your shit because you have become Woody like....slavering over every TAMU player that might even see a cup of coffee.   But actually, no, I don't think that just because a punter ...or any other position...is great in college means he will turn out great in the pros.

    I mean, what is the reason you were here in the first place?  Hello Johnny Fucking Football!!

    And he's a QB not a punter. Rest my case.?

  • @the-gipper said:

    I said I would have to see the tape again...because I must have missed something.  Show the video. 

    On the other thing...I was just jumping in your shit because you have become Woody like....slavering over every TAMU player that might even see a cup of coffee.   But actually, no, I don't think that just because a punter ...or any other position...is great in college means he will turn out great in the pros.

    I mean, what is the reason you were here in the first place?  Hello Johnny Fucking Football!!

    And he's a QB not a punter. Rest my case.?

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    And he's a QB not a punter. Rest my case.?

    And a first round draft pick.   😮

  • @the-gipper said:

    I said I would have to see the tape again...because I must have missed something.  Show the video. 

    On the other thing...I was just jumping in your shit because you have become Woody like....slavering over every TAMU player that might even see a cup of coffee.   But actually, no, I don't think that just because a punter ...or any other position...is great in college means he will turn out great in the pros.

    I mean, what is the reason you were here in the first place?  Hello Johnny Fucking Football!!

    And he's a QB not a punter. Rest my case.?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    And he's a QB not a punter. Rest my case.?

    You had no case to make.  The issue is the same, be it QBs or punters.  What one does in college does not necessarily translate to the pros. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    And he's a QB not a punter. Rest my case.?

    You had no case to make.  The issue is the same, be it QBs or punters.  What one does in college does not necessarily translate to the pros. 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #42

    @the-gipper said:

    You had no case to make.  The issue is the same, be it QBs or punters.  What one does in college does not necessarily translate to the pros. 

    Then the proof is up to you. Name me a great college punter who failed in the NFL.

  • @the-gipper said:

    You had no case to make.  The issue is the same, be it QBs or punters.  What one does in college does not necessarily translate to the pros. 

    Then the proof is up to you. Name me a great college punter who failed in the NFL.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #43

    @texasag1969 said:

    Then the proof is up to you. Name me a great college punter who failed in the NFL.

