BROWNS ODDS MAKING PLAYOFFS with *6-9 start (*revised 12-23) at 0.00%.....game over..
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Well this analytics approach seems to be working. They now have a better chance of winning the division (43.4%) and making the playoffs (56.1%) than Baltimore.
What a difference a big win makes!
AFC North....after the win at Baltimore
Team W-L DAVE Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 2-2 10.8% 8.9 2.2% 6.5% 15.5% 15.0% 6.5% 7.4% 39.2% 8.7% 13.9% 53.1% -24.5% CLE 2-2 2.9% 8.8 2.1% 6.6% 15.0% 19.7% 5.3% 7.3% 43.4% 8.7% 12.7% 56.1% 21.9% PIT 1-3 -3.4% 7.3 0.2% 2.0% 6.1% 8.4% 3.6% 5.8% 16.6% 2.1% 9.3% 25.9% 15.3% CIN 0-4 -28.9% 4.1 0.0% 0.0% 0.2% 0.6% 0.1% 0.4% 0.8% 0.0% 0.5% 1.2% -3.3% I believe those number mean absofuckinglutely nothing.
I believe those number mean absofuckinglutely nothing.
If you mean those numbers then skip all analytics because that's what they do.
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And a favorite subject around here so who will be on the clock? Probably not the Cleveland Browns.
ON THE CLOCK
This report lists the odds of each team earning the first overall draft pick in the 2020 NFL Draft.
Team Top Pick Top 5 Pick MIA 63.3% 96.5% CIN 14.6% 73.3% WAS 7.3% 60.7% DEN 4.8% 53.1% ARI 5.1% 52.4% NYJ 2.1% 28.9% ATL 0.6% 20.4% NYG 0.5% 16.3% PIT 0.4% 14.0% OAK 0.3% 13.9% IND 0.3% 12.5% JAX 0.2% 8.5% TB 0.1% 6.9% CAR 0.1% 6.1% MIN 0.1% 5.6% LAC 0.0% 4.3% HOU 0.0% 4.2% TEN 0.1% 4.1% CLE <--- not even a top 5 pick? 0.1% 3.6% BAL 0.0% 2.6% BUF 0.0% 2.4% DET 0.0% 2.3% PHI 0.0% 2.1% GB 0.0% 1.3% SEA 0.0% 1.2% CHI 0.0% 1.2% LAR 0.0% 0.5% NO 0.0% 0.4% SF 0.0% 0.4% DAL 0.0% 0.3% -
And one more I like this especially the children of Brady and hell freezes over.
Special Super Bowl Matchups
This report lists the odds of several "special" Super Bowl matchups.
Name Teams Chance Jimmy Garoppolo Reunion Special SF vs NE 8.0% GOAT Quarterback Battle NO vs NE 5.5% Super Bowls XXXVI-LIII Rematch LAR vs NE 5.2% Super Bowls XXXIX-LII Rematch PHI vs NE 3.8% Super Bowl XLIX Rematch SEA vs NE 3.5% Super Bowl XX Rematch CHI vs NE 3.3% Super Bowl XXXI Rematch GB vs NE 3.1% Matt Patricia Reunion Special DET vs NE 3.0% Willie Roaf Memories Bowl NO vs KC 2.8% Missouri Revenge Bowl LAR vs KC 2.8% Andy Reid Reunion Special PHI vs KC 1.8% Super Bowl I Rematch GB vs KC 1.7% Matt Nagy Reunion Special CHI vs KC 1.6% Super Bowl XXXVIII Rematch CAR vs NE 1.4% AAFC Memorial Bowl SF vs CLE 0.7% Texas Bowl DAL vs HOU 0.6% Super Bowl IV Rematch MIN vs KC 0.6% Fight for L.A. LAR vs LAC 0.5% Drew Brees Reunion Special NO vs LAC 0.4% Super Bowl XXXIV Rematch LAR vs TEN 0.4% Return of the Rams LAR vs CLE 0.4% Super Bowl LI Rematch ATL vs NE 0.4% Earl Thomas Reunion Special SEA vs BAL 0.3% Super Bowls XXVII-XXVIII Rematch DAL vs BUF 0.3% Darren Sproles Reunion Special PHI vs LAC 0.3% Gulf Coast Challenge NO vs HOU 0.3% Super Bowls XLII-XLVI Rematch NYG vs NE 0.3% Matt LaFleur Reunion Special GB vs TEN 0.3% Hell Freezes Over DET vs CLE 0.2% Super Bowls X-XIII-XXX Rematch DAL vs PIT 0.2% Children of Brady SF vs IND 0.1% Super Bowl V Rematch DAL vs IND 0.1% Bay Area Bowl SF vs OAK 0.1% Nick Foles Reunion Special PHI vs JAX 0.1% Super Bowl XL Rematch SEA vs PIT 0.1% Super Bowl XIV Rematch LAR vs PIT 0.1% Super Bowl XLI Rematch CHI vs IND 0.1% Khalil Mack Reunion Special CHI vs OAK 0.1% Keystone Bowl PHI vs PIT 0.1% Super Bowl XV Rematch PHI vs OAK 0.1% 2015 Draft Showdown TB vs TEN 0.1% Super Bowl XLIV Rematch NO vs IND 0.1% Super Bowl XLV Rematch GB vs PIT 0.1% -
I believe those number mean absofuckinglutely nothing.