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    93 Lester Coleman* 42.9 2015 2018 Virginia
    94 Brian Stahovich* 42.9 2008 2011 San Diego State
    95 Sterling Hofrichter* 42.9 2015 2019 Syracuse
    96 Richard Kent* 42.9 2010 2012 Vanderbilt
    97 Billy Vinnedge 42.9 2006 2007 Wyoming
    98 Riley Stephenson* 42.9 2009 2012 Brigham Young
    99 Austin Barnes* 42.9 2013 2017 East Carolina
    100 Dylan Breeding* 42.9 2009 2012 Arkansas
    101 Eric Wilbur* 42.9 2003 2006 Florida
    102 Scott Arellano* 42.9 2013 2014 Brigham Young
    103 Brian Simnjanovski 42.8 2000 2002 San Diego State
    104 Sean Douglas 42.8 2003 2006 Washington
    105 Sean Wale* 42.7 2013 2016 Boise State
    Rk Player Avg From To School
    106 Derek Epperson* 42.7 2007 2010 Baylor
    107 Reid Forrest 42.7 2007 2010 Washington State
    108 Jacob Richardson 42.7 2005 2008 Miami (OH)
    109 Luke Johnson* 42.7 2003 2005 Southern Mississippi
    110 Aaron Perez* 42.7 2005 2008 UCLA
    111 Darragh O'Neill 42.7 2011 2014 Colorado
    112 Jonny Linehan* 42.7 2015 2017 Brigham Young
    113 Sam Paulescu* 42.7 2004 2005 Oregon State
    114 Blake Hayes 42.7 2017 2019 Illinois
    115 Ryan Dougherty* 42.7 2003 2006 East Carolina
    116 Jonathan Kilgo* 42.7 1999 2002 Georgia
    117 Corliss Waitman* 42.7 2015 2019 Mississippi State
    118 Owen Tolson 42.7 2005 2007 Army
    119 Spencer Lanning* 42.6 2007 2010 South Carolina
    120 Riley Dixon* 42.6 2012 2015 Syracuse
    121 John Skaggs* 42.6 2001 2003 Navy
    122 Jamie Keehn* 42.6 2012 2015 LSU
    123 Sam Foltz* 42.6 2013 2015 Nebraska
    124 Dom Maggio* 42.6 2016 2019 Wake Forest
    125 Steven Coutts* 42.6 2015 2019 California
    126 Britton Colquitt* 42.6 2005 2008 Tennessee
    127 Dustin Colquitt* 42.6 2001 2004 Tennessee
    128 Brendan Carney* 42.6 2003 2006 Syracuse
    129 Adam Graessle* 42.6 2004 2006 Pitt
      Cody Mandell* 42.6 2010 2013 Alabama
    131 Mattias Ciabatti* 42.5 2012 2015 South Florida
    132 Michael Such* 42.5 2007 2010 Tulsa
    133 Curtis Head* 42.5 1999 2002 Marshall
    134 Oscar Bradburn* 42.5 2017 2019 Virginia Tech
    135 Mason King* 42.5 2015 2019 Louisville
    136 Kenneth Debauche* 42.5 2004 2007 Wisconsin
    137 Zoltan Mesko* 42.5 2006 2009 Michigan
    138 Cole Farden* 42.5 2002 2004 Oklahoma State
    139 Michael Hughes 42.5 2004 2007 San Diego State
    140 Chris Beckman 42.4 2003 2006 Tulane
    Rk Player Avg From To School
    141 Logan Tyler* 42.4 2016 2019 Florida State
    142 Andy Lee* 42.4 2000 2003 Pitt
    143 Kirby Van Der Kamp* 42.4 2010 2013 Iowa State
    144 Brian Schmiedebusch* 42.4 2011 2013 Bowling Green State
    145 Mike Abrams 42.4 1999 2001 Virginia
    146 Keenyn Crier* 42.4 2007 2010 Arizona
    147 Pat O'Donnell* 42.4 2009 2012 Cincinnati
    148 Nick Walsh* 42.3 2014 2017 Kansas State
    149 Adam Wulfeck* 42.3 1998 2001 Cincinnati
    150 Kyle Stringer* 42.3 2003 2006 Boise State
    151 Kyle Basler* 42.3 2002 2005 Washington State
    152 Anthony Melchiori* 42.3 2012 2015 Kent State
    153 Tony Yelk* 42.3 2000 2005 Iowa State
    154 Brandon McKee* 42.3 2013 2016 South Alabama
    155 Matt Fodge* 42.3 2005 2008 Oklahoma State
    156 Brett Kern* 42.3 2004 2007 Toledo
    157 Tim Reyer* 42.3 2004 2007 Kansas State
    158 Mat McBriar* 42.2 2000 2002 Hawaii
    159 A.J. Cole III* 42.2 2015 2018 North Carolina State
    160 Zach Sinor* 42.2 2015 2018 Oklahoma State
    161 James Farrimond* 42.2 2012 2015 Rice
    162 Mike Sadler* 42.2 2011 2014 Michigan State
    163 Alex Henery* 42.2 2007 2010 Nebraska
    164 Logan Laurent 42.2 2014 2017 Massachusetts
    165 Will Hagerup* 42.2 2010 2014 Michigan
    166 Kyle Hughes 42.2 2008 2009 New Mexico State
    167 Brent Bowden* 42.2 2007 2009 Virginia Tech
    168 Will Gleeson* 42.2 2014 2017 Ole Miss
    169 Graham Gano* 42.1 2006 2008 Florida State