If you mean those numbers then skip all analytics because that's what they do.
If you mean those numbers then skip all analytics because that's what they do.
What I mean is that it is silly.
I could have told before a game was played that the Patriots had a 99.9% chance of winning that division. And I think my number is more valid that what this has put out. I am saying that I do not believe there is analytics at all involved.....just guesswork...possibly no better than my own.
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If you mean those numbers then skip all analytics because that's what they do.
What I mean is that it is silly.
I could have told before a game was played that the Patriots had a 99.9% chance of winning that division. And I think my number is more valid that what this has put out. I am saying that I do not believe there is analytics at all involved.....just guesswork...possibly no better than my own.
What I mean is that it is silly.
I could have told before a game was played that the Patriots had a 99.9% chance of winning that division. And I think my number is more valid that what this has put out. I am saying that I do not believe there is analytics at all involved.....just guesswork...possibly no better than my own.
Not guesswork that is plugging in anything you want these are based on analytical data nothing is made up or guessed. It is all explained at the site.
analytics noun: science of logical analysis
Not guesswork the science of guessers.
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What I mean is that it is silly.
I could have told before a game was played that the Patriots had a 99.9% chance of winning that division. And I think my number is more valid that what this has put out. I am saying that I do not believe there is analytics at all involved.....just guesswork...possibly no better than my own.
Not guesswork that is plugging in anything you want these are based on analytical data nothing is made up or guessed. It is all explained at the site.
analytics noun: science of logical analysis
Not guesswork the science of guessers.
Not guesswork that is plugging in anything you want these are based on analytical data nothing is made up or guessed. It is all explained at the site.
analytics noun: science of logical analysis
Not guesswork the science of guessers.
That may be OK in a lot of areas. But not here. My guesses probably are just as valid.
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Not guesswork that is plugging in anything you want these are based on analytical data nothing is made up or guessed. It is all explained at the site.
analytics noun: science of logical analysis
Not guesswork the science of guessers.
That may be OK in a lot of areas. But not here. My guesses probably are just as valid.
That may be OK in a lot of areas. But not here. My guesses probably are just as valid.
Like what? Guess my weight at a carnival?
And yes Gip I'm sure you're a good guesser.
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Wow did this turn around it was BAL 1/3 and CLE 3/1 before the last game.....CLE 3/1 might have been a nice bet.
Tuesday 10/1. http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures
ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 AFC NORTH (12/29/19)Team Odds Cleveland Browns 6/5 Baltimore Ravens 6/5 Pittsburgh Steelers 17/4 Cincinnati Bengals 100/1 -
Well this analytics approach seems to be working. They now have a better chance of winning the division (43.4%) and making the playoffs (56.1%) than Baltimore.
What a difference a big win makes!
AFC North....after the win at Baltimore
Team W-L DAVE Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 2-2 10.8% 8.9 2.2% 6.5% 15.5% 15.0% 6.5% 7.4% 39.2% 8.7% 13.9% 53.1% -24.5% CLE 2-2 2.9% 8.8 2.1% 6.6% 15.0% 19.7% 5.3% 7.3% 43.4% 8.7% 12.7% 56.1% 21.9% PIT 1-3 -3.4% 7.3 0.2% 2.0% 6.1% 8.4% 3.6% 5.8% 16.6% 2.1% 9.3% 25.9% 15.3% CIN 0-4 -28.9% 4.1 0.0% 0.0% 0.2% 0.6% 0.1% 0.4% 0.8% 0.0% 0.5% 1.2% -3.3% I believe those number mean absofuckinglutely nothing.
I believe those number mean absofuckinglutely nothing.
Agree with Gip here. If you want, I can whip up a few scripts that crunch some numbers based on some arguably meaningful input and output some seemingly relevant data. But real world, I can almost guarantee that these numbers mean squat.... Why? Because you're trusting an algorithm that you didn't write, code for which you haven't seen the source, and which has not been proven to be any better at predicting the future than pulling names out of a hat.
I could have registered the domain footballoutsiders.com for all you know, setup a LAMP stack, and be making money off all the ad's you mistakenly click on while you're there. I Didn't, but my point is, I believe those numbers mean absofuckinglutely nothing as well.
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Well this analytics approach seems to be working. They now have a better chance of winning the division (43.4%) and making the playoffs (56.1%) than Baltimore.
What a difference a big win makes!
AFC North....after the win at Baltimore
Team W-L DAVE Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 2-2 10.8% 8.9 2.2% 6.5% 15.5% 15.0% 6.5% 7.4% 39.2% 8.7% 13.9% 53.1% -24.5% CLE 2-2 2.9% 8.8 2.1% 6.6% 15.0% 19.7% 5.3% 7.3% 43.4% 8.7% 12.7% 56.1% 21.9% PIT 1-3 -3.4% 7.3 0.2% 2.0% 6.1% 8.4% 3.6% 5.8% 16.6% 2.1% 9.3% 25.9% 15.3% CIN 0-4 -28.9% 4.1 0.0% 0.0% 0.2% 0.6% 0.1% 0.4% 0.8% 0.0% 0.5% 1.2% -3.3% Team W-L DAVE Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 2-2 10.8% 8.9 2.2% 6.5% 15.5% 15.0% 6.5% 7.4% 39.2% 8.7% 13.9% 53.1% -24.5% CLE 2-2 2.9% 8.8 2.1% 6.6% 15.0% 19.7% 5.3% 7.3% 43.4% 8.7% 12.7% 56.1% 21.9% PIT 1-3 -3.4% 7.3 0.2% 2.0% 6.1% 8.4% 3.6% 5.8% 16.6% 2.1% 9.3% 25.9% 15.3% CIN 0-4 -28.9% 4.1 0.0% 0.0% 0.2% 0.6% 0.1% 0.4% 0.8% 0.0% 0.5% 1.2% -3.3% Dammit, mpj.... WE ARE the 1st place team... parley vous tiebreaker?
Like what? Guess my weight at a carnival?
And yes Gip I'm sure you're a good guesser.
Nah... overtime Gip guesses every possible outcome to assure he's always right... and individually they are all couched in provisos. There are abundant examples from here to Trubisky and back.
And you will never see Gip compete in any objective contests... from Dutch's Questions to Yahoo Pick'em to Z's TWitAFCN to you name it... cause that'd puncture his lil ego balloon in public.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Team W-L DAVE Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 2-2 10.8% 8.9 2.2% 6.5% 15.5% 15.0% 6.5% 7.4% 39.2% 8.7% 13.9% 53.1% -24.5% CLE 2-2 2.9% 8.8 2.1% 6.6% 15.0% 19.7% 5.3% 7.3% 43.4% 8.7% 12.7% 56.1% 21.9% PIT 1-3 -3.4% 7.3 0.2% 2.0% 6.1% 8.4% 3.6% 5.8% 16.6% 2.1% 9.3% 25.9% 15.3% CIN 0-4 -28.9% 4.1 0.0% 0.0% 0.2% 0.6% 0.1% 0.4% 0.8% 0.0% 0.5% 1.2% -3.3% Dammit, mpj.... WE ARE the 1st place team... parley vous tiebreaker?
Like what? Guess my weight at a carnival?
And yes Gip I'm sure you're a good guesser.
Nah... overtime Gip guesses every possible outcome to assure he's always right... and individually they are all couched in provisos. There are abundant examples from here to Trubisky and back.
And you will never see Gip compete in any objective contests... from Dutch's Questions to Yahoo Pick'em to Z's TWitAFCN to you name it... cause that'd puncture his lil ego balloon in public.
Dammit, mpj.... WE ARE the 1st place team... parley vous tiebreaker?
Nah... overtime Ghoolie guessed every possible outcome to assure he's always right... and individually they are all couched in provisos. There are abundant examples from here to Trubisky and back.
And you will never see Gip compete in any objective contests... from Dutch's Questions to Yahoo Pick'em to Z's TWitAFCN to you name it... cause that'd puncture his lil ego balloon in public.
FIFY, but you're mostly right about Gipper too....
PS- I was also on the Trubisky Train, but it's looking more and more like the Bears gave up way to much to get him- and he should have been drafted lower. Saved the Browns from making a big mistake? Very possibly.
Now about that Ghoolie feller and his love of Paxton Lynch and hate for Joe Thomas. I'd feel a lot better about our playoff SB chances if Joe was still playing. A 80% Joe would still be better than anything we currently have.