    170 Brad Nortman* 42.1 2008 2011 Wisconsin
    171 Bentlee Critcher* 42.1 2014 2016 Appalachian State
    172 Danny Baugher 42.1 2002 2005 Arizona
    173 Jake Hartbarger* 42.1 2015 2019 Michigan State
    174 Cody Ridgeway* 42.1 2001 2004 Ole Miss
    175 Louie Sakoda* 42.1 2005 2008 Utah
    Rk Player Avg From To School
    176 Ryan Winslow* 42.1 2014 2017 Pitt
    177 Drew Galitz* 42.1 2015 2018 Baylor
    178 Luke Donovan 42.1 2001 2003 Wyoming
    179 Freddie Capshaw* 42.1 1999 2002 Miami (FL)
    180 Mickey Groody 42.1 2007 2011 Florida Atlantic
    181 Donnie Jones* 42.1 2000 2003 LSU
    182 Alex Dunnachie* 42 2009 2012 Hawaii
    183 Carlos Munera 42 2008 2009 Florida International
    184 Korey Durkee* 42 2012 2015 Washington
    185 Matt Yoklic* 42 2011 2013 Pitt
    186 Jackson Rice* 42 2009 2012 Oregon
    187 Preston Gruening* 42 2000 2002 Minnesota
    188 T.J. Conley 42 2005 2008 Idaho
    189 Ross Thevenot 42 2006 2009 Tulane
    190 Caleb Houston* 42 2013 2016 UCF
    191 Jared Cook 42 2001 2004 Mississippi State
    192 Adam Stiles 42 2000 2001 Baylor
    193 Aaron Bates* 42 2007 2010 Michigan State
    194 Peter Caldwell 41.9 2007 2010 Utah State
    195 Zach Paul* 41.9 2012 2015 Akron
    196 J.J. Standring* 41.9 1998 2001 Northwestern
    197 Ben Skaer 41.9 2010 2013 New Mexico
    198 Ryan Donahue* 41.9 2007 2010 Iowa
    199 Ryan Tydlacka* 41.9 2008 2011 Kentucky
    200 Adam Finley* 41.9 2001 2004 Michigan
    201 Ryan Erxleben* 41.9 2009 2013 Texas Tech
    202 Garrett Swanson* 41.8 2012 2015 Fresno State
    203 Kaare Vedvik* 41.8 2014 2017 Marshall
    204 Trey Ragland 41.8 2008 2011 UAB
    205 Teddy Dellaganna* 41.8 2008 2010 Rutgers
    206 Pablo Beltran* 41.8 2011 2014 Navy
    207 A.J. Hughes* 41.8 2012 2015 Virginia Tech
    208 Alexander Kinal 41.8 2012 2015 Wake Forest
    209 Ryan Santoso* 41.8 2014 2017 Minnesota
    210 Mark Haulman* 41.8 1999 2002 Southern Mississippi
    Rk Player Avg From To School
    211 Jed Barnett* 41.8 2013 2014 Oklahoma
    212 David Wooldridge* 41.8 2003 2006 North Carolina
    213 Matt Rinehart 41.8 2008 2011 Kent State
    214 Zac Murphy* 41.8 2010 2013 Miami (OH)
    215 Landon Foster 41.8 2012 2015 Kentucky
    216 Jeremy Kapinos* 41.8 2003 2006 Penn State
    217 Steve Mullins 41.7 1999 2002 Utah State
    218 Josh Davis* 41.7 2010 2013 Middle Tennessee State
    219 Anthony Fera* 41.7 2010 2013 Texas
    220 Chad Cunningham* 41.7 2007 2010 Tennessee
    221 Derek Adams 41.7 2016 2019 Kent State
    222 Matt Bosher* 41.7 2007 2010 Miami (FL)
    223 Logan Cooke* 41.7 2014 2017 Mississippi State
    224 Austin Seibert* 41.7 2015 2018 Oklahoma
    225 Baker Swedenburg* 41.7 2011 2013 Mississippi State
    226 Cason Beatty* 41.6 2012 2015 Florida State
    227 Alex Kinney* 41.6 2015 2019 Colorado
    228 Justin Duvernois* 41.6 2011 2014 Illinois
    229 Thomas Hibbard* 41.6 2011 2014 North Carolina
    230 Ethan Wood* 41.6 2013 2016 Wyoming
    231 Yannis Routsas* 41.6 2015 2018 UTSA
    232 Ross Stewart 41.6 2000 2002 UAB
    233 Cody Scates 41.6 2000 2003 Texas A&M
    234 Alec Vozenilek 41.5 2012 2014 Virginia
    235 Logan Yunker* 41.5 2013 2015 UNLV
    236 Richie Butler* 41.5 1999 2002 Arkansas
    237 Austin Parker* 41.5 2015 2019 Duke
    238 Richie Hogan* 41.5 2010 2013 Central Michigan
    239 Will Atterberry 41.5 2009 2012 North Texas
    240 Thomas Olmsted* 41.5 2002 2005 Troy
    241 Alonso Rojas* 41.5 2008 2010 Kansas
    242 Dane Roy* 41.5 2016 2019 Houston
    243 Clinton Durst* 41.5 2008 2009 Auburn
    244 Chase Lansford 41.5 2011 2012 UNLV
    245 Jack Sheldon* 41.4 2016 2018 Central Michigan
    246 Jared Scruggs 41.4 2003 2006 Rice
    247 Michael Farkas* 41.4 2015 2019 Ohio
    248 Peyton Theisler* 41.4 2016 2019 New Mexico State
    249 Jake Collins* 41.3 2015 2017 Western Kentucky
    250 Kyle Kramer* 41.3 2015 2019 Miami (OH)