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Yeah those two were a lot alike I particularly liked the "Tom Brady is washed up" every year......but he kept winning NFL MVPs and Superbowls.
Oh well, keeps it interesting around here..... not counting all of the assinine comment of course.
Yeah those two were a lot alike I particularly liked the "Tom Brady is washed up" every year......but he kept winning NFL MVPs and Superbowls.
Oh well, keeps it interesting around here..... not counting all of the assinine comment of course.
Starts with a "G", has two syllables.........................................hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.??
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Yeah those two were a lot alike I particularly liked the "Tom Brady is washed up" every year......but he kept winning NFL MVPs and Superbowls.
Oh well, keeps it interesting around here..... not counting all of the assinine comment of course.
Starts with a "G", has two syllables.........................................hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.??
Starts with a "G", has two syllables.........................................hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.??
Rhymes with fool?
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True... a lot I said applied to Ghoulie as well... but he went beyond... he was true provocateur... posted outrageous stuff just to get a reaction... and attention.
I've always given Gipper credit for his social efforts with his trivia threads, weekly surveys, etc... even when he often turned the latter turned into pissin' contests over opinions... and I still give him credit. I even participated in those threads long after I placed him on "Ignore"... a list he was on and off of a few times. However, since I put him on the list for good, I no longer do. It just seemed hypocritical to participate any longer.
But that's me... I do encourage others to participate in those threads... if you can still "see" them.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Team W-L DAVE Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 2-2 10.8% 8.9 2.2% 6.5% 15.5% 15.0% 6.5% 7.4% 39.2% 8.7% 13.9% 53.1% -24.5% CLE 2-2 2.9% 8.8 2.1% 6.6% 15.0% 19.7% 5.3% 7.3% 43.4% 8.7% 12.7% 56.1% 21.9% PIT 1-3 -3.4% 7.3 0.2% 2.0% 6.1% 8.4% 3.6% 5.8% 16.6% 2.1% 9.3% 25.9% 15.3% CIN 0-4 -28.9% 4.1 0.0% 0.0% 0.2% 0.6% 0.1% 0.4% 0.8% 0.0% 0.5% 1.2% -3.3% Dammit, mpj.... WE ARE the 1st place team... parley vous tiebreaker?
Like what? Guess my weight at a carnival?
And yes Gip I'm sure you're a good guesser.
Nah... overtime Gip guesses every possible outcome to assure he's always right... and individually they are all couched in provisos. There are abundant examples from here to Trubisky and back.
And you will never see Gip compete in any objective contests... from Dutch's Questions to Yahoo Pick'em to Z's TWitAFCN to you name it... cause that'd puncture his lil ego balloon in public.
Dammit, mpj.... WE ARE the 1st place team... parley vous tiebreaker?
Nah... overtime Gip guesses every possible outcome to assure he's always right... and individually they are all couched in provisos. There are abundant examples from here to Trubisky and back.
Well...liars lie, and you lie. But yea, I made various predictions about the potential future of a few players...but I don't know anything about provisos. Sometimes I am right and sometimes I am wrong. Yes, I said Trubisky had the talent to become a Top Ten draft pick....and where was he drafted? I also said that Rudolph could prove to up there with the likes of the other QBs that were taken in round one that year. And yes, I now have a proviso on that one: my proviso is that I hope I am dead wrong now that he was taken by the Steelers. I am sure that I have been wrong...and right about other players as well. I mean, beyond that....please tell us what other abundant examples exist that support your bogus claim about these so called provisos....since apparently you are keeping score.
And you will never see Gip compete in any objective contests... from Dutch's Questions to Yahoo Pick'em to Z's TWitAFCN to you name it... cause that'd puncture his lil ego balloon in public.
Except, of course, you are a lying gutless punk again. I have participated in Dutch's questions every year, including this year. And I did participate in Pickem one time...and I won going away....so I retired undefeated. But actually, doing pickem just bores me, so I don't do it. Why should I do something that bores me? I have on rare occasion made picks on Z's thread...but as I said, it bores me. And who besides you and Z makes picks on there regularly? So...is every other patron/regular on this board who does not make picks also included in your criticism? I have said I would like to perhaps participate in Survivor, but have not done so because I would likely miss weeks...and a missed week is as strike against in that game, if I am correct. No, I suspect one of the reasons that you apparently miss a lot of what goes on is because you have shown your gutlessness by putting me on ignore. But I don't put you on ignore. Occasionally, you make interesting points or provide interesting information. Much of the rest of the time your posts are a great cure for insomnia.
Edit: by the way, I copied my post on Dutch's thread...since you seem so concerned about it. Maybe you would have seen it had you not had your head where the sun don't shine:
1. Browns record? 10-6
2. Bengals record? 6-10
3. Ravens record? 8-8
4. Steelers record? 9-7
5. How many points do the Browns score? How many points do they allow? 444 vs. 222
6. How many yards, touchdowns and interceptions does Baker Mayfield throw for? 4444, 44, 14
7. Who leads the Browns in receptions? How many receptions does he have? OBJ 88
8. Who leads the Browns in reception yards? How many yards does he have? OBJ 1188
9. Who leads the Browns in reception touchdowns? How many touchdowns does he have? OBJ 18
10. How many rushing yards and rushing touchdowns does Nick Chubb have? 1444, 18
11. How many rushing yards and rushing touchdowns does Kareem Hunt have? 444, 4
12. How many sacks does Myles Garrett have? 22
13. Browns record vs AFC North? 4-2
14. What two teams play in the Super Bowl? Who wins?
Predictions already made...see this, which is mostly a whole different set of predictions:
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Dammit, mpj.... WE ARE the 1st place team... parley vous tiebreaker?
Nah... overtime Ghoolie guessed every possible outcome to assure he's always right... and individually they are all couched in provisos. There are abundant examples from here to Trubisky and back.
And you will never see Gip compete in any objective contests... from Dutch's Questions to Yahoo Pick'em to Z's TWitAFCN to you name it... cause that'd puncture his lil ego balloon in public.
FIFY, but you're mostly right about Gipper too....
PS- I was also on the Trubisky Train, but it's looking more and more like the Bears gave up way to much to get him- and he should have been drafted lower. Saved the Browns from making a big mistake? Very possibly.
Now about that Ghoolie feller and his love of Paxton Lynch and hate for Joe Thomas. I'd feel a lot better about our playoff SB chances if Joe was still playing. A 80% Joe would still be better than anything we currently have.
FIFY, but you're mostly right about Gipper too....
About what? Putting "provisos" on things? Again, I have no clue what that is supposed to mean or what you are all talking about. You and I have had disagreements...differences of opinions...on some things. I mean is "your opinion differs from mine" your definition of a "proviso"? If not...what is, and show me these examples. I don't recall having any provisos when we were debating the whole "titles to be claimed" argument. In fact...you were the one with provisos (not counting because its not a title in the Super Bowl era, not counting because it was in Akron or Canton, not Cleveland. (and since we are on that topic....Santa Clara is as far away from San Francisco as Canton is from Cleveland!!) Again, WTF is a "proviso".
PS- I was also on the Trubisky Train, but it's looking more and more like the Bears gave up way to much to get him- and he should have been drafted lower. Saved the Browns from making a big mistake? Very possibly.
Now about that Ghoolie feller and his love of Paxton Lynch and hate for Joe Thomas. I'd feel a lot better about our playoff SB chances if Joe was still playing. A 80% Joe would still be better than anything we currently have.
Water over the bridge at this point.
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True... a lot I said applied to Ghoulie as well... but he went beyond... he was true provocateur... posted outrageous stuff just to get a reaction... and attention.
I've always given Gipper credit for his social efforts with his trivia threads, weekly surveys, etc... even when he often turned the latter turned into pissin' contests over opinions... and I still give him credit. I even participated in those threads long after I placed him on "Ignore"... a list he was on and off of a few times. However, since I put him on the list for good, I no longer do. It just seemed hypocritical to participate any longer.
But that's me... I do encourage others to participate in those threads... if you can still "see" them.
True... a lot I said applied to Ghoulie as well... but he went beyond... he was true provocateur... posted outrageous stuff just to get a reaction... and attention.
I've always given Gipper credit for his social efforts with his trivia threads, weekly surveys, etc... even when he often turned the latter turned into pissin' contests over opinions... and I still give him credit. I even participated in those threads long after I placed him on "Ignore"... a list he was on and off of a few times. However, since I put him on the list for good, I no longer do. It just seemed hypocritical to participate any longer.
But that's me... I do encourage others to participate in those threads... if you can still "see" them.
Well....at least you have admitted that you are gutless. And noting that you are willing to criticize from a position of ignorance when you haven't even seen a post.
And question: when did this forum, renown for its no holds barred approach, become a Kumbaya campfire circle?
I didn't get the memo, I don't think.
So, are the ground rules that we can no longer get into debates over opinions? Even "pissing contests"? (and no, I have never posted stuff merely to be a provocateur....I don't think.... with the exception of like "Stupid Steeler Fan" threads. OK, I admit to stirring up shit with those).
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