    Here you go take your pick.

    And here are the all time leading NFL punters.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/punt_yds_per_punt_career.htm

    Knock yourself out.   I see very little overlap.

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
    #44

    Well the last time I recall recommending a great punter from A&M it was Drew Kaser and before that it was Shane Lechler (Kaser broke his records)-soon to be headed to the HOF and atop the leader board you provided in that link of all time NFL punting leaders. And Kaser actually is the second leading career punter (47.4) just behind Lechler. http://www.nfl.com/player/drewkaser/2555151/careerstats

    So now I make the recommendation for the guy who just broke their records (and everyone else's all-time records) with an average of over 50 per punt and somehow you think I'm pissing in your cornflakes because he's one of my homeboys? And low and behold there's another Aggie punter, HOFer Yale Larry (44.3 career ave.) from the 50's. And I haven't even mentioned Steve O'Neal, the guy with the unbreakable NFL longest net punt record of 98 yards.

    Anyway my point is someone will jump on the Aggie punter next draft (barring injury), Braden Mann, #34 on your roster, #1 in your heart. You can catch his first 2019 game tonight on SEC Network (Ch. 611 Direct TV) @ 7:30 EDT. Watch him and make up your own closed mind. LOL!??

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #45

    And HOF and 7 time pro bowl kicker Ray Guy was tied for the #76 in punting average?   😳

    Shows how misleading some stat tables can be especially when taken at face value or out of context.

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #46

    So what do you think a college football coach is worth......at Ken-tucky? Well here's a peak at Mark Stoops (from Youngstown, Ohio) redone deal. Fair or crazy?

    https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/kentucky/2019/08/29/kentucky-football-mark-stoops-awarded-raise-amended-contract/2149295001/

    LEXINGTON, Ky. — Mark Stoops has been rewarded for Kentucky football's historic 2018 season with a raise.

    A contract amendment signed Wednesday and released Thursday increases Stoops' salary by $500,000 per year in each of the six remaining years on his current deal. That boost replaces a clause that awarded Stoops $250,000 per win starting with the seventh win in a season. Now the bonus does not go into effect until win No. 9 in a given year.

    Stoops will be paid $4.75 million this season. His annual salary then escalates by $250,000 per year to $6 million in 2024-25. Per the terms of his previous deal, Stoops' contract is automatically extended by one year each time Kentucky wins seven games in a season and automatically extended by an additional year if Kentucky wins 10 games in a season.

    "I really appreciate Dr. Capilouto, Mitch Barnhart and the support they’ve given me and our staff since we’ve been here. It’s very important. Continuity is important. Just appreciate it. We’re grateful for it. We’ve been talking about it for some time. It always takes a little time with the details and things of that nature.”

    The amendment adds bonuses for being named SEC Coach of the Year ($50,000) and National Coach of the Year ($100,000) to his previous incentives for reaching the SEC championship game ($100,000), winning the SEC championship game ($200,000), reaching a New Year's Six bowl ($200,000), reaching the College Football Playoff semifinals ($300,000), reaching the national championship game ($400,000), winning a national championship ($500,000), reaching a bowl game ($100,000), achieving at least a 2.75 team GPA in a semester ($50,000) and recording at least a .975 Academic Progress Rate ($50,000).

    The new deal also allows Stoops up to 10 in-flight hours of private aircraft use for personal travel per year.

    Should Stoops leave UK with five or more full years remaining on his contract, he would owe the university a buyout of $1.75 million. The buyout decreases based on the number of years remaining on the deal: four ($1.65 million), three ($1.55 million), two or one ($1.5 million). The number of years remaining on the contract would include any future extensions triggered by a 7-or-10-win season

    Stoops led Kentucky to just the third 10-win season in program history in 2018 and a Citrus Bowl win over Penn State. He was named SEC Coach of the Year after leading the Wildcats to their first winning record in conference play since 1977. Kentucky is the only team in the country to match or exceed its previous season's win total in six consecutive years and has reached three consecutive bowl games for just the third time in program history........ CONTINUED.........

  • So what do you think a college football coach is worth......at Ken-tucky? Well here's a peak at Mark Stoops (from Youngstown, Ohio) redone deal. Fair or crazy?

    https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/kentucky/2019/08/29/kentucky-football-mark-stoops-awarded-raise-amended-contract/2149295001/

    LEXINGTON, Ky. — Mark Stoops has been rewarded for Kentucky football's historic 2018 season with a raise.

    A contract amendment signed Wednesday and released Thursday increases Stoops' salary by $500,000 per year in each of the six remaining years on his current deal. That boost replaces a clause that awarded Stoops $250,000 per win starting with the seventh win in a season. Now the bonus does not go into effect until win No. 9 in a given year.

    Stoops will be paid $4.75 million this season. His annual salary then escalates by $250,000 per year to $6 million in 2024-25. Per the terms of his previous deal, Stoops' contract is automatically extended by one year each time Kentucky wins seven games in a season and automatically extended by an additional year if Kentucky wins 10 games in a season.

    "I really appreciate Dr. Capilouto, Mitch Barnhart and the support they’ve given me and our staff since we’ve been here. It’s very important. Continuity is important. Just appreciate it. We’re grateful for it. We’ve been talking about it for some time. It always takes a little time with the details and things of that nature.”

    The amendment adds bonuses for being named SEC Coach of the Year ($50,000) and National Coach of the Year ($100,000) to his previous incentives for reaching the SEC championship game ($100,000), winning the SEC championship game ($200,000), reaching a New Year's Six bowl ($200,000), reaching the College Football Playoff semifinals ($300,000), reaching the national championship game ($400,000), winning a national championship ($500,000), reaching a bowl game ($100,000), achieving at least a 2.75 team GPA in a semester ($50,000) and recording at least a .975 Academic Progress Rate ($50,000).

    The new deal also allows Stoops up to 10 in-flight hours of private aircraft use for personal travel per year.

    Should Stoops leave UK with five or more full years remaining on his contract, he would owe the university a buyout of $1.75 million. The buyout decreases based on the number of years remaining on the deal: four ($1.65 million), three ($1.55 million), two or one ($1.5 million). The number of years remaining on the contract would include any future extensions triggered by a 7-or-10-win season

    Stoops led Kentucky to just the third 10-win season in program history in 2018 and a Citrus Bowl win over Penn State. He was named SEC Coach of the Year after leading the Wildcats to their first winning record in conference play since 1977. Kentucky is the only team in the country to match or exceed its previous season's win total in six consecutive years and has reached three consecutive bowl games for just the third time in program history........ CONTINUED.........

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
    #47

    @mjp28 said:

    So what do you think a college football coach is worth......at Ken-tucky? Well here's a peak at Mark Stoops (from Youngstown, Ohio) redone deal. Fair or crazy?

    https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/kentucky/2019/08/29/kentucky-football-mark-stoops-awarded-raise-amended-contract/2149295001/

    LEXINGTON, Ky. — Mark Stoops has been rewarded for Kentucky football's historic 2018 season with a raise.

    A contract amendment signed Wednesday and released Thursday increases Stoops' salary by $500,000 per year in each of the six remaining years on his current deal. That boost replaces a clause that awarded Stoops $250,000 per win starting with the seventh win in a season. Now the bonus does not go into effect until win No. 9 in a given year.

    Stoops will be paid $4.75 million this season. His annual salary then escalates by $250,000 per year to $6 million in 2024-25. Per the terms of his previous deal, Stoops' contract is automatically extended by one year each time Kentucky wins seven games in a season and automatically extended by an additional year if Kentucky wins 10 games in a season.

    "I really appreciate Dr. Capilouto, Mitch Barnhart and the support they’ve given me and our staff since we’ve been here. It’s very important. Continuity is important. Just appreciate it. We’re grateful for it. We’ve been talking about it for some time. It always takes a little time with the details and things of that nature.”

    The amendment adds bonuses for being named SEC Coach of the Year ($50,000) and National Coach of the Year ($100,000) to his previous incentives for reaching the SEC championship game ($100,000), winning the SEC championship game ($200,000), reaching a New Year's Six bowl ($200,000), reaching the College Football Playoff semifinals ($300,000), reaching the national championship game ($400,000), winning a national championship ($500,000), reaching a bowl game ($100,000), achieving at least a 2.75 team GPA in a semester ($50,000) and recording at least a .975 Academic Progress Rate ($50,000).

    The new deal also allows Stoops up to 10 in-flight hours of private aircraft use for personal travel per year.

    Should Stoops leave UK with five or more full years remaining on his contract, he would owe the university a buyout of $1.75 million. The buyout decreases based on the number of years remaining on the deal: four ($1.65 million), three ($1.55 million), two or one ($1.5 million). The number of years remaining on the contract would include any future extensions triggered by a 7-or-10-win season

    Stoops led Kentucky to just the third 10-win season in program history in 2018 and a Citrus Bowl win over Penn State. He was named SEC Coach of the Year after leading the Wildcats to their first winning record in conference play since 1977. Kentucky is the only team in the country to match or exceed its previous season's win total in six consecutive years and has reached three consecutive bowl games for just the third time in program history........ CONTINUED.........

    And that's "just" Kentucky. We can cringe at what pro athletes get paid, but who pays for the exorbitant salaries of college football or basketball coaches? Yeah some of the big buck alumni, but it mostly falls on the students. Hell, even some of the assistant coaches at "The" Ohio State University make more than $$$ a million a year. Sign me up- please.  🙂

    IIRC Urban Meyer was the highest paid public employee in Ohio, way more than any of the teaching doctors at the OSU hospital.  The Governor makes peanuts by comparison.